I find it funny that he issues takedown notices on everything that has his name on it on Youtube, but his twitter account now constantly posts links to other artist's material that is posted in the same manner.

Also, we all know that he prevents most artists from covering his music, but he constantly is remaking or performing other artist's material.

He's a hypocrite. Now call me Captian Obvious....

If others do not uphold to his standards of conduct (i.e. they do not mind), then where is the hypocrisy?

chookalana said:

I find it funny that he issues takedown notices on everything that has his name on it on Youtube, but his twitter account now constantly posts links to other artist's material that is posted in the same manner.

Also, we all know that he prevents most artists from covering his music, but he constantly is remaking or performing other artist's material.

He's a hypocrite. Now call me Captian Obvious....

I'll call you Captain Beatingadeadhorse because there's already a thread about that on the forum's first page and because this topic has been discussed times and times again over the last few years anyway.

I won't try and defend him on this because I'm really pissed, as a fan, by his attitude towards fansites and YT but there are just 2 things that may be pointed out, though:

Regarding YT, Prince never said that YT was evil in itself, he just made a choice that is that he doesn't want anyone other than him to post his music online, and he will enforce that. Most artists have a different policy, leaving it to the fans to post the videos they won't post themselves, and allowing bootlegs to be uploaded as well. Therefore it's not because you have a policy regarding YOUR property that you necessarly have to boycott material by artists who don't have the same policy. I think P considers that if it's online it tacitely implies that the artists allow it to be there, and therefore he's OK with it (his friend and advisor Larry, for one, allows anyone to post GCS stuff as far as I know).

Regarding covers, my understanding of it is that P considers that there's a diference between covering songs live and covering them in the studio, and that his problem is mostly with artists making a career out of covering a song (i.e. who'd have heard of Sinead O' Connor if not for NC2U, but on the other hand you never heard P criticizing Chaka, who already was well established, for covering IFFY). So I guess his stand is that he became a star all by himself, without covering anyone, and that therefore it's now OK if he does because people love him for his music in the first place and he didn't become a major act by taling advantage of someone else's work. I may be misinterpreting, though.

databank said:

chookalana said:

I find it funny that he issues takedown notices on everything that has his name on it on Youtube, but his twitter account now constantly posts links to other artist's material that is posted in the same manner.

Also, we all know that he prevents most artists from covering his music, but he constantly is remaking or performing other artist's material.

He's a hypocrite. Now call me Captian Obvious....

I'll call you Captain Beatingadeadhorse because there's already a thread about that on the forum's first page and because this topic has been discussed times and times again over the last few years anyway.

I won't try and defend him on this because I'm really pissed, as a fan, by his attitude towards fansites and YT but there are just 2 things that may be pointed out, though:

Regarding YT, Prince never said that YT was evil in itself, he just made a choice that is that he doesn't want anyone other than him to post his music online, and he will enforce that. Most artists have a different policy, leaving it to the fans to post the videos they won't post themselves, and allowing bootlegs to be uploaded as well. Therefore it's not because you have a policy regarding YOUR property that you necessarly have to boycott material by artists who don't have the same policy. I think P considers that if it's online it tacitely implies that the artists allow it to be there, and therefore he's OK with it (his friend and advisor Larry, for one, allows anyone to post GCS stuff as far as I know).

Regarding covers, my understanding of it is that P considers that there's a diference between covering songs live and covering them in the studio, and that his problem is mostly with artists making a career out of covering a song (i.e. who'd have heard of Sinead O' Connor if not for NC2U, but on the other hand you never heard P criticizing Chaka, who already was well established, for covering IFFY). So I guess his stand is that he became a star all by himself, without covering anyone, and that therefore it's now OK if he does because people love him for his music in the first place and he didn't become a major act by taling advantage of someone else's work. I may be misinterpreting, though.

If he plays like that, it's his choice.

And indeed, if other artists play by other rules, it on their account.

I don't like any form of censurship. Ever.

Controling everything is not my cup of tea.

But it's nothing new, is it? It's how Prince is.

chookalana said:

I find it funny that he issues takedown notices on everything that has his name on it on Youtube, but his twitter account now constantly posts links to other artist's material that is posted in the same manner.

Also, we all know that he prevents most artists from covering his music, but he constantly is remaking or performing other artist's material.

He's a hypocrite. Now call me Captian Obvious....

you are completely uninformed about copyright and trademark law. there are details regarding these actions of which you are completely unaware.

so for now i'll call you Captain Clueless instead.

I thought he was a Gemini?

Rain is wet...

sugar is sweet..

Clap your hands . . .

SpiritOtter said:

XxAxX said:

XxAxX said:

chookalana said:

I find it funny that he issues takedown notices on everything that has his name on it on Youtube, but his twitter account now constantly posts links to other artist's material that is posted in the same manner.

Also, we all know that he prevents most artists from covering his music, but he constantly is remaking or performing other artist's material.

He's a hypocrite. Now call me Captian Obvious....

you are completely uninformed about copyright and trademark law. there are details regarding these actions of which you are completely unaware.

so for now i'll call you Captain Clueless instead.

Actually I'm a musician who's relased six albums with three different bands. I'm very keen on copyright and trademark. I never said that he didn't have the right, simply that he breaks the same rules that imposes on others.

So what makes you think that I'm "completely uninformed about copyright and trademark law. there are details regarding these actions of which you are completely unaware. " indulge me with your ignoance...

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I find it more interesting why Prince makes these choices.

Why does he want to be in control so much?

Whe does he spend that money on lawyers, while he could use that money to get these lawyers fight court cases for poor women, who can't defend themselves.

Does he really make less money, if he would not oppose to sharing his are via internet? Would it not just be a good marketing tool? People will buy his music, if they want to, right?

What's the real issue here, for Prince?

but if it s hard for a rich man to get into heaven then...?

luvsexy4all said:

but if it s hard for a rich man to get into heaven then...?

I don't belief in a heaven or hell. I belief in God, not in religion.

Judgement is in the eye of the beholder. I've never been rich, so I don't know what I would do myself. I might indulge in tropical holidays.

And it's not about judging how Prince spends his money.

But, I do think it's interesting how he relates to money.

BTW, I find that interesting in general.

I detest greediness. So, I feel disdain for money. Consequently, I deal with it badly.

If I should have a less rigid attitude, I probably would handle my money in more constructive way.


So, that's what I find interesting. What is behind his complex relation with money?

SuperSoulFighter said:

If you believe in God, then you believe in afterlife and therefore in heaven & hell, because otherwise what's the point of believing in God? But that's a different discussion. Getting to the question of why Prince is such a control freak...only a psychiater talking to him would have the answer to that. My guess is that growing up in a broken home, somewhere in his youth, he must have gotten the idea, " if everything goes wrong, I have to rely on myself" Also, Prince big hero James Brown was very much a self-made man. Just my

That's my guess too.

SpiritOtter said:

chookalana said: