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Reply #30 posted 08/01/13 11:45am

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Referring to "The Future" as "cold funk" doesn't miss the mark that badly in my mind. It's the same type of stuff as "Erotic City", just done with the production standards of the late-80s. I'm reminded of a lot of the stuff that George Clinton, Rick James and others were doing around that time (or a few years earlier).


"Darling Nikki"? I don't know, it's Prince taking his own sound of the time to one extreme. It's almost like industrial music to me in its approach and what type of a mood it puts you. I don't really hear the funk there too much.

If I had to make a choice, "The Future" is "colder funk" of the two to me. smile

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Reply #31 posted 08/01/13 2:15pm

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Militant said:

The Future is brilliant, as is the remix done by William Orbit and Mark Moore.




I agree! The Future is simplistic at first listen but with attentioned given to it, one can hear the multiple layers of dance and funk that is dark in tone and brilliant in it's composition. It's a wonferful track.

Darling Nikki is essentially a rock compisition. I do not consider ita funk track. It's more in your face rock with slight flavores of jazz in the verses. It builds to a climatic rock oper-esq explosion...quite good!

I do love tone and musical feel in The Future. It has a heart pounding driven beat with splashes of funk layers in the rhythm. I also love the string arrangement as it gives another texture of sound that flows nicely.
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Reply #32 posted 08/01/13 2:24pm

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funkaholic1972 said:

You seem to have a "know it all better" attitude, which is not particularly coming across as very friendly...




Absolutely agree with you. This person comes across as childish and cocky without any mature relevant comments to offer. It's people like jonylawsen that make the org an embarrassment.
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Reply #33 posted 08/01/13 3:44pm

jonylawson

Adorecream said:

The Future by far, one of the best of his post L;ovesexy recordings, its cold and even quite morose and the type of Prince apocalypse song we have all grown to love.

Darling Nikki is just a steamy encounter with a oversexed woman, its alright, but apart from a great scream its very average and by far the weakest track on Purple Rain.

So its the future by the long shot, funny how its one of the best songs (Electric Chair and Scandalous may be a bit better) on a bad album, whereas Darlin Nikki is the worst song on one of his very best albums. However if Darling Nikki was on NewPowersoul it would lift that thing up

eek eek eek eek eek eek

whereas Darlin Nikki is the worst song on one of his very best albums. However if Darling Nikki was on NewPowersoul it would lift that thing up

Put the Pipe down now and leave this site...surely to god you can get banned for posting shit like this?

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Reply #34 posted 08/01/13 3:45pm

jonylawson

TikiColadas said:

funkaholic1972 said:

You seem to have a "know it all better" attitude, which is not particularly coming across as very friendly...

Absolutely agree with you. This person comes across as childish and cocky without any mature relevant comments to offer. It's people like jonylawsen that make the org an embarrassment.

jonylawsOn thankyou very much.....

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Reply #35 posted 08/02/13 2:28am

robertgeorgeak
abob

jonylawson said:



Adorecream said:


The Future by far, one of the best of his post L;ovesexy recordings, its cold and even quite morose and the type of Prince apocalypse song we have all grown to love.



Darling Nikki is just a steamy encounter with a oversexed woman, its alright, but apart from a great scream its very average and by far the weakest track on Purple Rain.



So its the future by the long shot, funny how its one of the best songs (Electric Chair and Scandalous may be a bit better) on a bad album, whereas Darlin Nikki is the worst song on one of his very best albums. However if Darling Nikki was on NewPowersoul it would lift that thing up



eek eek eek eek eek eek




whereas Darlin Nikki is the worst song on one of his very best albums. However if Darling Nikki was on NewPowersoul it would lift that thing up



Put the Pipe down now and leave this site...surely to god you can get banned for posting shit like this?






You've redeemed yourself Mr. Lawson!
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Reply #36 posted 08/02/13 2:47am

jonylawson

robertgeorgeakabob said:

jonylawson said:

eek eek eek eek eek eek

whereas Darlin Nikki is the worst song on one of his very best albums. However if Darling Nikki was on NewPowersoul it would lift that thing up

Put the Pipe down now and leave this site...surely to god you can get banned for posting shit like this?

You've redeemed yourself Mr. Lawson!

*takes a bow*

why thankyou!

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Reply #37 posted 08/02/13 4:02am

Adorecream

jonylawson said:

Adorecream said:

The Future by far, one of the best of his post L;ovesexy recordings, its cold and even quite morose and the type of Prince apocalypse song we have all grown to love.

Darling Nikki is just a steamy encounter with a oversexed woman, its alright, but apart from a great scream its very average and by far the weakest track on Purple Rain.

So its the future by the long shot, funny how its one of the best songs (Electric Chair and Scandalous may be a bit better) on a bad album, whereas Darlin Nikki is the worst song on one of his very best albums. However if Darling Nikki was on NewPowersoul it would lift that thing up

eek eek eek eek eek eek

whereas Darlin Nikki is the worst song on one of his very best albums. However if Darling Nikki was on NewPowersoul it would lift that thing up

Put the Pipe down now and leave this site...surely to god you can get banned for posting shit like this?

Sorry I have just always found Darlin g Nikki very average, sometimes I skip it and go straight into Doves from Computer Blue and I just don't really like the Newpowersoul album much.

But I love "come on", that thing is my jam.

Got some kind of love for you, and I don't even know your name
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Reply #38 posted 08/02/13 6:16pm

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regardless of funk or not...Darling Nikki kills everything ahead of it and after...JUST F***ing listen to the two songs back 2 back...

can not actually believe U made a thread about this...

If it were not for insanity, I would be sane.

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Reply #39 posted 08/03/13 3:10am

jonylawson

Whitnail said:

regardless of funk or not...Darling Nikki kills everything ahead of it and after...JUST F***ing listen to the two songs back 2 back...

can not actually believe U made a thread about this...

you completely miss my point then...but thatnks for participating

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Reply #40 posted 08/03/13 11:42pm

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Darling Nikki (with a G at the end, not Darlin'!),


That song is soooo sexxy and hott,

Not cold at all.... lol

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Reply #41 posted 08/03/13 11:48pm

jonylawson

thedance said:

Darling Nikki (with a G at the end, not Darlin'!),


That song is soooo sexxy and hott,

Not cold at all.... lol

so when Prince described it himself as the 'coldest funk"

what he should have done is pop on the net and run it past you??

lol lol lol lol

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Reply #42 posted 08/03/13 11:54pm

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^ I believe it was the album "1999" Prince himself described as his most "coldest" record..

I am not sure it was DarlinG Nikki.

wink

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Reply #43 posted 08/04/13 2:30am

robertlove

funkaholic1972 said:

jonylawson said:

okay.

thanks for clearing that up........

jesus H rolleyes

Why are you so often moody and sort of aggressive in your replying?

It´s like he´s always in a bad mood, he must have a very hard life.

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Reply #44 posted 08/04/13 2:49pm

Adorecream

Maybe its because like me, he lives in New Zealand which is about as far away from the Prince as humanly possible.

Thank god for some of the hardcore Aussie (And Kiwi) fans I have met in the past few years.

Got some kind of love for you, and I don't even know your name
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Reply #45 posted 08/04/13 11:33pm

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Lawson...has a troll like personality doesn't he?...hence the title of this pathetic thread, which of course you have to lower yourself to comment on....purposely using the word 'funk' so he can cause trouble later.

Dude is so pathetically transparent it's beyond boring...and tiresome at the best of times...

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Let everyone take note HE brought up 'race' first, FOR NO REASON...thus playing the race card...thus purposely seeking conflict.

.

Maybe he's feeling particularly impotent and insecure today. (More than usual).

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Reply #46 posted 08/05/13 2:00am

jonylawson

robertlove said:

funkaholic1972 said:

Why are you so often moody and sort of aggressive in your replying?

It´s like he´s always in a bad mood, he must have a very hard life.

says a dude with a profile pic like that......... neutral neutral neutral

lol lol

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Reply #47 posted 08/05/13 2:03am

jonylawson

funkyandy said:

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Lawson...has a troll like personality doesn't he?...hence the title of this pathetic thread, which of course you have to lower yourself to comment on....purposely using the word 'funk' so he can cause trouble later.

Dude is so pathetically transparent it's beyond boring...and tiresome at the best of times...

.

Let everyone take note HE brought up 'race' first, FOR NO REASON...thus playing the race card...thus purposely seeking conflict.

.

Maybe he's feeling particularly impotent and insecure today. (More than usual).

andrew..andrew...andrew

tsk tsk

i didnt bring up race up for "no' reason

funk is a black music art form....just thought it was ironic that the "net"is peppered with white dudes discussing "funK"

i just find the irony funny thats all

Prince himself said the darling nikki was some cold ass funk ..

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Reply #48 posted 08/05/13 3:58am

robertgeorgeak
abob

jonylawson said:



funkyandy said:


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Lawson...has a troll like personality doesn't he?...hence the title of this pathetic thread, which of course you have to lower yourself to comment on....purposely using the word 'funk' so he can cause trouble later.


Dude is so pathetically transparent it's beyond boring...and tiresome at the best of times...


.


Let everyone take note HE brought up 'race' first, FOR NO REASON...thus playing the race card...thus purposely seeking conflict.


.


Maybe he's feeling particularly impotent and insecure today. (More than usual).



andrew..andrew...andrew


tsk tsk


i didnt bring up race up for "no' reason


funk is a black music art form....just thought it was ironic that the "net"is peppered with white dudes discussing "funK"


i just find the irony funny thats all


Prince himself said the darling nikki was some cold ass funk ..





There is no irony in white dudes discussing funk. It's just you enforcing racial boundaries. Very shaky ground.
Explain the irony.
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Reply #49 posted 08/05/13 3:59am

funkomatic

jonylawson said:



funkyandy said:


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Lawson...has a troll like personality doesn't he?...hence the title of this pathetic thread, which of course you have to lower yourself to comment on....purposely using the word 'funk' so he can cause trouble later.


Dude is so pathetically transparent it's beyond boring...and tiresome at the best of times...


.


Let everyone take note HE brought up 'race' first, FOR NO REASON...thus playing the race card...thus purposely seeking conflict.


.


Maybe he's feeling particularly impotent and insecure today. (More than usual).



andrew..andrew...andrew


tsk tsk


i didnt bring up race up for "no' reason


funk is a black music art form....just thought it was ironic that the "net"is peppered with white dudes discussing "funK"


i just find the irony funny thats all


Prince himself said the darling nikki was some cold ass funk ..




Another lol for you!

Are you sure that Prince is black enough in order to be able to talk competently about Funk? What is more important to be qualified for Funk competence the colour of your skin or your age? As we all know Prince isn't as funky as he used to be. Would it be possible to compensate the lack of black skin with age-related youthfulness?
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[Edited 8/5/13 4:12am]
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Reply #50 posted 08/05/13 1:19pm

jonylawson

Prince isnt as funky as he was???

oh sweet jesus thats where you and i disagree

prince isnt as funky as he was....... lol lol lol


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Reply #51 posted 08/05/13 1:57pm

funkomatic

jonylawson said:

Prince isnt as funky as he was???

oh sweet jesus thats where you and i disagree

prince isnt as funky as he was....... lol lol lol


Right, he's so black that he is able to create one funk masterpiece after another. Never old school James Brown lite, people are tired of, always up to date brand new avantgarde funk grooves. Eye like funky music! lol

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Reply #52 posted 08/05/13 2:08pm

jonylawson

funkomatic said:

jonylawson said:

Prince isnt as funky as he was???

oh sweet jesus thats where you and i disagree

prince isnt as funky as he was....... lol lol lol


Right, he's so black that he is able to create one funk masterpiece after another. Never old school James Brown lite, people are tired of, always up to date brand new avantgarde funk grooves. Eye like funky music! lol

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Reply #53 posted 08/05/13 3:40pm

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OMG! The sacrilegious things I am reading here!!

Both The Future and Darling Nikki are grade A Prince, Darling Nikki being more legendary due to being on Purple Rain.

Are they both funk?

DG is rockfunk with an heavy metal vibe, on its own it is one of those delicious songs that is hard to classify except as a "classic Prince take on two or three idioms". It is cold and very warm at the same time -- in fact it is steamy like good porno.

The Future is straight futuristic funk, a warning about the cold hard world out there and beyond. It's perfect as it sounds exactly like what it should have sounded like for what it had to say -- crisp, electronic, with just enough humanity to let you know a human is behind the controls.

Both songs are dark and unsentimental to the extreme, but only Darling Nikki has leftover passion, while The Future tries to defend this contained passion with its cold, hard groove.

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Reply #54 posted 08/05/13 4:31pm

EvilAngel

Aerogram said:

OMG! The sacrilegious things I am reading here!!

Both The Future and Darling Nikki are grade A Prince, Darling Nikki being more legendary due to being on Purple Rain.

Are they both funk?

DG is rockfunk with an heavy metal vibe, on its own it is one of those delicious songs that is hard to classify except as a "classic Prince take on two or three idioms". It is cold and very warm at the same time -- in fact it is steamy like good porno.

The Future is straight futuristic funk, a warning about the cold hard world out there and beyond. It's perfect as it sounds exactly like what it should have sounded like for what it had to say -- crisp, electronic, with just enough humanity to let you know a human is behind the controls.

Both songs are dark and unsentimental to the extreme, but only Darling Nikki has leftover passion, while The Future tries to defend this contained passion with its cold, hard groove.

Bon soir monsieur Aero! biggrin

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Reply #55 posted 08/05/13 5:54pm

robertgeorgeak
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Aerogram said:

OMG! The sacrilegious things I am reading here!!



Both The Future and Darling Nikki are grade A Prince, Darling Nikki being more legendary due to being on Purple Rain.



Are they both funk?



DG is rockfunk with an heavy metal vibe, on its own it is one of those delicious songs that is hard to classify except as a "classic Prince take on two or three idioms". It is cold and very warm at the same time -- in fact it is steamy like good porno.



The Future is straight futuristic funk, a warning about the cold hard world out there and beyond. It's perfect as it sounds exactly like what it should have sounded like for what it had to say -- crisp, electronic, with just enough humanity to let you know a human is behind the controls.



Both songs are dark and unsentimental to the extreme, but only Darling Nikki has leftover passion, while The Future tries to defend this contained passion with its cold, hard groove.





Good call!
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Reply #56 posted 08/05/13 6:44pm

jonylawson

Aerogram said:

OMG! The sacrilegious things I am reading here!!

Both The Future and Darling Nikki are grade A Prince, Darling Nikki being more legendary due to being on Purple Rain.

Are they both funk?

DG is rockfunk with an heavy metal vibe, on its own it is one of those delicious songs that is hard to classify except as a "classic Prince take on two or three idioms". It is cold and very warm at the same time -- in fact it is steamy like good porno.

The Future is straight futuristic funk, a warning about the cold hard world out there and beyond. It's perfect as it sounds exactly like what it should have sounded like for what it had to say -- crisp, electronic, with just enough humanity to let you know a human is behind the controls.

Both songs are dark and unsentimental to the extreme, but only Darling Nikki has leftover passion, while The Future tries to defend this contained passion with its cold, hard groove.

yeahthat

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