SuperSoulFighter said:

I think we should stop this "big, bigger, biggest" way of thinking anyway. So what if acts don't sell out stadiums? What's the point of standing in a crowd of people so far from the stage that you end up watching the show on a screen after all? Give me the smaller venues any time!

This is exactly where I'm at - especially after seeing the first show at the United Center in Chicago last fall. I have accepted the fact that I am a small venue/aftershow kind of girl. I prefer the music he plays at those shows and I like being closer. I will probably never go to another large-venue Prince show.

And I would absolutely not go to see him with a bunch of scrubs on the bill.

Genesia said:

SuperSoulFighter said:

I think we should stop this "big, bigger, biggest" way of thinking anyway. So what if acts don't sell out stadiums? What's the point of standing in a crowd of people so far from the stage that you end up watching the show on a screen after all? Give me the smaller venues any time!

This is exactly where I'm at - especially after seeing the first show at the United Center in Chicago last fall. I have accepted the fact that I am a small venue/aftershow kind of girl. I prefer the music he plays at those shows and I like being closer. I will probably never go to another large-venue Prince show.

And I would absolutely not go to see him with a bunch of scrubs on the bill.

Janet & TLC are not scrubs!They are icons that sold millions & millions of records just like Prince..

Scrubs. I'm guessing NE means New Edition? New Edition were never ANYTHING, musically or otherwise. Calling Janet and TLC scrubs might be a stretch but
I can def see it that way, too. Freaking New Edition, though? That's not even music. They were a caricature of the Jackson 5's worst parts.

Genesia said:

SuperSoulFighter said:

I think we should stop this "big, bigger, biggest" way of thinking anyway. So what if acts don't sell out stadiums? What's the point of standing in a crowd of people so far from the stage that you end up watching the show on a screen after all? Give me the smaller venues any time!

This is exactly where I'm at - especially after seeing the first show at the United Center in Chicago last fall. I have accepted the fact that I am a small venue/aftershow kind of girl. I prefer the music he plays at those shows and I like being closer. I will probably never go to another large-venue Prince show.

And I would absolutely not go to see him with a bunch of scrubs on the bill.

*Seegenesiafrontrownextstadiumtour*

kewlschool said:

Genesia said:

This is exactly where I'm at - especially after seeing the first show at the United Center in Chicago last fall. I have accepted the fact that I am a small venue/aftershow kind of girl. I prefer the music he plays at those shows and I like being closer. I will probably never go to another large-venue Prince show.

And I would absolutely not go to see him with a bunch of scrubs on the bill.

*Seegenesiafrontrownextstadiumtour*

Y'know...I've only actually seen four large venue shows - tours for Purple Rain, Jam O the Year, Musicology, and Welcome to Chicago. (And I've never been in the front row.) Everything else has been small. Pretty sure I can stick to this.

In fact, I wish I hadn't gone to the Chicago show, at all (except for the aftershow on night 2). The two shows I saw at the Myth blew the United Center show out of the water.

fluid said:

6 million each show the Roling Stones? Most artist don't do 1 million on a tour. Listen 80s artists are less popular. Janet couldn't sell 20,000 arenas on her last touur. Even Michael went down. The Victory Tour was in sdtadiums, if u recall The Bad US Tour was in arenas.It's been 30 years sine Prince cane out and since The late 90s he's got virtually no play. So it's a good question to as if he can still sell arenas out. How many artists fron the 80s can still do big venues?Janet,Jodi Watley,Bobby Brown, Freddie Jackson,Patti LaBelle,Bobby Brown,Shalamar,The Deal, Keith Sweat? Even Diana Ross stopped her tour and she was like The Princess of Soul.

I would believe that Prince, Madonna, U2, and Bruce Springsteen are the last 4 from the 80's who can sell out arenas.

fluid said:

6 million each show the Roling Stones? Most artist don't do 1 million on a tour. Listen 80s artists are less popular. Janet couldn't sell 20,000 arenas on her last touur. Even Michael went down. The Victory Tour was in sdtadiums, if u recall The Bad US Tour was in arenas.It's been 30 years sine Prince cane out and since The late 90s he's got virtually no play. So it's a good question to as if he can still sell arenas out. How many artists fron the 80s can still do big venues?Janet,Jodi Watley,Bobby Brown, Freddie Jackson,Patti LaBelle,Bobby Brown,Shalamar,The Deal, Keith Sweat? Even Diana Ross stopped her tour and she was like The Princess of Soul.

they earned $ 87.7 million for 18 concerts in the U.S. only.

as an example, one of the weekly boxscore

in the United States, Michael did not tour since 1988, and in the rest of the world average number of spectators at his concerts in the History-tour (his last) - was 52,000 people per show, and 4,200,000 for 82 show.

How many artists fron the 80s can still do big venues?

U2 from the 80's too!

can have a successful world tour of the old acts:
Rolling Stones, U2, Bruce, Madonna, Roger Waters, Prince, Bon Jovi, some huge rock bands, if they unite again (for example, Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd), Tina Turner, I think...

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Jboogiee said:

fluid said:

Being that most of those artists couldn't fill an arena, do you think they should tour together. J and New Edition I know can't can't say the same for TLC and the artist. Together 2 to definetly all 4 of the could fill a 20,000 seat arena. But which combination would work Prince&Janet then TLC&New Edition would be a solo/group feel. Then Prince-New Edition and Janet-TLC would be a male/female thing. Togethr the set would be more ellaborate and they could afford great lighting.

Uh...take Prince out of the equation .

lol right....

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Prince doesn't tour with anyone! He doesn't have to. Case closed..

heehee.... I don't think he has had openings acts before. I could be wrong.

3rdeyedude said:

Prince is not as washed up as the other acts mentioned and not ready to do the old skool R&B legends tour - maybe instead of Prince on that list you could put Color Me Badd?

Color me Badd?? Are they even still together?? And didn't they only have that 1 hit? Don't think they would even work on an old skool R&B tour...

jonylawson said:

fluid said:

Being that most of those artists couldn't fill an arena, do you think they should tour together. J and New Edition I know can't can't say the same for TLC and the artist. Together 2 to definetly all 4 of the could fill a 20,000 seat arena. But which combination would work Prince&Janet then TLC&New Edition would be a solo/group feel. Then Prince-New Edition and Janet-TLC would be a male/female thing. Togethr the set would be more ellaborate and they could afford great lighting.

i just read and REread the classic line..."Togethr the set would be more ellaborate and they could afford great lighting"

LOL, i missed that line in the original post... That must be some kind of bootleg tour.. They may as well remove Janet too, she IS NOT having that either!

fluid said:

Both Elvis and The Beatles sold a billion. As of 2010 Michael not far from that. Now if you consider Mike was around less genrations than both those then yes he'd be the biggest entertainer of all time.Kind like Mariah. Not aware she's bigger than Madonna or even Whitney but she's been arouness time thant either. SO to be ind l for so few years and sell in their r.anks makes her bigger. You think it sounds funny but few old skool artists can sell big anymore. Even The Rolling tTones 2nd in ROck to The Beatles went from stadiums to arenas on this tour. Right off bat the only artists who could sell arenas who were in before 1990 are MJ,Elvis,Stones,Tina,New Kids,Depeche Mode,U2 and a few others. WHitney did around the world but for some reason did no american tour. Maybe not all music but black music I know. New Edition was about the biggest R&B act outside Mike,Prince and Janet and don't do over 10,000 these days. Strangely Sade and Rammstein can do arenas. That which is strange cause Sade I was never aware was that big and hasn't been played since the early 90s. As far Rammstein they never got major play in The US.

Where u been that you didn't know Sade was that big?? & correction, she is still making very good cds & getting airtime..... have some? Gots ta wakey wakey

PoplifeGeminEYE said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Prince doesn't tour with anyone! He doesn't have to. Case closed..

heehee.... I don't think he has had openings acts before. I could be wrong.

Prince has had one off openings 4 him like Sheila E, The Time, Janelle Monae, & Cee lo to name a few. But nowadays he rarely needs anyone to open 4 him on his mega sold out gigs....

Angelix said:

....the fuck is this?

kewlschool said:

fluid said:

6 million each show the Roling Stones? Most artist don't do 1 million on a tour. Listen 80s artists are less popular. Janet couldn't sell 20,000 arenas on her last touur. Even Michael went down. The Victory Tour was in sdtadiums, if u recall The Bad US Tour was in arenas.It's been 30 years sine Prince cane out and since The late 90s he's got virtually no play. So it's a good question to as if he can still sell arenas out. How many artists fron the 80s can still do big venues?Janet,Jodi Watley,Bobby Brown, Freddie Jackson,Patti LaBelle,Bobby Brown,Shalamar,The Deal, Keith Sweat? Even Diana Ross stopped her tour and she was like The Princess of Soul.

I would believe that Prince, Madonna, U2, and Bruce Springsteen are the last 4 from the 80's who can sell out arenas.

Sade sold out arenas on their last tour especially in the U.S. They had over 20 sold out shows including three sold out nights in both L.A., and Chicago each. Unless you mean an entire tour.

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Your worst enemy, taking the spotlight as only a Gemini can, that's who.

OlSchool said:

kewlschool said:

I would believe that Prince, Madonna, U2, and Bruce Springsteen are the last 4 from the 80's who can sell out arenas.

Sade sold out arenas on their last tour especially in the U.S. They had over 20 sold out shows including three sold out nights in both L.A., and Chicago each. Unless you mean an entire tour.

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I mean a tour-Sure, George Michael and Janet can do arenas but not full scale and certainly not every year. Janet has had problems selling tickets here in Seattle and normally cancells her concert here because the "staging doesn't fit." Or as it is more commonly known as: We didn't sell enough tickets.

steakfinger said:

Scrubs. I'm guessing NE means New Edition? New Edition were never ANYTHING, musically or otherwise. Calling Janet and TLC scrubs might be a stretch but
I can def see it that way, too. Freaking New Edition, though? That's not even music. They were a caricature of the Jackson 5's worst parts.

Now hold up, I understand that is your opinion, but I am giving NE their props..I have been a fan of theirs for awhile. Went to see them when they 1st came out. Their 1st album featuring Candy Girl was pretty good, & then when Johnny G joined, they took it to a whole other level! Have you not heard "Can you stand the rain". R&B Masterpiece imo.

Genesia said:

SuperSoulFighter said:

I think we should stop this "big, bigger, biggest" way of thinking anyway. So what if acts don't sell out stadiums? What's the point of standing in a crowd of people so far from the stage that you end up watching the show on a screen after all? Give me the smaller venues any time!

This is exactly where I'm at - especially after seeing the first show at the United Center in Chicago last fall. I have accepted the fact that I am a small venue/aftershow kind of girl. I prefer the music he plays at those shows and I like being closer. I will probably never go to another large-venue Prince show.

And I would absolutely not go to see him with a bunch of scrubs on the bill.

I am DEFINITELY a small venue guy!

bluefish said:

Genesia said:

This is exactly where I'm at - especially after seeing the first show at the United Center in Chicago last fall. I have accepted the fact that I am a small venue/aftershow kind of girl. I prefer the music he plays at those shows and I like being closer. I will probably never go to another large-venue Prince show.

And I would absolutely not go to see him with a bunch of scrubs on the bill.

I am DEFINITELY a small venue guy!

My only beef with the small venue events is that they are nearly always SRO. I'm getting too old for that.

What in the hell?



Prince totally sells out. He's like a consistent sell out.

fluid said:

Being that most of those artists couldn't fill an arena, do you think they should tour together. J and New Edition I know can't can't say the same for TLC and the artist. Together 2 to definetly all 4 of the could fill a 20,000 seat arena. But which combination would work Prince&Janet then TLC&New Edition would be a solo/group feel. Then Prince-New Edition and Janet-TLC would be a male/female thing. Togethr the set would be more ellaborate and they could afford great lighting.

Prince has no problem selling out any venue by himself. He has a problem distributing and selling new music. The guy needs a record label and a producer.

kewlschool said:

OlSchool said:

Sade sold out arenas on their last tour especially in the U.S. They had over 20 sold out shows including three sold out nights in both L.A., and Chicago each. Unless you mean an entire tour.

[Edited 7/31/13 19:07pm]

I mean a tour-Sure, George Michael and Janet can do arenas but not full scale and certainly not every year. Janet has had problems selling tickets here in Seattle and normally cancells her concert here because the "staging doesn't fit." Or as it is more commonly known as: We didn't sell enough tickets.

George Michael, hmmm interesting. I saw him in concert in 1992 I think it was, at Giants stadium. Great show, but I don't think he would fill any stadiums like that today. He was "hotter" back then.

SuperSoulFighter said:

I think we should stop this "big, bigger, biggest" way of thinking anyway. So what if acts don't sell out stadiums? What's the point of standing in a crowd of people so far from the stage that you end up watching the show on a screen after all? Give me the smaller venues any time!

LiLi1992 said:

on what basis did you create this combination?
do you think their fan base intersect the most?

Exactly. All music isn't the same & all music fans don't like all types of music/artists.