WHY won't Prince reunite for one last album/tour with them? I mean, just ONE? Please? I would be interested to hear what new [along with some...you know.....outtakes for their era] music would sound like. I know Prince is ALL about not living in the past , but, Damn man, that could be a nice payday/treat for all of the fans. I think we know how much Prince LOVES $, & that would make some nice doe imho . I know this topic has been beat the death a million times [I already know that I'll see this ]. But hey, I'm interested in hearing why it won't happen......or why it "could" happen.

I'm just going to get right to it:

paulludvig said:

I'm just going to get right to it:

But seriously - I'm not sure they could recapture the magic.

skywalker said:

Because only Prince fans care about The Revolution. The general public would've be more likely to see Prince because of Wendylisabobbymarkfink. The diehards show up anyways.

Aren't these statements contradictory?

paulludvig said:

Aren't these statements contradictory?

Sorry, I originally typed this from my mobile. Changed it to my actual thought. Thanks for the catch.

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Been there and done that. I think the main reason Road House Garden Album didn't come out in the late 90's was because of Wendy and Lisa (Per Prince). There seems to be an issue with money. I think W&L know that they can command more money now then they could back in the day.

kewlschool said:

Been there and done that. I think the main reason Road House Garden Album didn't come out in the late 90's was because of Wendy and Lisa (Per Prince). There seems to be an issue with money. I think W&L know that they can command more money now then they could back in the day.

I thought it was more so because Prince didn't want to pay them. He wanted them to do it for free or the experience or something.

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That's also a period when Prince was really wacky in Paisley Park

skywalker said:

Because only Prince fans care about The Revolution. The general public would not be more likely to see Prince because of Wendylisabobbymarkfink. The diehards show up anyways. [Edited 7/24/13 17:53pm]

I might disagree with that. I think the general public is more familiar with his 1982-1985 period. Especially because of Purple Rain the whole experience:the movie, the concert, the music

The Revolution have only reunited twice since 1986 on their own. Who said they even want to play together with or without Prince all that bad? Everyone hoped that the reunion at First Ave last year would lead to something more from them but it didn't at all.

HonestMan13 said:

The Revolution have only reunited twice since 1986 on their own. Who said they even want to play together with or without Prince all that bad? Everyone hoped that the reunion at First Ave last year would lead to something more from them but it didn't at all.

They actually said it. On FB they even asked who would go to a Revolution tour.

The reality is, with the 30th anniversary of Purple Rain, it would be in EVERYONE'S best interest to do an Anniversary Celebration Tour... the fans, the Revolution members, and yes, Prince himself.

Anyone who thinks he wouldn't make more $$$ by doing a huge stunt with the 30th anniversary, a tour, sell the DVD or streaming rights later..... is delusional. As someone said, most poeple are familiar with him from Purple Rain. ESpecially Baby Boomers who right now comprise the largest demo in the country. The money potential here is bigger than anything he's doing now or probably will do in the future.

The Welcome To America Tour was successful but not a huge phenomenon like this could be.

At this point, there woudl be enough $ to pay the band more than the $250 a week they got back in 1985. But I'm sure W&L and the rest don't expect to get paid the same as P. clearly. but they shoudl be paid a fair wage.

Anyway, to not do this is extremely short sighted by all parties involved. EVERYONE can make money of this, and it's maybe one of last opportunities for him to get on the national mainstream radar in a big way. A superbowl performance or TV appearance here or there are nice, but this would be newsworthy in every city they go to and create buzz in all media.

This will never happen.

P could really capitalise on the whole 30th anniversary thing if he wanted....with whatever band he has backing him.

Sure, he is best known for the PR era but those, from the general public, that remember that period think of Prince in the main - not Prince and the Revolution. Skywalker's right and, afterall, he's a frickin' Jedi !

It'd be cool to see them together in some ways but, as a diehard, I'd pay to watch Prince doing whatever tour with whatever band.

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OldFriends4Sale said:

FunkDr said:

P could really capitalise on the whole 30th anniversary thing if he wanted....with whatever band he has backing him.

Sure, he is best known for the PR era but those, from the general public, that remember that period think of Prince in the main - not Prince and the Revolution. Skywalker's right and, afterall, he's a frickin' Jedi !

It'd be cool to see them together in some ways but, as a diehard, I'd pay to watch Prince doing whatever tour with whatever band.

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that's the point. The diehards will go no matter what. But that target audience is limited.

To make big $$$, it has to be a nostalgia driven (probably shouldn't use that word, but it's true) capitalizing on the anniversary. Most baby boomers probably don't know who the hell Dr. Fink is or even W&L, but if they see posters and video clips with a guy in a surgeon's outfit (or some "nod" to it) and 2 women in the band, it'll make them remember the PR movie, tour etc, even they don't really understand what it is.

Throw in Sheila E and The Time, people will remember the glamorous life, The Bird etc. and it will make this way bigger than any Prince concert will be for the rest of his life.

May not to be to you pesonal (or P's) taste, but the reality is this is one of the last chance's to go big and maximize the revenue potential. The 50th anniversary everyone will bein their 70s.

GaryMF said:

HonestMan13 said:

The Revolution have only reunited twice since 1986 on their own. Who said they even want to play together with or without Prince all that bad? Everyone hoped that the reunion at First Ave last year would lead to something more from them but it didn't at all.

They actually said it. On FB they even asked who would go to a Revolution tour.

The reality is, with the 30th anniversary of Purple Rain, it would be in EVERYONE'S best interest to do an Anniversary Celebration Tour... the fans, the Revolution members, and yes, Prince himself.

Anyone who thinks he wouldn't make more $$$ by doing a huge stunt with the 30th anniversary, a tour, sell the DVD or streaming rights later..... is delusional. As someone said, most poeple are familiar with him from Purple Rain. ESpecially Baby Boomers who right now comprise the largest demo in the country. The money potential here is bigger than anything he's doing now or probably will do in the future.

The Welcome To America Tour was successful but not a huge phenomenon like this could be.

At this point, there woudl be enough $ to pay the band more than the $250 a week they got back in 1985. But I'm sure W&L and the rest don't expect to get paid the same as P. clearly. but they shoudl be paid a fair wage.

Anyway, to not do this is extremely short sighted by all parties involved. EVERYONE can make money of this, and it's maybe one of last opportunities for him to get on the national mainstream radar in a big way. A superbowl performance or TV appearance here or there are nice, but this would be newsworthy in every city they go to and create buzz in all media.

My point was that by the time the of Bobby Z's second beneift this year only Dr.Fink and Dez played with him. No Wendy, Lisa or Brown Mark. Not even in attendance. If they wanted to make music together that was a great jumping point to start and let the world know they're back and hoping for Prince's involvement. Lisa didn't even have interest in doing the tribute at Carnegie Hall along with Wendy & Susannah. As a collective I don't think they're all on the same page as far as a reunion and doubt they ever will be.

Se7en said:

1. If Prince reunited with The Revolution, and they were mind-blowingly successful, do you think he'd see that as a plus or as a minus? In a lot of ways, I think he sees 3EG as his new "Revolution". 2. The Baby Boomers are NOT Prince's target demographic anymore. Sure, he wants our continued support and money, but he's got his sights set on the 18-25 kids. 3. It might be seen as a gimmick.

I'm not sure I believe this, when you can't even post a song of his on youtube. I think he would have to gather himself around more popular artist of today, if he was going for a younger audience. Lots of today's youth [actually] may have heard of him, but they also laugh right after his name is said [@ least with some of the people I've come into contact with ]......

Tittypants said:

Se7en said:

1. If Prince reunited with The Revolution, and they were mind-blowingly successful, do you think he'd see that as a plus or as a minus? In a lot of ways, I think he sees 3EG as his new "Revolution". 2. The Baby Boomers are NOT Prince's target demographic anymore. Sure, he wants our continued support and money, but he's got his sights set on the 18-25 kids. 3. It might be seen as a gimmick.

I'm not sure I believe this, when you can't even post a song of his on youtube. I think he would have to gather himself around more popular artist of today, if he was going for a younger audience. Lots of today's youth [actually] may have heard of him, but they also laugh right after his name is said [@ least with some of the people I've come into contact with ]......

I always have to wonder what type of ignorant youth people hang around when I read something like this? Since when is an established musician with three decades in the game a source of ridicule? Especially when artists (and their fanbases) today can barely hope for that type of career longevity.

I don't even care.

Se7en said:

1. If Prince reunited with The Revolution, and they were mind-blowingly successful, do you think he'd see that as a plus or as a minus? In a lot of ways, I think he sees 3EG as his new "Revolution". 2. The Baby Boomers are NOT Prince's target demographic anymore. Sure, he wants our continued support and money, but he's got his sights set on the 18-25 kids. 3. It might be seen as a gimmick.

Then he, like many of the fanatics on here, is delusional.

1. 18-25 yo's don't know good music if it bit them in the ass.

2. Baby Boomers are the biggest market in terms of buying power per capita. There's tons of them and they have a lot of $. To focus on 18-25 yos makes no business sense. And it very little chance of success. Mariah is making that mistake right now. She's pandering to the yungun's by making crap songs that they're used to. Anyway that's a different topic.

Bottom line is the way for Prince ot maximize his revenue potential is to do a big spalsh, 30th Purple Rain annversary tour and bring back the Revolution ,and the Time and Sheila. That iwll make more $ than anything he does for the rest of his life.

The bottom line is, no matter ORGERS think, he will ALWAYS be remembered most for Purple Rain. Period.

OldFriends4Sale said:

kewlschool said:

Been there and done that. I think the main reason Road House Garden Album didn't come out in the late 90's was because of Wendy and Lisa (Per Prince). There seems to be an issue with money. I think W&L know that they can command more money now then they could back in the day.

I thought it was more so because Prince didn't want to pay them. He wanted them to do it for free or the experience or something.

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That's also a period when Prince was really wacky in Paisley Park

Yeah, that.

Bottom line is Prince should do what makes him happy. I think 3EG is his focus of his creativity for now.

I am generally a fan of living in the now, but if Prince wanted to do a P & the Revolution tour, with the Time and Sheila E as openers. He would make a lot of money, however the overhead would be a lot more. I would think his Musicology tour would be more profitable in the long run.

HonestMan13 said:

Tittypants said:

I'm not sure I believe this, when you can't even post a song of his on youtube. I think he would have to gather himself around more popular artist of today, if he was going for a younger audience. Lots of today's youth [actually] may have heard of him, but they also laugh right after his name is said [@ least with some of the people I've come into contact with ]......

I always have to wonder what type of ignorant youth people hang around when I read something like this? Since when is an established musician with three decades in the game a source of ridicule? Especially when artists (and their fanbases) today can barely hope for that type of career longevity.

The weird thing I've discovered is that, a lot of youth actually like [classic] Prince songs. I think they laugh more @ the image he created for himself. His particular fashion sense [in the past especially] doesn't help his cause, nor does his androgynous ways. People today are homophobic as hell!

HonestMan13 said:

Tittypants said:

I'm not sure I believe this, when you can't even post a song of his on youtube. I think he would have to gather himself around more popular artist of today, if he was going for a younger audience. Lots of today's youth [actually] may have heard of him, but they also laugh right after his name is said [@ least with some of the people I've come into contact with ]......

I always have to wonder what type of ignorant youth people hang around when I read something like this? Since when is an established musician with three decades in the game a source of ridicule? Especially when artists (and their fanbases) today can barely hope for that type of career longevity.

I think for the same reason it was back in the 80s. A lot of people couldn't get past the clothes, make up, perceived sexuality, and so on.

Tittypants said:

HonestMan13 said:

I always have to wonder what type of ignorant youth people hang around when I read something like this? Since when is an established musician with three decades in the game a source of ridicule? Especially when artists (and their fanbases) today can barely hope for that type of career longevity.

The weird thing I've discovered is that, a lot of youth actually like [classic] Prince songs. I think they laugh more @ the image he created for himself. His particular fashion sense [in the past especially] doesn't help his cause, nor does his androgynous ways. People today are homophobic as hell!

Well that doesn't speak well to the tolerance of todays youth then now does it. With more LGBT clubs in schools and openly gay youth emerging you'd expect a more generous attitude towards differences in anyone appearance and style choices. As I said, "I always have to wonder what type of ignorant youth people hang around"? Obviously not open minded individuals.