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Prince, Atlanta Bliss & the sound of the trumpet

I tend to hate this line, but Atlanta Bliss is one of the most under-rated characters in the Purple camp.

I love the sound of the trumpet and I love it even more in Prince music

think Mountains, Mia Bocca, Power Fantastic, Slow Love , Crucial, La La La He He Hee, Rock Hard In a Funky Place, Positivity, We Can Funk

what songs do recognized Atlanta on,

are there any songs after 1990 where Prince utilizes

the trumpet in a stand out way?

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Reply #1 posted 06/14/13 11:38am

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The trumpet is a musical instrument in the brass family. It has the highest register in the brass section. A musician who plays the trumpet is called a trumpet player or trumpeter. The most common trumpet by far is a transposing instrument pitched in B flat - the note read as middle C sounds as the B flat 2 semitones below - but there are many other trumpets in this family of instruments.

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Construction of the Trumpet

The trumpet is constructed of brass tubing bent into a rough spiral. The trumpet and trombone share a roughly cylindrical bore which results in a bright, loud sound. The bore is actually a complex series of tapers, smaller at the mouthpiece receiver and larger just before the flare of the bell begins; careful design of these tapers is critical to the intonation of the instrument.

By comparison, the cornet and flugelhorn have conical bores and produce a more mellow tone.
As with all brass instruments, sound is produced by blowing air through closed lips, producing a "buzzing" sound into the mouthpiece and starting a standing wave vibration in the air column inside the trumpet. The player can select the pitch from a range of overtones or harmonics by changing the lip aperture and tension (known as the embouchure).

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Modern trumpets also have three piston valves, each of which increases the length of tubing when engaged, thereby lowering the pitch. The first valve lowers the instrument's pitch by a whole step (2 semitones), the second valve by a half step (1 semitone), and the third valve by one-and-a-half steps (3 semitones).

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When a fourth valve is present, as with some piccolo trumpets, it lowers the pitch a perfect fourth (5 semitones). Used singly and in combination these valves make the instrument fully chromatic, i.e., able to play all twelve pitches of Western music. The sound is projected outward by the bell.

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The trumpet's harmonic series is closely matched to the musical scale, but there are some notes in the series which are a compromise and thus slightly off key; these are known as wolf tones. Some trumpets have a slide mechanism built in to compensate for this.

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The mouthpiece has a circular rim which provides a comfortable environment for the lips' vibration. Directly behind the rim is the cup, which channels the air into a much smaller opening (the back bore or shank) which tapers out slightly to match the diameter of the trumpet's lead pipe. The dimensions of these parts of the mouthpiece affect the timbre or quality of sound, the ease of playability, and player comfort. Generally, the wider and deeper the cup, the darker the sound and timbre.

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Reply #2 posted 06/14/13 11:44am

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Atlanta Bliss is the stage name of Matthew Blistan, an American jazz musician who specializes in the trumpet. He is most well known for his work with Prince from 1986–1989. He came to Prince's attention through his association with Eric Leeds. The duo had been in a jazz group prior to working for Prince. After leaving the Prince camp, Blistan continued to work on occasion with Leeds.

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Reply #5 posted 06/14/13 12:10pm

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OldFriends4Sale said:

I tend to hate this line, but Atlanta Bliss is one of the most under-rated characters in the Purple camp.

I love the sound of the trumpet and I love it even more in Prince music

think Mountains, Mia Bocca, Power Fantastic, Slow Love , Crucial, La La La He He Hee, Rock Hard In a Funky Place, Positivity, We Can Funk

what songs do recognized Atlanta on,

are there any songs after 1990 where Prince utilizes

the trumpet in a stand out way?

Right on!

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Reply #6 posted 06/14/13 12:17pm

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Underrated? I'm not sure. I always liked his sound. Maybe the trumpet is not as "sexy" an instrument as the guitar or the saxophone, but it has a distinct sound. And a history! The trumpet was used to give signals in the battles of previous centuries. In the old armies the trumpeteer was always a colourful figure.
Getting back to Matt, he was there at the most legendary Prince concert ever while Eric Leeds, who gets a lot of praise here, wasn't. So yeah, let's give the man some respect!
And btw, does anyone know what became of him?!
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Reply #7 posted 06/14/13 1:52pm

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OldFriends4Sale said:

cool I heart the zip and jazz of the horns and found that they brought new life and new heights to Prince music imo headbang

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Reply #8 posted 06/14/13 2:59pm

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SuperSoulFighter said:

Underrated? I'm not sure. I always liked his sound. Maybe the trumpet is not as "sexy" an instrument as the guitar or the saxophone, but it has a distinct sound. And a history! The trumpet was used to give signals in the battles of previous centuries. In the old armies the trumpeteer was always a colourful figure. Getting back to Matt, he was there at the most legendary Prince concert ever while Eric Leeds, who gets a lot of praise here, wasn't. So yeah, let's give the man some respect! And btw, does anyone know what became of him?!

yeahthat

The wooh is on the one!
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Reply #9 posted 06/14/13 3:28pm

wonder505

Wow I really like this pic!

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Reply #10 posted 06/14/13 3:48pm

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OldFriends4Sale said:

My Favourite SOTT pic!

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Reply #11 posted 06/14/13 3:53pm

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I met Matt and Eric in London in 1986. Lovely down to earth guys.

I hated horns until Prince and the guys won me over with parade.

Favourites? Hmmm.

I would say Sexual Suicide and Mountains 12".

Although its not Atlanta, I also love Somewhere here on Earth for the best trumpet on a Prince record.

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Reply #12 posted 06/14/13 5:44pm

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Love the sound wink

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Reply #13 posted 06/14/13 9:37pm

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Reply #14 posted 06/14/13 9:39pm

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File:PatRP298x298.png

Prince – all vocals and instruments, except where noted

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Brown Mark – electric bass, percussion, keyboards, vocals, co-lead vocals on "Mountains"

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Matt Fink – keyboards, synthesizers, midi-horn synths, vocals, co-lead vocals on "Christopher Tracy's Parade"

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Bobby Z.– drums, electronic percussion, chimes

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Sheila E. – drums on "Venus de Milo", cowbell on "Life Can Be So Nice", backing vocals on "Girls & Boys"

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Miko Weaver – rhythm guitar on "Mountains"

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Jonathan Melvoin – drums on "Do U Lie?"

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Eric Leeds – horns

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Atlanta Bliss – trumpet

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Lisa Coleman - keyboards, vocals

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Wendy Melvoin - guitars, vocals, lead vocals on "I Wonder U"

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Mazarati – backing vocals and additional instrumentation on "Kiss"

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Clare Fischer - orchestral arrangements

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Susannah Melvoin – backing vocals

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Isabelle Daskoff, Francine Walsh, Mari Botnik, Pam Gates, Janice Gower, Karen Jones, Betty Moor, Irma Neumann, Assa Drori, Bill Hymanson, Oscar Chasow, Ron Clark, Henry Ferber, Erne Granat, Ed Green, Bill Hybel, Reggie Hill, Pat Johnson, Don Palmer, Sheldon Sanov, Joe Schonbrun, Terry Schonbrun, Harold Wolf - violins

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Pam Goldsmith, Margot Maclaine, Carol Mukagawa, Myer Bello, Alan Deverich, Norman Forrest, Alan Harshman, Jorge Moraga, David Stock - violas

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Jim Arkatoff, Ray Kelley, Ray Kramer, Fred Seykora - cellos

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Chuck Dominico, Arni Egilsson - stand-up basses

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Gene Cipriano, Don Ashworth, John Clarke, Dave Edwards, Gary Foster, Jim Kanter, John Lowe, Dick Mitchell, Jack Nimitz, Joe Soldo, Bob Tricarico - woodwinds

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Ray Brown, Rich Cooper, Bob Findley, Larry Ford, Bob O'Donnell, Al Vizutti - trumpets

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Garnett Brown, Charles Loper, Morris Repass, Bill Watrous - trombones

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Marni Johnson, David Duke, Joe Myer, Brian O'Connor, Calvin Smith, Jim Thatcher - French horns

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Tommy Johnson - tuba

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Brent Fischer - timpani and additional percussion

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Susan Rogers - engineer

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SquirrelMeat said:

I met Matt and Eric in London in 1986. Lovely down to earth guys.

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I hated horns until Prince and the guys won me over with parade.

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Favourites? Hmmm.

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I would say Sexual Suicide and Mountains 12".

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Although its not Atlanta, I also love Somewhere here on Earth for the best trumpet on a Prince record.

Now that's cool.

Prince - all vocals and instruments, except where noted C.C. Dunham - drums Joshua Dunham - bass guitar Renato Neto - keyboards (uncertain involvement) Christian Scott - trumpet

http://www.concordmusicgr...net-earth/

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Grammy Nominated Trumpeter Christian Scott Appears On Prince's New Album Planet Earth

Christian Appears on the Track “Somewhere Here on Earth”
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“’Somewhere Here on Earth’ ranks up with the best of Prince’s ballads. Accentuated by Christian Scott’s sexy, muted trumpet, the elegant ‘Somewhere Here on Earth’ casts of wistful splendor.” – BET

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“More successful is ‘Somewhere Here on Earth,’ a slow jam with a muted trumpet up front as Prince rues the BlackBerry era: In this digital age/You could just page me/I know it’s the rage/But it just don’t engage me.” – SF Weekly

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New York, NY – Grammy nominated trumpeter Christian Scott makes an appearance on the critically acclaimed new album from Prince, Planet Earth, which was released on July 24, 2007. Christian appears on the track “Somewhere Here on Earth” which has been a stand out in reviews from both the critics and fans. Prince was first introduced to Christian’s music by talk show/radio host Tavis Smiley. He quickly became a fan and contacted Christian. Shortly there after Christian was on a plane and in the studio with Prince recording music for what would be Planet Earth, as well as performing some of the new material live on stage with Prince at his venue in Las Vegas, 3121 in the Rio Hotel.

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The appearance on Prince’s album comes just a month before Concord Records will release Christian’s sophomore album, Anthem. Hitting stores on August 28, Anthem is a powerful collection of 12 tracks teeming with jazz, fusion, rock, neo-soul and hip-hop. The tracks on the album give us a taste of Christian’s hometown, New Orleans, and the havoc wreaked by Hurricane Katrina, however it also reflects the many changes Scott has gone through since releasing his debut album, Rewind That. Released on March 28, 2006, Rewind That received rave reviews from the press. Billboard Magazine named him one of the “Top Ten to Watch in 2006.” The LA Daily News raved, “The major-label debut from this jazz trumpeter has been generating no small amount of hype – and in this case, the accolades are deserved. Rewind That is the real deal.”

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Reply #16 posted 06/14/13 10:59pm

imago

Prince is the only man I know who has horn arrangements

in his songs that are so fierce, they really could inspire

an entire underground drug using dance craze.


I mean, screw the New York and London Underground

Rave/drug scene of the 90s--Atlanta Bliss could have

you doing blow and dancing your ass off until the

son comes up.


Why Prince isn't a big icon in the drug world

is beyond me

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Reply #17 posted 06/15/13 5:39am

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OldFriends4Sale said:

I tend to hate this line, but Atlanta Bliss is one of the most under-rated characters in the Purple camp.

I love the sound of the trumpet and I love it even more in Prince music

think Mountains, Mia Bocca, Power Fantastic, Slow Love , Crucial, La La La He He Hee, Rock Hard In a Funky Place, Positivity, We Can Funk

what songs do recognized Atlanta on,

are there any songs after 1990 where Prince utilizes

the trumpet in a stand out way?

It's not Atlanta Bliss on Mia Bocca, it's a guy from Clare Fischer's camp.

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databank said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

I tend to hate this line, but Atlanta Bliss is one of the most under-rated characters in the Purple camp.

I love the sound of the trumpet and I love it even more in Prince music

think Mountains, Mia Bocca, Power Fantastic, Slow Love , Crucial, La La La He He Hee, Rock Hard In a Funky Place, Positivity, We Can Funk

what songs do recognized Atlanta on,

are there any songs after 1990 where Prince utilizes

the trumpet in a stand out way?

It's not Atlanta Bliss on Mia Bocca, it's a guy from Clare Fischer's camp.

Yeah, I actually don't know who played on that song, Atlanta played on Violet Blue.

I'm not talking just about Atlanta Bliss, but the sound of the trumpet, and he's officially the 1st trumpet player in Prince's camp.

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I'm interested in Atlanta Bliss place and contribution, and the sound of the trumpet in Prince's music since, included Miles Davis etc

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Reply #19 posted 06/15/13 8:13pm

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Crucial, Dinner Party March 24,1987 Can I Play With U? -Red Riding Hood, Madhouse, New Years Eve 1987 @ Paisley Park, -mILes At tHE pARK, tracks destined 4 Tutu & Doo-Bop, Miles Davis Plays Prince, A Couple of Miles, Sticky Wicked, ...silent track in memory of Miles

"When Miles says something about you like that, I guess it makes it all worthwhile.” -Prince

Miles Davis 1985 Prince on his Purple Reign 1985

"Oh my God. I’m hearing my saxophone and Miles’s trumpet on the same song,” -Eric Leeds

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Reply #20 posted 06/15/13 8:17pm

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Sticky Wicked is the fifth track on Chaka Khan's eighth solo studio album CK. The track was written, produced and largely performed by Prince, marking his first contribution to studio work by Chaka Khan. In 2011, it was included as the seventh track on the fifth and final disc of the Miles Davis compilation The Warner Years: 1986-1991, due to his appearance on the track.

Initial tracking took place on 11 June, 1988 at Paisley Park Studios, Chanhassen, MN, USA (two days after recording Pink Cashmere, Pickle and an entirely-unrelated instrumental, initially also called Sticky Wicked, but later released by Eric Leeds as Times Squared, and two days before Eric Leeds recorded overdubs for that same instrumental). Eric Leeds and Atlanta Bliss recorded horn overdubs onto the track before it was sent to Chaka Khan (specific recording details for their overdubs are not known). Khan then recorded vocal overdubs in June, 1988 (studio details are not known, although the album credits list multiple locations for the album's recording). She then sent the track to Miles Davis, who recorded trumpet overdubs on 29 June, 1988 at The Hit Factory, New York, NY, USA, New York, NY, USA. It was included as the 33rd track on a 2001 6CD configuration of the Warner Bros. compilation of Miles Davis work titled The Last Word, but the track was not included on the eventual 2-disc 2010 release, titled Perfect Way.

This is the only released track to feature both Prince and Miles Davis (the two had previously collaborated on the unreleased track Can I Play With U?, although the collaboration did not take place in the studio, and Prince himself may not have had any input on Davis' trumpet work).

One of the two tracks not to be produced by Russ Titelman was the funky and improvisational "Sticky Wicked", Khan's first proper collaboration with Prince after having covered his "I Feel for You" in 1984 and turning it into a million-selling hit single. CK also includes a second Prince composition, "Eternity" (produced by David Frank and Khan herself),

Released November 22, 1988

1) Signed, Sealed, Delivered (I'm Yours) 4:45

2) Soul Talkin' 4:16

3) It's My Party 5:11

4) Eternity 4:03

5) Sticky Wicked 6:54

Eric Leeds - saxophone Atlanta Bliss - trumpet Miles Davis - trumpet


6) The End Of A Love Affair 5:10

7) Baby Me 4:04

8) Make It Last 4:47

9) Where Are You Tonite 4:54

10) I'll Be Around 5:20

(Prince)
[Chorus:]
Carmel-coated pseudo happy
Call her sticky wicked
Will she answer agin today or pray that love'll kick it?

Kick it love, see her little baby
Hey girl, she don't remember your name
Kick it love, mama gettin' busy
Got no time 4 games

Sticky wicked
She just got a pair of tickets to the opera in her mind
No applause, no encore if she dies

[Chorus]

Kick it love, visions of her childhood
When her heart was gold
Sticky wicked
Tell me people what reason's good enough 2
Die before U're old? Kick it love, covenants of promise lay before your eyes
Stick wicked will trick U, lick U, then it kicks you aside!

[Chorus]

People crashing in the middle of the day
When U wake up sticky wicked don't go away
Sticky wicked
Pretty stick wicked

(Scenario of a mother who can't remember her daughter's name)
Hey little baby, what's your name?
Oh ain't she cute?
Mama got 2 run today
I don't have time 4 games
No don't worry about me, I'm alright
I'm alright, I'm alright

Carmel-coated pseudo happy
Call her sticky wicked
People crashing in the middle of the day
When U wake up sticky wicked don't go away
If U want it, help is here today
There's a better God, don't U wanna play?

Sticky wicked, love'll kick it
Sticky wicked, love'll kick it

TLM: Miles appears on Prince’s song “Sticky Wicked”, along with Prince Chaka Khan. But I gather the song wasn’t written with Miles in mind.

Eric Leeds: When Prince had the track up and Matt Blistan and I did the horn parts I can’t recall Prince making any mention about Miles, although he did say he’d written it for Chaka. Interestingly enough, the title “Sticky Wicked” had been applied to a different song, which was actually the title song of my first album Times Squared. I heard the track and asked Prince if I could work on it for my album and he said yes. And then a couple of weeks later, we were working on this track for Chaka and I asked what the name of it was and he said “Sticky Wicked!” Later on when we were on the road he said “Listen to this.” It was the finished track and Miles was on it. That was the song that got me officially into the Miles Davis discography! It was a much better track and much better utilisation of his horn than on “Can I Play With U?” It was a cool little song.

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OldFriends4Sal
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Clare Fischer - orchestral arrangements

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... Al Vizutti - trumpets

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Reply #23 posted 06/15/13 8:32pm

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imago said:

Prince is the only man I know who has horn arrangements

in his songs that are so fierce, they really could inspire

an entire underground drug using dance craze.


I mean, screw the New York and London Underground

Rave/drug scene of the 90s--Atlanta Bliss could have

you doing blow and dancing your ass off until the

son comes up.


Why Prince isn't a big icon in the drug world

is beyond me

U really need to cut out the Prince is Gay and Prince using drugs stuff dude, seriously

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Reply #24 posted 06/15/13 10:53pm

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lol I dont think I've ever seen him make a face like that!

OldFriends4Sale said:

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Reply #25 posted 06/15/13 10:56pm

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Prince gave good face on that pic.

OldFriends4Sale said:

File:PatRP298x298.png

Prince – all vocals and instruments, except where noted

.

Brown Mark – electric bass, percussion, keyboards, vocals, co-lead vocals on "Mountains"

.

Matt Fink – keyboards, synthesizers, midi-horn synths, vocals, co-lead vocals on "Christopher Tracy's Parade"

.

Bobby Z.– drums, electronic percussion, chimes

.

Sheila E. – drums on "Venus de Milo", cowbell on "Life Can Be So Nice", backing vocals on "Girls & Boys"

.

Miko Weaver – rhythm guitar on "Mountains"

.

Jonathan Melvoin – drums on "Do U Lie?"

.

Eric Leeds – horns

.

Atlanta Bliss – trumpet

.

Lisa Coleman - keyboards, vocals

.

Wendy Melvoin - guitars, vocals, lead vocals on "I Wonder U"

.

Mazarati – backing vocals and additional instrumentation on "Kiss"

.

Clare Fischer - orchestral arrangements

.

Susannah Melvoin – backing vocals

.

Isabelle Daskoff, Francine Walsh, Mari Botnik, Pam Gates, Janice Gower, Karen Jones, Betty Moor, Irma Neumann, Assa Drori, Bill Hymanson, Oscar Chasow, Ron Clark, Henry Ferber, Erne Granat, Ed Green, Bill Hybel, Reggie Hill, Pat Johnson, Don Palmer, Sheldon Sanov, Joe Schonbrun, Terry Schonbrun, Harold Wolf - violins

.

Pam Goldsmith, Margot Maclaine, Carol Mukagawa, Myer Bello, Alan Deverich, Norman Forrest, Alan Harshman, Jorge Moraga, David Stock - violas

.

Jim Arkatoff, Ray Kelley, Ray Kramer, Fred Seykora - cellos

.

Chuck Dominico, Arni Egilsson - stand-up basses

.

Gene Cipriano, Don Ashworth, John Clarke, Dave Edwards, Gary Foster, Jim Kanter, John Lowe, Dick Mitchell, Jack Nimitz, Joe Soldo, Bob Tricarico - woodwinds

.

Ray Brown, Rich Cooper, Bob Findley, Larry Ford, Bob O'Donnell, Al Vizutti - trumpets

.

Garnett Brown, Charles Loper, Morris Repass, Bill Watrous - trombones

.

Marni Johnson, David Duke, Joe Myer, Brian O'Connor, Calvin Smith, Jim Thatcher - French horns

.

Tommy Johnson - tuba

.

Brent Fischer - timpani and additional percussion

.

Susan Rogers - engineer

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Reply #26 posted 06/15/13 11:00pm

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To me, he looks different in this pic.. I had to get my magnifying glass out.. shocked

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OldFriends4Sale said:

databank said:

It's not Atlanta Bliss on Mia Bocca, it's a guy from Clare Fischer's camp.

Yeah, I actually don't know who played on that song, Atlanta played on Violet Blue.

I'm not talking just about Atlanta Bliss, but the sound of the trumpet, and he's officially the 1st trumpet player in Prince's camp.

.

I'm interested in Atlanta Bliss place and contribution, and the sound of the trumpet in Prince's music since, included Miles Davis etc

Oh, OK, sorry. Well, I've got nothing to say really then, I'm all for trumpet in P's music and it was brilliantly used on more than one occasion smile

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databank said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Yeah, I actually don't know who played on that song, Atlanta played on Violet Blue.

I'm not talking just about Atlanta Bliss, but the sound of the trumpet, and he's officially the 1st trumpet player in Prince's camp.

.

I'm interested in Atlanta Bliss place and contribution, and the sound of the trumpet in Prince's music since, included Miles Davis etc

Oh, OK, sorry. Well, I've got nothing to say really then, I'm all for trumpet in P's music and it was brilliantly used on more than one occasion smile

lol, well you actually said a lot my friend

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Reply #29 posted 06/16/13 6:50pm

G3000

This a great topic! Thanks for sharing and giving Bliss some credit! cool

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