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Black Music Month: 10 reasons Prince was the greatest artist of the 1980s

No. 7 Insanely prolific

He released virtually an album-and-a-half every year from 1980 to 1989, and that’s not counting bootlegs, B-sides and the numerous side projects that served as outlets for his creativity. To put that in perspective: in the time between Michael Jackson releasingThriller (1982) and Bad (1987), Prince released five albums–including a double set.

No. 6 The “Minneapolis Sound” came to dominate popular music

After Prince’s crossover stardom with 1999, his “Minneapolis Sound” (a continuation of Stax-ish soul that essentially replaced horns with synths and featured hard funk and dance grooves) became the defining sound of 80s pop. From Ready For the World’s “Oh Sheila” to Stevie Nicks’ “Stand Back,” to Full Force’s work with Lisa Lisa & Cult Jam.

No. 5 Also brought to you by Prince…

The Time, Vanity, Sheila E., The Family, Jesse Johnson, Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis and Alexander O’Neal. They were all at one point or another shepherded by His Royal Badness during his creative and commercial peak.

No. 4 “Written, produced, arranged and performed by Prince”

No artist of the MTV era epitomized the idea of a self-contained creative force better than Prince. Even though he would often work with bands like The Revolution or New Power Generation and others, his ability to put together entire albums on the strength of his own ability made him one of pop’s most respected hitmakers.

No. 3 He wrote how many hits for other artists?

“Sugarwalls” by Sheena Easton. “Manic Monday” by the Bangles. “I Feel For You” by Chaka Khan. “Nasty Girl” by Vanity 6. “Get It Up” by the Time. “Glamorous Life” by Sheila E. “Nothing Compares 2 U” by Sinead O’Connor. Those are just some of the hit songs he tossed out to other artists.

No. 2 Prince, Controversy, Around the World In A Day, Parade andLovesexy

There’s something to be said for watching an artist at their creative pinnacle. And Prince in the 80s was at his pinnacle. Even the albums that weren’t quite universally-acclaimed still sound fresh and spawned hit singles and classic album tracks.

No. 1 Dirty Mind, 1999, Purple Rain and Sign o’ the Times

But if you don’t quite grasp why people make such a big fuss over some little guy from Minneapolis that dresses funny–these are the albums that cement his greatness. Like all great art, Prince’s best work both defines its era and transcends it; on these albums (and virtually everything he did over that period) you hear the Prince that influenced everyone from D’angelo to Pharrell Williams, and you see the vision and undeniable talent of a man who shaped his era as much as any artist ever could.

Source: http://rollingout.com/mus...the-1980s/

wrong: “Written, produced, arranged and performed by Prince”...

right: "Produced, arranged, composed and performed by Prince"...


Thanks for posting, and right: Noone could beat Prince back then..!

Despite being a producer on his own, and writing his own material, Prince failed to have an impact on 80's music listeners, cuz y'all noticed that he had an impact on artists, on bands, on musicians, but not all the listeners who know nothing but listening, unlike MJ who managed to make everybody fall in love with his music. In terms of creativity and musicanship, nobody back then was better than Prince, but in terms of good music that doesn't lack a thing and suits everybody's taste, and shows that everyone would die to go to, MJ killed that, and MJ had a sick impact on the whole world.. he's IMO the greatest artist of 1980's because he respected what others like so he presented them a music that would last in their homes for generations.

all true

Shawy89 said:

Despite being a producer on his own, and writing his own material, Prince failed to have an impact on 80's music listeners, cuz y'all noticed that he had an impact on artists, on bands, on musicians, but not all the listeners who know nothing but listening, unlike MJ who managed to make everybody fall in love with his music. In terms of creativity and musicanship, nobody back then was better than Prince, but in terms of good music that doesn't lack a thing and suits everybody's taste, and shows that everyone would die to go to, MJ killed that, and MJ had a sick impact on the whole world.. he's IMO the greatest artist of 1980's because he respected what others like so he presented them a music that would last in their homes for generations.

Well, there was one thing Prince managed to accomplish that MJ never did. And that's this..............

he won an Oscar

Shawy89 said:

I agree with Stereo Williams. Prince was the greatest artist of the 1980's.

Shawy89 said:Despite being a producer on his own, and writing his own material, Prince failed to have an impact on 80's music listeners, cuz y'all noticed that he had an impact on artists, on bands, on musicians, but not all the listeners who know nothing but listening, unlike MJ who managed to make everybody fall in love with his music. In terms of creativity and musicanship, nobody back then was better than Prince, but in terms of good music that doesn't lack a thing and suits everybody's taste, and shows that everyone would die to go to, MJ killed that, and MJ had a sick impact on the whole world.. he's IMO the greatest artist of 1980's because he respected what others like so he presented them a music that would last in their homes for generations.

^ only 2 (yes, 2 only!) albums was released by Michael Jackson, 82 + 87.

Prince had no less than 10 excellent albums in that decade (if you includes the Black Album bootleg).

Prince was unbeatable in the 1980s, sure he was the greatest artist of the decade.

Like in the case of MJ who faded away in 95 (right after HIStory), Prince faded away at the same time, right after 1995 (The Gold Experience).

But both were amazing - and defined the 80's,

I still think Prince was the most interesting and definately the most productive, back then he just was unstoppable, changing styles, and musical directions all the time..

And yes he won an Oscar.

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So that means Adele is better than Amy Winehouse cuz Adele has an oscar?

^ Oranges and apples, oil and water...



Edit: I love both the music by MJ and Prince,

But like oil and water: they sure don't mix that well...

maybe you could say that MJ was "bad" (good) for the kids,

Prince was a sexxy motherf*cker for the grownups.

The King of Pop versus the King of sexual Funk.

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ps. now I fear this thread will turn out the bad way.... and might get locked... -- like it usually does when it's about Prince & MJ....

2 points:

One: Michael Jackson has an oscar. I think it is for "Ben", back in like '73.

Two: Say what you want about the other big three, Prince was just so much more interesting to follow. He took real CHANCES.

When he toured, he made sure to play small clubs and do covers and obscure tunes.

He would work with older artists both for selfish reasons (to learn from them) and for unselfish reasons (to introduce them to a younger audience and promote their careers that might otherwise be in decline).

He regularly turned off fans by talking about God and faith to an audience that was continually craving more carnality from him.

I think what impressed me most about Prince was his musical lifestyle. He was raising MUSICAL hell, more interested in challenging your ears rather than eyes, but he wasn't above that either ... lol

shayde said:

One: Michael Jackson has an oscar. I think it is for "Ben", back in like '73.

Correction, Ben was nominated for an Oscar, but never got it.

Shawy89 said:

Despite being a producer on his own, and writing his own material, Prince failed to have an impact on 80's music listeners...

Were you of age in the 80's? Because based on this statement I can only assume that you weren't. Trust those of us who lived through it: Prince absolutely had an impact on 80's music listeners. From 1984 through 1987, a new Prince album was the equivalent of what we just saw with the new Daft Punk (which kicks ass, by the way)...it's as if no other music exists because literally everyone is talking about it. Just like with Prince in the 80's.

Prince had very much impact on the 80s:


HE had 3 simultaneous #1 hits on the mainstream hitlists:

the #1 single: When Doves Cry

the #1 album: Purple Rain
the #1 movie: Purple Rain


All at the #1 position, simultaneously.

Not done since Elvis Presley and The Beatles.

And not done since back then, the summer of 84.

theblueangel said:

Shawy89 said:

Despite being a producer on his own, and writing his own material, Prince failed to have an impact on 80's music listeners...

Were you of age in the 80's? Because based on this statement I can only assume that you weren't. Trust those of us who lived through it: Prince absolutely had an impact on 80's music listeners. From 1984 through 1987, a new Prince album was the equivalent of what we just saw with the new Daft Punk (which kicks ass, by the way)...it's as if no other music exists because literally everyone is talking about it. Just like with Prince in the 80's.

(Bolded part) Most definitely. There's no denying both artists made an impact in the music industry during the 80s. MJ was good for 'pop' and 'safe, feel good music' but Prince took it to the edge and made it more exciting, by not only how he seduced and captured his audience with his music and stage performances, but also how he often incorporated religion, sex, politics, race, gender, and many other societal issues into his music, as well as how he presented his mysterious image/sexual prowness of his stage presence off and on stage.

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SuperSoulFighter said:

Shawy89 said:

Despite being a producer on his own, and writing his own material, Prince failed to have an impact on 80's music listeners, cuz y'all noticed that he had an impact on artists, on bands, on musicians, but not all the listeners who know nothing but listening, unlike MJ who managed to make everybody fall in love with his music. In terms of creativity and musicanship, nobody back then was better than Prince, but in terms of good music that doesn't lack a thing and suits everybody's taste, and shows that everyone would die to go to, MJ killed that, and MJ had a sick impact on the whole world.. he's IMO the greatest artist of 1980's because he respected what others like so he presented them a music that would last in their homes for generations.

NO! I admit to being a MJ fan when I was 16, but a year later I discovered Prince and have had no need to listen to Jacko ever since. So saying he made everybody love his music gets on my nerves as much as...eh... Jacko's music. I usually avoid making comments about him because you can't argue about taste, but for just this one time: MJ represents everything I don't like about pop music: videos, drum machines, image, moneymaking, in other words, everything that's not music! I admit he was a good dancer though.

His name is MICHAEL JACKSON, not jacko. get it right.

BabyImASTAR84 said:

SuperSoulFighter said:

Shawy89 said: NO! I admit to being a MJ fan when I was 16, but a year later I discovered Prince and have had no need to listen to Jacko ever since. So saying he made everybody love his music gets on my nerves as much as...eh... Jacko's music. I usually avoid making comments about him because you can't argue about taste, but for just this one time: MJ represents everything I don't like about pop music: videos, drum machines, image, moneymaking, in other words, everything that's not music! I admit he was a good dancer though.

His name is MICHAEL JACKSON, not jacko. get it right.

You MJ fans here: Aren't you a little too easy to offend.

And yes, Prince had a huge impact on the decade, 10 brilliant Prince albums in the 80's speak for themselves.

Prince had THIS impact:

I have always been a bigger Prince fan, and the "mantra" that MJ is "The King Of Pop", well he/ Michael Jackson invented that title himself. In the early 90's.

To me, and a lot of others: they are about equal,


MJ was great, but I really Prince music a lot more. This imho..

ughh tired of this discussion, but prince is ten million times better than mj no matter what!!!!!

if no prince, there would be no mj bad era, mj fans don't get offended, i'm just speaking for the truth!

purplesnowlove said:

ughh tired of this discussion, but prince is ten million times better than mj no matter what!!!!!

if no prince, there would be no mj bad era, mj fans don't get offended, i'm just speaking for the truth!

No Prince = No MJ Bad era? That whatchu mean?
EXPLAIN.

thedance said:

BabyImASTAR84 said:

His name is MICHAEL JACKSON, not jacko. get it right.

You MJ fans here: Aren't you a little too easy to offend.

And yes, Prince had a huge impact on the decade, 10 brilliant Prince albums in the 80's speak for themselves.

Prince had THIS impact:

I have always been a bigger Prince fan, and the "mantra" that MJ is "The King Of Pop", well he/ Michael Jackson invented that title himself. In the early 90's.

To me, and a lot of others: they are about equal,


MJ was great, but I really Prince music a lot more. This imho..

Acutally Elizabeth Taylor gave him that title fyi. Im a Prince fan and a MJ fan. A MJ song saved my life along time ago so i will not stand by and let anyone bash him for no reason.

purplesnowlove said:

ughh tired of this discussion, but prince is ten million times better than mj no matter what!!!!!

if no prince, there would be no mj bad era, mj fans don't get offended, i'm just speaking for the truth!

im sorry i don't understand. please clarify

Meh. I don't know about this one.

lol..

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^ How strange.. +


Correction:



[img:$uid]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/ecnirp2004/Prince/Prince1983_zps9a14a1a6.jpg[/img:$uid]


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thedance said:

^ How strange.. +


Correction:



[img:$uid]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/ecnirp2004/Prince/Prince1983_zps9a14a1a6.jpg[/img:$uid]


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thank u for the correction lol ; got sick wen ppl trying to say prince wanna be like mj, the fact is, mj copied a lot from prince! over the year!