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Thread started 06/20/13 3:42pm

Optimus2

Prince Songs "U" dont understand the Meaning of...bleh!

confused

1. Purple Rain (what is Purple "Rain"?..never understood what it symbolises)

2. Holy River (what the hell has a river gt 2 do with marriage?)

3. Dolphin ("if I cum back as a dolphin"....trippy as fuck)

4. Hello (that song is just weird as fuck....ano its about we are the world..but dosnet make sense)

ok......ur turn.....

[Edited 6/20/13 18:35pm]

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Reply #1 posted 06/20/13 4:48pm

benjaminira

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I can't say I've never really "understood" "Purple Rain" either...I've recently thought that it was like a cleansing of forgiveness? Like bathing in the Purple Rain would wash away the sins? Help me on that one too!

If it breaks when it bends, U better not put it in!
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Reply #2 posted 06/20/13 6:01pm

HonestMan13

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Optimus2 said:

confused

1. Purple Rain (what is Purple "Rain"?..never understood what it symbolises)

2. Holy River (what the hell has a river gt 2 do with marriage?)

3. Dolphin ("if I cum back as a dolphin"....trippy as fuck)

4. Hello (that song is just weird as fuck....ano its about we are the world..but dosnet make sense)

ok......ur turn.....

"Hello" is pretty much an accurate account of what happened with Prince after he passed on the "We Are The World" recording. He passed on the recording and got ambushed in his limo(with J.Jones) by fotogs and his bodyguards got physical with the fotogs and in the end he got bad press for the whole deal. "I was sitting pretty with a beautiful friend , a man tries 2 get in the car...", "U call them bodyguards but I call 'em my friends...", "I hate cameras by nature..."

Also references the offering of "4 The Tears In Your Eyes" instead of singing on "We Are The World".

He goes on to point out about hunger at home in the USA and that they(Prince and The Revolution) do care about it all.

"Dolphin" was basically telling Warner Brothers that if Prince died and came back as a dolphin would they still tell him how to handle business. "how 2 swim..."

[Edited 6/20/13 18:01pm]

When eye go 2 a Prince concert or related event it's all heart up in the house but when eye log onto this site and the miasma of bitchiness is completely overwhelming!
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Reply #3 posted 06/20/13 6:33pm

Optimus2

HonestMan13 said:

Optimus2 said:

confused

1. Purple Rain (what is Purple "Rain"?..never understood what it symbolises)

2. Holy River (what the hell has a river gt 2 do with marriage?)

3. Dolphin ("if I cum back as a dolphin"....trippy as fuck)

4. Hello (that song is just weird as fuck....ano its about we are the world..but dosnet make sense)

ok......ur turn.....

"Hello" is pretty much an accurate account of what happened with Prince after he passed on the "We Are The World" recording. He passed on the recording and got ambushed in his limo(with J.Jones) by fotogs and his bodyguards got physical with the fotogs and in the end he got bad press for the whole deal. "I was sitting pretty with a beautiful friend , a man tries 2 get in the car...", "U call them bodyguards but I call 'em my friends...", "I hate cameras by nature..."

Also references the offering of "4 The Tears In Your Eyes" instead of singing on "We Are The World".

He goes on to point out about hunger at home in the USA and that they(Prince and The Revolution) do care about it all.

"Dolphin" was basically telling Warner Brothers that if Prince died and came back as a dolphin would they still tell him how to handle business. "how 2 swim..."

[Edited 6/20/13 18:01pm]

thank u!...now what about Purple Rain?

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Reply #4 posted 06/20/13 6:34pm

Optimus2

benjaminira said:

I can't say I've never really "understood" "Purple Rain" either...I've recently thought that it was like a cleansing of forgiveness? Like bathing in the Purple Rain would wash away the sins? Help me on that one too!

glad I aint alone on that 1!

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Reply #5 posted 06/20/13 7:26pm

jonylawson

Optimus2 said:

benjaminira said:

I can't say I've never really "understood" "Purple Rain" either...I've recently thought that it was like a cleansing of forgiveness? Like bathing in the Purple Rain would wash away the sins? Help me on that one too!

glad I aint alone on that 1!

Prince explained the meaning of the song on tavis smiley..1998

blood mixed with the blue of the sky = purple..purple rain

its about the end of the world and letting jesus guide you through.....

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Reply #6 posted 06/20/13 7:27pm

jonylawson

Optimus2 said:

confused

1. Purple Rain (what is Purple "Rain"?..never understood what it symbolises)

2. Holy River (what the hell has a river gt 2 do with marriage?)

3. Dolphin ("if I cum back as a dolphin"....trippy as fuck)

4. Hello (that song is just weird as fuck....ano its about we are the world..but dosnet make sense)

ok......ur turn.....

[Edited 6/20/13 18:35pm]

here this may help you.....

either attend something called a "school"

otherwise look up the words METAPHOR and ANALOGY

that should help

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Reply #7 posted 06/21/13 5:43am

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jonylawson said:

Optimus2 said:

glad I aint alone on that 1!

Prince explained the meaning of the song on tavis smiley..1998

blood mixed with the blue of the sky = purple..purple rain

its about the end of the world and letting jesus guide you through.....

Yep.

Can you imagine how much hate it would get if we'd never heard of it and he released it today? More JW nonsense they'd say.

RIP sad
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Reply #8 posted 06/21/13 7:23am

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The Holy River is about baptism - washing away your sins and your past (ie, being redeemed).

He talks about the pain, loneliness and emptiness that some of his past decisions have brought. He comes to an epiphany that he had lost his focus on the One who brings all that is good - God. So he goes to the Holy River to be baptized (washing away his original sin). At this point, he can commit to a better life – with the woman he loves. In so doing, he finds joy.

It's pretty simple, really. shrug

[Edited 6/21/13 7:23am]

We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves.
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Reply #9 posted 06/21/13 7:42am

Optimus2

jonylawson said: Optimus2 said: confused 1. Purple Rain (what is Purple "Rain"?..never understood what it symbolises) 2. Holy River (what the hell has a river gt 2 do with marriage?) 3. Dolphin ("if I cum back as a dolphin"....trippy as fuck) 4. Hello (that song is just weird as fuck....ano its about we are the world..but dosnet make sense) ok......ur turn..... [Edited 6/20/13 18:35pm] here this may help you..... either attend something called a "school" otherwise look up the words METAPHOR and ANALOGY that should help who teh fuck would guess "blood mixed with the sky".......and by 1998 he was a jw.....he most probably didnt know what it meant himself.....and made that up 2 fit in2 his new cult

[Edited 6/21/13 7:43am]

[Edited 6/21/13 11:34am]

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Reply #10 posted 06/21/13 7:59am

alk9417

The Ballad of Dorothy Parker. All I gather is that it's about a girl that makes him feel better, but whats with references to "violent rooms" and the "baths with pants on"? Still intriguing regardless

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Reply #11 posted 06/21/13 8:37am

Genesia

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alk9417 said:

The Ballad of Dorothy Parker. All I gather is that it's about a girl that makes him feel better, but whats with references to "violent rooms" and the "baths with pants on"? Still intriguing regardless


"Violent room" is a metaphor for having an argument with his girlfriend.

Taking a bath with his pants on means they made out but didn't have sex.

Didn't you people ever take high school English? Seriously - this is all taught in Symbolism 101.

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Reply #12 posted 06/21/13 10:27am

dJJ

Genesia said:

alk9417 said:

The Ballad of Dorothy Parker. All I gather is that it's about a girl that makes him feel better, but whats with references to "violent rooms" and the "baths with pants on"? Still intriguing regardless


"Violent room" is a metaphor for having an argument with his girlfriend.

Taking a bath with his pants on means they made out but didn't have sex.

Didn't you people ever take high school English? Seriously - this is all taught in Symbolism 101.

Not everybody is American.

99% of my posts are ironic. Maybe this post sides with the other 1%.
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Reply #13 posted 06/21/13 12:10pm

alk9417

dJJ said:

Genesia said:


"Violent room" is a metaphor for having an argument with his girlfriend.

Taking a bath with his pants on means they made out but didn't have sex.

Didn't you people ever take high school English? Seriously - this is all taught in Symbolism 101.

Not everybody is American.

Forget being American, it's all about perspective Genesia. Violent room could have also meant just a hectic life in general. The bath could mean him cleansing his mind and soul of all the stress. I was just never positive about it. And yes I'm American but nor did I have Symbolism 101. no no no! no no no! Thank you for your take.

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Reply #14 posted 06/21/13 8:59pm

HonestMan13

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alk9417 said:

dJJ said:

Not everybody is American.

Forget being American, it's all about perspective Genesia. Violent room could have also meant just a hectic life in general. The bath could mean him cleansing his mind and soul of all the stress. I was just never positive about it. And yes I'm American but nor did I have Symbolism 101. no no no! no no no! Thank you for your take.

When Genesia referred to "taking English" she meant English class not English lessons. In English class you learn about metaphors, similes, etc. I would assume that each nation teaches their youth about their own language and how to interpret phrases and such.

When eye go 2 a Prince concert or related event it's all heart up in the house but when eye log onto this site and the miasma of bitchiness is completely overwhelming!
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Reply #15 posted 06/22/13 7:47am

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Doenst purple rain have summin to do with the color the rain would be duringbthe end of the world....a romantic version of 1999, instead of a go out and fuck/party vibe....a little growth in the wee man.
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Reply #16 posted 06/22/13 9:46am

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jonylawson said:

Optimus2 said:

glad I aint alone on that 1!

Prince explained the meaning of the song on tavis smiley..1998

blood mixed with the blue of the sky = purple..purple rain

its about the end of the world and letting jesus guide you through.....

Taking blood of a physical body and combining it with the blue of the sky....

another interpretation...

taking the limited consciousness of an individual bound to the body...

and....

releasing it 2 become 1/won with the Universal Unlimited Consciousness

where can all b 1.

Hope that we all c it.

Eye would love to be there....while still in the physical body....

true freedom....

but this only happens with God's Grace.

~honey is b-ing 1 with the 1~
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Reply #17 posted 06/22/13 2:27pm

Genesia

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HonestMan13 said:



alk9417 said:




dJJ said:





Not everybody is American.



Forget being American, it's all about perspective Genesia. Violent room could have also meant just a hectic life in general. The bath could mean him cleansing his mind and soul of all the stress. I was just never positive about it. And yes I'm American but nor did I have Symbolism 101. no no no! no no no! Thank you for your take.



When Genesia referred to "taking English" she meant English class not English lessons. In English class you learn about metaphors, similes, etc. I would assume that each nation teaches their youth about their own language and how to interpret phrases and such.



Exactly - thank you.
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Reply #18 posted 06/22/13 3:19pm

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Yes. But some never learn.
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Reply #19 posted 06/22/13 6:20pm

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Optimus2 said:

confused

1. Purple Rain (what is Purple "Rain"?..never understood what it symbolises)

2. Holy River (what the hell has a river gt 2 do with marriage?)

3. Dolphin ("if I cum back as a dolphin"....trippy as fuck)

4. Hello (that song is just weird as fuck....ano its about we are the world..but dosnet make sense)

ok......ur turn.....

[Edited 6/20/13 18:35pm]


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Reply #20 posted 06/23/13 8:17am

Optimus2

luv2tha99s said: Optimus2 said: confused 1. Purple Rain (what is Purple "Rain"?..never understood what it symbolises) 2. Holy River (what the hell has a river gt 2 do with marriage?) 3. Dolphin ("if I cum back as a dolphin"....trippy as fuck) 4. Hello (that song is just weird as fuck....ano its about we are the world..but dosnet make sense) ok......ur turn..... [Edited 6/20/13 18:35pm] luv2tha99s comments snipped no need 4 that now is there?......Optimus2 comments snipped - langebleu - moderator

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Reply #21 posted 06/23/13 9:01am

PinkCashmere74

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luv2tha99s said: Optimus2 said: confused 1. Purple Rain (what is Purple "Rain"?..never understood what it symbolises) 2. Holy River (what the hell has a river gt 2 do with marriage?) 3. Dolphin ("if I cum back as a dolphin"....trippy as fuck) 4. Hello (that song is just weird as fuck....ano its about we are the world..but dosnet make sense) ok......ur turn..... [Edited 6/20/13 18:35pm] Comments moderated - langebleu - moderator

Music and lyrics are so subjective that if you are not in his head, how would you be able to interpret what another person is thinking, writing or implying? Unless he pulled you to the side and said, 'Hey, this is what I'm saying in this record." We are all "figuring it out" but do you think disrespect and lack of common courtesy necessary?

I took English classes in high school, undergrad and grad school; did we cover EVERY metaphor, simile, and symbol? No. That’s what makes music so amazing, you can take it and fix it to mean whatever you need it to mean in any phase of your life.

I thought this forum was for fans joining together to discuss the works of an amazing artist, not to bash, ridicule and belittle one another. I guess not.

I did have intentions of asking questions about a few lyrics I was pondering, but I think I'll keep my questions to myself. I because don't tolerate nudeness, disrespect or offensive language, so my best bet would be to keep my fingers quite.

I graciously bow out of this hostile conversation.

[Edited 6/23/13 9:04am]

[Edited 6/23/13 9:08am]

You Can Easily Judge the Character of a Man by How He Treats Those Who Can Do Nothing for Him.
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Reply #22 posted 06/23/13 9:25am

PinkCashmere74

Hey Optimus2, there are going to be some people you just have to ignore and strive to be as less like them as you can. I appreciate you asking your question. Dolphin always raised an eyebrow for me also, as well as Starfish and Coffee (Although I love and put in on my 2 year olds playtime cd) and not to mention "She gave her angels", did angels represent her virginity, her blessings, her prayers, don't forget about Tambourine. There are few of Prince's albums and lyrics that are subjective to YOUR OWN INTERPRETATION’S. Be creative and as Prince would say, "If you set your mind free baby, maybe you’ll understand."

You Can Easily Judge the Character of a Man by How He Treats Those Who Can Do Nothing for Him.
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Reply #23 posted 06/23/13 10:53am

Optimus2

PinkCashmere74 said: Hey Optimus2, there are going to be some people you just have to ignore and strive to be as less like them as you can. I appreciate you asking your question. Dolphin always raised an eyebrow for me also, as well as Starfish and Coffee (Although I love and put in on my 2 year olds playtime cd) and not to mention "She gave her angels", did angels represent her virginity, her blessings, her prayers, don't forget about Tambourine. There are few of Prince's albums and lyrics that are subjective to YOUR OWN INTERPRETATION’S. Be creative and as Prince would say, "If you set your mind free baby, maybe you’ll understand." I hear ya wink.....and thank u highfive
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Reply #24 posted 06/23/13 12:50pm

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Optimus2 said:

confused

1. Purple Rain (what is Purple "Rain"?..never understood what it symbolises)

2. Holy River (what the hell has a river gt 2 do with marriage?)

3. Dolphin ("if I cum back as a dolphin"....trippy as fuck)

4. Hello (that song is just weird as fuck....ano its about we are the world..but dosnet make sense)

ok......ur turn.....

[Edited 6/20/13 18:35pm]

Eye have the answers you seek. Read forth, read forth...

Purple Rain : In the apocalyptic world, rain would fall purple on their love they would be saved.

Holy River : Baptism often occurs in rivers -- so would the baptism of this love.

Dolphin : It means if you were really, really born as a dolphin, what would it be like?

Hello : Prince's excuses and rationalizations for not going full We Are the World (for instance, there are children starving here at home).

Bonus:

Erotic City is not really about picking the right marashino cherries all night long for tomorrow's party.

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Reply #25 posted 06/23/13 1:40pm

dJJ

That's not the meaning, is it?

99% of my posts are ironic. Maybe this post sides with the other 1%.
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Reply #26 posted 06/25/13 10:24am

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jonylawson said:

Optimus2 said:

glad I aint alone on that 1!

Prince explained the meaning of the song on tavis smiley..1998

blood mixed with the blue of the sky = purple..purple rain

its about the end of the world and letting jesus guide you through.....

That sounds like a possible revised definition, by Prince

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Reply #27 posted 06/25/13 10:27am

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I'd like to hear others understanding of Starfish & Coffee

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Reply #28 posted 06/25/13 12:15pm

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Some1 please explain to me what the words r in Animal kingdom after Prince sings "If God wanted milk in me the breast I suck.....??"
I also thought for years that Chelsea Rodgers still had a butt like a leather seat! lol
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Reply #29 posted 06/25/13 12:59pm

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SometimesIwonder said:

Some1 please explain to me what the words r in Animal kingdom after Prince sings "If God wanted milk in me the breast I suck.....??"
I also thought for years that Chelsea Rodgers still had a butt like a leather seat! lol

Would have a line around the hood...


A convoluted way of saying adults would routinely nurse if milk was beneficial for adults to consume routinely or if breast feeding was a viable nutritional choice for an adult.

Butt like a leather seat...a big juicy one that makes the pants it is in taught/tight.
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