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Thread started 12/09/02 11:53am

jonno

Subliminal Messages

i know about playing darling nikki backwardse at the end but are there any other neat and less obvious subliminal messages in prince's songs/albums.

subliminal messages interest the hell outta me so id appreciate anything you guys have come across.

thanks.
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Reply #1 posted 12/09/02 11:55am

dewmass

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If you play NPS forwards you get the message:
"This is fucking shit"
lol
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Reply #2 posted 12/09/02 11:55am

jonno

...?
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Reply #3 posted 12/09/02 12:05pm

Sly

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dewmass said:

If you play NPS forwards you get the message:
"This is fucking shit"
lol


GENIUS smile

although i should add that i don't agree!
"London, i've adopted a name that has no pronounciation.... is that cool with you?"

"YEAH!!!"

"Yeah, well then fuck those other fools!"
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Reply #4 posted 12/09/02 12:07pm

stethhtets

lol lol lol lol lol lol lol stoned lol
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Reply #5 posted 12/09/02 1:24pm

langebleu

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This comes up every so often. Prince usually back masks words in some songs. The ones I recall at the moment are:

Darling Nikki (end of song)

"Hello, how are U?
I'm fine cuz I know that the Lord is coming soon
Coming, coming soon"


Baby I'm A star (at start)

"Like what the fuck do they know?
All their taste is in their mouth
Really, what the fuck do they know?
Come on, baby
Let's go crazy!"

Girl

(Wendy singing the lyrics - but with 'boy' replacing 'girl' - played backwards

There appears to be backward masking in 'The War' perhaps at two points, but I haven't ever seen anyone able to identify what might be said.

There are also samples and other subtle spoken or sung inserts in songs which, although not particularly subliminal, are discreet such as:

'Mad' - "He's always on some medication"

'Pheremone' - "Pheromone make a nigga go crazy, fuckin' around make a nigga wanna die"

'Joint 2 Joint' where Prince repeatedly adds the word 'safe' after the looped 'sex me'


Although not subliminal, there are also a number of times were Prince inserts different spoken phrases in languages other than English, most obviously, I guess, in 'Girls and Boys', the start of 'Do U Lie?', and various comments by Mayte in songs such as Get Wild ("Ououo, peligro que aqui yo vengo!")

And of course, Prince sometimes plays around with speeding up or slowing down his voice to take on alter egos: Camille, the character in Bob George, the narrator in The Rainbow Children. Again, trying to pick up and interpret some of these parts can add interest (I appreciate the Narrator on TRC isn't everyone's favourite!) The slowed down spoken section in 'All My Dreams' is an example.
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Reply #6 posted 12/09/02 2:07pm

jonno

i dont mean to answer my own question but here is one thing that ive found:

in My Name is Prince around :55 one of the loops samples the hook from I Wanna Be Ur Lover very quietly in the background.

i know that prince samples hooks from some of his other songs as a main part of the loop(like in 2morrow the Most Beautiful Girl in the World hook is very apparent) but im pretty sure that in My Name is Prince it is supposed to be more subtle.
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Reply #7 posted 12/09/02 2:23pm

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jonno said:
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in My Name is Prince around :55 one of the loops samples the hook from I Wanna Be Ur Lover very quietly in the background.

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Yep, along with "I Wanna be Your Lover", there's short samples from "Partyup" and "Controversy" also. They appear straight after one another.
..sharmone MF..!
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Reply #8 posted 12/09/02 3:32pm

lovebizzare

langebleu said:

This comes up every so often. Prince usually back masks words in some songs. The ones I recall at the moment are:

Darling Nikki (end of song)

"Hello, how are U?
I'm fine cuz I know that the Lord is coming soon
Coming, coming soon"


Baby I'm A star (at start)

"Like what the fuck do they know?
All their taste is in their mouth
Really, what the fuck do they know?
Come on, baby
Let's go crazy!"

Girl

(Wendy singing the lyrics - but with 'boy' replacing 'girl' - played backwards

There appears to be backward masking in 'The War' perhaps at two points, but I haven't ever seen anyone able to identify what might be said.

There are also samples and other subtle spoken or sung inserts in songs which, although not particularly subliminal, are discreet such as:

'Mad' - "He's always on some medication"

'Pheremone' - "Pheromone make a nigga go crazy, fuckin' around make a nigga wanna die"

'Joint 2 Joint' where Prince repeatedly adds the word 'safe' after the looped 'sex me'


Although not subliminal, there are also a number of times were Prince inserts different spoken phrases in languages other than English, most obviously, I guess, in 'Girls and Boys', the start of 'Do U Lie?', and various comments by Mayte in songs such as Get Wild ("Ououo, peligro que aqui yo vengo!")

And of course, Prince sometimes plays around with speeding up or slowing down his voice to take on alter egos: Camille, the character in Bob George, the narrator in The Rainbow Children. Again, trying to pick up and interpret some of these parts can add interest (I appreciate the Narrator on TRC isn't everyone's favourite!) The slowed down spoken section in 'All My Dreams' is an example.
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[This message was edited Mon Dec 9 13:31:01 PST 2002 by langebleu]



Who's saying that on "baby i'm a star"? I know it's not Prince.
~KiKi
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Reply #9 posted 12/09/02 3:48pm

Haystack

I don't agree with subliminal messages, as I'm sure
'stnerapdnarg ruoy lliK'
that they're dangerous.
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Reply #10 posted 12/09/02 4:25pm

jonno

stevenevermind said:


Yep, along with "I Wanna be Your Lover", there's short samples from "Partyup" and "Controversy" also. They appear straight after one another.


ah! really? what times do they come in? right after the I Wanna be Your Lover loop?
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Reply #11 posted 12/09/02 4:33pm

Yelsiap

In the song "The Flow" there are the spanish words for "Pendejo" and "Chinga tu pinche"...really!!!
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Reply #12 posted 12/09/02 8:10pm

TheSkinMechani
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Haystack said:

I don't agree with subliminal messages, as I'm sure
'stnerapdnarg ruoy lliK'
that they're dangerous.



lol
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Reply #13 posted 12/09/02 11:04pm

harmony

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Haystack said:

I don't agree with subliminal messages, as I'm sure
'stnerapdnarg ruoy lliK'
that they're dangerous.


lol lol lol lol lol lol

that was...
'suoiralih gnikaerf gnisluvnoc ydob'
i luv it
Got Gackt??! wildsign thumbs up!
J-Rock ME 2 Death!

cat+guitar=mushy
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Reply #14 posted 12/10/02 8:29am

Yelsiap

I almost forgot to mention that Arsenio Hall is featured (although not credited) in the song "My name is prince", just as he announces "Prince and the New Power Generation!!!"
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Reply #15 posted 12/10/02 1:49pm

stevenevermind

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jono said:

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ah! really? what times do they come in? right after the I Wanna be Your Lover loop?

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sure, take a listen and you'll hear them. I thought it was quite smart when I first heard it. It reminded me of the samples they did for the Partyman remix.
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Reply #16 posted 12/10/02 4:24pm

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lovebizzare said:

langebleu said:

Baby I'm A star (at start)

"Like what the fuck do they know?
All their taste is in their mouth
Really, what the fuck do they know?
Come on, baby
Let's go crazy!"
Who's saying that on "baby i'm a star"? I know it's not Prince.
Wendy and Lisa apparently
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Reply #17 posted 12/10/02 4:36pm

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I dont send or prescribe to the fact nor believe in subliminal recorded messages..especially with all the religious talk in prince music, your're seriouly ill and will lose your hard earned money in a bet on that proposterous idea.


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Reply #18 posted 12/10/02 5:51pm

jonno

rdhull said:

I dont send or prescribe to the fact nor believe in subliminal recorded messages..especially with all the religious talk in prince music, your're seriouly ill and will lose your hard earned money in a bet on that proposterous idea.


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must... send... all... my... money... t... r...d...
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Reply #19 posted 12/12/02 9:51pm

Lammastide

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Langebleu has done a kickass job on this thread!

Although he mentioned "In All My Dreams," I'll elaborate... If you play the song at 45 rpm or above (as Prince suggests, if you listen to the song closely), you can hear an entire additional narrative that is totally unintelligible at 33 rpm! It's been years since I've done this, so I've forgotten what he says. But that one has been my favorite Prince subliminal trick ever since!

By the way, has anyone ever played Irresistible Bitch backwards? There seems to be some backtracking at the beginning. Is this correct?
Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ
πρὸς ὀλίγον ἐστὶ τὸ ζῆν
τὸ τέλος ὁ χρόνος ἀπαιτεῖ.”
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Reply #20 posted 12/12/02 10:02pm

Natasha

I don't believe in Subliminal Messages that's crap remember them talking bout Ozzy and how kids went Beserk with certain Artist's Music? Well,these kids had Problems to begin with if they were so influenced to Kill themselves. Satanic references in Zepplin remember with Page and Allistir Crowley and they say Manson is a Satanist and Mick and Anita Pallenberg with Witchcraft and you know Vanity was into Something also back then. She had a fascination with Amulets and she went to a Haunted House in Hollywood and got Arrested remember for Tresspassing. As long as things are for the Good and not the Bad then it's alright as they say White Witchcraft,but I don't Subscribe to that Religion or Kabbalah which is so new-fangled Mysticism that the Hassidics Practice. I think it's Sick! Why use Magic at all? Come Now?
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Reply #21 posted 12/12/02 10:05pm

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Lammastide said (on the subject of 'All My Dreams'

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If you play the song at 45 rpm or above (as Prince suggests, if you listen to the song closely), you can hear an entire additional narrative that is totally unintelligible at 33 rpm! It's been years since I've done this, so I've forgotten what he says.
Most, but not all of this is the message:

Welcome, this is where I live
This is where I dream my dreams
2night we'll make love until the world stops turning
U're small but very strong
U move like a cat: quickly but gentle
So insane
He caressed her in her eyes and licked her abdomen
She shivered with delight
Over and over she nibbled his ear
U'd think it was wrong 2 have so much fun
He held her tightly until it almost hurt
But his hips, they moved so slowly
She wanted 2 stop breathing
U can feel every curve of her womanhood
U can see every thought in his brain
A submarine slowly moves through the virgin sea
Oh so slowly
She wants 2 stop breathing
U... U can feel every curve

Lisa, I'm gonna give U the brush and U're gonna paint the side of the train

She squeezes tighter as the submarine goes deeper in depth
Into the unnavigated territory
A smile, ever so slight, appears on his face as she starts 2 cry
Until they come, 2gether, slowly
They wish 4 somethin', as if they could see a parallel future in the sea
They do not speak
They only stare out the moment in time

Marry me 2day and 2night we'll make love until the world stops turning
(I'm dreaming of a world)
(Wherein there shines the sun)
(Wherein there lay the stars)
(Wherein there lie the stones)
Gentle,

but quickly

By the way, has anyone ever played Irresistible Bitch backwards? There seems to be some backtracking at the beginning. Is this correct?
I'll have to have a listen
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Reply #22 posted 12/12/02 10:10pm

langebleu

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Natasha said:

I don't believe in Subliminal Messages that's crap remember them talking bout Ozzy and how kids went Beserk with certain Artist's Music?
The inclusion of subliminal messages has been shown in scientific tests to influence people. They have been used, for example, where still pictures of very arid landscapes have been inserted in advertisements which induce people to purchase drinks. Tests proved that such methods increased drinks sales in cinemas, and advertisers are outlawed, at least in some countries, from such practices.

You appear to be citing cases where the very existence of such messages was claimed but not proven in court.
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Reply #23 posted 12/12/02 10:12pm

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Langebleu, you rock! Thanks for the backtracking info
[This message was edited Thu Dec 12 22:14:25 PST 2002 by Lammastide]
Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ
πρὸς ὀλίγον ἐστὶ τὸ ζῆν
τὸ τέλος ὁ χρόνος ἀπαιτεῖ.”
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Reply #24 posted 12/12/02 10:14pm

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off the top of my head...

"One Of Us" right at the beginning he says "we didn't write this song, but when we're through it'll be ours" (or something 2 that affect.


"Starfish n Coffee" 2wards the end, he says "Starfish in Ur coffee, U'll love it, told U so"


"Anotherloverholenyohead" he whispers "starfish" 2wards the end



Can't think of any more right now... sure there are loads more though


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Reply #25 posted 12/12/02 10:17pm

Natasha

I feel absolutely Breathless and now I must go off to dream sweet thoughts. As I float and feel serenely temperate. Peace and Love...
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Reply #26 posted 12/13/02 5:54am

DrSeuss

Sorry for my ignorance, what is 'all my dreams' on?

duh
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Reply #27 posted 12/13/02 11:08am

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Those prince "subliminal messages" or samples are clearly heard through the songs... A subliminal item is in fact supposed to be hidden... Here it is more like a mysterious game Prince plays for the listeners to fill discussions about it... That's how the interest for this or that song remains (to a certain extent...)
"Goodness will guide us when love is inside of us... The Force will be with you, always"
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Reply #28 posted 12/13/02 11:09am

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DrSeuss said:

Sorry for my ignorance, what is 'all my dreams' on?

duh
Its unreleased - recorded at Sunset Sound on April 28th 1985. Originally planned for inclusion on Parade. You can hear a section of the slowed down voice as it was later added to 'Acknowledge Me' included on 'Crystal ball.' 'All My Dreams' might also have been included on 'Roadhouse Garden' when it was being considered as a release in 1998/9. (Info largely courtesy of Turn It Up 2.0)
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Reply #29 posted 12/13/02 11:17am

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And it's not only in his music.

There is a frame in the video for Alphabet Str. that spells out, "Don't buy the Black Album"
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