Isn't it a paradox, Prince is definately a real musician, like he says whan playing live in concerts..: "Real music by real musicians".. yes.. U can hear he is, live in concerts. Prince is truly gifted, no doubt. One of the greatest - ever.


HOWEVER on records he is after all one of the most boring "real musicians" these years:

Just to name a recent album: "Planet Earth". Or "20Ten" or "3121".



This is quite another artist than the guy who created "1999". Or "Purple Rain" or "Parade". Or "Lovesexy".


Why follow a "real musician" like Prince is, today... when.. the end result on his albums isn't that "vital" like it used to be..?



Most of the time today U can't hear (in his recorded music) that he really is that skilled.


I understand why young people today, thinks Prince is irrelevant. You can't really hear his greatness anymore.


Truly a paradox to me, one of the greatest musicians making "tame" music..: I need to have my idol back, making wonderful music on the edge again. Instead of that kind of "tame" music (most of it, not all).


Am I too critical, am I expecting too much from a "real musician" - his purple majesty.. = Prince ?

i think age is one of the reason

for i know, he don't do music for his fans, he just make the music which he want..

he dont want to play sexy lyrics with the age change..

he's a jerk for being so selfish..n too bad, we helplessly fallen in love with this jerk..

he's just trying tooooo hard to get rid of all his female fans who crazily in love with him cuz of the sexyness,

mmm but abt his new music, it's just different from our female fans expectation, don't think it sucks, i really loved his guitar solo with cee lo green, n loved the message in the fixurlifeup

i dont get it if people are so unhappy wit the direction prince is going on then stop listening just bounce and find another artist .with the state of music now i hold on 2 prince 4 dear life cuz nothing else out there is even close 2 being any good and plus with all of prince past music i have 2 enjoy i dont complain over current stuff

cbarnes3121 said:

i dont get it if people are so unhappy wit the direction prince is going on then stop listening just bounce and find another artist .with the state of music now i hold on 2 prince 4 dear life cuz nothing else out there is even close 2 being any good and plus with all of prince past music i have 2 enjoy i dont complain over current stuff

ughh, other artists sucks even more....ok, he's the boss, he can do watever he want, and im gonna follow him wherever he goes.. , im just can't get enough of this guy!

I actually liked alot of the mid-00's stuff... but honestly lately your right! Prince is boring, makes shit music, its like he's running in place with the same "lets remember my youth of sly in the family stone" kinda bullshit.

Sure the newest stuff is different, but where's the edge??

Religion & Larry Graham cut Prince's balls off. The guy has become a dated bore...

Basically every new song is 85% crap song with a guitar solo that saves it. ( by the way his solos arent amazing anymore either. He's to busy making a face, but there isnt anything to make a face about).

Kinda sad.

ElectricBlue said:

I actually liked alot of the mid-00's stuff... but honestly lately your right! Prince is boring, makes shit music, its like he's running in place with the same "lets remember my youth of sly in the family stone" kinda bullshit.

Sure the newest stuff is different, but where's the edge??

Religion & Larry Graham cut Prince's balls off. The guy has become a dated bore...

Basically every new song is 85% crap song with a guitar solo that saves it. ( by the way his solos arent amazing anymore either. He's to busy making a face, but there isnt anything to make a face about).

Kinda sad.

come on, just let old go, its time to accept the new prince with 3ed eye girl, lol

thedance said:

Isn't it a paradox, Prince is definately a real musician, like he says whan playing live in concerts..: "Real music by real musicians".. yes.. U can hear he is, live in concerts. Prince is truly gifted, no doubt. One of the greatest - ever.


HOWEVER on records he is after all one of the most boring "real musicians" these years:

Just to name a recent album: "Planet Earth". Or "20Ten" or "3121".



This is quite another artist than the guy who created "1999". Or "Purple Rain" or "Parade". Or "Lovesexy".


Why follow a "real musician" like Prince is, today... when.. the end result on his albums isn't that "vital" like it used to be..?



Most of the time today U can't hear (in his recorded music) that he really is that skilled.


I understand why young people today, thinks Prince is irrelevant. You can't really hear his greatness anymore.


Truly a paradox to me, one of the greatest musicians making "tame" music..: I need to have my idol back, making wonderful music on the edge again. Instead of that kind of "tame" music (most of it, not all).


Am I too critical, am I expecting too much from a "real musician" - his purple majesty.. = Prince ?

You follow Prince now to this day because you're hooked and too weak to simply let go and walk away. There's no big psychobabble reasoning behind it. It is what it is. You're not going anywhere. You'll be posting this same dreary crap in ten years and asking the same questions and challenging others to validate their fandom while clutching yours like it's a life preserver. Accept it and keep the "woe is me" threads to a minimum.

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it sounds like you want prince to go back to what he used to be which was swearing and singing nasty songs again. he addressed this issue on mtv almost 10 years ago.

thedance said:

Isn't it a paradox, Prince is definately a real musician, like he says whan playing live in concerts..: "Real music by real musicians".. yes.. U can hear he is, live in concerts. Prince is truly gifted, no doubt. One of the greatest - ever.


HOWEVER on records he is after all one of the most boring "real musicians" these years:

Just to name a recent album: "Planet Earth". Or "20Ten" or "3121".



This is quite another artist than the guy who created "1999". Or "Purple Rain" or "Parade". Or "Lovesexy".


Why follow a "real musician" like Prince is, today... when.. the end result on his albums isn't that "vital" like it used to be..?



Most of the time today U can't hear (in his recorded music) that he really is that skilled.


I understand why young people today, thinks Prince is irrelevant. You can't really hear his greatness anymore.


Truly a paradox to me, one of the greatest musicians making "tame" music..: I need to have my idol back, making wonderful music on the edge again. Instead of that kind of "tame" music (most of it, not all).


Am I too critical, am I expecting too much from a "real musician" - his purple majesty.. = Prince ?

andykeen said:

I've often wondered why since the 2000s Prince has surrounded himself with top musicians, however, rarely seems to utilise them or even his own skills in the studio. Looking back, I would of thought P would have been creating really concept/Zappa like stuff....the 90's really killed him. It brought Cheese-pop to the studio.

^ yeah... that's the "paradox" I was talking about.


We all know Prince is a brilliant musician live, he's maybe the greatest alive today.


yet it's hard to hear just how good he is, -- in his studio works (the recent music).


A lot of the music seems so average, it seems not really created by "a real musician".


That's a real shame, and a "paradox", well it is imo...

thedance said:

Why follow a "real musician" like Prince is, today... when.. the end result on his albums isn't that "vital" like it used to be..?

You tell us. You are the one saying his new music sucks, yet are posting at his fansite. Do you need others to validate your opinion?

Ok, all opinions are welcome.

but.. to those who "attacks" me..


don't you agree with me, on the premise there's a "paradox" in how skilled Prince is live as a "real musician", and then the kind of weak studio music he is releasing..?

All this about "real music by real musicians"; do you really believe his latest recordings sounds like top music made by this real musician.

My problem is : I would love to have my idol "back", but I have my doubts that will happen. But I still cross my fingers for a good 2013.

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andykeen said:

I've often wondered why since the 2000s Prince has surrounded himself with top musicians, however, rarely seems to utilise them or even his own skills in the studio. Looking back, I would of thought P would have been creating really concept/Zappa like stuff....the 90's really killed him. It brought Cheese-pop to the studio.

I remember reading an interview he gave in 2004 to Guitar Player magazine and the writer asked Prince, why he hires top notch-grade A musicians like John Blackwell, Renato Neto and Maceo Parker in your band and hardly use them for your studio recordings. Paraphrasing Prince answered: "If I bring John Blackwell to the studio, he will do things differently than how I envisioned it. I can't even play "When Doves Cry" the way I originally planned to. It's like Billy Wilder. The reason his films are so seamless is because he did everything himself".

I was really disappointed that Prince didn't utilize the ONA players more in the studio. That vibe of that band is so mature and sophisticated. Like andykeen said, Prince from 2001-2003 was making music that followed his own artistic impulses and eshewed commerciality. After the Musicology album (which I love) he made 3121, which is a better major label album than Rave, but that's not saying a lot.

I was very pleased with "Condensate by the Original 7ven and showed that the Minneapolis Sound can be made by using analog instruments (real bass and drums). 20TEN sounds so forced like he is dying to please fans that can't leave the '80s.

There's a lot of people who would think tracks on Parade, SOTT, and Lovesexy are total weak shit compared to 1999 and Purple Rain.

ALWAYS KEEP THAT IN MIND.

thedance said:

Not being sarcastic, but maybe you need a new stereo? Listening to tracks on a computer or ipod, smartphone, or whatever the latest gadget is distorts the music...

I enjoy Prince's output of today and yes, it may be somewhat different than what's past, but truly its all good.

Thicke's latest song that went to #1 -- is catchy but --- really? no disrespect to Thicke, T.I. and Pharrell but the lyrics are trivial and the sound....that's NOT music...so beauty is in the 3rdEye of the beholder.

ElectricBlue said:

I actually liked alot of the mid-00's stuff... but honestly lately your right! Prince is boring, makes shit music, its like he's running in place with the same "lets remember my youth of sly in the family stone" kinda bullshit.

Sure the newest stuff is different, but where's the edge??

Religion & Larry Graham cut Prince's balls off. The guy has become a dated bore...

Basically every new song is 85% crap song with a guitar solo that saves it. ( by the way his solos arent amazing anymore either. He's to busy making a face, but there isnt anything to make a face about).

Kinda sad.

I agree..

He lacks new original ideas, and stuff.. Tho I like Musicology album, but the rest of his work are total utter bulshit.. I can't stand it

20Ten was pretty good...

I think many of you ask things of other people that you probably can't do yourself. That is, to be perfect and innovative forever. I believe his body of work is still amazing to listen to. Yes, he may not create songs like he used to like the past, but he's been in the game since he was 19. He's now 55. He has nothing to prove anymore and you will not find any artist who puts out a perfect album all the time for their entire career. there will always hits and misses. I'm just realistic.

You say you want your idol back? its not really prince's job to fill that void you have in your life. why not try to break away from Prince world and check out new artists, especially ones signed by independent labels.

I enjoy a lot of his new music, so I can't really comment on this "paradox" that you spout about.

wonder505 said:

kangafunk said:

SuperSoulFighter said:

thedance said:

andykeen said:

I've often wondered why since the 2000s Prince has surrounded himself with top musicians, however, rarely seems to utilise them or even his own skills in the studio. Looking back, I would of thought P would have been creating really concept/Zappa like stuff....the 90's really killed him. It brought Cheese-pop to the studio.

^ yeah... that's the "paradox" I was talking about.


We all know Prince is a brilliant musician live, he's maybe the greatest alive today.


yet it's hard to hear just how good he is, -- in his studio works (the recent music).


A lot of the music seems so average, it seems not really created by "a real musician".


That's a real shame, and a "paradox", well it is imo...

Because being a musician isn't what it takes, if by being a musician we just mean "can play instruments with some proficiency." Top notch musicians, without something good to play, can only do so much.

I don't agree that he's completely dropped off, but what's missing is not his playing--it's the musical ideas that matter. And I'm not sure if that's not just a matter of his running out. He's put more down than most, maybe it's just not there anymore--at least not the earth-shaking stuff.

Or maybe he just doesn't listen to enough stuff. He always worked at combining and juxtaposing from different things--if he's not listening (and he routinely brags that he doesn't) than he's stuck with the same stuff to build from.

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thedance said: