Reason: "Dig U Better Dead" came on when I was driving home with my 2 1/2 yr old a few weeks ago.

He LOVES this song. Asks for it everytime i start the car. Problem is, the part he can hear the clearest is the line "A toke or 2, what the fuck? (what the fuck?)"

He sings it with crystal clear clarity. Literally screams it, and i wince.

So, is there a clean version of this out there? I'm waiting for a report from school asking why he's going around saying "what the fuck" if I keep playing it as is.

Not that im aware of.. Try editing the song your self ?

maybe it was featured in one of the ahdioshows from npgmc?

the songs that had curse words in them were censored for the

ahdioshows. so that would be your best chance. but as i said,

i'm not sure if it was ever featured on any ahdioshow.

Question is: Is there a good version of the song?

LadyZsaZsa said:

BlackandRising said:

He sings it with crystal clear clarity. Literally screams it, and i wince.

If he is screaming it with crystal clear clarity then it's a bit fucking late to be finding a clean version.

As far as I can remember, my parents used all kind of profanities all the time and I also was allowed to use them... at home. They just took the time to explain me from the very start that some words were offensive if used outside of our intimate family circle, and I understood it very clearly, and therefore i "swore by the rules".

Children are not brainless parrots, they understand things if well explained. A child who's allowed to hear and use cursing in his private environment is more likely NOT to use it publicly than a child who's supposedly "protected" from it, fobidden to use it, but will eventually hear all these words anyway and want to break a taboo by using them in unappropriate places.

Let the kid hear the song as it is, just tell him about the bad words.

BlackandRising said:

Reason: "Dig U Better Dead" came on when I was driving home with my 2 1/2 yr old a few weeks ago.

He LOVES this song. Asks for it everytime i start the car. Problem is, the part he can hear the clearest is the line "A toke or 2, what the fuck? (what the fuck?)"

He sings it with crystal clear clarity. Literally screams it, and i wince.

So, is there a clean version of this out there? I'm waiting for a report from school asking why he's going around saying "what the fuck" if I keep playing it as is.

erm

just dont play it

he is 2.

end of

even without the fuck word do yoju really want a two year old dinging 'dig you better dead??"

its hardly the teletubbies

errant said:

Splice in your own bleep

yeah, maybe use Audacity.. (it's free afaik).

what the

databank said:

As far as I can remember, my parents used all kind of profanities all the time and I also was allowed to use them... at home. They just took the time to explain me from the very start that some words were offensive if used outside of our intimate family circle, and I understood it very clearly, and therefore i "swore by the rules".

Children are not brainless parrots, they understand things if well explained. A child who's allowed to hear and use cursing in his private environment is more likely NOT to use it publicly than a child who's supposedly "protected" from it, fobidden to use it, but will eventually hear all these words anyway and want to break a taboo by using them in unappropriate places.

Let the kid hear the song as it is, just tell him about the bad words.

Whenever a moment like that comes on, I just turn the volume down for that split second. Does not work well with Sexy MF.

I'm more concerned that you allow him to listen to such a poor, poor song. Disgusting.

databank said:

As far as I can remember, my parents used all kind of profanities all the time and I also was allowed to use them... at home. They just took the time to explain me from the very start that some words were offensive if used outside of our intimate family circle, and I understood it very clearly, and therefore i "swore by the rules".

Children are not brainless parrots, they understand things if well explained. A child who's allowed to hear and use cursing in his private environment is more likely NOT to use it publicly than a child who's supposedly "protected" from it, fobidden to use it, but will eventually hear all these words anyway and want to break a taboo by using them in unappropriate places.

Let the kid hear the song as it is, just tell him about the bad words.

You know, this is great advice...thanks! I was thinking of trying to explain it this way to him, as he's going to hear them sooner or later and mimic it, so sounds fairly effective to create a "rules systems" around swearing.

Are you a parent? I have to say I hear a number of kids singing what they hear just out and about and apparently there are lots of parents that let their kids listen and sing anything without any guidance.

jonylawson said:

even without the fuck word do yoju really want a two year old dinging 'dig you better dead??"

its hardly the teletubbies

Curious, do you have a kid? if so, you know how committed they are to verbalizing what they want, when they want it. Doesn't do well when you're driving in San Francisco traffic. And, I like that he likes it.

billymeade said:

Whenever a moment like that comes on, I just turn the volume down for that split second. Does not work well with Sexy MF.

I actually scream "what the duck"

BlackandRising said:

databank said:

As far as I can remember, my parents used all kind of profanities all the time and I also was allowed to use them... at home. They just took the time to explain me from the very start that some words were offensive if used outside of our intimate family circle, and I understood it very clearly, and therefore i "swore by the rules".

Children are not brainless parrots, they understand things if well explained. A child who's allowed to hear and use cursing in his private environment is more likely NOT to use it publicly than a child who's supposedly "protected" from it, fobidden to use it, but will eventually hear all these words anyway and want to break a taboo by using them in unappropriate places.

Let the kid hear the song as it is, just tell him about the bad words.

You know, this is great advice...thanks! I was thinking of trying to explain it this way to him, as he's going to hear them sooner or later and mimic it, so sounds fairly effective to create a "rules systems" around swearing.

Are you a parent? I have to say I hear a number of kids singing what they hear just out and about and apparently there are lots of parents that let their kids listen and sing anything without any guidance.

No but I am a godfather and I swear in front of my godson, and so does his parents, and still he never swear in front of strangers because he's also aware of the context. It worked for me, it works for him, I'm sure if the kid has no reason to overtly defy his folks because of some problems in the relationship it can work in most cases.

I don't know about these kids who repeat things like that. I was lucky because, despite their many failures as parents, my folks had one quality: they took the time to explain, discuss, put things in context. I was allowed to ask questions, I was allowed to disagree and even if in the end they would have the last word about what could be done or not, i was still entitled to having my own opinion and the right to speak my mind. Maybe that's what many parents don't do: reasoning with their kids, IDK really. I've seen it many times: parents create a world or yes and no, allowed and not allowed, good and bad, all with a big PERIOD at the end of the sentence and no explananation about why it's gotta be that way. So by defaulty everything that's out of the pre-defined set of rules is considered either allowed or forbidden by default, depending on the child's personality and that can include things they hear when their folks ain't around. That or breaking the taboo as I said earlier.

Basically what I understood when I was very, very young (I'm talking maybe 4 years old if not longer) was that if I would behave in the inapropriate way in front of strangers, they would think I'm a rude individual and they would reject me. I was not told it was good or bad, just that it was factually how the world was. From that point i was able to try and deduce by myself what was appropriate and when and what wasn't, and to take responsability for what I did. No kid wants to be rejected by strangers and every kid likes to think by themselves if given the opportunity.

databank said:

BlackandRising said:

You know, this is great advice...thanks! I was thinking of trying to explain it this way to him, as he's going to hear them sooner or later and mimic it, so sounds fairly effective to create a "rules systems" around swearing.

Are you a parent? I have to say I hear a number of kids singing what they hear just out and about and apparently there are lots of parents that let their kids listen and sing anything without any guidance.

No but I am a godfather and I swear in front of my godson, and so does his parents, and still he never swear in front of strangers because he's also aware of the context. It worked for me, it works for him, I'm sure if the kid has no reason to overtly defy his folks because of some problems in the relationship it can work in most cases.

I don't know about these kids who repeat things like that. I was lucky because, despite their many failures as parents, my folks had one quality: they took the time to explain, discuss, put things in context. I was allowed to ask questions, I was allowed to disagree and even if in the end they would have the last word about what could be done or not, i was still entitled to having my own opinion and the right to speak my mind. Maybe that's what many parents don't do: reasoning with their kids, IDK really. I've seen it many times: parents create a world or yes and no, allowed and not allowed, good and bad, all with a big PERIOD at the end of the sentence and no explananation about why it's gotta be that way. So by defaulty everything that's out of the pre-defined set of rules is considered either allowed or forbidden by default, depending on the child's personality and that can include things they hear when their folks ain't around. That or breaking the taboo as I said earlier.

Basically what I understood when I was very, very young (I'm talking maybe 4 years old if not longer) was that if I would behave in the inapropriate way in front of strangers, they would think I'm a rude individual and they would reject me. I was not told it was good or bad, just that it was factually how the world was. From that point i was able to try and deduce by myself what was appropriate and when and what wasn't, and to take responsability for what I did. No kid wants to be rejected by strangers and every kid likes to think by themselves if given the opportunity.

Damn man, that is hella insightful. Thank you. We do try to never just say "yes or no" and that is that; we try to explain why he should or should not do this, the reward/consequence of doing so, etc. I think you're right; a lot of parents that I know are very dictatorial with their kids, and I have to say I don't like the effect it has on them. So when this song came on and i remembered the lyrics, my first inclination was to shut it off, but then thought about it and explained why it's not nice to use that word. At 2 1/2 he probably doesn't "get" it yet, but I think explaining that it's a bad word and what not has prevented any reports of his saying "fuck". I don't want to tell him no, you can't listen to anything he likes because of this or that. If he likes it and it's within reason, I want him to be able to absorb it, whatever it may be.

yes im a parent and i think its sounds abhorent if i hear any child swear...

it looks very bad on the way they are being brought up

NO excuses for a 2 year old swearing...

your job is TO PROTECT THEIR INNOCENCE AND ALLOW THEM TO BE A CHILD

i would be horrified if my nine year old or any of his pals ever swore as i would be horrified if any adult swore round him

zero excuse

BlackandRising said:

jonylawson said:

even without the fuck word do yoju really want a two year old dinging 'dig you better dead??"

its hardly the teletubbies

Curious, do you have a kid? if so, you know how committed they are to verbalizing what they want, when they want it. Doesn't do well when you're driving in San Francisco traffic. And, I like that he likes it.

"how committed they are to verbalising"

erm no...and neither does any child i know

i also coach kids football and none of those 8-9 year olds swear.

im pretty concerned by your attitude

BlackandRising said:

databank said:

No but I am a godfather and I swear in front of my godson, and so does his parents, and still he never swear in front of strangers because he's also aware of the context. It worked for me, it works for him, I'm sure if the kid has no reason to overtly defy his folks because of some problems in the relationship it can work in most cases.

I don't know about these kids who repeat things like that. I was lucky because, despite their many failures as parents, my folks had one quality: they took the time to explain, discuss, put things in context. I was allowed to ask questions, I was allowed to disagree and even if in the end they would have the last word about what could be done or not, i was still entitled to having my own opinion and the right to speak my mind. Maybe that's what many parents don't do: reasoning with their kids, IDK really. I've seen it many times: parents create a world or yes and no, allowed and not allowed, good and bad, all with a big PERIOD at the end of the sentence and no explananation about why it's gotta be that way. So by defaulty everything that's out of the pre-defined set of rules is considered either allowed or forbidden by default, depending on the child's personality and that can include things they hear when their folks ain't around. That or breaking the taboo as I said earlier.

Basically what I understood when I was very, very young (I'm talking maybe 4 years old if not longer) was that if I would behave in the inapropriate way in front of strangers, they would think I'm a rude individual and they would reject me. I was not told it was good or bad, just that it was factually how the world was. From that point i was able to try and deduce by myself what was appropriate and when and what wasn't, and to take responsability for what I did. No kid wants to be rejected by strangers and every kid likes to think by themselves if given the opportunity.

Damn man, that is hella insightful. Thank you. We do try to never just say "yes or no" and that is that; we try to explain why he should or should not do this, the reward/consequence of doing so, etc. I think you're right; a lot of parents that I know are very dictatorial with their kids, and I have to say I don't like the effect it has on them. So when this song came on and i remembered the lyrics, my first inclination was to shut it off, but then thought about it and explained why it's not nice to use that word. At 2 1/2 he probably doesn't "get" it yet, but I think explaining that it's a bad word and what not has prevented any reports of his saying "fuck". I don't want to tell him no, you can't listen to anything he likes because of this or that. If he likes it and it's within reason, I want him to be able to absorb it, whatever it may be.

Why, u seem to have the right attitude, there shouldn't be any problem, then

Of course I wouldn't go as far as to have a 2 years old exposed to hardcore things about sex or violence because there is a limit to the amount of shit they can take or comprehend at such a young age (though if they happened to be exposed by accident then a good explaination might save the day), but with swearing it should all work well. The funny thing is that this song has a pretty complex and moral meaning, and so does Sexy MF actually (it's kinda feminist in a way if u pay attention), and explaining the deep meaning of the whole thing may prove more difficult than to speak about the F word

Don't worry, u and ur wife seem to be great parents, it's gonna be fine

jonylawson said:

BlackandRising said:

Curious, do you have a kid? if so, you know how committed they are to verbalizing what they want, when they want it. Doesn't do well when you're driving in San Francisco traffic. And, I like that he likes it.

"how committed they are to verbalising"

erm no...and neither does any child i know

i also coach kids football and none of those 8-9 year olds swear.

im pretty concerned by your attitude

Sorry, I read your posts in a Dalek voice. And even though you're a parent and teach football, I think I'll take databank's comments over yours on this topic.

databank said:

BlackandRising said:

Damn man, that is hella insightful. Thank you. We do try to never just say "yes or no" and that is that; we try to explain why he should or should not do this, the reward/consequence of doing so, etc. I think you're right; a lot of parents that I know are very dictatorial with their kids, and I have to say I don't like the effect it has on them. So when this song came on and i remembered the lyrics, my first inclination was to shut it off, but then thought about it and explained why it's not nice to use that word. At 2 1/2 he probably doesn't "get" it yet, but I think explaining that it's a bad word and what not has prevented any reports of his saying "fuck". I don't want to tell him no, you can't listen to anything he likes because of this or that. If he likes it and it's within reason, I want him to be able to absorb it, whatever it may be.

Why, u seem to have the right attitude, there shouldn't be any problem, then

Of course I wouldn't go as far as to have a 2 years old exposed to hardcore things about sex or violence because there is a limit to the amount of shit they can take or comprehend at such a young age (though if they happened to be exposed by accident then a good explaination might save the day), but with swearing it should all work well. The funny thing is that this song has a pretty complex and moral meaning, and so does Sexy MF actually (it's kinda feminist in a way if u pay attention), and explaining the deep meaning of the whole thing may prove more difficult than to speak about the F word

Don't worry, u and ur wife seem to be great parents, it's gonna be fine

Exactly. The second thing I thought when he responded to this song, after hoping he didn't go to school and sing the song, was that one day he will hear the actual message and understand with crystal clear clarity what he's up against being and what he has to do to attain what he wants. I really appreciate your comments around this. You do this shit day in and day out without thinking about it, and a run of the mill post like this makes it all coalesce into something I can sit back and wrap my hear around. And we do keep him away from sex and violence...it's all about Yo Gabba Gabba right now when the tv's on.

jonylawson said:

even without the fuck word do yoju really want a two year old dinging 'dig you better dead??"

its hardly the teletubbies

agree -- the phrase 'dig you better dead' is a whole lot more disturbing.

You'd have a lot of beeping to do in that song

I use the "at home only" rule too and it works well! My daughter in now 6 yo, she probably know more bad words than I do by now but she NEVER use them except when it's me and her (and her brother) alone. We joke and play with them, but she knows some people may feel offended or hurted and I explained her that when you're with other people, it's everyone responsability to make things as comfortable as possible for EVERY person that's there in that moment. I started explaining this when she was 2 and she picked it up quite quickly... And now, althought she CAN use bad words with a good ability, she always scold my hubby if he says something inappropriate.

I mean. He knows the song already, and he'll hear bad words sooner or later anyway... Take this chance to explain how it works, it may come handy even later.

Violence or sex are completely different problems IMHO.

coffeebreak said:

I use the "at home only" rule too and it works well! My daughter in now 6 yo, she probably know more bad words than I do by now but she NEVER use them except when it's me and her (and her brother) alone. We joke and play with them, but she knows some people may feel offended or hurted and I explained her that when you're with other people, it's everyone responsability to make things as comfortable as possible for EVERY person that's there in that moment. I started explaining this when she was 2 and she picked it up quite quickly... And now, althought she CAN use bad words with a good ability, she always scold my hubby if he says something inappropriate.

I mean. He knows the song already, and he'll hear bad words sooner or later anyway... Take this chance to explain how it works, it may come handy even later.

Violence or sex are completely different problems IMHO.

you lot have to be american right?

2-6 you freely "fuck" etc around children?

wow...that is wrong on so so many levels

I am italian and I have no idea what you are talking about

What I'm saying is that one thing is teaching a kid how to use proper/unappropriate language, and what's the meaning of words, another thing is expose him to violence or sex scenes (even if only on TV, and there is so much "sex" everywhere, but that's off topic completely, we're talking about words here). Of course he's going to find out about all of it, but there's a place and time to talk about different things, that's it.

At 2 yo, like the OP kid, it may not be too early to talk about bad words, why people use it, what effect they make. Especially if he already had the chance to hear some Of course it depends on the kid, too.