independent and unofficial
Prince fan community
Welcome! Sign up or enter username and password to remember me
Forum jump
Forums > Prince: Music and More > and why would a 'young' Artist want to work with Prince..seriously would you work with him?
« Previous topic  Next topic »
Page 1 of 2 12>
  New topic   Printable     (Log in to 'subscribe' to this topic)
Author

Tweet     Share

Message
Thread started 05/17/13 7:26am

funkyhead

and why would a 'young' Artist want to work with Prince..seriously would you work with him?

“I don’t have time for old people,” he insisted. “I want to work with young people.”

Are you shittin' me!. He really actually said that!..be funny if Jesus finally had his 2nd coming, knocked on the doors of Paisley Park and P hit's him with THAT quote!!..but I digress!!

O.K. so the fuckwit with a heart of stone [oh sorry..IMHO!] wants to be feed of the talent of the young!. O.K. here's my spin..I think it's totally brilliant that he's working with younger people and the benefits , in theory should result in some great music. Many have longed for it and here it is, the LOL gigs sounds fab and, 'fro' aside he's looking happy & healthy.

However how can he be so dismissive of those who are apparently 'old', LG, W&L [that's a thread on its own!], Eric Leeds, Maceo, The Time and others within the MPLS scene. Then you have true ledgends, Dylan, Clapton, Bowie, Santana etc...is he really dismissing those.

So, my point is..why the fuck would any young artist want to work with him? The upside? = shit loads of publicity / CV building ..worked with a living ledgend blah, blah!. Experience or perfoming with larger audiences, etc. BUT creatively i.e. in the studio?..forget about it. You get a Prince record, he's the boss..unless he wants to get in your knickers!, he just doesn't write good songs [mostly] anymore, his production is lame, his instrumentaion choices are stuck in old school, lack of promotion / marketing tells its own story etc., the pay is apparently shit and he's a fucking tyrant!!

The creative evidence..listen to the actual songs that he's done with 3rd eye girl!..the man is creatively spent or just doesn't give a damn about making albums anymore.

So would you work with him?!

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #1 posted 05/17/13 7:32am

Sassey

No, for mostly all of the reasons you mentioned.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #2 posted 05/17/13 7:56am

RodeoSchro

I'd let my 16-year-old daughter work with him. It would be an honor.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #3 posted 05/17/13 8:12am

tab32792

this may sound stupid but if i was just starting out? yes. Andy Allo's album would've been a classic if it was all prince singing. so if prince gave me an album of that caliber and i released it with a big record label or even Kobalt, it would be good. get my name out, with his name backing the project, blah blah blah, then next album do as i please.

when people see anything with his name to it, washed up as you say or not, people pay attention to an extent.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #4 posted 05/17/13 8:24am

funkyhead

RodeoSchro said:

I'd let my 16-year-old daughter work with him. It would be an honor.

welcome to the org..Maytes mother!!!

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #5 posted 05/17/13 8:53am

RadarBob

My take is that Prince is still very intensely creative and continues to record and rehearse long hours. He seems to live in the moment and does things on very short notice. I think it's easier for younger musicians to make the kind of commitment it requires to work with him on a regular basis. I doubt he is dismissing older musicians all together, but the players he surrounds himself with have to willfully enter into a sort of servitude, and set any kind of balanced life aside. No doubt it's harder for more established muscians to do that. Besides, I'm sure he likes younger people's energy and willingness to be on call.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #6 posted 05/17/13 8:57am

thedance

avatar

imo, Prince is rather old himself,

.

isn't that kind of irony that he says what he says..?

Prince 4Ever. heart
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #7 posted 05/17/13 9:07am

Sassey

funkyhead said:

RodeoSchro said:

I'd let my 16-year-old daughter work with him. It would be an honor.

welcome to the org..Maytes mother!!!

Ha! It's funny how Mama Nelly stomped her foot on the ground as if Prince was under it and told him to be nice in the first season of Hollywood Exes. Whoever thinks Mama Nelly doesn't know Prince the man and musician is just naive and probably worships Prince and thinks too highly of him. Similar to the way she did when she first met him.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #8 posted 05/17/13 9:13am

purple1968

funkyhead said:

“I don’t have time for old people,” he insisted. “I want to work with young people.”

Are you shittin' me!. He really actually said that!..be funny if Jesus finally had his 2nd coming, knocked on the doors of Paisley Park and P hit's him with THAT quote!!..but I digress!!

O.K. so the fuckwit with a heart of stone [oh sorry..IMHO!] wants to be feed of the talent of the young!. O.K. here's my spin..I think it's totally brilliant that he's working with younger people and the benefits , in theory should result in some great music. Many have longed for it and here it is, the LOL gigs sounds fab and, 'fro' aside he's looking happy & healthy.

However how can he be so dismissive of those who are apparently 'old', LG, W&L [that's a thread on its own!], Eric Leeds, Maceo, The Time and others within the MPLS scene. Then you have true ledgends, Dylan, Clapton, Bowie, Santana etc...is he really dismissing those.

So, my point is..why the fuck would any young artist want to work with him? The upside? = shit loads of publicity / CV building ..worked with a living ledgend blah, blah!. Experience or perfoming with larger audiences, etc. BUT creatively i.e. in the studio?..forget about it. You get a Prince record, he's the boss..unless he wants to get in your knickers!, he just doesn't write good songs [mostly] anymore, his production is lame, his instrumentaion choices are stuck in old school, lack of promotion / marketing tells its own story etc., the pay is apparently shit and he's a fucking tyrant!!

The creative evidence..listen to the actual songs that he's done with 3rd eye girl!..the man is creatively spent or just doesn't give a damn about making albums anymore.

So would you work with him?!

Loads of artist want to work with him. How many times have we heard some new artist or band list him as an inspiration. The Goyte guy was kissing is ass on the Grammy's. Once again some of you need to get off of the board and check out what other artist are really saying.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #9 posted 05/17/13 9:22am

Sassey

Some of us don't care what other artists are saying or which artist, writer, fan, etc. are kissing his ass. I never have and I never will kiss his ass. I don't care if he can play several instruments, sing, dance, and he's been in the entertainment business for over 35 years. I don't kiss ass.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #10 posted 05/17/13 9:25am

SpiritOtter

Sassey, do you like Prince?

Spirit
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #11 posted 05/17/13 9:31am

Sassey

SpiritOtter said:

Sassey, do you like Prince? Spirit

I love him. He deserves to be loved. I don't like his behavior at all, and again for I don't know how many times, I don't like the way he and his people go about getting $$$ and attention.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #12 posted 05/17/13 9:32am

funkyhead

purple1968 said:

funkyhead said:

“I don’t have time for old people,” he insisted. “I want to work with young people.”

Are you shittin' me!. He really actually said that!..be funny if Jesus finally had his 2nd coming, knocked on the doors of Paisley Park and P hit's him with THAT quote!!..but I digress!!

O.K. so the fuckwit with a heart of stone [oh sorry..IMHO!] wants to be feed of the talent of the young!. O.K. here's my spin..I think it's totally brilliant that he's working with younger people and the benefits , in theory should result in some great music. Many have longed for it and here it is, the LOL gigs sounds fab and, 'fro' aside he's looking happy & healthy.

However how can he be so dismissive of those who are apparently 'old', LG, W&L [that's a thread on its own!], Eric Leeds, Maceo, The Time and others within the MPLS scene. Then you have true ledgends, Dylan, Clapton, Bowie, Santana etc...is he really dismissing those.

So, my point is..why the fuck would any young artist want to work with him? The upside? = shit loads of publicity / CV building ..worked with a living ledgend blah, blah!. Experience or perfoming with larger audiences, etc. BUT creatively i.e. in the studio?..forget about it. You get a Prince record, he's the boss..unless he wants to get in your knickers!, he just doesn't write good songs [mostly] anymore, his production is lame, his instrumentaion choices are stuck in old school, lack of promotion / marketing tells its own story etc., the pay is apparently shit and he's a fucking tyrant!!

The creative evidence..listen to the actual songs that he's done with 3rd eye girl!..the man is creatively spent or just doesn't give a damn about making albums anymore.

So would you work with him?!

Loads of artist want to work with him. How many times have we heard some new artist or band list him as an inspiration. The Goyte guy was kissing is ass on the Grammy's. Once again some of you need to get off of the board and check out what other artist are really saying.

now there's a thing [a nd a point well made] There have been many that have referenced him, young , hip artists i.e. Jesse Ware, Goyte, Hot Chip and many others. That is great AND it makes me proud BUT the reality is that if it lead to a collaboration I think it will be a 1 way street and lead to blandness. The fact is that HE is too old, TOO MUCH OF A CONTROL FREAK and too set in his ways to be working with young , hip dudes. It works well when an established artist lets someone else drive..look at Tom Jones come back [yes i said TJ!]

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #13 posted 05/17/13 9:32am

funkyhead

thedance said:

imo, Prince is rather old himself,

.

isn't that kind of irony that he says what he says..?

LOL, too true!

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #14 posted 05/17/13 9:37am

murph

Again....fuck this place....lol

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #15 posted 05/17/13 9:54am

funkyhead

murph said:

Again....fuck this place....lol

LOL, O.K. i'll start a 'Prince ain't as good as he used to be' thread just for you!!..OR..'How tall is Prince'!!! razz

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #16 posted 05/17/13 10:45am

purple1968

funkyhead said:

purple1968 said:

Loads of artist want to work with him. How many times have we heard some new artist or band list him as an inspiration. The Goyte guy was kissing is ass on the Grammy's. Once again some of you need to get off of the board and check out what other artist are really saying.

now there's a thing [a nd a point well made] There have been many that have referenced him, young , hip artists i.e. Jesse Ware, Goyte, Hot Chip and many others. That is great AND it makes me proud BUT the reality is that if it lead to a collaboration I think it will be a 1 way street and lead to blandness. The fact is that HE is too old, TOO MUCH OF A CONTROL FREAK and too set in his ways to be working with young , hip dudes. It works well when an established artist lets someone else drive..look at Tom Jones come back [yes i said TJ!]

lead to a collaboration - but it has not lead to a collaboration !!! You are living in the land of could of woulda never happened land.

I Think- That is right you think you do not know what would happen.

You do not know dude so you have no earthly idea about what he would do or what would happen Just the fact that he wants to work young people means he has an open mind to new things and ideas but I know you would like it if put the Reveloution bac together and did PR part 2 and went out a big tour with all his protegees.(LOL) Fuck that and fuck this B.S. on thiis board.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #17 posted 05/17/13 10:50am

funkyhead

purple1968 said:

funkyhead said:

now there's a thing [a nd a point well made] There have been many that have referenced him, young , hip artists i.e. Jesse Ware, Goyte, Hot Chip and many others. That is great AND it makes me proud BUT the reality is that if it lead to a collaboration I think it will be a 1 way street and lead to blandness. The fact is that HE is too old, TOO MUCH OF A CONTROL FREAK and too set in his ways to be working with young , hip dudes. It works well when an established artist lets someone else drive..look at Tom Jones come back [yes i said TJ!]

lead to a collaboration - but it has not lead to a collaboration !!! You are living in the land of could of woulda never happened land.

I Think- That is right you think you do not know what would happen.

You do not know dude so you have no earthly idea about what he would do or what would happen Just the fact that he wants to work young people means he has an open mind to new things and ideas but I know you would like it if put the Reveloution bac together and did PR part 2 and went out a big tour with all his protegees.(LOL) Fuck that and fuck this B.S. on thiis board.

enjoy your weekend!

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #18 posted 05/17/13 11:00am

mzspongebob

avatar

funkyhead said:

RodeoSchro said:

I'd let my 16-year-old daughter work with him. It would be an honor.

welcome to the org..Maytes mother!!!

i laughed so hard i choked on my breakfast lmao falloff

welp
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #19 posted 05/17/13 11:55am

databank

avatar

funkyhead said:

“I don’t have time for old people,” he insisted. “I want to work with young people.”

Are you shittin' me!. He really actually said that!..be funny if Jesus finally had his 2nd coming, knocked on the doors of Paisley Park and P hit's him with THAT quote!!..but I digress!!

O.K. so the fuckwit with a heart of stone [oh sorry..IMHO!] wants to be feed of the talent of the young!. O.K. here's my spin..I think it's totally brilliant that he's working with younger people and the benefits , in theory should result in some great music. Many have longed for it and here it is, the LOL gigs sounds fab and, 'fro' aside he's looking happy & healthy.

However how can he be so dismissive of those who are apparently 'old', LG, W&L [that's a thread on its own!], Eric Leeds, Maceo, The Time and others within the MPLS scene. Then you have true ledgends, Dylan, Clapton, Bowie, Santana etc...is he really dismissing those.

So, my point is..why the fuck would any young artist want to work with him? The upside? = shit loads of publicity / CV building ..worked with a living ledgend blah, blah!. Experience or perfoming with larger audiences, etc. BUT creatively i.e. in the studio?..forget about it. You get a Prince record, he's the boss..unless he wants to get in your knickers!, he just doesn't write good songs [mostly] anymore, his production is lame, his instrumentaion choices are stuck in old school, lack of promotion / marketing tells its own story etc., the pay is apparently shit and he's a fucking tyrant!!

The creative evidence..listen to the actual songs that he's done with 3rd eye girl!..the man is creatively spent or just doesn't give a damn about making albums anymore.

So would you work with him?!

To asnwer the thread's title u don't seem to realize what a boost it is for a career to be a musician for such a high profile artist, it's just as if one of the top game players in your professional field offered u a gig: would u decline it? Being a protégé doesn't pay off because it's a solo career that u must lead afterwards but being a band member does and opens many doors! The music business is a hard one, and not a very profitable one, so when u get a gig u take it, it pays the rent while u're doing it and it opens doors for what's next. Yes, if I was a musician I would be totally crazy if i was offered to work with him, for the reasons I mentioned above but also because I'm a fan of his music, including the recent material, so obviously I'd love to be a part of that. The level of musical skills displayed by Prince and his collaborators is outstanding, whether u like the result artistically speaking or not. These girls are learning a great deal here, believe me.

A COMPREHENSIVE PRINCE DISCOGRAPHY (work in progress ^^): https://sites.google.com/...scography/
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #20 posted 05/17/13 12:12pm

Graycap23

I would from a learning standpoint.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #21 posted 05/17/13 5:54pm

cbarnes3121

Sassey said:

Some of us don't care what other artists are saying or which artist, writer, fan, etc. are kissing his ass. I never have and I never will kiss his ass. I don't care if he can play several instruments, sing, dance, and he's been in the entertainment business for over 35 years. I don't kiss ass.

yet u ask the question about young artist lol dont get mad when people dont side with u shit there are soo many young artist wishing prince would work with them and they make it known in interviews and on red carpets.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #22 posted 05/17/13 5:57pm

cbarnes3121

some of yall come on here talking about prince attitude and personals as if u work with him or just hang with him on the daily.i love prince music i could care less about about people that work with prince over 30 years ago comments about him everybody change everybody go through phases and prince seems to be happy and sharing the spotlight with lots of people not guaranteeing ayone millions or no purple dreams just a chance 2 shine

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #23 posted 05/17/13 6:47pm

S3rva1

The best boss I ever had knew his craft and expected nothing less than the best and it showed in his career and gave me something to aspire to.

~that's why I think young people would love to work with Prince (and old people too!). lol

Also, let me add; there are some industries where they hire "young people" in certain positions so they don't have to pay them as much as "old people" and yes, it requires you train them, but often young people are "hungry" and they will work 24/7 whereas "old people" will tell you to stick-it-where-the-sun-don't-shine. Ahhh, the realities of being a boss! LoL. Myself, I think a mix of young and old is the best and of course its important that everyone knows their place.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #24 posted 05/17/13 9:20pm

Superconductor

avatar

databank said:



funkyhead said:



“I don’t have time for old people,” he insisted. “I want to work with young people.”





Are you shittin' me!. He really actually said that!..be funny if Jesus finally had his 2nd coming, knocked on the doors of Paisley Park and P hit's him with THAT quote!!..but I digress!!




O.K. so the fuckwit with a heart of stone [oh sorry..IMHO!] wants to be feed of the talent of the young!. O.K. here's my spin..I think it's totally brilliant that he's working with younger people and the benefits , in theory should result in some great music. Many have longed for it and here it is, the LOL gigs sounds fab and, 'fro' aside he's looking happy & healthy.



However how can he be so dismissive of those who are apparently 'old', LG, W&L [that's a thread on its own!], Eric Leeds, Maceo, The Time and others within the MPLS scene. Then you have true ledgends, Dylan, Clapton, Bowie, Santana etc...is he really dismissing those.



So, my point is..why the fuck would any young artist want to work with him? The upside? = shit loads of publicity / CV building ..worked with a living ledgend blah, blah!. Experience or perfoming with larger audiences, etc. BUT creatively i.e. in the studio?..forget about it. You get a Prince record, he's the boss..unless he wants to get in your knickers!, he just doesn't write good songs [mostly] anymore, his production is lame, his instrumentaion choices are stuck in old school, lack of promotion / marketing tells its own story etc., the pay is apparently shit and he's a fucking tyrant!!


The creative evidence..listen to the actual songs that he's done with 3rd eye girl!..the man is creatively spent or just doesn't give a damn about making albums anymore.



So would you work with him?!



To asnwer the thread's title u don't seem to realize what a boost it is for a career to be a musician for such a high profile artist, it's just as if one of the top game players in your professional field offered u a gig: would u decline it? Being a protégé doesn't pay off because it's a solo career that u must lead afterwards but being a band member does and opens many doors! The music business is a hard one, and not a very profitable one, so when u get a gig u take it, it pays the rent while u're doing it and it opens doors for what's next. Yes, if I was a musician I would be totally crazy if i was offered to work with him, for the reasons I mentioned above but also because I'm a fan of his music, including the recent material, so obviously I'd love to be a part of that. The level of musical skills displayed by Prince and his collaborators is outstanding, whether u like the result artistically speaking or not. These girls are learning a great deal here, believe me.



:yeahthat:
...every night another symphony...
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #25 posted 05/18/13 12:39pm

nursev

Prince is one of the greatest artist to ever live so hell yeah if I played I'd work with his ass lol and just know that my time with him was limited lol We all know folks dont last around him, but hell he's Prince so why not lol

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #26 posted 05/18/13 10:31pm

mzspongebob

avatar

funkyhead said:

RodeoSchro said:

I'd let my 16-year-old daughter work with him. It would be an honor.

welcome to the org..Maytes mother!!!

yup still funny! lol

welp
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #27 posted 05/20/13 8:58am

funkyhead

razz

mzspongebob said:

funkyhead said:

welcome to the org..Maytes mother!!!

yup still funny! lol

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #28 posted 05/20/13 10:20am

RodeoSchro

Graycap23 said:

I would from a learning standpoint.



Exactly.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #29 posted 05/20/13 10:22am

RodeoSchro

mzspongebob said:

funkyhead said:

welcome to the org..Maytes mother!!!

yup still funny! lol


LMAO. I guess then I fit right in with Manuela, who's also posting on this thread!

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Page 1 of 2 12>
  New topic   Printable     (Log in to 'subscribe' to this topic)
« Previous topic  Next topic »
Forums > Prince: Music and More > and why would a 'young' Artist want to work with Prince..seriously would you work with him?