http://blogs.citypages.co..._toure.php

"Prince doesn't have verbal diarrhea, he has studio diarrhea...." OMG, this might just have to be my signy thing at the bottom for all my org posts

Very interesting...always thought he was more conservative then he let on to be. I'm not at all surprised that he preferred to bathe his women rather than have intercourse (seems much more sensual than sexual). I think the part about having to wait for him to call Mayte (or whoever) is complete bs.

geetee71 said:

Is it just more or is anyone else creeped out by the 'Prince's Rosebud' essay title?I know it's a Citizen Kane reference but it just sounds plain wrong to me

LMFAO

I think the tidbit about Prince preferring to bathe his women is complete bullshit. The women that Toure got this information from sound bitter women.

SuperSoulFighter said:

Okay, I haven't read the book, but...how reliable is any of this?

He sourced interviews from Alan and Eric Leeds, Wendy and a few other insiders, but the gossip stuff, is what made the book cringe-worthy and hard to believe. I would wait read the book at the library and save your money.

geetee71 said:

Is it just more or is anyone else creeped out by the 'Prince's Rosebud' essay title?I know it's a Citizen Kane reference but it just sounds plain wrong to me

E(__O__)3

SuperSoulFighter said:

Okay, I haven't read the book, but...how reliable is any of this?

These are all in the book... and just about every other book about Prince, at least the majority of them.

madhouseman said:

SuperSoulFighter said:

Okay, I haven't read the book, but...how reliable is any of this?

These are all in the book... and just about every other book about Prince, at least the majority of them.

ok so not very

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Prince's Rosebud, The King of Porn Chic, I'm Your Messiah

I read that before about Prince requiring Mayte to wait for his call,

11. You don't call Prince. He calls you... even when you're married to him.

OldFriends4Sale said:

I read that before about Prince requiring Mayte to wait for his call,

yea, old news! i'd like to hear about some saucy stuff

excited said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

I read that before about Prince requiring Mayte to wait for his call,

11. You don't call Prince. He calls you... even when you're married to him.

yea, old news! i'd like to hear about some saucy stuff

lol

I don't care for it,

unless it's in some connection to the creation of a song,

or something involving a tour or show,

something from the Purple Rain or Under the Cherry Moon filming

I think Questlove is pulling a Tony M and putting to much Black up in Prince's ideals

I think back then Prince really did want to be seen apart from the band as 'non-racial' or 'every racial' while everyone else around him were a rainbow of colors.

I don't think it's a coincindence that many of his frontman proteges looked like 'others'

9. He's a huge fan of the Sly and the Family Stone band formula.

OldFriends4Sale said:

excited said:

yea, old news! i'd like to hear about some saucy stuff

lol

I don't care for it,

unless it's in some connection to the creation of a song,

or something involving a tour or show,

something from the Purple Rain or Under the Cherry Moon filming

of course that would be interesting also!.. there must be so many juicy stories that haven't been shared.

excited said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

lol

I don't care for it,

unless it's in some connection to the creation of a song,

or something involving a tour or show,

something from the Purple Rain or Under the Cherry Moon filming

of course that would be interesting also!.. there must be so many juicy stories that haven't been shared.

definately a lot of stories and interesting situations

do u have a particular era that you would like to hear from?

OldFriends4Sale said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

I read that before about Prince requiring Mayte to wait for his call,

11. You don't call Prince. He calls you... even when you're married to him.

So did I

Bathing - private, sensuous, & intimate.

He said so in When 2 R In Love, (one of my favorite P songs of all time).

Come bathe with me

Let's drown each other in each other's emotions

Bathe with me

Let's cover each other with perfume and lotion

naffi said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

lol

I don't care for it,

unless it's in some connection to the creation of a song,

or something involving a tour or show,

something from the Purple Rain or Under the Cherry Moon filming

Would love for Prince to do a book like Jay Z did,

about what his songs mean and where they came from

That would be a collectors item

Take a little time each album era:album cuts, longversions, bsides, internet releases

and write notes, some songs might just have one word, some might have a paragraph

and do 3 books: For U-Graffiti Bridge, Diamonds & Pearls - Rave, One Night Alone - 20Ten

MadamGoodnight said:

Bathing - private, sensuous, & intimate.

He said so in When 2 R In Love, (one of my favorite P songs of all time).

Come bathe with me

Let's drown each other in each other's emotions

Bathe with me

Let's cover each other with perfume and lotion

If I were anything else, I'd be the water in your bath, darling.

And a bath is a lot warmer than Lake Minnetonka.

MadamGoodnight said:

Bathing - private, sensuous, & intimate.

He said so in When 2 R In Love, (one of my favorite P songs of all time).

Come bathe with me

Let's drown each other in each other's emotions

Bathe with me

Let's cover each other with perfume and lotion

he talks/sings a lot about bathing

those women who say what they did were probably used to wam bam think u mams

touch can be very arousing and orgasmic

for Prince (and others8-) ) a form of sensual control (S&Mish) hold off till another time

Come on.

U said u would wash my hair.

Shall we go swimming 1st?

U can't swim.

Wonderful.

Shall I wash u 1st or shall u wash me?

Wendy?

Yes Lisa

Is the water warm enough?

Yes Lisa

Shall we begin?

Yes Lisa

(they came up with that part though)

I only wanted 2 see U bathing in the purple rain

If I was anything else I'd be the water in your bath, darling

Fleurs dans votre bain, amour dans vos draps

Flowers in your bath, love in your sheets

U're kinda cute, U wanna take a bath?" (Do U wanna, do U wanna?) ... Bath?

Oh, I said - "Cool, but I'm leavin' my pants on (What U say?)
Cuz I'm kinda goin' with someone"
She said - "Sound like a real man 2 me

I took another bubble bath with my pants on
All the fighting stopped
Next time I'll do it sooner

If I was your girlfriend

Would U let me wash your hair?

And we don't have 2 make love 2 have an orgasm

OldFriends4Sale said:

I think Questlove is pulling a Tony M and putting to much Black up in Prince's ideals

I think back then Prince really did want to be seen apart from the band as 'non-racial' or 'every racial' while everyone else around him were a rainbow of colors.

I don't think it's a coincindence that many of his frontman proteges looked like 'others'

9. He's a huge fan of the Sly and the Family Stone band formula.

I'm reading the book. I didn't or don't get that feeling from Toure. Toure is pretty much saying in more words than one (not quoting the book, just giving my view of what I believe Toure is expressing) that Prince didn't want to be 'pigeon-holed' , as just another Black artist labeled as an 'r&b/funk/soul/blues' musician/artist, because to be fair, that is how many Black musicians/artists were and are typecast.

At that time, most Black musicians/artists were pigeon-holed into that category by their record label, even if some had talent in other forms of music.

Labeling him as such, (r&b), especially during that time period, would have automatically pigeon-holed his creative, music skills, and placed him as just another 'r&b' artist, who could or iwas expected to only have the capability or knowlege of performing that particular form of music. Apparently Prince knew being labeled as an 'r&b' artist would pigeon-hole his creative, music abilities, and was smart to reject being labeled to just one form of music.

I think he was genius to have a multiracial band, because by doing that , there would be less expectations of what form of music he could perform, as a musician who just happened to be Black. What's ironic is, (anyway you look at it), Prince still had to use the race of the bandmembers that he surrounded himself with early in his career, (some Revolution members) , as a tool to tear down the stereotypical assumptions that many within society still held, with their limited views of the music capabilities and creative skills of Black musicians/artists.

I say this because, often times, even in present day, many within society tend to have stereotyped views of many musicians/artists' capabilities, by associating them with specific forms of music, as well as their music skills/knowledge of it, based on their race. For example, , many Black musicians/artists are often associated or expected to perform or have knowledge of either

'R&b/funk/soul/blues/blues/reggae, and the like', while many White musicians/artists are often associated or expected to perform or have knowledge of either 'Pop/rock/classical,country music and the like'.

Wildboy said:

"Prince doesn't have verbal diarrhea, he has studio diarrhea...." OMG, this might just have to be my signy thing at the bottom for all my org posts

In the interests of accuracy you might consider updating your signy thingy at the bottom for all your org posts from 'Allen Leeds' to 'Alan Leeds'.

Mr. Leeds gets really angry when people spell his name wrong*.

* I made that up, but it could be true.

2elijah said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

I think Questlove is pulling a Tony M and putting to much Black up in Prince's ideals

I think back then Prince really did want to be seen apart from the band as 'non-racial' or 'every racial' while everyone else around him were a rainbow of colors.

I don't think it's a coincindence that many of his frontman proteges looked like 'others'

9. He's a huge fan of the Sly and the Family Stone band formula.

I'm reading the book. I didn't or don't get that feeling from Toure. Toure is pretty much saying in more words than one (not quoting the book, just giving my view of what I believe Toure is expressing) that Prince didn't want to be 'pigeon-holed' , as just another Black artist labeled as an 'r&b/funk/soul/blues' musician/artist, because to be fair, that is how many Black musicians/artists were and are typecast.

At that time, most Black musicians/artists were pigeon-holed into that category by their record label, even if some had talent in other forms of music.

Labeling him as such, (r&b), especially during that time period, would have automatically pigeon-holed his creative, music skills, and placed him as just another 'r&b' artist, who could or iwas expected to only have the capability or knowlege of performing that particular form of music. Apparently Prince knew being labeled as an 'r&b' artist would pigeon-hole his creative, music abilities, and was smart to reject being labeled to just one form of music.

I think he was genius to have a multiracial band, because by doing that , there would be less expectations of what form of music he could perform, as a musician who just happened to be Black. What's ironic is, (anyway you look at it), Prince still had to use the race of the bandmembers that he surrounded himself with early in his career, (some Revolution members) , as a tool to tear down the stereotypical assumptions that many within society still held, with their limited views of the music capabilities and creative skills of Black musicians/artists.

I say this because, often times, even in present day, many within society tend to have stereotyped views of many musicians/artists' capabilities, by associating them with specific forms of music, as well as their music skills/knowledge of it, based on their race. For example, , many Black musicians/artists are often associated or expected to perform or have knowledge of either

'R&b/funk/soul/blues/blues/reggae, and the like', while many White musicians/artists are often associated or expected to perform or have knowledge of either 'Pop/rock/classical,country music and the like'.

I'm going to pick up the book myself,

Yeah I read a few things from Questlove about that earlier period that didn't set well with how I know Prince was presenting himself and the band.

Prince definately had a diverse group of people in his band that came from some interesting musical families and scenes.

Dez Dickerson was straight out rock in roll/hard rock, Lisa had classical jazz and another form of music under her belt, Dr Fink was just everywhere Prince said he could play keyboards like play guitar ...

the bands in that earlier period also definately visually reflected Prince's vision not just the multiethnic part but even down to the moves and expressions (proteges too)

OldFriends4Sale said:

2elijah said:

I'm reading the book. I didn't or don't get that feeling from Toure. Toure is pretty much saying in more words than one (not quoting the book, just giving my view of what I believe Toure is expressing) that Prince didn't want to be 'pigeon-holed' , as just another Black artist labeled as an 'r&b/funk/soul/blues' musician/artist, because to be fair, that is how many Black musicians/artists were and are typecast.

At that time, most Black musicians/artists were pigeon-holed into that category by their record label, even if some had talent in other forms of music.

Labeling him as such, (r&b), especially during that time period, would have automatically pigeon-holed his creative, music skills, and placed him as just another 'r&b' artist, who could or iwas expected to only have the capability or knowlege of performing that particular form of music. Apparently Prince knew being labeled as an 'r&b' artist would pigeon-hole his creative, music abilities, and was smart to reject being labeled to just one form of music.

I think he was genius to have a multiracial band, because by doing that , there would be less expectations of what form of music he could perform, as a musician who just happened to be Black. What's ironic is, (anyway you look at it), Prince still had to use the race of the bandmembers that he surrounded himself with early in his career, (some Revolution members) , as a tool to tear down the stereotypical assumptions that many within society still held, with their limited views of the music capabilities and creative skills of Black musicians/artists.

I say this because, often times, even in present day, many within society tend to have stereotyped views of many musicians/artists' capabilities, by associating them with specific forms of music, as well as their music skills/knowledge of it, based on their race. For example, , many Black musicians/artists are often associated or expected to perform or have knowledge of either

'R&b/funk/soul/blues/blues/reggae, and the like', while many White musicians/artists are often associated or expected to perform or have knowledge of either 'Pop/rock/classical,country music and the like'.

I'm going to pick up the book myself,

Yeah I read a few things from Questlove about that earlier period that didn't set well with how I know Prince was presenting himself and the band.

Prince definately had a diverse group of people in his band that came from some interesting musical families and scenes.

Dez Dickerson was straight out rock in roll/hard rock, Lisa had classical jazz and another form of music under her belt, Dr Fink was just everywhere Prince said he could play keyboards like play guitar ...

the bands in that earlier period also definately visually reflected Prince's vision not just the multiethnic part but even down to the moves and expressions (proteges too)

It's an interesting read so far. He doesn't come across like he knows everything about Prince on a personal level, but moreso centers on making comparisons between religion vs sexual aspects of many of Prince's songs.

Well, after reading this bullcrap and rehashed quotes, my expectation for a really good analytical work just drowned. This is some of the most meaningless and mind-numbing stuff I've ever read.