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Thread started 03/10/03 2:09am

CalhounSq

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Okay, I finally watched SOTT...

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The Pros:

  • the drumline coming out during SOTT woot!

  • when he's in shadow & he leaps off the stages/platforms/whatever in slo mo, and his hair flops ever so slightly love

  • he looked GREAT the entire show. Love the skimpy jumpsuits, the jean jacket, the sweat soaked shirt by the time he got to Slow Love, the funny little hat during Forever in My Life. The best thing was his hair slowly uncurling throughout, getting slightly messy for The Cross horny horny horny I shouldn't be feeling those things during that song, should I? :O

    Also, I love that he had on that huge furry coat during IIWYGF!! lol There was something so... girly about it, I loved it...

  • Now I remember why so many people ask if he still dances, I'd forgotten how agile he was back in the day biggrin His energy was great & the dancing was comedy @ times, he even kinda laughed @ himself @ one point during Housequake. I don't know WHAT he was doing, lol, but it felt good to him & that tickles me. The fast head jerk in Hot Thing, & Slow Love where he licks the mic, steps back, kicks, sings a little then ends up on the floor enveloping the mic stand between his thighs headbang

  • the peach boots kill ANY boots he's worn ever, ever, EVER in life stab disbelief

  • The performances were really, REALLY good. I loved Slow Love, his kickass solo in ICNTTPOYM (so damn HOT!!), Hot Thing (come'erre baaaby, I wanna talk 2 ya...), The Cross...

    But the one that killed them all - Forever in My Life/It disbelief The shrieking, OH MY...

    I gotta tell you what you mean to meee!

    When he dropped the mic & walked the fuck away like, "DAMN!! I'm SO good, I can't stand myself!!" I laughed my ass off b/c it's SO true! THAT may be THE greatest Prince moment EVER in history. Lawd, I had to watch it 3 times. Unbelievable & damn perfect... nod



The Cons:

  • though they had nice chemistry, there was too much Cat. And her closeups during the first little sketch w/ Wally (where P is spying on them) were @ an odd angle - too "up the nose" & on the zit...

  • exactly how many sets of shoulder pads was my boy wearing in that leather coat?? :O DAYUM...

  • the fact that they filmed it @ the wrong speed is pretty disturbing, you'd think they could have recut it, added some angles, made it seem a little more on point. But the shots would have been very brief & I guess we'd have Rave all over again... sad

  • I managed to sit through Play in the Sunshine innocent I still don't like it neutral



Remaining Questions:

  • someone mentioned it was mostly lipsync'd - everything except U Got the Look & It's Gonna Be a Beautiful Night (in parts) was live IMO. Anyone have confirmation on this?

  • where oh where is the guitar he played during Forever in My Life? The one w/ the heart on it? I've never seen it resurface... confused

  • when is this DVD coming out?? mr.green

  • does an audio only version of this exist?? innocent


Thanks y'all for helping me rediscover this treasure, it's truly a great document to have. I just need a better copy!! razz
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Reply #1 posted 03/10/03 2:14am

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There is a audio-only recording with the music to the film. It's called Victory and it's really bad. Not a bootleg! No, no, no...

There is a brazilian DVD. It's pretty good and easy to find on Ebay
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Reply #2 posted 03/10/03 2:19am

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ChocolateInvasion said:

There is a audio-only recording with the music to the film. It's called Victory and it's really bad. Not a bootleg! No, no, no...

There is a brazilian DVD. It's pretty good and easy to find on Ebay


DAMN, no good audio only?? :X And all that talk about a SOTT DVD being released in the US was bogus?? evil CRAP!!!

sigh Thanks for the info ChocInv smile ... bheart
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Reply #3 posted 03/10/03 2:33am

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Your post makes me want to go watch SOTT again myself, right now!! biggrin

Like you I need a better copy of it too, and have my DVD pre-ordered through Amazon.com...however the release date keeps getting pushed back. evil

At the moment it says the DVD will be released on March 11, 2003 but I'm not holding my breath on that. confused
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Reply #4 posted 03/10/03 2:37am

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AmethystAngelMN said:

Your post makes me want to go watch SOTT again myself, right now!! biggrin

Like you I need a better copy of it too, and have my DVD pre-ordered through Amazon.com...however the release date keeps getting pushed back. evil

At the moment it says the DVD will be released on March 11, 2003 but I'm not holding my breath on that. confused


woot! woot! woot! No worries, I've waited what, 15 years to discover how great it is, LOL, I can wait a few weeks!! biggrin Thank you (again), AmethystAngelMN mr.green



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Reply #5 posted 03/10/03 2:48am

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  • someone mentioned it was mostly lipsync'd - everything except U Got the Look & It's Gonna Be a Beautiful Night (in parts) was live IMO. Anyone have confirmation on this?


  • does an audio only version of this exist?? innocent



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As far as I know the audio has been re-recorded/dubbed afterwards, because Prince was not happy with the original sound. Therefore sometimes it looks like lipsync...

A good friend of mine made a high quality Audio CD from the Video. Simply Marvelous...
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Reply #6 posted 03/10/03 3:12am

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pre-order PLACED... mr.green
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Reply #7 posted 03/10/03 3:13am

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joecoco said:[quoteAs far as I know the audio has been re-recorded/dubbed afterwards, because Prince was not happy with the original sound. Therefore sometimes it looks like lipsync...[/quote]

WOW, that Prince is picky...

A good friend of mine made a high quality Audio CD from the Video. Simply Marvelous...


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Reply #8 posted 03/10/03 4:26am

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There's quite a few over-dubs on it, actually - joe coco is right. But, the performances were live and definitely were NOT lip-synced!!! This is PRINCE we are talking about here, he don't need to do that!

The only reason that U Got The Look is sync, is coz it is the original promo video - I don't recall IGTBABN appearing to be synced. (which reminds me, I ought to go watch Prince bash those skins again - love that moment!)
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Reply #9 posted 03/10/03 4:42am

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CalhounSq said:


[*]I managed to sit through Play in the Sunshine innocent I still don't like it neutral


I don't like this song either. I always skip it when I listen to SOTT. lol
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Reply #10 posted 03/10/03 4:55am

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It ain't hyped, now is it? mr.green

Glad you rediscovered this one, now you will be like the rest of us lurking in "when is the DVD coming out" land.

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Reply #11 posted 03/10/03 4:57am

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LaVisHh said:

worship

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It ain't hyped, now is it? mr.green

Glad you rediscovered this one, now you will be like the rest of us lurking in "when is the DVD coming out" land.

wink


You all don't wanna get the brazilian DVD? I have it, and it's very nice.
The sound is OK, the picture not to dark and the menu is OK. OK, the biography is in Spanish and there is a very annoying electric sound effect in the menu.

But it is always better then a videotape!
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Reply #12 posted 03/10/03 4:57am

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a funny part is when shelia is singing out of key on IT...or was it 4ever in my life?




prince didnt have a problem telling her 2 shut up...
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Reply #13 posted 03/10/03 5:07am

LaVisHh

ChocolateInvasion said:

LaVisHh said:

worship

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It ain't hyped, now is it? mr.green

Glad you rediscovered this one, now you will be like the rest of us lurking in "when is the DVD coming out" land.

wink


You all don't wanna get the brazilian DVD? I have it, and it's very nice.
The sound is OK, the picture not to dark and the menu is OK. OK, the biography is in Spanish and there is a very annoying electric sound effect in the menu.

But it is always better then a videotape!


I have the Japanese SOTT laserdisc, so unless an officially released version comes out - I'll settle for the laserdisc. biggrin

But for those who don't, it appears unlikely that this will be re-released on DVD, unless Prince whips up another massive hit on the pop-charts that warrants flooding the market with Prince stuff to buy.

So for those people, this Brazilian DVD may be worth it (I've never seen it). My VHS copy is still flawless, but I've only played it a couple of times.
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Reply #14 posted 03/10/03 5:11am

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LaVisHh said:

ChocolateInvasion said:

LaVisHh said:

worship

biggrin

It ain't hyped, now is it? mr.green

Glad you rediscovered this one, now you will be like the rest of us lurking in "when is the DVD coming out" land.

wink


You all don't wanna get the brazilian DVD? I have it, and it's very nice.
The sound is OK, the picture not to dark and the menu is OK. OK, the biography is in Spanish and there is a very annoying electric sound effect in the menu.

But it is always better then a videotape!


I have the Japanese SOTT laserdisc, so unless an officially released version comes out - I'll settle for the laserdisc. biggrin

But for those who don't, it appears unlikely that this will be re-released on DVD, unless Prince whips up another massive hit on the pop-charts that warrants flooding the market with Prince stuff to buy.

So for those people, this Brazilian DVD may be worth it (I've never seen it). My VHS copy is still flawless, but I've only played it a couple of times.


The brazilian DVD is worth it only for the english subtitles to Little Red Corvette. They just don't make sense, they even get the title wrong. When he sing 'Little red Corvette' the subtitles say somethin like "Like Her Best for best"
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Reply #15 posted 03/10/03 5:29am

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ChocolateInvasion said:

The brazilian DVD is worth it only for the english subtitles to Little Red Corvette. They just don't make sense, they even get the title wrong. When he sing 'Little red Corvette' the subtitles say somethin like "Like Her Best for best"


Seems like a great thing to show at a Prince.org meet n greet, lol! I bet folks would be rolling on the floor, literally.

lol
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Reply #16 posted 03/10/03 5:31am

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LaVisHh said:

ChocolateInvasion said:

The brazilian DVD is worth it only for the english subtitles to Little Red Corvette. They just don't make sense, they even get the title wrong. When he sing 'Little red Corvette' the subtitles say somethin like "Like Her Best for best"


Seems like a great thing to show at a Prince.org meet n greet, lol! I bet folks would be rolling on the floor, literally.

lol


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Reply #17 posted 03/10/03 5:41am

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CalhounSq said:

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The Pros:

  • the drumline coming out during SOTT woot!

  • when he's in shadow & he leaps off the stages/platforms/whatever in slo mo, and his hair flops ever so slightly love

  • he looked GREAT the entire show. Love the skimpy jumpsuits, the jean jacket, the sweat soaked shirt by the time he got to Slow Love, the funny little hat during Forever in My Life. The best thing was his hair slowly uncurling throughout, getting slightly messy for The Cross horny horny horny I shouldn't be feeling those things during that song, should I? :O

    Also, I love that he had on that huge furry coat during IIWYGF!! lol There was something so... girly about it, I loved it...

  • Now I remember why so many people ask if he still dances, I'd forgotten how agile he was back in the day biggrin His energy was great & the dancing was comedy @ times, he even kinda laughed @ himself @ one point during Housequake. I don't know WHAT he was doing, lol, but it felt good to him & that tickles me. The fast head jerk in Hot Thing, & Slow Love where he licks the mic, steps back, kicks, sings a little then ends up on the floor enveloping the mic stand between his thighs headbang

  • the peach boots kill ANY boots he's worn ever, ever, EVER in life stab disbelief

  • The performances were really, REALLY good. I loved Slow Love, his kickass solo in ICNTTPOYM (so damn HOT!!), Hot Thing (come'erre baaaby, I wanna talk 2 ya...), The Cross...

    But the one that killed them all - Forever in My Life/It disbelief The shrieking, OH MY...

    I gotta tell you what you mean to meee!

    When he dropped the mic & walked the fuck away like, "DAMN!! I'm SO good, I can't stand myself!!" I laughed my ass off b/c it's SO true! THAT may be THE greatest Prince moment EVER in history. Lawd, I had to watch it 3 times. Unbelievable & damn perfect... nod



The Cons:

  • though they had nice chemistry, there was too much Cat. And her closeups during the first little sketch w/ Wally (where P is spying on them) were @ an odd angle - too "up the nose" & on the zit...

  • exactly how many sets of shoulder pads was my boy wearing in that leather coat?? :O DAYUM...

  • the fact that they filmed it @ the wrong speed is pretty disturbing, you'd think they could have recut it, added some angles, made it seem a little more on point. But the shots would have been very brief & I guess we'd have Rave all over again... sad

  • I managed to sit through Play in the Sunshine innocent I still don't like it neutral



Remaining Questions:

  • someone mentioned it was mostly lipsync'd - everything except U Got the Look & It's Gonna Be a Beautiful Night (in parts) was live IMO. Anyone have confirmation on this?

    where oh where is the guitar he played during Forever in My Life? The one w/ the heart on it? I've never seen it resurface... confused


  • when is this DVD coming out?? mr.green

  • does an audio only version of this exist?? innocent


Thanks y'all for helping me rediscover this treasure, it's truly a great document to have. I just need a better copy!! razz



The guitar on Forever in my life reappeared on Lovesexy Vol. 1 during "Glam Slam", but only used to dance around with Cat. No single note, too bad...!

btw. in 1988 i watched SOTT four times at cinema. Some other fans and i asked a technician to turn up the volume, and so he did! Man, the sound was pretty loud then. I think this is what the SOTT-Movie was made for -- cinemas with good sound systems! -
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Reply #18 posted 03/10/03 5:41am

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Mindflux said:

The only reason that U Got The Look is sync, is coz it is the original promo video...


yes...

I don't recall IGTBABN appearing to be synced.


I only say this b/c the main lyrics (little boy got the notion, get some love tonight, etc) & the hook seem too perfect. I think those parts are prerecorded w/ them singing over it live. But that's just my opinion, Lord knows I'm frequently wrong razz
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Reply #19 posted 03/10/03 5:59am

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ChocolateInvasion said:

LaVisHh said:

ChocolateInvasion said:

The brazilian DVD is worth it only for the english subtitles to Little Red Corvette. They just don't make sense, they even get the title wrong. When he sing 'Little red Corvette' the subtitles say somethin like "Like Her Best for best"


Seems like a great thing to show at a Prince.org meet n greet, lol! I bet folks would be rolling on the floor, literally.

lol


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You're to far away! mad
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LaVisHh said:

ChocolateInvasion said:

LaVisHh said:

ChocolateInvasion said:

The brazilian DVD is worth it only for the english subtitles to Little Red Corvette. They just don't make sense, they even get the title wrong. When he sing 'Little red Corvette' the subtitles say somethin like "Like Her Best for best"


Seems like a great thing to show at a Prince.org meet n greet, lol! I bet folks would be rolling on the floor, literally.

lol


My place, saturday night?


You're to far away! mad


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Reply #21 posted 03/10/03 6:01am

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CalhounSq said:

I only say this b/c the main lyrics (little boy got the notion, get some love tonight, etc) & the hook seem too perfect. I think those parts are prerecorded w/ them singing over it live. But that's just my opinion, Lord knows I'm frequently wrong razz


Don't worry your pretty little head, someone will correct you, if need be. razz
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LaVisHh said:

ChocolateInvasion said:

LaVisHh said:

ChocolateInvasion said:

The brazilian DVD is worth it only for the english subtitles to Little Red Corvette. They just don't make sense, they even get the title wrong. When he sing 'Little red Corvette' the subtitles say somethin like "Like Her Best for best"


Seems like a great thing to show at a Prince.org meet n greet, lol! I bet folks would be rolling on the floor, literally.

lol


My place, saturday night?


You're to far away! mad


OK, you can sleep-over! sigh
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Reply #23 posted 03/10/03 6:01am

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ChocolateInvasion said:

LaVisHh said:

ChocolateInvasion said:

LaVisHh said:

ChocolateInvasion said:

The brazilian DVD is worth it only for the english subtitles to Little Red Corvette. They just don't make sense, they even get the title wrong. When he sing 'Little red Corvette' the subtitles say somethin like "Like Her Best for best"


Seems like a great thing to show at a Prince.org meet n greet, lol! I bet folks would be rolling on the floor, literally.

lol


My place, saturday night?


You're to far away! mad


We can use msn/ICQ!


You gonna do a live broadcast with webcam? lol
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Reply #24 posted 03/10/03 6:02am

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xtraloveable said:

The guitar on Forever in my life reappeared on Lovesexy Vol. 1 during "Glam Slam", but only used to dance around with Cat. No single note, too bad...!


Ahhh, interesting biggrin I thought it was pretty clean, wonder what he did with it confused
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Reply #25 posted 03/10/03 6:20am

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LaVisHh said:

ChocolateInvasion said:

LaVisHh said:

ChocolateInvasion said:

LaVisHh said:

ChocolateInvasion said:

The brazilian DVD is worth it only for the english subtitles to Little Red Corvette. They just don't make sense, they even get the title wrong. When he sing 'Little red Corvette' the subtitles say somethin like "Like Her Best for best"


Seems like a great thing to show at a Prince.org meet n greet, lol! I bet folks would be rolling on the floor, literally.

lol


My place, saturday night?


You're to far away! mad


We can use msn/ICQ!


You gonna do a live broadcast with webcam? lol


Sure, once that orgwebcam's working
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Reply #26 posted 03/10/03 6:22am

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she likes it! she likes it!! woot!
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Reply #27 posted 03/10/03 7:24am

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CalhounSq said:

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[*]does an audio only version of this exist?? innocent[/list]




In '88 I made myself an audio tape of the film (played the VCR sound through the stereo and recorded/edited it -- a fun pre-CDR project.

About 8 months ago I made myself a fully-tracked audio CD of the film. ROCK. smile Will share -- and if you own the VHS of the film, I don't think there's anything legally wrong with a homemade CD of audio from the film. wink
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Reply #29 posted 03/10/03 9:58am

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Theres actually quite a few great quality Cd's of this concert. Beautiful Night is lifted atraight from the Video.
Best of all is Wonderboy. Its great quality, plus its 2 CD's, the second being the Paris 1987 show. This gives you a great comparison between the "Live" and overdubbed version. Result: they're not that different. Hes just that good! Most of the overdubs were done for purely technical reasons, not for performance problems.
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