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PrintableAnji said: rdhull said: teller said: I've been following this thread...I so totally disagree with the whole "over-rated" notion that I just couldn't post. Anji, was the title just meant to bait us?
"Eye No" is a song with confident conviction; the lyrics, the message, and the music all point toward joy in an introductory manner--it's an overture. It tells of the outcome before the story really begins. Alphabet St. is actually Act 1. Note the flow here: Alphabet street is early evening...he's out driving around lookin' for trouble. Not necessarily the right kind of fun. Then he scores: Glam Slam is reckless sex--note how it precedes AnnaStesia...kind of like his last big frivolous stay-out-late being promiscuous party before the hang-over the next morning. The lyrics help frame it this way. The fugue in between Glam Slam and AnnaStesia represents his restless sleep, before he wakes up and takes a serious look at his situation in AnnaStesia--which begins very much like a hang-over. WellBeyond captured what follows from there pretty well, IMO. I could go on, but suffice it to say that whole album is very, very inspired. Over-rated my ass... you guys are starting to make Lovesexy out as The Bible..  Just because I dont look at it as the bible doesn't mean that I don't respect it...that baton is getting loose "Climb in my fur." | |
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rdhull said: Anji said: rdhull said: teller said: I've been following this thread...I so totally disagree with the whole "over-rated" notion that I just couldn't post. Anji, was the title just meant to bait us?
"Eye No" is a song with confident conviction; the lyrics, the message, and the music all point toward joy in an introductory manner--it's an overture. It tells of the outcome before the story really begins. Alphabet St. is actually Act 1. Note the flow here: Alphabet street is early evening...he's out driving around lookin' for trouble. Not necessarily the right kind of fun. Then he scores: Glam Slam is reckless sex--note how it precedes AnnaStesia...kind of like his last big frivolous stay-out-late being promiscuous party before the hang-over the next morning. The lyrics help frame it this way. The fugue in between Glam Slam and AnnaStesia represents his restless sleep, before he wakes up and takes a serious look at his situation in AnnaStesia--which begins very much like a hang-over. WellBeyond captured what follows from there pretty well, IMO. I could go on, but suffice it to say that whole album is very, very inspired. Over-rated my ass... you guys are starting to make Lovesexy out as The Bible.. Just because I dont look at it as the bible doesn't mean that I don't respect it...that baton is getting loose | |
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While I still think it's a great album, I do think it's incredibly overrated. Looking back, Lovesexy was kind of the beginning of the end for Prince's creative peak. It all sounds great, the band is incredible, most of the songs are good (Dance On and Positivity aside), but it's the beginning of Prince over-producing himself (think Batman, D&P,  , Gold, Emancipation).
Interestingly, while I see his most spiritual album to date (in 1988), Lovesexy, as the first step down, I see his most spiritual album to date (in 2001), The Rainbow Children, to be a step up back up. They're kind of even points on the ladder. | |
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naturegirl said: Anji said: naturegirl said: Anji said: naturegirl, would you care to answer the question re: Lovesexy?
 i - have - in the past - i'm sure u won't agree with me - since u never seem to agree with what i say anyhow. 
that's ok though For your information, it's not in my interest to disagree with anyone unless it warrants discussion on the topic i.e. Lovesexy. If that's something you do not desire, I suggest you take any issues you may have with me, off this thread. *** no issue - just kidding with ya - i'm sure u remember that time before when i said u where analytical, and u came back and said "I DON'T AGREE"
ALL IN FUN ANJI - SORRY [This message was edited Tue Mar 11 19:35:12 PST 2003 by naturegirl] | |
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AaronFantastic said: While I still think it's a great album, I do think it's incredibly overrated. Looking back, Lovesexy was kind of the beginning of the end for Prince's creative peak. It all sounds great, the band is incredible, most of the songs are good (Dance On and Positivity aside), but it's the beginning of Prince over-producing himself (think Batman, D&P, Nice analogy Aaron, I have to agree but I thought you were a keen Gold era fan?, Gold, Emancipation).
Interestingly, while I see his most spiritual album to date (in 1988), Lovesexy, as the first step down, I see his most spiritual album to date (in 2001), The Rainbow Children, to be a step up back up. They're kind of even points on the ladder. | |
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Anji said: AaronFantastic said: While I still think it's a great album, I do think it's incredibly overrated. Looking back, Lovesexy was kind of the beginning of the end for Prince's creative peak. It all sounds great, the band is incredible, most of the songs are good (Dance On and Positivity aside), but it's the beginning of Prince over-producing himself (think Batman, D&P, Nice analogy Aaron, I have to agree but I thought you were a keen Gold era fan?, Gold, Emancipation).
Interestingly, while I see his most spiritual album to date (in 1988), Lovesexy, as the first step down, I see his most spiritual album to date (in 2001), The Rainbow Children, to be a step up back up. They're kind of even points on the ladder. I am. And I like the glossy sound of the Gold album too. That's an example of where he does that kind of well (a la Purple Rain). Still, I lump it with those others as far as production style, if only because it seemed to be the dominant method for the 90's. | |
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 4 Lovesexy. | |
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Lovesexy saved my dog! | |
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ConsciousContact said: Lovesexy saved my dog!
ROTFLMFAO! [This message was edited Wed Mar 12 6:44:53 PST 2003 by Anji] | |
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wellbeyond said: Haven't read the entire thread...yet...lol...(so far, tho, extremely cool reading)...but I'll just toss in my first initial thought and reaction (sorry if I'm repeating anyone else's thoughts here)...
The one main reason Lovesexy is as highly rated among fans (and more than a few critics): "Anna Stesia"... I don't say that simply because I "like" the song...but because that one song is the centerpiece of the album, the one song which almost explains both the rest of the songs' meanings and what was most likely Prince's mindset at the time...and it dunt hurt none that the song is simply great...When Prince sings that he needs to learn to love "the right way...the only way...", and has that inner conversation with himself about what it is he truly needs to do to escape that intense loneliness..."Maybe if I were closer to something/Closer to your higher self (I don't know)/Closer to heaven (maybe)/Closer to God? (Yeah...closer to God)"...That's not bullshit tossed out, that's completely fucking sincere on every level imagineable...and it's poetic, it's profound, it's heartfelt...it's direct, and it's unlike any spiritual proclaimation he's issued before...By the time "Lovesexy" comes on, it sounds so joyous and spirited, as if whatever "conversion" he went thru in "Anna Stesia" has brought him to this revelation of "lovesexy"... "Anna Stesia" makes you reconsider the other songs on the album, and causes you to realize that he's going thru "something" at the time of the album's creation...so I think that, along with the feel of it being a "concept album", it also gives many Prince fans a more intimate interaction with the artist and his art...Prince wasn't simply entertaining the masses with this one...he was sharing himself with us in a sense...and for hardcore fans, that makes it more "valuable" in their eyes...  --»You're my favourite moment, you're my Saturday... | |
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Moonbeam said: This thread has been an incredible read. I don't have much else to bring to the table, other than my undying devotion to this album.
"Lovesexy" became a favorite of mine around the age of 18, when I was struggling to both forge my own identity and cement my spirituality. "Lovesexy" was an album that brought me through. Hearing Prince's humble supplication in "Anna Stesia" to be taught how to love the right way brought me to my knees time and time again. The poignant meaning of "When 2 R in Love" and "I Wish U Heaven" taught me about love in an intimate and a spiritual realm. "Positivity" shed light on the darkness of the world and reminded me to hold on to my soul- this was just the beginning of the ride. Graduating high school and heading to the unknown world of college, "Lovesexy" helped me to establish who I was and what I felt. As a result, its message became my own battle cry. However, I have a great appreciation for the music as well. Through its wide range of emotion, "Lovesexy" explores the highs and lows of spirituality and its epic messages are present in the instrumentation as well. The ecstasy of the horns in "Eye No," the sexy, confident strut of "Alphabet Street," the closing string jubilation that closes "Glam Slam" which sounds as if it was leaking from an aperture from Heaven itself, the pomp and bombast of "Lovesexy", and the heightened sense of spirit and love that overwhelms "I Wish U Heaven" showcase Prince at his most delighted. His joy is so powerful and so infectious that he cannot help but share it with the world. Meanwhile, the solitary piano that opens and closes "Anna Stesia" bookends a dark piece whose urgent strings and fiery guitar effervesce with the broken but fighting lyrics of the song and the eerie percussion and writhing synths meandering around a sordid guitar entrench "Positivity" in a diabolical darkness that culminates in the genuinely chill-inducing percussion during the "Spooky and all that he crawls for" segment, only to be vanquished at the end, after which Prince cleanses the listener from the darkness with the soothing water and warm synth paads. Another aspect of the music of "Lovesexy" is that it is the LAST Prince record that comes from a source of youth. The psychodelic ecstasy of the light songs struts with a youthful vigor. In its hyperactivity, the album can't help but scream "Hundalasiliah!" at the top of its lungs. After this release, Prince moved into darker and more adult territory. Additionally, the sound is so full that it takes the ear several listens to grow accustomed to all of the layers present. Its messages live within me today and its music continues to surprise me to this day, its many facets showing their faces for the first time with each listen. It is an album overlooked by critics (I've never seen it given more than 3 stars), but cherished by those who are touched by it becuase of its vibrant color, joyous message and unique perspective. There never will be another "Lovesexy" and it stands alone as one of Prince's most singularly identifiable records. That was entirely wonderful Ian... not that I am surprised... 
Just beautiful... --»You're my favourite moment, you're my Saturday... | |
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I have loved reading this thread over the last few days... all the opinions have been awesome to read.
I certainly do not feel that Lovesexy is overrated... by any means. I truly adore this album... it just captured and had my heart immediately... thank you to all those who expressed their appreciation for this album so eloquently... I won't even attempt to add any more... you have all said it so well already... what a stunning tribute to an absolute gem of an album. --»You're my favourite moment, you're my Saturday... | |
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Diva said: I have loved reading this thread over the last few days... all the opinions have been awesome to read.
I should admit, that was my motive. I certainly do not feel that Lovesexy is overrated... by any means. I truly adore this album... it just captured and had my heart immediately... thank you to all those who expressed their appreciation for this album so eloquently... I won't even attempt to add any more... you have all said it so well already... what a stunning tribute to an absolute gem of an album. | |
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The best thing about this thread is that it has caused me to pull out my LoveSexy album, dust it off, and stick it in the car CD player.
 Fear is the mind-killer. | |
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teller said: The best thing about this thread is that it has caused me to pull out my LoveSexy album, dust it off, and stick it in the car CD player.
Me too..I've been playing this mug like nobodys business these last few days "Climb in my fur." | |
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Of course Lovesexy is overated. It's just TRC lite. You people need to rise up. Hundalasiliah my arse! | |
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BinaryJustin said: I think that a lot of Prince fans rate the record highly because:
01) The actual music. Its timeless - it didn't sound like anything else around in 1988 and it still doesn't. I always compare Lovesexy to drinking Tropicana and Diamonds & Pearls to drinking Fanta. I can't continue reading... This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes. | |
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Supernova said: BinaryJustin said: I think that a lot of Prince fans rate the record highly because:
01) The actual music. Its timeless - it didn't sound like anything else around in 1988 and it still doesn't. I always compare Lovesexy to drinking Tropicana and Diamonds & Pearls to drinking Fanta. I can't continue reading... I know lol..Fanta Orange/Grape is the bomb diggity. "Climb in my fur." | |
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ConsciousContact said: Hundalasiliah my arse! What exactly does that mean in the Queen's English? | |
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Anji said: ConsciousContact said: Hundalasiliah my arse! What exactly does that mean in the Queen's English? It means "Christ, that blokes got no strides on!" | |
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ConsciousContact said: Anji said: ConsciousContact said: Hundalasiliah my arse! What exactly does that mean in the Queen's English? It means "Christ, that blokes got no strides on!" I guess it was pretty embarrassing to purchase that album in the stores. I can't remember my experience of it, I must have blocked it out.  | |
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Anji said: ConsciousContact said: Anji said: ConsciousContact said: Hundalasiliah my arse! What exactly does that mean in the Queen's English? It means "Christ, that blokes got no strides on!" I guess it was pretty embarrassing to purchase that album in the stores. I can't remember my experience of it, I must have blocked it out. Considering I was quite a shy kid who was easily embarassed, buying Lovesexy in the shop didn't bother me. Prince gave me strength you see. | |
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ConsciousContact said: Anji said: ConsciousContact said: Anji said: ConsciousContact said: Hundalasiliah my arse! What exactly does that mean in the Queen's English? It means "Christ, that blokes got no strides on!" I guess it was pretty embarrassing to purchase that album in the stores. I can't remember my experience of it, I must have blocked it out. Considering I was quite a shy kid who was easily embarassed, buying Lovesexy in the shop didn't bother me. Prince gave me strength you see. | |
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Anji said: ConsciousContact said: Anji said: ConsciousContact said: Anji said: ConsciousContact said: Hundalasiliah my arse! What exactly does that mean in the Queen's English? It means "Christ, that blokes got no strides on!" I guess it was pretty embarrassing to purchase that album in the stores. I can't remember my experience of it, I must have blocked it out. Considering I was quite a shy kid who was easily embarassed, buying Lovesexy in the shop didn't bother me. Prince gave me strength you see.  | |
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rdhull said: Supernova said: BinaryJustin said: I think that a lot of Prince fans rate the record highly because:
01) The actual music. Its timeless - it didn't sound like anything else around in 1988 and it still doesn't. I always compare Lovesexy to drinking Tropicana and Diamonds & Pearls to drinking Fanta. I can't continue reading... I know lol..Fanta Orange/Grape is the bomb diggity. That comparison just seems cornball to me. Tropicana and/or Fanta to Lovesexy... This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes. | |
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though i haven't read anyone's posts i'm sure they all say something similar...
LoveSexy broke every precedent that SignOtheTymes brought. its a blend that is hard to grasp at one tyme yet there's something there that keeps pulling at your imagination where SOTT things that were groundbreaking because he put name to the cause or a face to the game if u will.. the other albums were a kalediscope he was merely letting us view the world in which he was creating (at that tyme) for himself and PR was just self-analysis that too many people were going through.. LS broke all that and say this world is a BIG bad mutha but thats OK we can dance on and remember positivity and so forth and so on if any album was ever a story then this was a fable that many cannot even begin to comprehend... up OUT... ~Live Free ... Be Wyld~AlwaysOnlyMakeBelieve - LiveUrLyfe... laissez le bon temps rouler...vivre sans être sauvage...हमेशा ही बना विश्वास ~Change and do so CONSTANTLY... | |
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ConsciousContact said: Anji said: ConsciousContact said: Anji said: ConsciousContact said: Anji said: ConsciousContact said: Hundalasiliah my arse! What exactly does that mean in the Queen's English? It means "Christ, that blokes got no strides on!" I guess it was pretty embarrassing to purchase that album in the stores. I can't remember my experience of it, I must have blocked it out. Considering I was quite a shy kid who was easily embarassed, buying Lovesexy in the shop didn't bother me. Prince gave me strength you see. This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes. | |
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Supernova said: rdhull said: Supernova said: BinaryJustin said: I think that a lot of Prince fans rate the record highly because:
01) The actual music. Its timeless - it didn't sound like anything else around in 1988 and it still doesn't. I always compare Lovesexy to drinking Tropicana and Diamonds & Pearls to drinking Fanta. I can't continue reading... I know lol..Fanta Orange/Grape is the bomb diggity. That comparison just seems cornball to me. Tropicana and/or Fanta to Lovesexy... oh thats why "Climb in my fur." | |
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When I said Prince was trippin' during the often told 'dark night of the soul', I meant he was under the influence of drugs. Why else would there be so many references in Lovesexy to God being a better drug, a better high?
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Anji said: When I said Prince was trippin' during the often told 'dark night of the soul', I meant he was under the influence of drugs. Why else would there be so many references in Lovesexy to God being a better drug, a better high?
Not to mention the opening line "...cause there's no smack in my brain..." I think Prince had a very frightening ecstasy trip, one that maybe even put the fear of death into him and from evaluating that experience he decided to dedicate his life to something much more meaningful than temporary highs. | |
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