Anji said:

I concur..folks got heart attacks and cried like babies with TRC whe he has..oh forget it. All people will say is that "yeah but Locvesexys message was more universal and not traditional orgnaized religious..." blah blah blah. Fuck dem ho's

I totally agree. Lovesexy is a good record. But it is WAY over-rated amoung the hardcore. Compared to the 5 albums (6 if u count the Black Album) that came before, it was and is a major let down. Eye no is dribble.

rdhull said:

Rd, I take it you are not religious and/or secluded from society. Perhaps two of the many significant reasons for why there are so many controversial viewpoints on The Rainbow Children amongst the hardcore, and why it's cult following will be that much more muted than Lovesexy's. Where's Spooky Electric?

Anji said:

Im religious as wqell as spiritual but Im not a hypocrite..I know I fuck aup and will. Please print the last verse stanza from Eye No...those lyrics are just as strong as TRC's message that is supposedly to stringent.

Pagey said:

Plus Eye No is taken from The Ball etc..he just changed the words to fit his silly newfound "experience". Im tellin you..Prince pulled one over on folks with Lovesexy b.s. But they dont hear me though.

rdhull said:

Rd, that's because you're not revered as Prince is, or as musically talented...

theSpark said:

That's about all I can say for Lovesexy. It was just a turning point. Like RD said, it was no Sign of the Times. Not a stellar album, but it was good.

Prince is a musical visionary and has sang about so much in my lifetime that has come to pass...

Lovesexy the album is not over-rated, but only few could get into the funk of it.
Here I am 24 years old and was 8 or 9 when I first heard the entire record for the first time, and it was the most awesome sounds I had ever heard, it caught my attention and helped me alot during my last years in elementary school...I til this day still listen to this record in its entirety...this record means alot to the few that gave it a chance, lyrically and musically...I have a cousin whose 13 and thinks it sux...but that just goes to show what society is breeding in our children, they can't understand the truth and M&M Killers...anyone hear about the Eminem look-a-like going around robbing banks?

Thats such the truth spoken...when ppl think prince just through this record together, its really Prince observing the life we live in and thinking about the future and really putting it to the funk!!!

This song and record is great and is my favorite prince album to date, because its not commercially viable and its really a reality check, I learned all about me at an early age and it helped shaped me and my way of writing, thinking and living!

PRINCE YOU DA MAN!!!

NPD313 said:

"the truth"

Anji




Every new Prince album comes under so much critisism, because it has the highs and affection of his catalog to compete with,dig?

You come off a high like "Parade", and he throws another monster at us, "Sign o' the Times"! If ANY album had pressure of having something to live UP to, it was "Lovesexy"! Purple Rain, Around the World,Parade, Sign...it was BANG! BANG!BANG!BANG!...that's a LOT of divergent and hot music in 3 years!Can you get to that?

Those 4 albums were HOT on creative and quality tracks,dig?(And we got the first taste of quality boots).

"Lovesexy" was different than the last 4 albums, it didn't really have a scorching song that screamed "hit single,baby!". You could argue it did'nt even have any true standout track,either. It was a VIBE, or overriding emotion that blankets "Lovesexy".

I suppose your enjoyment of "Lovesexy" was hip to wether you were open to an "experience", or had been conditioned to expect a top-40 type commercial album. Either you were receptive of the intent of "Lovesexy" or you weren't , but because it was intended as a blanket emotion put to music, rather than a tracked compilation for promotion and airplay.

How do you "rate" art inspired by the "feeling you get when you fall in love with the heavens above"? So I don't know if it's correct to call "Lovesexy" overrated. It is pure expression & vibe from the heart, dig my brother?
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Anji said:

Im a mama jamma

rdhull said:

I have always said Lovesexy is a good album bookended by two extremely average songs. Eye No and Positivity. Eye No is the worst opener of any Prince album

WildheartXXX said:

Rave Un2 The Joy Fantastic.

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I have always said Lovesexy is a good album bookended by two extremely average songs. Eye No and Positivity. Eye No is the worst opener of any Prince album[/quote]


Can you picture "Lovesexy" ending with "Anna Stesia" instead of "Positivity"? That would have been an exclaimation point on the album, the cherry on top, the top of the mountain...would have made you paused after it ended

"Positivity" seemed better suited as a non-album b-side to my ears!


I think "Thunder" is actually a less appealing intro than "Eye No"."Eye No" is worth it for the wah-wah guitar, horns and "buzyiness".I could argue that, "The Future",P Control","Newpower Soul",and the studio version "Rave un2 the Joy Fantastic" are weaker opening tracks, at least less entertaining ones.

can u get 2 that?

NPD313 said:

'Lovesexy shaped my life' syndrome. The message was very powerful for many and there's nothing wrong with that at all. In fact, that's a truly great thing. Respect for speaking up, NPD.

warning2all said:

In your opinion, the vibe was more important than the music? My stance is that that is one of the more significant reasons why Lovesexy has become Prince's most overrated record, musically speaking.

There's no denying the quality in the music. All I'm suggesting is that Lovesexy's ethic makes the music that much more powerful, rather than the other way round (as is the case with The Rainbow Children).

warning2all said:

That might be true.

Anji said:

Lovesexy isn't as profound as everyone makes out, an experience?! Oh Please,its an album packed full of great songs. If any album gets by on it's vibe it's The Rainbow Children. The whole there is greater than the sum of its parts which are quite frankly not that good. I don't think i'll ever look back at the end of Prince's career and pick songs from the The Rainbow Children on my best of compilation. Lovesexy though has three of four certified slices of brilliance however it's hardly the concept album people make it out to be.

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Lovesexy isn't as profound as everyone makes out, an experience?! Oh Please,its an album packed full of great songs. If any album gets by on it's vibe it's The Rainbow Children. The whole there is greater than the sum of its parts which are quite frankly not that good. I don't think i'll ever look back at the end of Prince's career and pick songs from the The Rainbow Children on my best of compilation. Lovesexy though has three of four certified slices of brilliance however it's hardly the concept album people make it out to be.[/quote]


YO YO YO!


Being one track instead of being individually tracked songs forces the whole to be digested as one "experience"; that was the intent.(unless you pressed stop)That was the result. I didn't mean an "experience" as some metaphysical religious awakening. Just an experience.I think you took it the other way.

I think a lot of people would argue wether "Lovesexy" is full of 'certified slices of brilliance'. Personally, I don't think there is one "great" song. I agree with whoever said the first and last songs are weak bookends. I cannot help but see "When2 r in Love" as just a cut-n-paste job from the "Black Album". "Glam Slam" has kind of a pedestrian melody to me. Wham,bam, thank you mam.I don't really care for the extended part of "Alphabet St." The "yeah,yeah,yeah" part copps the Beatles "She Loves You" to me. Not that it isn't a fun song or anything,dig? "Dance On" is more a jerky sound effect than a song to me.

Sounds like I have a problem with every song, eh? Maybe, but the overall good vibes and good intentions washes over the album as a whole, so I can ride with it, can you get to that?

I respect your opinion, though!Give yourself some tongue!

WildheartXXX said:

I agree, to a certain extent.

Lovesexy's music is great but it's the universal message and peripheral factors (The Black Album demise, the tour, the European factor, intellectual art etc) that carries it to the cult level of appreciation. At least, these are significant contributing factors to why it is overrated. With The Rainbow Children, it's very much more about the music, and not the message, that lends to its following.

This is not about whether The Rainbow Children is better or worse than Lovesexy. For what it's worth, I prefer Lovesexy too.


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NPD313 said:

wrong



It can still mean a lot if it's seen as overrated and not the be all to end all



and a Prince record ios gonna Saveee the world lol

anyone hear about the Eminem look-a-like going around robbing banks?



So? Just because he writes in the point of view of observer makes it genius etc? Pffft..you must be an easy lay


there is barely any funk on Lovesexy..maybe just barely with parts of Posivitity (some vocals) and bass in assorted songs and in the mix of the title track.


wronggg..how you gonna say its not commerically viable..he wrote these tnes in such a pop accessible manner it isn't even funny. Come on now..it is not intricate (the music) in general. Only a few tunes are trippy.



LOL..a reality check..okayyy. Prince sings about being in love with the heavens etc and talks about gang violence in 1988 and that was a reality check..you never heard or read about that in the media or other outlets...see this is the kind of thing that trips me out. hahaha Prince!

People do tend to get all carried away about the spirituality and "message" of Lovesexy. I'm not really for all that but I'd say its a mighty fine album that is in no way overated.

Under-rated perhaps, but to say overated would put you amongst those new Grafitti Bridge admirers who have suddenly crept out of the closet. Fuckin weirdo's...

dewmass said:

Are you okay?

Interesting that many UK folk got into Lovesexy mainly because of the music, and not the message; myself included. I still hold my premise however that the album has developed a cult status, and that's not solely due to the music.

Overrated musically? Perhaps. Developed an ardent following? Definitely.

"Anna Stesia" was a Great Track.after that everything else was Hit&Miss for me.this Album was at first hard for me to really dig&still to this day I think it would have made a Helluva EP."Alphabet Street" seemed cluttered&loaded with way to much going on&that is the basic problem i had with the album&Albums He has released for the most part since then.Over-Produced. some Instances He seemed to be going through the Motions&also just filling in things.put it like this:when I heard "Sticky Wicked" I pretty much fast forward this Album.with this Album Prince for me started a trend of me skipping tracks that has continued since.this Album seems better than it is because you got Batman&other accessible Over-Produced Albums that followed&had Prince seemingly Burned out,tired&playing catch-up for the first time In His Career.

It's a fine piece of work, but a couple of tracks bring it down (namely Glam Slam and I Wish U Heaven). Perhaps a bit overrated at least on the org...To the general public and critics, definitely underrated.

jtgillia said:

Ive never read a critic underrate it even at the time of it's release.

Question 1:

Assuming Prince did not have a spiritual revelation, and that did not inspire Lovesexy, why did he make such an overtly spiritual record? I understand he'd been using spiritual themes for some time but why be so explicit about them at that time? Surely, something was inspiring him beyond his normal level of output re: God.

Question 2:

Again, assuming Prince did not have a spiritual revelation, and that did not inspire Lovesexy, what would be the harm in believing the myth?

Anji said:

because it was his last trick up his sleeve ..in other words running out of ideas...same as The Black album being "dark and mean spirited" but not good enough for a full release so why not make an opposite with better material?

btw this has all been my opinion