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PrintableI think it was an underdog record, and thats part of the reason it became a cult fav among fans.
I like the album, especially the remixes. But Anastasia does nothing for me, the lyrics just sound too corny. Sonically it was a very fresh sounding album, kind of like the way Parade was. The tour for this album was fantastic, and one of my favorites! | |
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Moonbeam said: "Lovesexy" if anything is criminally underrated. Everyone says that. Yet another reason why it is so overrated amongst the hardcore. A belief system has been created... | |
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Tom said: I think it was an underdog record, and thats part of the reason it became a cult fav among fans. Exactly. And combine that with the way the message has touched the hardcore. It's almost the polar opposite to the reaction The Rainbow Children still endures; great music but really not so sure about the message. It doesn't welcome me. That alone is why it will never reach such cult status amongst the masses, even if it is far more praiseworthy than Lovesexy, musically. | |
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I think this albums musicaly tops what he made before and after (up until TRC)... He was at his peak in musical greatness... "Goodness will guide us when love is inside of us... The Force will be with you, always" | |
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Brendan said: Let me flip your argument on its ear and say that this is one of those records that needs a hardcore fan to put it in its proper perspective. I would argue that it’s not a bias or cult-like thing happening with “Lovesexy” at all (See “Under The Cherry Movie” for that), but rather that this is the type of creation that screams out for a deeper level of focus and familiarity than most critics or music lovers are likely willing to dedicate in the now.
Excellent point, Brendan, but it is exactly this level of intellectual critiquing that has given rise to Lovesexy's cult status. It's like, if you don't get it, you just don't understand. And those that do understand, create the cult following. Lovesexy's cult has grown from strength to strength over the years but the music is not the sole driving force.
All the great artists have works like “Lovesexy”; that is, works that are almost completely ignored or misunderstood in their time, but later are hailed as masterpieces. And certainly in most of these cases those closest to the art already knew the truth from the get go and were simply mocked for their knowledge due to their closeness to the subject. Decades from now the music historians will catch up. The message meant something deeply spiritual to Prince and the hardcore masses resonate with feelings for their own personal experiences of how that very same message has lifted them. Of course, it's embedded in layers of the music; Prince is a musician, afterall. However, his spirit, his calling is what has, and will always, take Lovesexy higher. As you said, the general public will not take time to listen or understand that message, hence it is a forgotten art because the music does not deliver. Like I said, I love this album and I am as guilty as the next man, for contributing to Lovesexy's cult status. | |
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Handclapsfingasnapz said: coulda sworn that sott is a lot mo' overrated than lovesexy...
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I think Lovesexy has more significance to European Prince fans as it was really the album that made him a superstar over here. Yeah it wasn't Purple Rain it was Lovesexy! I remember when it came out and it hit number one in the first week. This started a run of six consecutive number one albums. and was Prince's first UK No1 album and then the Dortmund show was broadcast, following that Prince's status in Europe went through the roof. I remember in school people were playing Lovesexy and The Black Album constantly. That album started something really special in Europe. Being a brit myself in many senses it was our Purple Rain and that's basically why it's seen so affectionately on this side of the pond. | |
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The non-release and underground policing of The Black Album has also greatly contributed to Lovesexy's cult status, amongst the hardcore masses. | |
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Around The World In A Day enjoys cult status amongs the hardcore because it followed Purple Rain and in much the same way, Lovesexy enjoys cult status having followed Sign O The Times (and The Black Album). They were undeniably bold artist statements. Classic Prince...
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WildheartXXX said: I think Lovesexy has more significance to European Prince fans as it was really the album that made him a superstar over here. Yeah it wasn't Purple Rain it was Lovesexy! I remember when it came out and it hit number one in the first week. This started a run of six consecutive number one albums. and was Prince's first UK No1 album and then the Dortmund show was broadcast, following that Prince's status in Europe went through the roof. I remember in school people were playing Lovesexy and The Black Album constantly. That album started something really special in Europe. Being a brit myself in many senses it was our Purple Rain and that's basically why it's seen so affectionately on this side of the pond. Great insight into the UK massive, Wild... | |
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Brendan said: It’s no great surprise that this album received far more praise in Europe where sexuality is generally much more evolved. I think that's why the European ONA Aftershows were so much more soulful...
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Anji said: The message meant something deeply spiritual to Prince Bullshit...you actually buy that hokeyness? That this was put out instead of Black album because black album was "evil"? lol. and the hardcore masses resonate with feelings for their own personal experiences of how that very same message has lifted them.
Which is more bullshit...not you stating what you just did, but, the people who are all up in Lovesexys' message that you are stating..the reason being that the overall message of Lovesexy has been in Princes music from Controversy through SOTT. And obvioulsy only a few could see and feel that message without it being pandered to the audience through the silly, easy-way-out message of the Lovesexy album. Its almost as if Prince had run out of steam after SOTT (which he did because Lovesexy material could have and probably was done in his sleep..the music is so "easy" so to speak) and said "here is my message that I have been trying to get through to y'all for years...in a nice tidy easy to digest output". And you now the message was pandered and not even heartfelt but gimmicky because come now..did he really live his life that way..and did the others taken with the Lovesexy project? Stop this nonsense lol. This is what borders on fanaticism and craziness (even worse than namecheck) because its some Kingdom Hall, organized religion, Jerry Fallwell boolshit with everyone professing to the "fake inauthentic" message of Lovesexy just like the religious and political right wing folks that Princes music is NOT about. Lovesexy is the work and message of hypocrisy and those who are enraptured with the message are partly hypocritical as well. Take it for what it is..some Zappa-esque music experiment and the last real Prince album. And thats why its so revered..because it slammed the 80's shut, just like Let It Bleed did to the 60's. Only a year early and on a ten year anniversary. .. [This message was edited Mon Mar 10 8:23:19 PST 2003 by rdhull] "Climb in my fur." | |
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rdhull said: Anji said: The message meant something deeply spiritual to Prince Bullsahit...you actually buy that hokeyness? That this was put out instead of Black album because black album was "evil"? lol. and the hardcore masses resonate with feelings for their own personal experiences of how that very same message has lifted them.
Which is more bullshit...not you stating what you just did, but, the people who are all up in Lovesexys' message that you are stating..the reason being that the overall message of Lovesexy has been in Princes music from Controversy through SOTT. And obvioulsy only a few could see and feel that message without it being pandered to the audience through the silly, easy-way-out message of the Lovesexy album. Its almost as if Prince had run out of steam after SOTT (which he did because Lovesexy material could have and probably was done in his sleep..the music is so "easy" so to speak) and said "here is my message that I have been trying to get through to y'all for years...in a nice tidy easy to digest output". And you now the message was pandered and not even heartfelt but gimmicky because come now..did he really live his life that way..and did you or the others taken with the Lovesexy project. Stop this nonsense. This is what borders on fanaticism and craziness (even worse than namecheck) because its soem Kingdom Hall, organized religion, Jerry Fallwell boolshit with everyone professing to the "fake inauthentic" message of Lovesexy just like the religious and political right wing folks that Princes music is NOT about. Lovesexy is the work and message of hypocrisy and those who are enraptured with the message are partly hypocritical as well. Take it fo r what it is..some Zappa-esque music experiment and the last real Prince album. And thats why its so revered..because it is slammed th e 80's shut, just like Let It Belled did to the 60's. Only a year ealy and on a ten year anniversary. rd...have i told u lately how much i wuv u? | |
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Rd, did you hear about Prince's demeanour when he invited Susan Rogers late one night to Paisley Park, just before The Black Album was about to drop? Prince was tripping.
I personally think he thought he experienced a spiritual relevation but who am I to say what caused it? I wasn't there. Yet another reason for Lovesexy's cult status, the myth has taken on a world of its own...  [This message was edited Mon Mar 10 8:24:40 PST 2003 by Anji] | |
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Handclapsfingasnapz said: rd...have i told u lately how much i wuv u?
did you ever knowe that you're my hero? 
btw thats even less hokey than the Lovesexy message "Climb in my fur." | |
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Handclapsfingasnapz said: rdhull said: Anji said: The message meant something deeply spiritual to Prince Bullsahit...you actually buy that hokeyness? That this was put out instead of Black album because black album was "evil"? lol. and the hardcore masses resonate with feelings for their own personal experiences of how that very same message has lifted them.
Which is more bullshit...not you stating what you just did, but, the people who are all up in Lovesexys' message that you are stating..the reason being that the overall message of Lovesexy has been in Princes music from Controversy through SOTT. And obvioulsy only a few could see and feel that message without it being pandered to the audience through the silly, easy-way-out message of the Lovesexy album. Its almost as if Prince had run out of steam after SOTT (which he did because Lovesexy material could have and probably was done in his sleep..the music is so "easy" so to speak) and said "here is my message that I have been trying to get through to y'all for years...in a nice tidy easy to digest output". And you now the message was pandered and not even heartfelt but gimmicky because come now..did he really live his life that way..and did you or the others taken with the Lovesexy project. Stop this nonsense. This is what borders on fanaticism and craziness (even worse than namecheck) because its soem Kingdom Hall, organized religion, Jerry Fallwell boolshit with everyone professing to the "fake inauthentic" message of Lovesexy just like the religious and political right wing folks that Princes music is NOT about. Lovesexy is the work and message of hypocrisy and those who are enraptured with the message are partly hypocritical as well. Take it fo r what it is..some Zappa-esque music experiment and the last real Prince album. And thats why its so revered..because it is slammed th e 80's shut, just like Let It Belled did to the 60's. Only a year ealy and on a ten year anniversary. rd...have i told u lately how much i wuv u? | |
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rdhull said: Handclapsfingasnapz said: rd...have i told u lately how much i wuv u?
did you ever knowe that you're my hero?
btw thats even less hokey than the Lovesexy message
don't buy the black album, i'm sorry...  | |
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rdhull said: Handclapsfingasnapz said: rd...have i told u lately how much i wuv u?
did you ever knowe that you're my hero?
btw thats even less hokey than the Lovesexy message Please tell me that Rd does not look like Bette Midler. | |
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Handclapsfingasnapz said: rdhull said: Anji said: The message meant something deeply spiritual to Prince Bullsahit...you actually buy that hokeyness? That this was put out instead of Black album because black album was "evil"? lol. and the hardcore masses resonate with feelings for their own personal experiences of how that very same message has lifted them.
Which is more bullshit...not you stating what you just did, but, the people who are all up in Lovesexys' message that you are stating..the reason being that the overall message of Lovesexy has been in Princes music from Controversy through SOTT. And obvioulsy only a few could see and feel that message without it being pandered to the audience through the silly, easy-way-out message of the Lovesexy album. Its almost as if Prince had run out of steam after SOTT (which he did because Lovesexy material could have and probably was done in his sleep..the music is so "easy" so to speak) and said "here is my message that I have been trying to get through to y'all for years...in a nice tidy easy to digest output". And you now the message was pandered and not even heartfelt but gimmicky because come now..did he really live his life that way..and did you or the others taken with the Lovesexy project. Stop this nonsense. This is what borders on fanaticism and craziness (even worse than namecheck) because its soem Kingdom Hall, organized religion, Jerry Fallwell boolshit with everyone professing to the "fake inauthentic" message of Lovesexy just like the religious and political right wing folks that Princes music is NOT about. Lovesexy is the work and message of hypocrisy and those who are enraptured with the message are partly hypocritical as well. Take it fo r what it is..some Zappa-esque music experiment and the last real Prince album. And thats why its so revered..because it is slammed th e 80's shut, just like Let It Belled did to the 60's. Only a year ealy and on a ten year anniversary. rd...have i told u lately how much i wuv u? I'll be honest that whole spiritual side of Lovesexy i never really acknowledged, i just loved the the ride it gave the listener. It's probably his most colorful album and in many ways it's a more energetic ATWIAD. The point about it slamming the 80's shut is spot on though. It was the end of an era for many who had followed Prince from an earlier period. Of course for many(in Europe) they were getting into Prince so they see it as their first love. It's my sisters favourite Prince album solely for that reason. It was the first Prince album she bought. It's so interesting how different his career trajectories were on both sides of the Atlantic. | |
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Anji said: Rd, did you hear about Prince's demeanour when he invited Susan Rogers late one night to Paisley Park, just before The Black Album was about to drop? Prince was tripping.
I personally think he thought he experienced a spiritual relevation but who am I to say what caused it? I wasn't there. Yet another reason for Lovesexy's cult status, the myth has taken on a world of its own...
Yes I heard about that laughable "dark night of the soul" lol. I mean come on! Even if he did trip out so what..he knew damn good and well that The Black Album was even more lackluster material than Lovesexy to put out after SOTT...nothing more nothing less. I dont care what the "myth" is. These are my beliefs and I have my reasons for believing them, regardless of whats been engrained by al the Uptown books, DMSRs, Turn It Ups etc. And if possible if ever given the chance I'd get Prince to admit to it. "Climb in my fur." | |
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Handclapsfingasnapz said: rdhull said: Handclapsfingasnapz said: rd...have i told u lately how much i wuv u?
did you ever knowe that you're my hero?
btw thats even less hokey than the Lovesexy message
don't buy the black album, i'm sorry... lol Prince was fun back in the eighties wasn't he? But in retrospect we can se all the tricks and b.s. The only thing that blocks the view is Lovesexy though lol "Climb in my fur." | |
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rdhull said: Anji said: Rd, did you hear about Prince's demeanour when he invited Susan Rogers late one night to Paisley Park, just before The Black Album was about to drop? Prince was tripping.
I personally think he thought he experienced a spiritual relevation but who am I to say what caused it? I wasn't there. Yet another reason for Lovesexy's cult status, the myth has taken on a world of its own...
And if possible if ever given the chance I'd get Prince to admit to it. | |
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WildheartXXX said: . It was the end of an era for many who had followed Prince from an earlier period. Of course for many(in Europe) they were getting into Prince so they see it as their first love.
Perfect! They had just tasted the purple riock and caught the vapors with SOTT..they became the new faithful in Princes Church Of The Poison Mind. Thats also what spanked life into Lovesexy and other things as well. It's my sisters favourite Prince album solely for that reason. It was the first Prince album she bought. It's so interesting how different his career trajectories were on both sides of the Atlantic.
Yes! Indeed!  He found Europe just in time and at the right time in some aspects. The SOTT time..the material was ripe and authentic and exqusite to throw on Europe to get a new congregation even though parade etc was noting to sneeze at...but things really didn't gel with that form many reasons ..like personal band strife. SOTT was the result fo purging everything and working through inspiration. Europe got lucky."Climb in my fur." | |
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Anji said: rdhull said: Anji said: Rd, did you hear about Prince's demeanour when he invited Susan Rogers late one night to Paisley Park, just before The Black Album was about to drop? Prince was tripping.
I personally think he thought he experienced a spiritual relevation but who am I to say what caused it? I wasn't there. Yet another reason for Lovesexy's cult status, the myth has taken on a world of its own...
And if possible if ever given the chance I'd get Prince to admit to it. Im not kidding lol. Dont ever let my ass interview him. he wont storm off mad either lol "Climb in my fur." | |
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rdhull said: Stop this nonsense lol. This is what borders on fanaticism and craziness because its some Kingdom Hall, organized religion, Jerry Fallwell boolshit with everyone professing to the "fake inauthentic" message of Lovesexy...
Rd, what you said just here is sacrilegious. We need to put you on Jerry Springer...
Lovesexy is the work and message of hypocrisy and those who are enraptured with the message are partly hypocritical as well. | |
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. [This message was edited Mon Mar 10 8:46:26 PST 2003 by rdhull] "Climb in my fur." | |
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rdhull said: Anji said: rdhull said: Stop this nonsense lol. This is what borders on fanaticism and craziness because its some Kingdom Hall, organized religion, Jerry Fallwell boolshit with everyone professing to the "fake inauthentic" message of Lovesexy...
Rd, what you said just here is sacrilegious. We need to put you on Jerry Springer...
Lovesexy is the work and message of hypocrisy and those who are enraptured with the message are partly hypocritical as well. LOL its not sacrilegious, it's the truth. Especially in th e context of ow I said he has always preached that Lovesexy message throughout his career. He just sugar coated it with Locvesexy fo those who couldn't handle it before.I don't care if it makes me unpopular . It needs to be said. . . [This message was edited Mon Mar 10 8:44:30 PST 2003 by rdhull] "Climb in my fur." | |
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btw Im glad you made this thread..I wanted to 6 months ago but didn't have sure-footing at the time.."Stop Acting Like Lovesexy Is So Great!" was going to be my ripped-off idea title "Climb in my fur." | |
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The Rainbow Children is Lovesexy pt II...
Save me Jesus, I've been a fool How could I forget that You are the only rule You are my God, I am Your child From now on, 4 You - I shall be wild, I shall be quick, I shall be strong I'll tell Your story No matter how long We're just a play in Your master plan Now my Lord I understand Love is God God is Love Girls and boys love God above | |
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