BartVanHemelen said:

unique said:

but some people don't want a sound close to the vinyl sound, but close to the sound recorded in the studio that appears on the master tapes

I'm sorry but that is nonsense. That sound in the studio gets played through very expensive speakers, and even then it is not the final stage, since then a record still needs to be mastered.

CDs get a bad rep because initial CD mastering simply wasn't that good, both due to the hardware used and the inexperience of the people doing the mastering. The medium was simply too young, and only after many years CD mastering became "grown up".

In the end we can only hope to approximate what an artist meant for us to hear when he put something on tape (or HD). Higher bitrates get us closer to that goal, but in reality it is an unobtainable one since each of us has a particular ear.

more shite from the idiot that doesn't have a clue

how the fuck do you know what some people want?

clearly you are fucking wrong as i want to hear music as close to the studio sound as possible, and not distorted by hissing and clicking, and rumble and mains and earth hum or other things that weren't there when the music was recorded

different people like different things. until you understand that simple thing you are going to have problems

Someone's not getting an Easter egg.

BartVanHemelen said:

electricberet said:

Prince did say at one point that he gets his masters back after 30 years. That would mean 1999 is his now. Perhaps it's an experiment to see how much revenue he can make through distribution on HDTracks?

Anyone who believes record companies are just going to hand over the rights to those recordings needs to wake up.

No, but they would release the rights as part of a deal that benefited both sides. Such as, Prince owns the masters but Warner has the exclusive distribution rights. Or something like that.

The PDF cover image that comes with the HDTracks release has a Warner Music logo on it. However, this release did not come with liner notes, unlike every other release I have bought from HDTracks.

electricberet said:

BartVanHemelen said:

Anyone who believes record companies are just going to hand over the rights to those recordings needs to wake up.

No, but they would release the rights as part of a deal that benefited both sides. Such as, Prince owns the masters but Warner has the exclusive distribution rights. Or something like that.

If you own the masters (AND the rigths) why grant WB exclusive distribution rights?

That must be an interesting sum of cash and/or deal. (kinda what Bowie did some time ago)

The PDF cover image that comes with the HDTracks release has a Warner Music logo on it. However, this release did not come with liner notes, unlike every other release I have bought from HDTracks.

So it was low budget.

And the distribution sucks:

- It's just for employees of USA, Inc. (at least they intend it like that)

- We need to pollute our computers with extra software to download that stuff

What problems do they solve with that?

I want to buy but I am forced to use the pirate bay.

See what the rentseekers want but what they get instead?

unique said:

more shite from the idiot that doesn't have a clue

Did you even read and try to comprehend what Bart wrote?

Judging from your 'response' you did not.

I may be ignorant on this stuff, but I think that the brain falls in love with the sound of the

first sound it fell in love with and anything different, the brain cancels out. That's my

experience anyway. I mean, most of Prince's stuff sounds fine and all you can do is ADD

stuff that the brain doesn't recognize and it has to process and that takes away from the

original experience you fell in love with and you'll want to go back to the one you fell in

love with. I just don't care too much about it. But...I would love good sounding recordings

of stuff like the original 100 MPH and such because my brain knows it want to love it, but

can't because of the sound quality.

(I think writing that made me sound crazy and I need a nap)

[Edited 3/31/13 0:16am]

8up said:

I mean, most of Prince's stuff sounds fine

Hmm. We must do a recount of clipping, low dynamic range stuff or stuff that doesn't even get to -0.1 dBFS?

But...I would love good sounding recordings

of stuff like the original 100 MPH and such because my brain knows it want to love it, but

can't because of the sound quality.

Why didn't you get the A.C 2CD reissue?

udo said:

unique said:

more shite from the idiot that doesn't have a clue

Did you even read and try to comprehend what Bart wrote?

Judging from your 'response' you did not.

of course i fucking did. i'm not one of the retards that just replies to things without reading or understanding, a a bit like your post

udo said:

But...I would love good sounding recordings

of stuff like the original 100 MPH and such because my brain knows it want to love it, but

can't because of the sound quality.

Why didn't you get the A.C 2CD reissue?

Uhmmm, what is this A.C 2 CD that you speak of? I am highly interested.

unique said:

udo said:

Did you even read and try to comprehend what Bart wrote?

Judging from your 'response' you did not.

of course i fucking did.

Great choice of word, I admire your vocabulary.

i'm not one of the retards that just replies to things without reading or understanding, a a bit like your post

Great explanation of why your comments should convince and why your comments do not line up with Bart's.

8up said:

udo said:

Why didn't you get the A.C 2CD reissue?

Uhmmm, what is this A.C 2 CD that you speak of? I am highly interested.

See http://prince.org/msg/5/386921

udo said:

8up said:

Uhmmm, what is this A.C 2 CD that you speak of? I am highly interested.

See http://prince.org/msg/5/386921.

I thought A.C. had to mean Andre so I looked it up on Amazon but did not

see 100 MPH. What am I missing? Thanks for your help. I also checked your link but

to no avail.

[Edited 3/31/13 1:02am]

Come on you guys, it's not that big of a deal to get worked up about. Just

don't start picking on me

8up said:

udo said:

See http://prince.org/msg/5/386921.

I thought A.C. had to mean Andre so I looked it up on Amazon but did not

see 100 MPH. What am I missing? Thanks for your help. I also checked your link but

to no avail.

See http://funkytowngrooves.c...ition/3348

Stop bickering about this. Who's ears are good enough to hear

Hi-Def audio anyways and what are you gonna play it through

to deliver it to those said ears? A remaster is fine. Man, you

guys can be anal.

8up said:

A remaster is fine. Man, you guys can be anal.

There is no remaster as we cannot (`legally`) download it due to the issues I mentioned.

Proper distribution, even in the internet age, is still oh so difficult.

udo said:

8up said:

Uhmmm, what is this A.C 2 CD that you speak of? I am highly interested.

See http://prince.org/msg/5/386921.

100 MPH is not on that album as it is Mazarati and not Andre Cymone.

A.C. is a great album though, well worth purchasing!

[Edited 3/31/13 3:12am]

funkaholic1972 said:

udo said:

See http://prince.org/msg/5/386921.

100 MPH is not on that album as it is Mazarati and not Andre Cymone.

A.C. is a great album though, well worth purchasing!

[Edited 3/31/13 3:12am]

A.C. CD was linked to as 8up was interested.

And yes, I might have been slightly asleep and confusing 100 MPH and The Dance Electric which is on A.C.

Over here 'summer time' is in play again since today. That might be a cause.

Thanks guys, yeah..I've heard the Maz version of 100 MPH and was

confused why AC would have it on his album unless Prince threw him

a bone because I've never had any of his stuff. Since you guys seem

to like his AC Deluxe album, I think I'll give it a listen.

About the hi-def stuff, wouldn't it have to be remastered to get to that point?

But no worries, I'll take whatever comes out like usual, it's just that everything

I've ever bought that's redone really didn't do much for me, I'm not too excited. The

Beatles did it, Paul McCartney did it, The Cure did it and it all ends up about the same

except when they put some extra stuff on there. Like I said, if I fell in love with a mono

version and then pay for a stereo version...my dumb ears really don't care. lol.

So anyone outside the States tried to buy this via a proxy? just curious.

unique said:

udo said:

Was my idea about your vocabulary wrong?

You just prove taht I am right.

And only trolls use your language.

So what was your main difference with Bart's thesis?

no, you are fucking wrong. end of story. you're a fucking asshole troll too. well done you've turned this thread to shit

End? This has just started. Your vocabulary has to grow a bit.

And the manure you write about is not coming from me.

Didn't you listen to the new Let's Go Crazy yet?

[Edited 3/31/13 4:59am]

Marrk said:

So anyone outside the States tried to buy this via a proxy? just curious.

I didn't as they require weird software to download their audio.

Maybe that software is an attempt to negate the proxy loophole?

udo said:

Marrk said:

So anyone outside the States tried to buy this via a proxy? just curious.

I didn't as they require weird software to download their audio.

Maybe that software is an attempt to negate the proxy loophole?

Thanks. It's never fucking easy with Prince is it?

Marrk said:

udo said:

I didn't as they require weird software to download their audio.

Maybe that software is an attempt to negate the proxy loophole?

Thanks. It's never fucking easy with Prince is it?

It's the industry's business model. They do not understand the market.

Just download the new version of Lets Go Crazy instead. (vimeo, from the offical photographer's account)

udo said:

Marrk said:

Thanks. It's never fucking easy with Prince is it?

It's the industry's business model. They do not understand the market.

Just download the new version of Lets Go Crazy instead. (vimeo, from the offical photographer's account)

Oh i wasn't blaming him particularly, though i suppose something was agreed by him and them.

As for LGC, Already done. I think i was probably one of the first for once.

[Edited 3/31/13 5:56am]

Any chance more of his albums will become available this way?

Personally, I had no idea this was happening at all. Was it discussed here before and I just missed it?

CandaceS said:

Downloaded the 24/192. Hopefully just the start.

Can't buy because not in the us . Can't find a torrent . Looking forward to listening to this.