What was the thing he made W&L pull?

RodeoSchro said:

What was the thing he made W&L pull?

recently from their facebook page (3rd party notice, don't know if Prince was begin it) but it was a rehearsal clip of Mountains for the 2003 Sheila E Family Jamm, the song they co-wrote...

LadyZsaZsa said:

SchlomoThaHomo said:

I'd never seen the Jessie interview they linked to before. Pretty cool stories about life with Prince. Interesting that he referred to it as "hell."

LoL...Who had the handcuffs?

lol Prince & Big Chick

OldFriends4Sale said:

RodeoSchro said:

What was the thing he made W&L pull?

recently from their facebook page (3rd party notice, don't know if Prince was begin it) but it was a rehearsal clip of Mountains for the 2003 Sheila E Family Jamm, the song they co-wrote...

Well, at least I got to see that live!

OldFriends4Sale said:

Some of Prince fans and org memebers act as though, Prince have to specifically please each one of them, and fullfill their needs. Clearly prince is not the same as he was in the 80's and if you don't like the change. Listen to someone else music, but to come HERE and complain like if Prince somehow cares about you half-assed opinion, seems bitter and senseless.

Prince to me is a musical genious, his flamboyant, spiritual, not giving a rats ass about you and what you think about his personality, is what I admire from him the most, because if he was to give in to demands of his complaining fans, he would of no longer been PRINCE, but a shadow of what other expect. Leave that for other artist, who don't know the world of music. Leave Prince to be whateva he wants to be. If he wants to be a fricken astranoaut on mars, let HIM BE!

Taken Eoin's cover of 777-9311 off of the internet!

purplegemini said:

Some of Prince fans and org memebers act as though, Prince have to specifically please each one of them, and fullfill their needs. Clearly prince is not the same as he was in the 80's and if you don't like the change. Listen to someone else music, but to come HERE and complain like if Prince somehow cares about you half-assed opinion, seems bitter and senseless.

Prince to me is a musical genious, his flamboyant, spiritual, not giving a rats ass about you and what you think about his personality, is what I admire from him the most, because if he was to give in to demands of his complaining fans, he would of no longer been PRINCE, but a shadow of what other expect. Leave that for other artist, who don't know the world of music. Leave Prince to be whateva he wants to be. If he wants to be a fricken astranoaut on mars, let HIM BE!

Prince doesn't own this site. This site is a place to come and talk about him and his music, the good and the bad, so what better place to do that than here. This isn't the Prince church to come and worship him.

As for him not giving a damn what anyone thinks of him or his personality, that's one of the things that I and a lot of other people admire about him also. So since that's one of the qualities we admire, it spills over into the way we are also. Just like Prince doesn't give a damn what we think of him, we don't give a damn what he thinks of us either. That shit works both ways. Prince doesn't own the copyright on being a bitch. We can be bitches too.

dJJ said:

AsylumUtopia said:

4. He treated The Time like shit.
At a time when he was still trying to establish himself. Anyone trying to establish themselves would not allow a band that they put together as a favour for a friend to upstage them. Not particularly nice behaviour, but show me a musician in a similar position, serious about establishing themselves, who doesn't react similarly and I'll show you a moron.

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Note:

I reply to your argument. And your argument is based on the assumption that Prince sabotaged some members of The Time, because he feared the competition.

I don't know if that was what Prince did.

----------------------------

You downplay that as "Not particularly nice behaviour?"

And you even defend it?

Your stand on this one shocks me.

You think (and act accordingly?) that if you want to make a career for youself, it's okay to sabotage your competition?

I think that is the lowest of the lowest of the lowest behaviour.

And it's exactly that kind of behaviour that causes most pain and misery in humanity.

Because if nobody would be Anti Social like that, these people would not be able to make a career.

So, the people who deserve it, would be in leading positions.

And the world would be a better place.

Unfortunately, because of this kind of anti social behaviour,

the good ones get crushed and will never be able to serve us by using their talents.

And those without a talent and no conscious will make a career, take up the leading positions and become the decision makers.

Unfortunately, these anti social people don't make the right decisions.

They lack consiciouss, intellect and talent to serve humanity rightly.

It's exactly this phenomenon that causes humanity to suffer.

The bad that screw the good people, just for their own gain.

I really don't understand how you can aprove this kind of anti social behaviour.

[Edited 3/19/13 14:38pm]

To selectively highlight portions of what I said which completely alters the meaning, and to suggest assumptions upon which my argument is based in order to create your own agenda for a rant, to accuse me of defending and promoting the interpretation you created, and to further suggest that I might act in such a manner, is odious, contemptible behaviour. So let's get a few things straight here.

I did not say or suggest that Prince sabotaged members of The Time - you said that, not me.

I did not say or suggest that Prince feared competition - again, you said that, not me.

I did not suggest, nor do I defend or promote the sabotage of competition for personal gain. I do not defend random imaginary musicians in their attempts to stifle their more popular imaginary support acts, nor do I behave in such a manner.

So you can take your suggestions, accusations and implications and shove them where they belong.

I was addressing the point made in the article which was quite specifically relating to Prince deciding how The Time should portray his creations.

As well as deliberately misinterpreting what I said for your own purposes, you are also either deliberately ignoring or unaware of the facts here, so loathe though I am to pander to the inability of others to read a perfectly straightforward sentence and take as read that which was not said but should be perfectly fucking obvious, I will carefully reiterate and expand upon what I said.

Which is that Prince, who found himself in the position of being upstaged by a band he created playing his music was justified in taking steps to ensure that his creative endeavours would be portrayed in the manner of his choosing. The band he created was becoming more popular playing what were essentially cover versions of his music and to allow such a situation to continue would have been commercial suicide. And as we are (or should be) well aware, Prince was at that time most definitely very interested in being as commercially successful as possible. As we are also (or should be) well aware, the members of The Time knew exactly what they were getting into. At no point did Prince give any indication that The Time were to be anything other than a vehicle for his music. They were not and were never intended to be 'his competition'. If they didn't like the arrangement they could've left at any point and used their own creativity to create a success of themselves without his involvement, after all, they have subsequently proven that they are quite capable of achieving whatever creative successes they desire without Prince.

This, as far as I am aware, is a unique situation. Unlikely though it is, anyone who finds themselves in the same or a similar position - and let's be perfectly clear here - anybody who creates a support act which by agreement is not created to play their own music but to play the music of the person that created said support act, and finds that said support act is proving more popular, is perfectly justified in revoking whatever access they have given to their creations, and in otherwise taking steps to ensure that they receive the credit for their creations. So when I said 'show me a musician in a similar position' that is exactly what I meant. Whether there will ever be another musician in a similar position is extremely doubtful. But if there were, they would be stupid in the extreme not to take appropriate steps to ensure that they, rather than the support act which they created, received the recognition for their creations.

You can pontificate all you like about anti-social behaviour and the ills of the world, but the fact remains that Prince was not sabotaging the competition, he was protecting that which the Time were becoming increasing popular for - creative works which belong entirely to him.

Hopefully, that's clear enough for you.

And while I didn't and don't defend the anti-social behaviour which people may engage in in order to attain their goals, to suggest that this is what Prince was doing with regard to The Time shows an astounding level of naivety and a complete disregard for or lack of knowledge of the facts.

But let's for a moment pander to your supposition. If we take that through the points you make, then here's what we come up with:

- The Time were Prince's competition

- Prince deliberately sabotaged them because they, and by extension their music (i.e. his music) was becoming more popular than him and his music

- By sabotaging The Time, Prince was engaging in anti-social behaviour

- If Prince had not engaged in this anti-social behaviour he would not have had a career

- The Time were crushed and were not able to serve us (?) by using their talents

- Prince has no talent and no concience, and was able to make his career because of this

- Pirnce lacks the talent, intelligence and concience to serve humanity rightly (?)

- Prince causes humanity to suffer

I think I'll leave it there because I've wasted as much time as I am willing to in responding, but in closing I'd just like to say that I've really enjoyed the past 25 years or so of Prince's intelligence-free and concience-free lack of talent during which he has caused humanity to suffer, all because he sabotaged and crushed the competition.

[Edited 3/20/13 7:22am]

AsylumUtopia said:

dJJ said:

------------------------

Note:

I reply to your argument. And your argument is based on the assumption that Prince sabotaged some members of The Time, because he feared the competition.

I don't know if that was what Prince did.

----------------------------

You downplay that as "Not particularly nice behaviour?"

And you even defend it?

Your stand on this one shocks me.

You think (and act accordingly?) that if you want to make a career for youself, it's okay to sabotage your competition?

I think that is the lowest of the lowest of the lowest behaviour.

And it's exactly that kind of behaviour that causes most pain and misery in humanity.

Because if nobody would be Anti Social like that, these people would not be able to make a career.

So, the people who deserve it, would be in leading positions.

And the world would be a better place.

Unfortunately, because of this kind of anti social behaviour,

the good ones get crushed and will never be able to serve us by using their talents.

And those without a talent and no conscious will make a career, take up the leading positions and become the decision makers.

Unfortunately, these anti social people don't make the right decisions.

They lack consiciouss, intellect and talent to serve humanity rightly.

It's exactly this phenomenon that causes humanity to suffer.

The bad that screw the good people, just for their own gain.

I really don't understand how you can aprove this kind of anti social behaviour.

[Edited 3/19/13 14:38pm]

To selectively highlight portions of what I said which completely alters the meaning, and to suggest assumptions upon which my argument is based in order to create your own agenda for a rant, to accuse me of defending and promoting the interpretation you created, and to further suggest that I might act in such a manner, is odious, contemptible behaviour. So let's get a few things straight here.

I did not say or suggest that Prince sabotaged members of The Time - you said that, not me.

I did not say or suggest that Prince feared competition - again, you said that, not me.

I did not suggest, nor do I defend or promote the sabotage of competition for personal gain. I do not defend random imaginary musicians in their attempts to stifle their more popular imaginary support acts, nor do I behave in such a manner.

So you can take your suggestions, accusations and implications and shove them where they belong.

I was addressing the point made in the article which was quite specifically relating to Prince deciding how The Time should portray his creations.

As well as deliberately misinterpreting what I said for your own purposes, you are also either deliberately ignoring or unaware of the facts here, so loathe though I am to pander to the inability of others to read a perfectly straightforward sentence and take as read that which was not said but should be perfectly fucking obvious, I will carefully reiterate and expand upon what I said.

Which is that Prince, who found himself in the position of being upstaged by a band he created playing his music was justified in taking steps to ensure that his creative endeavours would be portrayed in the manner of his choosing. The band he created was becoming more popular playing what were essentially cover versions of his music and to allow such a situation to continue would have been commercial suicide. And as we are (or should be) well aware, Prince was at that time most definitely very interested in being as commercially successful as possible. As we are also (or should be) well aware, the members of The Time knew exactly what they were getting into. At no point did Prince give any indication that The Time were to be anything other than a vehicle for his music. They were not and were never intended to be 'his competition'. If they didn't like the arrangement they could've left at any point and used their own creativity to create a success of themselves without his involvement, after all, they have subsequently proven that they are quite capable of achieving whatever creative successes they desire without Prince.

This, as far as I am aware, is a unique situation. Unlikely though it is, anyone who finds themselves in the same or a similar position - and let's be perfectly clear here - anybody who creates a support act which by agreement is not created to play their own music but to play the music of the person that created said support act, and finds that said support act is proving more popular, is perfectly justified in revoking whatever access they have given to their creations, and in otherwise taking steps to ensure that they receive the credit for their creations. So when I said 'show me a musician in a similar position' that is exactly what I meant. Whether there will ever be another musician in a similar position is extremely doubtful. But if there were, they would be stupid in the extreme not to take appropriate steps to ensure that they, rather than the support act which they created, received the recognition for their creations.

You can pontificate all you like about anti-social behaviour and the ills of the world, but the fact remains that Prince was not sabotaging the competition, he was protecting that which the Time were becoming increasing popular for - creative works which belong entirely to him.

Hopefully, that's clear enough for you.

And while I didn't and don't defend the anti-social behaviour which people may engage in in order to attain their goals, to suggest that this is what Prince was doing with regard to The Time shows an astounding level of naivety and a complete disregard for or lack of knowledge of the facts.

But let's for a moment pander to your supposition. If we take that through the points you make, then here's what we come up with:

- The Time were Prince's competition

- Prince deliberately sabotaged them because they, and by extension their music (i.e. his music) was becoming more popular than him and his music

- By sabotaging The Time, Prince was engaging in anti-social behaviour

- If Prince had not engaged in this anti-social behaviour he would not have had a career

- The Time were crushed and were not able to serve us (?) by using their talents

- Prince has no talent and no concience, and was able to make his career because of this

- Pirnce lacks the talent, intelligence and concience to serve humanity rightly (?)

- Prince causes humanity to suffer

I think I'll leave it there because I've wasted as much time as I am willing to in responding, but in closing I'd just like to say that I've really enjoyed the past 25 years or so of Prince's intelligence-free and concience-free lack of talent during which he has caused humanity to suffer, all because he sabotaged and crushed the competition.

[Edited 3/20/13 7:22am]

Thank you for the effort and time to write your reply.

It's a very clear and just reply.

I could try to make some valid points, about how you written your first post, but that would just be very childish. In general, I apreciate how you cleared up the way he handled The Times.

I do think you went overboard with trying to sell that I stated that Prince caused human suffering. You can put that one where it belongs, because you are too smart for a silly extrapolation like that.

Btw,

I do love Prince for being him. If he would be 'normal' as some people seem to wish, he would have ended up in some boring 9-5 job and we would have never been able to enoy the fruits of his talent and hard work.

So, even if he would be anti social, narcisitic, autistic or whatever label that is discussed, I am very thankfull that he is like that.

I mean, if that would not be the case, he would not be the man I do adore. Especially when he plays the guitar.

AsylumUtopia said:

dJJ said:

------------------------

Note:

I reply to your argument. And your argument is based on the assumption that Prince sabotaged some members of The Time, because he feared the competition.

I don't know if that was what Prince did.

----------------------------

You downplay that as "Not particularly nice behaviour?"

And you even defend it?

Your stand on this one shocks me.

You think (and act accordingly?) that if you want to make a career for youself, it's okay to sabotage your competition?

I think that is the lowest of the lowest of the lowest behaviour.

And it's exactly that kind of behaviour that causes most pain and misery in humanity.

Because if nobody would be Anti Social like that, these people would not be able to make a career.

So, the people who deserve it, would be in leading positions.

And the world would be a better place.

Unfortunately, because of this kind of anti social behaviour,

the good ones get crushed and will never be able to serve us by using their talents.

And those without a talent and no conscious will make a career, take up the leading positions and become the decision makers.

Unfortunately, these anti social people don't make the right decisions.

They lack consiciouss, intellect and talent to serve humanity rightly.

It's exactly this phenomenon that causes humanity to suffer.

The bad that screw the good people, just for their own gain.

I really don't understand how you can aprove this kind of anti social behaviour.

[Edited 3/19/13 14:38pm]

To selectively highlight portions of what I said which completely alters the meaning, and to suggest assumptions upon which my argument is based in order to create your own agenda for a rant, to accuse me of defending and promoting the interpretation you created, and to further suggest that I might act in such a manner, is odious, contemptible behaviour. So let's get a few things straight here.

I did not say or suggest that Prince sabotaged members of The Time - you said that, not me.

I did not say or suggest that Prince feared competition - again, you said that, not me.

I did not suggest, nor do I defend or promote the sabotage of competition for personal gain. I do not defend random imaginary musicians in their attempts to stifle their more popular imaginary support acts, nor do I behave in such a manner.

So you can take your suggestions, accusations and implications and shove them where they belong.

I was addressing the point made in the article which was quite specifically relating to Prince deciding how The Time should portray his creations.

As well as deliberately misinterpreting what I said for your own purposes, you are also either deliberately ignoring or unaware of the facts here, so loathe though I am to pander to the inability of others to read a perfectly straightforward sentence and take as read that which was not said but should be perfectly fucking obvious, I will carefully reiterate and expand upon what I said.

Which is that Prince, who found himself in the position of being upstaged by a band he created playing his music was justified in taking steps to ensure that his creative endeavours would be portrayed in the manner of his choosing. The band he created was becoming more popular playing what were essentially cover versions of his music and to allow such a situation to continue would have been commercial suicide. And as we are (or should be) well aware, Prince was at that time most definitely very interested in being as commercially successful as possible. As we are also (or should be) well aware, the members of The Time knew exactly what they were getting into. At no point did Prince give any indication that The Time were to be anything other than a vehicle for his music. They were not and were never intended to be 'his competition'. If they didn't like the arrangement they could've left at any point and used their own creativity to create a success of themselves without his involvement, after all, they have subsequently proven that they are quite capable of achieving whatever creative successes they desire without Prince.

This, as far as I am aware, is a unique situation. Unlikely though it is, anyone who finds themselves in the same or a similar position - and let's be perfectly clear here - anybody who creates a support act which by agreement is not created to play their own music but to play the music of the person that created said support act, and finds that said support act is proving more popular, is perfectly justified in revoking whatever access they have given to their creations, and in otherwise taking steps to ensure that they receive the credit for their creations. So when I said 'show me a musician in a similar position' that is exactly what I meant. Whether there will ever be another musician in a similar position is extremely doubtful. But if there were, they would be stupid in the extreme not to take appropriate steps to ensure that they, rather than the support act which they created, received the recognition for their creations.

You can pontificate all you like about anti-social behaviour and the ills of the world, but the fact remains that Prince was not sabotaging the competition, he was protecting that which the Time were becoming increasing popular for - creative works which belong entirely to him.

Hopefully, that's clear enough for you.

And while I didn't and don't defend the anti-social behaviour which people may engage in in order to attain their goals, to suggest that this is what Prince was doing with regard to The Time shows an astounding level of naivety and a complete disregard for or lack of knowledge of the facts.

But let's for a moment pander to your supposition. If we take that through the points you make, then here's what we come up with:

- The Time were Prince's competition

- Prince deliberately sabotaged them because they, and by extension their music (i.e. his music) was becoming more popular than him and his music

- By sabotaging The Time, Prince was engaging in anti-social behaviour

- If Prince had not engaged in this anti-social behaviour he would not have had a career

- The Time were crushed and were not able to serve us (?) by using their talents

- Prince has no talent and no concience, and was able to make his career because of this

- Pirnce lacks the talent, intelligence and concience to serve humanity rightly (?)

- Prince causes humanity to suffer

I think I'll leave it there because I've wasted as much time as I am willing to in responding, but in closing I'd just like to say that I've really enjoyed the past 25 years or so of Prince's intelligence-free and concience-free lack of talent during which he has caused humanity to suffer, all because he sabotaged and crushed the competition.

[Edited 3/20/13 7:22am]

thats a little book of reading; some interesting points.

It's very simple: Prince is a great genius of a musician but he's NOT a nice person.

I just read the article this morning. I should have known it would already be knee deep on this board.

A sprited defense by many on this board. Personally, I think Price can be a total dick sometimes, especially lately.

The guitar thing is indefensible.

However, he's a friggin genius and he has a right to do what he want's. We all know we gonna love him regardless.

Another great resource for those on FB is this page:

https://www.facebook.com/PRINCEsoloPrince

mano said:

I just read the article this morning. I should have known it would already be knee deep on this board.

A sprited defense by many on this board. Personally, I think Price can be a total dick sometimes, especially lately.

The guitar thing is indefensible.

However, he's a friggin genius and he has a right to do what he want's. We all know we gonna love him regardless.

Another great resource for those on FB is this page:

https://www.facebook.com/PRINCEsoloPrince

Does anybody know why on earth he would do something like that to a fellow guitarist?

I mean, if there is one person who can relate to how irreplacable his guitar is, it would be Prince himself, right?

I really can't understand why he did it.

And why he doesn't apologize for it.

Was he to ashamed and overwhelmed with guilt and in stead of admitting that, he pretends not to care?

Or would Prince be so coldhearted that he really didn't care about the effect of his action for someone who lend his guitar to Prince?

vainandy said:

purplegemini said:

Some of Prince fans and org memebers act as though, Prince have to specifically please each one of them, and fullfill their needs. Clearly prince is not the same as he was in the 80's and if you don't like the change. Listen to someone else music, but to come HERE and complain like if Prince somehow cares about you half-assed opinion, seems bitter and senseless.

Prince to me is a musical genious, his flamboyant, spiritual, not giving a rats ass about you and what you think about his personality, is what I admire from him the most, because if he was to give in to demands of his complaining fans, he would of no longer been PRINCE, but a shadow of what other expect. Leave that for other artist, who don't know the world of music. Leave Prince to be whateva he wants to be. If he wants to be a fricken astranoaut on mars, let HIM BE!

Prince doesn't own this site. This site is a place to come and talk about him and his music, the good and the bad, so what better place to do that than here. This isn't the Prince church to come and worship him.

As for him not giving a damn what anyone thinks of him or his personality, that's one of the things that I and a lot of other people admire about him also. So since that's one of the qualities we admire, it spills over into the way we are also. Just like Prince doesn't give a damn what we think of him, we don't give a damn what he thinks of us either. That shit works both ways. Prince doesn't own the copyright on being a bitch. We can be bitches too.

I really appreciate and dare i say love, the guy for the joy his music has given me but i stopped drinking the purple cool-aid a couple decades ago.

dJJ said:

RodeoSchro said:

vainandy said:

purplegemini said:

Some of Prince fans and org memebers act as though, Prince have to specifically please each one of them, and fullfill their needs. Clearly prince is not the same as he was in the 80's and if you don't like the change. Listen to someone else music, but to come HERE and complain like if Prince somehow cares about you half-assed opinion, seems bitter and senseless.

Prince to me is a musical genious, his flamboyant, spiritual, not giving a rats ass about you and what you think about his personality, is what I admire from him the most, because if he was to give in to demands of his complaining fans, he would of no longer been PRINCE, but a shadow of what other expect. Leave that for other artist, who don't know the world of music. Leave Prince to be whateva he wants to be. If he wants to be a fricken astranoaut on mars, let HIM BE!

Prince doesn't own this site. This site is a place to come and talk about him and his music, the good and the bad, so what better place to do that than here. This isn't the Prince church to come and worship him.

As for him not giving a damn what anyone thinks of him or his personality, that's one of the things that I and a lot of other people admire about him also. So since that's one of the qualities we admire, it spills over into the way we are also. Just like Prince doesn't give a damn what we think of him, we don't give a damn what he thinks of us either. That shit works both ways. Prince doesn't own the copyright on being a bitch. We can be bitches too.

I don't give a damn what Prince or his people think.

I haven’t read any complaints about him on this thread. I’ve only read people expressing their opinions about his “dickish” behavior. The Prince apologists know to not even try to dispute the truth so they choose to ignore it. When one of his fans replies with, “he’s always done what he wants and he probably always will..and he doesn’t care what people think about him...” all it confirms is that him and his fans do care. They probably wish we would just ignore his dickish behavior like they seem to do so well. If someone is not praising Prince it doesn’t mean they are drinking haterade or they can’t be trusted. If anything, Prince and his new 3^rd Eye Girl group are the ones who shouldn’t be trusted. When you start off deceiving people things will not turn out well.

[Edited 3/21/13 11:54am]

jeffreymiller said:

dJJ said:

------------------------

Note:

I reply to your argument. And your argument is based on the assumption that Prince sabotaged some members of The Time, because he feared the competition.

I don't know if that was what Prince did.

----------------------------

You downplay that as "Not particularly nice behaviour?"

And you even defend it?

Your stand on this one shocks me.

You think (and act accordingly?) that if you want to make a career for youself, it's okay to sabotage your competition?

I think that is the lowest of the lowest of the lowest behaviour.

And it's exactly that kind of behaviour that causes most pain and misery in humanity.

Because if nobody would be Anti Social like that, these people would not be able to make a career.

So, the people who deserve it, would be in leading positions.

And the world would be a better place.

Unfortunately, because of this kind of anti social behaviour,

the good ones get crushed and will never be able to serve us by using their talents.

And those without a talent and no conscious will make a career, take up the leading positions and become the decision makers.

Unfortunately, these anti social people don't make the right decisions.

They lack consiciouss, intellect and talent to serve humanity rightly.

It's exactly this phenomenon that causes humanity to suffer.

The bad that screw the good people, just for their own gain.

I really don't understand how you can aprove this kind of anti social behaviour.

[Edited 3/19/13 14:38pm]

It's classic Prince apologist behavior.

What is? I don't understand what you mean with your reply

dJJ said:

dJJ said:

Thank you for the effort and time to write your reply.

It's a very clear and just reply.

I could try to make some valid points, about how you written your first post, but that would just be very childish. In general, I apreciate how you cleared up the way he handled The Times.

I do think you went overboard with trying to sell that I stated that Prince caused human suffering. You can put that one where it belongs, because you are too smart for a silly extrapolation like that.

Btw,

I do love Prince for being him. If he would be 'normal' as some people seem to wish, he would have ended up in some boring 9-5 job and we would have never been able to enoy the fruits of his talent and hard work.

So, even if he would be anti social, narcisitic, autistic or whatever label that is discussed, I am very thankfull that he is like that.

I mean, if that would not be the case, he would not be the man I do adore. Especially when he plays the guitar.

Looking back on my reply to you I think it was fairly magnanimous of you to reply at all - I went a bit overboard, your accusations angered me and I bit back probably too harshly. If I was in the business of editing my responses I'd have toned it down a bit, but once I say something it stays said, the only edits I ever make are to correct spelling mistakes. If I go over the top I can always apologise for it later, which I do now.

You are of course right that I went overboard with the whole Prince causing human suffering bit, the last part of my post was wholly unnecessary, so consider it put where it belongs.

And I agree a 'normal' Prince would not be a good thing, and he's far from alone in being dickish - it often goes with the territory of talented prolific musicianship.

jeffreymiller said:

Oh, I was just agreeing with you, that only a Prince apologist could approve of that anti-social behavior.

You fail at reading.

I am about as far from a Prince apologist as one can get, but I guess you wouldn't know that. I would expound upon this but you're not worth the effort.

[Edited 3/22/13 13:27pm]

AsylumUtopia said:

xpertluva said:

luv4life said:

xpertluva said:

I listened to almost the whole Kevin Smith clip. I've always thought Prince was a little batty and a of course very arrogant, but I thought a lot of it was to keep up appearances. However, that clip made it sound as if there really is a "disconnect."

I think the disconnect is just like any other famous folks that have secluded themselves. He just believes everything is possible because with enough cash just about anything is.

Beyond just not being able to understand that some things aren't quite feasible (like a camel in a Minnesota in the winter at 3am), he seems to take himself way too seriously. He comes off like the type who'll be in on the joke until it's on him.

I also get the impression that if anyone expressed ideas outside of his world view, he wouldn't even give them a second thought. Of course, that's just what I perceive from the outside looking in. I just think there is no one more narrow-minded than people who believe they've figured it all out. The older I get, the more I realize how little I know about the world. And when you come to that realization, it's pretty humbling.