Drum machine on 20Ten don't sound like classic Linn
sounds like something made by Roger Linn.Did Prince use Adrenalinn drum machine for this project?
[Edited 3/21/13 11:53am]

thebanishedone said:

Drum machine on 20Ten don't sound like classic Linn sounds like something made by Roger Linn.Did Prince use Adrenalinn drum machine for this project? [Edited 3/21/13 11:53am]

The 20TEN ablum is all LM-1. It sounds exactly like it. He's known for running cheap Boss pedals between the back of the machine and the recorder, so maybe that's what is confusing you. I've owned both an LM-1 and a LinnDrum, (LM-2) and every drum machine sound on 20TEN is 100% for certain LM-1 with live cymbals played over the top to give a more human feel just like he's done from 1999 on. I promise.

steakfinger said:

thebanishedone said:

Drum machine on 20Ten don't sound like classic Linn sounds like something made by Roger Linn.Did Prince use Adrenalinn drum machine for this project? [Edited 3/21/13 11:53am]

The 20TEN ablum is all LM-1. It sounds exactly like it. He's known for running cheap Boss pedals between the back of the machine and the recorder, so maybe that's what is confusing you. I've owned both an LM-1 and a LinnDrum, (LM-2) and every drum machine sound on 20TEN is 100% for certain LM-1 with live cymbals played over the top to give a more human feel just like he's done from 1999 on. I promise.

How much did you pay for your LM-1, and why did you sell it? And do you think an LM-1 is obsolete in this day and age as far as an authentic LM-1 sound is concerned? ( I´m asking because a friend of mine who is a musician thinks so and says so but I don´t think so...but I´m just a layman).

I know the LM-1 is very hard to get these days but, if available, what would be a good and realistic price?

You mean the snares and the kicks don't necessarily sound like the snares and kicks on the old Prince records?

The LinnDrum sounds he's used back in the day were usually modified somehow. The snare sounds, especially, seem to have always been modified to be quite different from what the stock sounds on the machine itself were (he did that by using pitch shifters, EQ, compression / gates etc.). When he started using the LinnDrum sounds again he seems to have stuck with the sounds more as they are (except that he still puts the sidestick sound through a flanger, almost by rule).

It's been speculated that he doesn't really use the LM-1 anymore - it's a very old unit - and that he just uses samples from the machine these days. Could be that he just can't really be bothered to use effects on the individual elements if it's all done "in the box" (with drum machine software).

novabrkr said:

Could be that he just can't really be bothered to use effects on the individual elements if it's all done "in the box" (with drum machine software).

IMO this may go some way to explaining why his modern Linn drum sound often lacks the magic of his '80s use of the Linn. Taking the effort to channel various components of the Linn 'drumkit' through effects peddles/ units as he did in the '80s created a sound that was a subtle but imo important part of magic of his early-mid-80s classic sound, as heard on songs like She's Always In My Hair and Something In the Water.

Mind you, it's not uncommon for older musicians later in their careers to lack the patience to feel like going to the effort and detail they used to when recording, eg doing small but time-consuming tinkering to their sound, or doing 'pioneering' work with production/ recording techniques. I've heard statements to this effect in recent years from Brian May and Paul McCartney to name two. Both were amazed that their youthful selves possessed the patience and attention to detail to splice together tons of different tape sources onto a recording. Of course, the devil is often in the detail and paying attention to this often separates the classic from the mediocre.

thank u Sticky.I have linn samples in every tuning possible.To me Mplsound is more like Linn L1 but those were samples.not real L1. offtopic but is Love is a Battle Field by Pat Benetar l1 or linn drum?

i have Adrenalinn samples also and it resemble more 20ten sounds then the sctual machine.Linn can be used in modern music.I don't see it as a tool of past.btw This Friday Night by Katy Perry is linn drum