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Reply #30 posted 02/10/13 4:37am

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errant said:



savagedreams said:




errant said:




have we ever once heard, from him or any of his associates or biographers, of "Love" being one of his favorite acts or that he even has any knowledge of their existence or their music?





so just because he has never mentioned them that means he has never heard of them? riiiiight, brilliant logic there. do you go around announcing to people daily EVERY band you have ever heard of?





you'd think in 35 years of documentation of Prince's influences and favorite music, it might have been mentioned. or at least a live cover at some point, if he's supposedly putting out an entire album of covers dedicated to an act he's never mentioned or covered previously?



I would bet a bunch of them never spoken about. We find out about his influences little by little through the years more like it. On twitter I hope he shares more of the new artists he likes, stuff like Delilah is cool.
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Reply #31 posted 02/10/13 4:42am

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NuPwrSoul said:



errant said:




have we ever once heard, from him or any of his associates or biographers, of "Love" being one of his favorite acts or that he even has any knowledge of their existence or their music?





I know right? That's why this report is so odd. Plus the fact that, if my recollection serves me, he is not keen on releasing CDs anytime soon?



tabloid like, who knows!!?

Prince knows.
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Reply #32 posted 02/10/13 8:19am

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Exactly!

People don't realize that Love was the first multi-racial band and they appeared on American Bandstand in 66'

Sly knew about Arthur big time!

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Reply #33 posted 02/10/13 8:30am

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Exactly!

People don't realize that Love was the first multi-racial band and they appeared on American Bandstand in 66'

Sly knew about Arthur big time!

I believe you mean 'one' of the first among others, not the first.

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Reply #34 posted 02/10/13 10:07am

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RRA said:

Yes. Because we all know how very talkative and chatty Prince is.

Riiiiiight...

1 cover in 35 years maybe? just one? especially considering how many covers he's done in his shows the last 5 years?

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Reply #35 posted 02/10/13 12:07pm

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ok..

If Love wasn't the first multi-racial pop group on national TV, then who was?

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Reply #36 posted 02/10/13 12:14pm

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I don't see Prince doing a tribute album, but I'm intrigued by this direction in music. I loved the pop/rock/psychedelic sounds of Lotus (Boom etc...) which is why most of 20ten was a disappointment to me. Hmmm, R&R, Screwdriver...maybe he's fleshing out these sounds.

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Reply #37 posted 02/12/13 12:58pm

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errant said:



savagedreams said:




errant said:




have we ever once heard, from him or any of his associates or biographers, of "Love" being one of his favorite acts or that he even has any knowledge of their existence or their music?





so just because he has never mentioned them that means he has never heard of them? riiiiight, brilliant logic there. do you go around announcing to
people daily EVERY band you have ever heard of?




I don't recall him mentioning Pink Floyd either, but they seem to have inspired Colonised Mind, nor The Doors who appear to have influenced The Morning After...



you'd think in 35 years of documentation of Prince's influences and favorite music, it might have been mentioned. or at least a live cover at some point, if he's supposedly putting out an entire album of covers dedicated to an act he's never mentioned or covered previously?

"Had to get off the boat so I could walk on water..."
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Reply #38 posted 02/12/13 1:00pm

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...or perhaps, he's just discovered them recently and really likes them.

It happens!
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Reply #39 posted 02/12/13 1:24pm

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Not bad music at all, I still Like Sly better.

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Reply #40 posted 02/12/13 2:20pm

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thumbs up!

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Reply #41 posted 02/15/13 11:48am

marc45

brand new here, hi everyone....wanted to let prince fans (i'm one too) that don't know, that bryan maclean who was the guitarist to arthur lee in the original love line-up is the brother of singer-songwriter maria mckee who used to head the group lone justice in the mid-eighties..actually step-brother (same mother) though she doesn't like that term

maria is really proud of her brother and still misses him dearly after his early death..she and her mother have kept bryan's legacy alive and she is happy to hear about this

"delicious" she said in a tweet

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Reply #42 posted 02/15/13 3:21pm

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Maria Mckee... Now where do I know her from? Didn't she have a hit as a solo artist? I forgot what it was... confuse
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Reply #43 posted 02/15/13 3:42pm

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OK. I'm confused about the nature of this "tribute" album.

Liz Smith says he'll "cover" their songs, i.e. remake them, which to me is complete bullshit.

You can do a tribute by creating original songs that capture the spirit and recall the style of a group, and I'd prefer Prince do that for the following reasons:

1. If I want to hear Love's music, I'll go buy their albums. (Maybe today because i've never heard of them and now i'm intrigued.)

2. Prince just said in BILLBOARD that people should not put covers of other people's songs on albums (just perform them live) because he said that wasn't art. He criticized Maroon 5 for remaking Kiss.

Prince said ( Billboard Mag, Jan. 2013):

Why do we need to hear another cover of a song someone else did? Art is about building a new foundation, not just laying something on top of what's already there.

3. Covers are a form of creative bankruptcy to me. To just remake songs instead of inventing them. You can't rival the songs you're remaking?

I have no idea how anyone thinks this is cool. I'd love for Prince to capture that sound, sure, but in original music that is inspired by Love but doesn't just emulate them.

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Reply #44 posted 02/15/13 3:43pm

SynthiaRose

Very cool.

marc45 said:

brand new here, hi everyone....wanted to let prince fans (i'm one too) that don't know, that bryan maclean who was the guitarist to arthur lee in original love line-up is the brother of singer-songwriter maria mckee who used to head the group lone justice in the mid-eighties..actually step-brother (same mother) though she doesn't like that term

maria is really proud of her brother and still misses him dearly after his early death..she and her mother have kept bryan's legacy alive and she is happy to hear about this

"delicious" she said in a tweet

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Reply #45 posted 02/15/13 5:15pm

marc45

SynthiaRose said:

Very cool.

marc45 said:

brand new here, hi everyone....wanted to let prince fans (i'm one too) that don't know, that bryan maclean who was the guitarist to arthur lee in original love line-up is the brother of singer-songwriter maria mckee who used to head the group lone justice in the mid-eighties..actually step-brother (same mother) though she doesn't like that term

maria is really proud of her brother and still misses him dearly after his early death..she and her mother have kept bryan's legacy alive and she is happy to hear about this

"delicious" she said in a tweet

hi synthia,

yeah, i think it is very cool for maria and her mom...i'm wondering if there's been any contact between prince and them..i'm guessing not....also, can't help wondering if maria might appear on the album

a couple things on your criticisms

first of all, i'm a maria fan not really a love fan...like you i really didn't know much about them other than bryan is maria's brother...as a matter of fact my interest in maria only recently came back after a number of years away...when i did get back to her music this summer one way i began to re-connect was to go to her facebook fanpage and twitter page...those things weren't even around obviously even in recent times much less the mid-eighties when i fell for her (i'm 49)...when i got there i realized she definitely keeps posting about her brother so i did go to youtube and checked out love's music...to be honest i really haven't been able to get into it...just a little too much into the psychedelia world for me i suppose...i even struggle with the doors though they're considered more conventional i suppose and i do really like a lot of their songs and have done a lot of reading about morrison and the band

interestingly, one of my favorite maria/lone justice songs is "don't toss us away" which was written by bryan and which appeared on lj's first album...maria did a great job with it but patty loveless ended up making it a number one hit years later...patty has a pretty voice but her version was much too smooth for me compared to maria's edgier take..it's basically a country song for sure

and i do understand your take on covers...the only other specific artist music fan site i'm on is backstreets the famous bruce springsteen site, and i'm sure bruce fans would probably not take too kindly to a covers album, though he did exactly that a few years back with the seeger sessions album...an album of folk covers which i ended up liking, as well as the tour that followed without the e street band

i just wanted to see what prince fans were thinking and to try and support maria..she and her family, brother included, have been through a lot and they really haven't gotten the acclaim i think they deserve, so if prince can help that a bit i'd feel good for her..and i'm sure with prince being so prolific he'd be right onto the next batch of originals not long after

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Reply #46 posted 02/15/13 5:28pm

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Maria Mckee... Now where do I know her from? Didn't she have a hit as a solo artist? I forgot what it was... confuse

hey super,

maria was the lead singer/front-woman of lone justice a band from the mid-eighties..they were kind of described as "cowpunk"...a suped up (sorry, couldn't resist) kind of country-rock coming out of la at the time

the band fell apart amidst much hype and she went solo...her big hit you're referring to i assume is "show me heaven" which she wrote for the days of thunder soundtrack the old tom cruise/nicole kidman nascar movie..the weird thing about that is it never actually charted in the US but was number one in a lot of other countries...things just sort of worked out like that for maria, strange....and it just got weirder in that she developed a kind of dislike for the song because of its real pop ballad nature instead of her more hard-edged or rootsier stuff...she even refused to sing it for years but did finally get back to it eventually...at one point somebody at a show requested it during the time she was ignoring it and she simply said "you got the wrong girl"

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Reply #47 posted 02/15/13 5:55pm

marc45

working on a couple links for you guys

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Reply #48 posted 02/15/13 6:37pm

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keep the one offs coming. another? i'll check out the 60s when i'm done with ms. lewis stuck in them a few years ago sigh.

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Reply #49 posted 02/15/13 6:51pm

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When Prince starts doing tribute albums--I'm out.

"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato

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Reply #50 posted 02/16/13 1:14pm

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Show Me Heaven, yeah, now I remember.
Oh, btw, a covers album can be a way of recharging your creative batteries by going back to your roots. Doing the songs you love and that influenced you.
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Reply #51 posted 02/18/13 7:52pm

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errant said:

RRA said:

Yes. Because we all know how very talkative and chatty Prince is.

Riiiiiight...

1 cover in 35 years maybe? just one? especially considering how many covers he's done in his shows the last 5 years?

When the Lights Go Down isn't a cover?

Betcha by Golly Wow?

I Can't Make You Love Me?

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Reply #52 posted 02/18/13 8:04pm

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Cuddles said:


When the Lights Go Down isn't a cover?




No, it's not.
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Reply #53 posted 02/19/13 6:46pm

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marc45 said:

brand new here, hi everyone....wanted to let prince fans (i'm one too) that don't know, that bryan maclean who was the guitarist to arthur lee in original love line-up is the brother of singer-songwriter maria mckee who used to head the group lone justice in the mid-eighties..actually step-brother (same mother) though she doesn't like that term

maria is really proud of her brother and still misses him dearly after his early death..she and her mother have kept bryan's legacy alive and she is happy to hear about this

"delicious" she said in a tweet

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Liked Lone Justice okay, but that first Maria McKee album was almost perfect. I got the second one, only listened a few times--didn't hit me the way the first did. I didn't keep up after that, but... there was a period where I didn't listen to much else but that album. Man--might have to download that thing (I had it on cassette).

By the way, "step" is really just by marriage (as in, my dad married your mom, but we were both already here), as I understand it. If they share the same biological mother, "half" would probably be more accurate. All my siblings are half-siblings. My dad's kids were my mom's stepchildren, and my mom's kids were my dad's stepchildren, but they all were my halfsiblings.

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Reply #54 posted 02/19/13 6:48pm

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Cuddles said:

errant said:

1 cover in 35 years maybe? just one? especially considering how many covers he's done in his shows the last 5 years?

When the Lights Go Down isn't a cover?

Betcha by Golly Wow?

I Can't Make You Love Me?

I think errant meant that if the band meant anything to Prince, he would have done at least one cover of Love (in concert, if not in studio) during his career.

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Reply #55 posted 02/20/13 5:44am

marc45

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marc45 said:

brand new here, hi everyone....wanted to let prince fans (i'm one too) that don't know, that bryan maclean who was the guitarist to arthur lee in original love line-up is the brother of singer-songwriter maria mckee who used to head the group lone justice in the mid-eighties..actually step-brother (same mother) though she doesn't like that term

maria is really proud of her brother and still misses him dearly after his early death..she and her mother have kept bryan's legacy alive and she is happy to hear about this

"delicious" she said in a tweet

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Liked Lone Justice okay, but that first Maria McKee album was almost perfect. I got the second one, only listened a few times--didn't hit me the way the first did. I didn't keep up after that, but... there was a period where I didn't listen to much else but that album. Man--might have to download that thing (I had it on cassette).

By the way, "step" is really just by marriage (as in, my dad married your mom, but we were both already here), as I understand it. If they share the same biological mother, "half" would probably be more accurate. All my siblings are half-siblings. My dad's kids were my mom's stepchildren, and my mom's kids were my dad's stepchildren, but they all were my halfsiblings.

hey eddie,

yeah, she does not like half either...made that perfectly clear recently...only brother

i see a lot of fans here probably aren't too thrilled of the idea of prince doing something with love...tribute, covers, what have you, but as i said above i think maria and her mom are really happy about this

i was having trouble when i tried this earlier but i recently uploaded a version of "has he got a friend for me?" the richard thompson song from that first album to youtube...let me see if i can get that up here..if not, check it out, just type in the song title with maria's name and it's a live version done in a hotel's dining room in amsterdam in 1995 when she was filming a television special..i go by betpow on yt...i got it on a bootleg dvd this summer...the whole special is great...as a matter of fact the director bram who i exchanged e-mails with this summer went ahead and put up more of it, the part where she talks about the break-up of lone justice...it's fascinating if you're interested.....on yt it's called "maria mckee on the dramatic demise of her band lone justice"...maria put it up on her facebook page and it caused a bit of an uproar, which bram kind of blamed on me because i'm the one who got in touch with him about it years later

as a matter of fact all you have to do is go to my channel betpow on yt and "has he got a friend..?" is in my uploads and the lone justice thing with a great version of rattlesnake mama done on her hotel bed is at the top of my favorites and in my likes

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Reply #56 posted 02/20/13 6:33am

marc45

btw, what she's up to now is working with her husband on films and music...they have a film called "after the triumph of your birth" where she acts for the first time, he directs...and their next film is going to have a full soundtrack of her that will basically be her next album

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Reply #57 posted 02/20/13 7:39am

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TwiliteKid said:

Cuddles said:

When the Lights Go Down isn't a cover?

No, it's not.

really? I swear read it was.

If its not that's one of his best, I don't hear anyone metion it ever.

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