AMEN!! There is such a thing as age appropriate songs and song lyrics.

I dont.

Bu really how many songs does he have where he is actually saying something vulgar? Not many.

But ya know how he changed up Gotta Broken Heart Again form Dirty Mind on the Alladin Vegas dvd and from then on..and how he slow groove the ICNTTPOYM?

what if did that to Sister?

thereislonely1 said:

AMEN!! There is such a thing as age appropriate songs and song lyrics.

Yeah I was kinda like..whoah at first...but now he been doing it so long I dont care anymore.

On another thread, that started yesterday (so, do we really need another?) I said:

djThunderfunk said:

He's still nasty. He's just no longer being overt about it.

When he "stopped being nasty" (or at least stopped being obvious about it), many jumped to his defense saying "who wants to see a man his age act that way? It would be gross like a dirty old man." Some still jump to that when the subject comes up.

Well, I'm now about the age he was when he made that change, and I still want the "dirty". Hopefully, when I reach the age he is now I'll still feel the same way. Only young'uns think it's gross for someone in their 50s to be sexual. Real adults hope to be sexual as long as were still kickin'!

He's still nasty anyway, it's silly when he pretends he's not...

Nope! not trynna see or hear that shit

djThunderfunk said:

On another thread, that started yesterday (so, do we really need another?) I said:

djThunderfunk said:

He's still nasty. He's just no longer being overt about it.

When he "stopped being nasty" (or at least stopped being obvious about it), many jumped to his defense saying "who wants to see a man his age act that way? It would be gross like a dirty old man." Some still jump to that when the subject comes up.

Well, I'm now about the age he was when he made that change, and I still want the "dirty". Hopefully, when I reach the age he is now I'll still feel the same way. Only young'uns think it's gross for someone in their 50s to be sexual. Real adults hope to be sexual as long as were still kickin'!

He's still nasty anyway, it's silly when he pretends he's not...

I agree, dj. the bikini briefs can go, and even some of the more "profane language", however one of the things that made Prince appealing was my ability to identify with his struggle between good/bad, right/wrong, etc. Just cut loose and sing the lyrics to "Housequake" eighties style every now and then. When he's done with that, he can let go with "Do Me Baby", and then 'do me after school like some homework'... My husband won't mind a bit. Does anybody know bout the 'quake? BULLSHIT!!!

the nastier lyrics - the better..

the silly Jehovah Witness-censorship... is rather, yes: silly..

censorship is ruin those songs..

I want the nasty rude Prince back, for a lot of reasons....

the nasty Prince was so much better..

nursev said:

Nope! not trynna see or hear that shit

Exactly.

rdhull said:

But really how many songs does he have where he is actually saying something vulgar? Not many.

This. Im sure some of us have been saying this at various points since the late 90s.

Its one of those thing where the fans outrage about him not being "dirty" anymore is disproportionate to the actual amount of dirt.

My sister ...was 32 *guitar noodling* ...lovely *more guitar noodling* ...and *crowd slowly wave smartphones* ...Looooooooose *prolonged note*

[Edited 1/14/13 2:03am]

Yes. You are the only one.

No you are not the only one. To me that has something to do with maturity. It was cool back then, but I really don't need to hear some of that stuff now. He can be sexy and sensual - things like when he performed "Gingerbread Man", and "Little Red Corvette" (incl laying on the piano) - which is certainly something I also love about Prince, but he must not be rude (as in some of his very early songs).

Prince is at an all new level of sexiness where he doesn't have to be pervert or use foul language to be sexy. 3121 has Black Sweat, Te amo Corazon, The Word, Incensce and Candles, satisfied. All very sexual songs that use mild inuendo and no vulgar language. P has grown up and it's good that he has. But we all still wanna hear head and erotic city. But i guess we don't need to hear Sister or Pussy Control.

I prefere his 1980's naughtiness over his 1990's dirtiness,

A lot of Prince's 'dirtier' lyrics were much more subdued even when outright

covered in symbolism,

Tamborine would be considered a naughty song, but it's definately not obvious

If you really look back through those 1980's albums they weren't even close to being as 'religious' or 'dirty' as people tend to paint that period

Look at the Purple Rain album, outside of the subject of Darling Nikki (please don't think masturbate is a bad or dirty word) Purple Rain is hardly an album with a whole lot of sexual or foul language

Around the World in a Day, same thing, Tamborine is very much covered, and Tempation a song about sex, again 'fingers in the pool go splash we must' is very much poetic that raunchy or dirty

Parade, nothing there either outsided of spelling in very muted tones P U SS Y, is a non religious and definately not dirty album

What was dirty about Sign o the Times?

What was dirty about Lovesexy?

a few curse words here and there? maybe, but the 1980's stuff is hardly

riocoolnes said:

Prince is at an all new level of sexiness where he doesn't have to be pervert or use foul language to be sexy. 3121 has Black Sweat, Te amo Corazon, The Word, Incensce and Candles, satisfied. All very sexual songs that use mild inuendo and no vulgar language. P has grown up and it's good that he has. But we all still wanna hear head and erotic city. But i guess we don't need to hear Sister or Pussy Control.

Prince was doing that in the 1980's

Tamborine

New Position

I Wonder U

I still don't hear a bunch of vulgar or swear words in his 1980's releases, like you will hear in his 1990's

Sister Head Uptown Darling Nikki are story situations just like Bambi all would be have a warning of 'Adult Situations' if they were a tv movie

I agree though if I never hear Pussy Control again, I would survive

I surprised he hasn't just changed 'fuck' 2 'love' and performed Erotic City, because nothing outside of that is vulgar

Little Red Corvette is another sexual situation song that he still sings, Cream

Let's Work is 100% about sex with the cover of it being about Dancing (love dancing)

KeithyT said:

rdhull said:

But really how many songs does he have where he is actually saying something vulgar? Not many.

This. Im sure some of us have been saying this at various points since the late 90s.

Its one of those thing where the fans outrage about him not being "dirty" anymore is disproportionate to the actual amount of dirt.

My sister ...was 32 *guitar noodling* ...lovely *more guitar noodling* ...and *crowd slowly wave smartphones* ...Looooooooose *prolonged note*

I totally agree,

his onstage similuations added to a song may have made tame songs more sexual in people minds

prince sounds like joey from friends in his lyrics now

like "it's tight but i can fit u in" .. get it? get it? .. yes joey we get it .. now just go back to singing "head" cuz it was way cooler sounding than these stoopid 4th grade inuendos that go nowhere

the "mutherfuckers" of the gold era can go .. songs like "spirituality" and "the christ" can hit the garbage disposal too

just give me something sincere .. and if that involves lust or being horny than great .. the lyrics prince puts out about sex these days make me wonder if he can even get it up anymore

about the 80's / the nasty Prince:

Sugar Walls: http://en.wikipedia.org/w...ugar_Walls

"Sugar Walls" is the second single from Sheena Easton's 1984 album A Private Heaven that spent 9 weeks on the pop chart.

A top ten hit in the United States on both the pop (#9) and R&B (#3) charts, the song was composed by Prince, utilizing the pseudonym "Alexander Nevermind". The song failed to chart well in her native UK.

Wow:

The song title is presumed to refer to the "walls" of the vagina, which was perhaps sufficiently subtle by itself, but the general content was considered suggestive enough to qualify the song for the "Filthy Fifteen." Although Easton's video clip for "Sugar Walls" did not in itself feature any controversial content, some music-video broadcasters refused the video airplay because of the sexual imagery of the song's lyrics. Televangelist Jimmy Swaggart constantly criticized the song on his television program when it was first released.

Just in case you don't know already:

the filthy fifteen: http://en.wikipedia.org/w...en#Actions

Actions

As a method of combating this alleged problem, the PMRC suggested a voluntary move by the RIAA and the music industry to develop "guidelines and/or a rating system" similar to the MPAA film rating system. Additional suggestions from the PMRC that appeared in an article in the Washington Post included: printing warnings and lyrics on album covers, forcing record stores to put albums with explicit covers under the counters, pressuring television stations not to broadcast explicit songs or videos, "reassess[ing]" the contracts of musicians who performed violently or sexually in concert, and creating a panel to set industry standards. This article led to the removal of rock music and magazines from American stores including Wal-Mart, J. C. Penney, Sears and Fred Meyer.

The PMRC also released the "Filthy Fifteen", a list of the 15 songs they found most objectionable:

In the 1st 3 albums, no talk of "spirituality or religion"

No vulgar language or curse words till Dirty Mind and only on 2 songs the use of motherfucker(Sister) damn(Party Up)

very poetic creative talk of sex/sexual actions, nothing raunchy (till the 3rd album)

the subject of Dirty Mind is obvious but it's not an overal porno album or raunchy album. *when I first heard it back then, I was expecting a lot more, it was more tame that I expected, even the title track isn't something he couldn't sing today

I think some of the song titles are more erotic or suggestive that the actual lyrics

For You

In Love

Ever since I met U baby, I've been wantin' 2 lay U down
I really wanna play in your river

Soft And Wet

Hey lover, I've got a sugarcane
That I wanna lose in U, baby can U stand the pain?

And all I wanna hear is your sweet love sighs

And U're just as wet as the evening rain

Crazy You

Just As Long As We're Together

Baby

My Love Is Forever

So Blue

I'm Yours

I Wanna Be Your Lover

I wanna be the only one that makes U come... runnin'!

Why You Wanna Treat Me So Bad?

Sexy Dancer

When We're Dancing Close And Slow

With You

Bambi

Still Waiting

I Feel For You

It's Gonna Be Lonely

Dirty Mind

When You Were Mine

It's just like a train
U let all my friends come over and eat
And U were so strange
U didn't have the decency 2 change the sheets

Do It All Night

Gotta Broken Heart Again

Uptown

Head

And U said - "I'm just a virgin and I'm on my way 2 be wed
But U're such a hunk so full of spunk, I'll give U..."

Head till U're burnin' up

U wouldn't have stopped but ah...
I came on your wedding gown

Sister

I was only 16 but I guess that's no excuse
My sister was 32, lovely and loose
She don't wear no underwear
She said it only gets in her hair
And it's got a funny way of stoppin' the juice

My sister never made love 2 anyone else but me
She's the reason 4 my, uh, sexuality
She showed me where it's supposed 2 go
A blowjob doesn't mean blow
Incest is everything it's said 2 be

She only wanted 2 turn me out
She'd take a whip 2 me until I shout
Oh motherfucker, she's a motherfucker, can't U understand?

Partyup

We don't give a damn, we just wanna jam

thedance said:

about the 80's / the nasty Prince:

#	Artist	Song title	Lyrical content
1	Prince	"Darling Nikki"	Sex/Masturbation
2	Sheena Easton	"Sugar Walls"	Sex
3	Judas Priest	"Eat Me Alive"	Sex
4	Vanity	"Strap on Robbie Baby"	Sex
5	Mötley Crüe	"Bastard"	Violence
6	AC/DC	"Let Me Put My Love into You"	Sex
7	Twisted Sister	"We're Not Gonna Take It"	Violence
8	Madonna	"Dress You Up"	Sex
9	W.A.S.P.	"Animal (Fuck Like a Beast)"	Sex/Language
10	Def Leppard	"High 'n' Dry (Saturday Night)"	Drug and alcohol use
11	Mercyful Fate	"Into the Coven"	Occult
12	Black Sabbath	"Trashed"	Drug and alcohol use
13	Mary Jane Girls	"In My House"	Sex
14	Venom	"Possessed"	Occult
15	Cyndi Lauper	"She Bop"	Sex/Masturbation

the thing about Darling Nikki, is really overblown

the word masturbating was used (how he met Nikki)

the rest of the songs suggests a S&M scene (nothing new to Prince songs)

But that is never brought up in this case, it seems to be just about that word

I could care less if he gets nasty again because it's not his lyrics that's suffering these days, it's the sound of his music. But there's no such thing as being too old to be nasty. Hell, that's what makes old people seem dull and stuffy when they get too saddity to be nasty. I know I'll be a dirty old man till I'm a dead old man. Filthy as hell! Just look at "The Golden Girls", those old ladies would have been dull as hell if they didn't sit around talking nasty shit.

vainandy said:

I could care less if he gets nasty again because it's not his lyrics that's suffering these days, it's the sound of his music. But there's no such thing as being too old to be nasty. Hell, that's what makes old people seem dull and stuffy when they get too saddity to be nasty. I know I'll be a dirty old man till I'm a dead old man. Filthy as hell! Just look at "The Golden Girls", those old ladies would have been dull as hell if they didn't sit around talking nasty shit.

^^^

right, I like to see people as they get older remain the same in all the good healthy ways, just get better at it, learn play parties, celebrate dress up and step out on town, flirt dance etc

OldFriends4Sale said:

vainandy said:

I could care less if he gets nasty again because it's not his lyrics that's suffering these days, it's the sound of his music. But there's no such thing as being too old to be nasty. Hell, that's what makes old people seem dull and stuffy when they get too saddity to be nasty. I know I'll be a dirty old man till I'm a dead old man. Filthy as hell! Just look at "The Golden Girls", those old ladies would have been dull as hell if they didn't sit around talking nasty shit.

^^^

right, I like to see people as they get older remain the same in all the good healthy ways, just get better at it, learn play parties, celebrate dress up and step out on town, flirt dance etc

That's right. And if old people didn't remain nasty, they would have never invented Viagara.

again, these 2 albums not filled with curse words

and 99% of the 'dirtier' lyrics are more artistic and creatively covered than anything

outside of the ending of Do Me Baby Lady Cab Driver & International Lovers simulated sex, which is pulled off very well, not the assumed 'nastiness'

Controversy

Sexuality

Do Me, Baby

Oh, U ain't leaving me no choice
OK, what are U gonna do?
U just gonna sit there and watch?
Alright, ooh, mm
Are U sure U don't wanna close your eyes?

Well, isn't it supposed 2 take a long time?

I'm not gonna stop until the war is over
Ooh! Help me! Oh! Ooh!
There... OK... OK
Uh... oh!
I'm so cold
Just hold me, oh

Private Joy

Ronnie, Talk To Russia

Let's Work

Annie Christian

Jack U Off

If U're tired of the masturbator
Little girl, we can go on a date, uh
And if U like, I'll jack U off

1999

Little Red Corvette

Girl, U got an ass like I never seen

Delirious

Let's Pretend We're Married

I wanna fuck U so bad it hurts, it hurts, it hurts
Ooh, I wanna, I wanna, I wanna, I wanna, I wanna, I wanna fuck U
Yeah, I wanna, I wanna, ooh, I wanna fuck U
Look here martian, I'm not sayin' this just 2 be nasty
I sincerely wanna fuck the taste outta your mouth
Can U relate?

Whatever U heard about me is true
I change the rules and do what I wanna do
I'm in love with God, He's the only way
Cuz U and I know we gotta die some day
If U think I'm crazy, U're probably right
But I'm gonna have fun every motherfuckin' night
If U like 2 fight, U're a double-drag fool
I'm goin' 2 another life, how 'bout U?

DMSR

Automatic

I'll go down on U all night long
It's automatic (U will?) (Yes I will, babe)

I'm going 2 have 2 torture U now

Something In the Water (Does Not Compute)

Free

Lady Cab Driver

This is 4 the cab U have 2 drive 4 no money at all
This is 4 why I wasn't born like my brother, handsome and tall
This is 4 politicians who are bored and believe in war
And this... mmm, yeah, that's 4 me, that's who that one's 4

All The Critics Love U In New York

Yes, we're certain of it
He's definitely masturbating

International Lover

Good evening
This is your pilot Prince speaking
U are flying aboard the Seduction 747, mmm
And this plane is fully equipped with anything your body desires

If 4 any reason there's a loss in cabin pressure
I will automatically drop down 2 apply more
And 2 activate the flow of excitement
Extinguish all clothing materials and pull my body close 2 yours
Place my lips over your mouth, and kiss, kiss, normally

In the event there is over excitement
Your seat cushion may be used as a flotation device

La, la, la

We ask that U please observe the "No Letting Go" sign
I anticipate a few turbulence along the way

We are now making our final approach 2 Satisfaction
Please bring your lips, your arms, your hips
Into the upped and locked position
4 landing
Can U feel it? Can U feel it?
Ooh! Ow! Yeah!

Let me take U 'round the world
Girl, let it all hang out

Yeah, yeah, yes, yeah, yeah, yes, uh

Welcome 2 Satisfaction
Please remain awake until the aircraft has come 2 a complete stop
Thank U 4 flying Prince International
Remember, the next time U fly
Fly the International Lover

vainandy said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

^^^

right, I like to see people as they get older remain the same in all the good healthy ways, just get better at it, learn play parties, celebrate dress up and step out on town, flirt dance etc

That's right. And if old people didn't remain nasty, they would have never invented Viagara.

lol true

old doesn't have to mean looking & acting prepared for death

It's funny how people want Prince as some puritan, like they just became fans a few years ago

why be a Prince fan if you didn't like what he was singing about 1/2 the time

the 1978-1988 period is what made Prince, defined him, people can say what they want but we are here because of that period, it's the foundation of everything Prince will and would do afterwards

If anyone really thinks Prince can't sing Head or Darling Nikki, it's because they are projecting, I'm not saying he has too, but he can and it not be out of character or context. A lot of songs like Darling Nikki, Uptown etc are reciting a story, an event, and isn't that part of what songwriters and entertainers do? relate life events and stories

If you look at the whole of both of these projects including Bsides/Long versions

Around the World in a Day has more risque expressions too it, Purple Rain is very tame in comparison:Darling Nikki & Erotic City

Around the World in a Day:Tamborine, Tempation, Girl

No curse words/vulgarity in lyrics at all

Let's Go Crazy

She just picked up the phone, dropped it on the floor
"Ahh! Ahh!" was all I heard

Take Me With U

The Beautiful Ones

Computer Blue

Darling Nikki

I knew a girl named Nikki, I guess U could say she was a sex fiend
I met her in a hotel lobby masturbating with a magazine

She had so many devices, everything that money could buy
She said, “Sign your name on the dotted line”
The lights went out and Nikki started 2 grind

When Doves Cry

I Would Die 4 U

Baby I'm A Star

Purple Rain

Around the World in a Day

Paisley Park

Condition of the Heart

Raspberry Beret

Tamborine

Falling in love with the face in a magazine (uh oh, not again)
All alone by myself
Me and I play my tamborine

America

Pop Life

the Ladder

Tempation

Temptation
All my fingers in the pool go splash we must

Pop go mama when daddy gets a little 2 much
You know what I'm talkin' 'bout?
Oh, darling, I can almost taste the wetness between your...

OldFriends4Sale said:

I prefere his 1980's naughtiness over his 1990's dirtiness,

A lot of Prince's 'dirtier' lyrics were much more subdued even when outright

covered in symbolism,

Tamborine would be considered a naughty song, but it's definately not obvious

If you really look back through those 1980's albums they weren't even close to being as 'religious' or 'dirty' as people tend to paint that period

Look at the Purple Rain album, outside of the subject of Darling Nikki (please don't think masturbate is a bad or dirty word) Purple Rain is hardly an album with a whole lot of sexual or foul language

Around the World in a Day, same thing, Tamborine is very much covered, and Tempation a song about sex, again 'fingers in the pool go splash we must' is very much poetic that raunchy or dirty

Parade, nothing there either outsided of spelling in very muted tones P U SS Y, is a non religious and definately not dirty album

What was dirty about Sign o the Times?

What was dirty about Lovesexy?

a few curse words here and there? maybe, but the 1980's stuff is hardly

yes me too

90's Prince is so incongruous with his 80's output

for me 90's Prince

Parade extremely tame, covered messages in rhymn and in French

Sign o the Times(double album) 3 fucks and 1 damn, 1 song with Camille simulated sex at the end

Black album still in Prince coverted sex poetry, a bit more muthfuckin, fuckin, shits and asses

Christopher Tracy's Parade

New Position

Honey, I won't be your pappy (P. U. S. S. Y.)
But I'll do ya, I'll do ya, do ya, do ya, like a...

I Wonder U

Under The Cherry Moon

Girls & Boys

Life Can Be So Nice

Mountains

Do U Lie?

Kiss

Anotherloverholenyohead

Sometimes It Snows In April

Sign 'O' The Times

Play In The Sunshine

Housequake

Sh... shut up already, damn!

The Ballad Of Dorothy Parker

My pants were wet, they came off
But she didn't see the movie cuz she hadn't read the book first
Instead she pretended she was blind
An affliction brought on by a witch's curse

It

Fuckin' on your mind now (Feels so good, must be a crime)

Starfish And Coffee

Slow Love

Hot Thing

Forever In My Life

U Got The Look

If I Was Your Girlfriend

Tell me what will
If I was your girlfriend, would U tell me?
Would U let me see U naked then?
Would U let me give U a bath?
Would U let me tickle U so hard U'd laugh and laugh
And would U, would U let me kiss U there
U know, down there where it counts
I'll do it so good, I swear I'll drink every ounce
And then I'll hold U tight and hold U long
And 2gether we'll stare into silence

Strange Relationship

I Could Never Take The Place Of Your Man

The Cross

It's Gonna Be A Beautiful Night

(Can't nobody fuck with us)

Adore

I ain't fuckin' just 4 kicks

Le Grind

Cindy C.

Drink it quick Cindy – shit!

Dead On It

I got a silly rapper talking silly shit instead
My bed's a coffin, Dracula ain't got shit on me

When 2 R In Love

Bob George

U seein' that rich motherfucker again
Cuz I'll slap your ass into the middle of next week

U seein' that rich motherfucker again
What's his name? Bob?
Bob, ain't that a bitch?

I'll kick your ass

Oh no, the nigger's got a laser

This is your conscience, motherfucker
Why don't U leave motherfuckers alone?
What's wrong with U?
Well, why can't we just dance? Why can't we just dance?
No, fuck that, fuck that!
I don't talk about U, I don't talk about U
U little almond-shaped head ass
Who the fuck do U think this is?
I'll kick your ass… twice!

B-O-B, spell the shit backwards, what's it say?
Same motherfuckin' shit
Turn it out

Bob, ain't that a bitch?

Superfunkycalifragisexy

See, if U do 2 much, your skin'll be sensitive 2 the touch
The first person that touch U, U wanna fuck
U take 'em 2 your crib and U tie 'em 2 a chair
And U make funny faces till they get real scared
Then U turn on the neon, then U play with yourself
Till U turn 'em on

2 Nigs United 4 West Compton

These are "come-and-fuck-me" pumps (Who, Robert?)

I'm gonna kick your super natural ass! Cat, what's happenin' babe? (Bitch

Frankie, play something, bitch! (Squirrel Meat!)

h, would U play something?)

(Who U callin' ho bitch? Black ho bitch!)

Rockhard In A Funky Place

Maybe if U cop a nut in the car (Maybe if U cop a nut in the car)
I just hate 2 see an erection go 2 waste

What kind of fuck ending was that?

I love the more subtle with his dirty Prince of the '80s. I almost didn't recognize the more vulgar Prince of the '90s. I think ole boy still got an identity crisis but it seems little by little he's returned to that subtleness that defined him 30 years ago. To some degree.

It was never about the swear words, it was about the attitude and message he was conveying with them at the time. He can say the sames things (and has) without them.