Orgers, yall seem to know a thing or two about Prince.

So, I pose this question to you.

Why is our man releasing singles that have no album?

He must be up to four or five now in the last few years. Hot Summer, Rich Friends, etc.

Most are pretty forgettable affairs...not even up to snuff with the bsides of the 80s. But they're also not terrible. Some could even be hit singles if the general public cared about Prince anymore, and he worked payolla better.

But, none were attached to an actual album. Now we have this R&R Love Affair, complete with a professionally shot music video.

And, of course, we have yet another so-so talent protege album, but this time as a solo release.

Is the old dame just releasing material to remind us that he's still at it? Or is he just fucking with us. Every theory I've read so far about his treatment of vault material and lack of distribution methods that make sense.....don't make sense to me. What gives?

Yall tell me.

imago said:

Orgers, yall seem to know a thing or two about Prince.

BobGeorge909 said:

I don't think he has it in him to record albums anymore.

You are out your ever loving cotton pickin mind.

I have a feeling RnRLA is a preview single to an album for early 2013. And that it is not indicative of the style of the rest of the album I bet.

^^^ We live in hope.

The last interesting 'one-off release' I heard was P-Funk. That didn't sound as spontaneous to me as a lot of people thought it was either.

The whole thing's changed. Gone are the top 40 single days or relevance of singles promoting albums. I just think he's making music (Mostly piss poor by his own standards) and aint too sure where or how to put it in todays music world. Especially since the internet died. In his head anyway.

I'm not so sure the mysterious 'vault' has that much left in it that's credible. Maybe I'm wrong? I hope so.

I mean, who's to say he hasn't just pulled a tune outta there every now and then and reworked it a bit. If there were still real bangers in there like Old Friends or JIR wouldn't he be pulling em out? (Prove me wrong P, ffs. cos this stuff's just shit mate).

I wouldn't be surprised if the tin's all but empty of good stuff. That's not to say he couldn't write a decent album in a week if he felt it. Whether that album would be anything we'd wanna hear is another matter.

Who knows what he's up to, who ever has? Not even the little man in the big shoes knows til it's happenin. I don't think anyone would be surprised to see an album in '13 though. Lucky for some?

Fonkyman said:

^^^ We live in hope.

The last interesting 'one-off release' I heard was P-Funk. That didn't sound as spontaneous to me as a lot of people thought it was either.

The whole thing's changed. Gone are the top 40 single days or relevance of singles promoting albums. I just think he's making music (Mostly piss poor by his own standards) and aint too sure where or how to put it in todays music world. Especially since the internet died. In his head anyway.

I'm not so sure the mysterious 'vault' has that much left in it that's credible. Maybe I'm wrong? I hope so.

I mean, who's to say he hasn't just pulled a tune outta there every now and then and reworked it a bit. If there were still real bangers in there like Old Friends or JIR wouldn't he be pulling em out? (Prove me wrong P, ffs. cos this stuff's just shit mate).

I wouldn't be surprised if the tin's all but empty of good stuff. That's not to say he couldn't write a decent album in a week if he felt it. Whether that album would be anything we'd wanna hear is another matter.

Who knows what he's up to, who ever has? Not even the little man in the big shoes knows til it's happenin. I don't think anyone would be surprised to see an album in '13 though. Lucky for some?

I think his "The Internet is over" statement is more of a sour grapes comment on his part.

What's really happening is that he's lost relevance, and failed miserably to capture the audience he thought he would with lotusfailure. Rather than starting from scratch and building up a retail site, he simply thought it was going to be a hit out of the box, and now blames the "Internet' for his own inept business practices.

I mean, the Internet certainly isn't dead for Radiohead, Natalie Merchant, Nine Inch Nails, and a host of other established acts that seem to be happy with their own websites.

This is a guy stuck in a time warp, completely obsessed with control every aspect of his career and image. Instead of working in a symbiotic relationship with his once formidable fanbase where he writes the genius material and they in large part do the promotion for him (like Greatful dead fans or radiohead fans, or hell... Cold Play fans), he has been openingly hostile to his own fanbase. This could be written off as just being an asshole, but it also shows a clear lack of vision on a medium that is NOT over, and not going away any time soon.

imago said:

Yall tell me.

We don't fucking know. What's confusing about it? Can't you just take these songs as they are? Plastic throwaways that will languish on peoples hard drives till the end of time. It's just as well they did not pollute any album, his last few albums manage to be shit all by themselves.

imago said:

Orgers, yall seem to know a thing or two about Prince.

So, I pose this question to you.

Why is our man releasing singles that have no album?

He does no longer require you to believe the single - album paradigm any longer.

That's it.

He won't really promote stuff any more. Stuff appears not so well planned, as was the past decade or so. All in all it's business as usual.

When I speak to people below 25 I hear them mention that it is a singles market (I reckon they mean for songs). The snack more instead of listening to a whole album. (and yes there a still who enjoy albums)

dualboot said:

When I speak to people below 25 I hear them mention that it is a singles market (I reckon they mean for songs). The snack more instead of listening to a whole album. (and yes there a still who enjoy albums)

it's only a singles market if the songs are good and promoted well, otherwise it's just pissing into the wind. RnrLA could possibly make a small dent in the market as he seems to be promoting it better than previous singles and it's actually quite a good song. time will tell.

rdhull said:

Prince is only releasing music (albums),

if he gets a lot of $$$$ in return, maybe that's why?

Maybe albums are too "expenssive" for him.. he is not getting enough in return..?

after all Prince is very very materialistic.

thedance said:

after all Prince is very very materialistic.

depends. His control gene is more present.

He is sitting on a goldmine with all his live recordings and outtakes and I feel he will torch PP when he dies to takes these with him before making money off them

dualboot said:

thedance said:

after all Prince is very very materialistic.

depends. His control gene is more present.

He is sitting on a goldmine with all his live recordings and outtakes and I feel he will torch PP when he dies to takes these with him before making money off them

Something like that.

After all, he didn't show us yet that he knows how to deal with his legacy, with the vault, etc in a proper way.

BobGeorge909 said:

The last solid album he put together with a theme and all was TRC....that was 4ever ago. Lotus and MPLS were almost there....but no cigar....

wrong

rdhull said:

I have a feeling RnRLA is a preview single to an album for early 2013. And that it is not indicative of the style of the rest of the album I bet.

i think you're right rd.

didn't people say the same thing about "te amo corazon" and then a few months later, all of a

sudden there was 3121.

people hated on the song a lot, but in the end, it didn't really represent the album at all. i still

think it's a good song though. and a fairly nice video too.

SuperSoulFighter said:

Dirty Mind or Sign o'the Times were never intended as albums either. Prince records all the time and makes an album when the time is right. So it's not really that unusual. Remember, there was never a Rolling Stones LP that had Jumping Jack Flash or Honky Tonk Women on it (except compilations.)

Please don't spread misinformation. Dirty Mind and Sign o the Times were never intended as anything but albums.

rdhull said:

I have a feeling RnRLA is a preview single to an album for early 2013. And that it is not indicative of the style of the rest of the album I bet.

I hope not. R&R is terrible. He is ripping of the past in his style and music. If he's going to steal from himself he should be making great music, not a total borefest

I'd love to get an album. I'm probably one of the few that ordered RNR from Purple Music, but I can't help myself when it comes to Prince. But I would love to see an album again soon for sure!!

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

rdhull said:

I have a feeling RnRLA is a preview single to an album for early 2013. And that it is not indicative of the style of the rest of the album I bet.

I hope not. R&R is terrible. He is ripping of the past in his style and music. If he's going to steal from himself he should be making great music, not a total borefest

Yall trip me out when you say this lol.

rdhull said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

I hope not. R&R is terrible. He is ripping of the past in his style and music. If he's going to steal from himself he should be making great music, not a total borefest

Yall trip me out when you say this lol.

which part, that he's stealing or terrible?

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

rdhull said:

Yall trip me out when you say this lol.

which part, that he's stealing or terrible?

the terrible part

I think Prince is just bored/tired/uninspired when it comes to releasing new music these days.I predict that he'll continue to release the occasional single every now and then,and possibly a new album every two years or so...or not.

I just don't think his heart is in it anymore

rdhull said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

which part, that he's stealing or terrible?

the terrible part

Do you think it's a good song? He is ripping off parts and pieces from the past but it doesn't sound good. Terrible!

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

rdhull said:

the terrible part

Do you think it's a good song? He is ripping off parts and pieces from the past but it doesn't sound good. Terrible!

I think its nice pleasant pop tune. It doesnt bring forth a negative vibe of my perosns

Thats what I dont regarding the criticisms...of not just this song but of the overview of the decades long releases.

I think they are imiediately pleasant to the ear whereas before in the 80's it took several spins to 'feel' it. Maybe thats what people mean by challenging/non-challenging music. I do want and like challenging but the 'pleasant' songs aren't 'terrible' to me.

I quite like the fact P is releasing singles when ever he wants. However, they would be better if

• The songs were good
• They had B-sides (not just remixes)
• Were not off albums that came 2 years before

andykeen said:

I quite like the fact P is releasing singles when ever he wants. However, they would be better if

• The songs were good

The songs aren't good? Why not?