I would like someone as famous as Prince is to promote ethical fashion. I think he does not wear clothes/shoes using animal products but he does wear designer clothes. For example D&G have not stopped sandblasting jeans and I have seen him wear this logo on sunglasses. He also recently supported H & M and they have had bad press about their ethics. If people in the public eye made issues such as child labour, fairtrade, sweatshops etc a more important issue then hopefully the fashion industry would change for the better. This would in turn make the more affordable shops change their practices too so that we the normal public can know for sure that the clothes we are buying ethically.

I think Prince has folks who make his 'personal' clothes, shoes, and guitars, etc..

I'm not concerned about the ethical part.

Chile, the San Diego Zoo couldn't house all the animals that have been put into concentration camps for testing on his hair and makeup products, shoooooot.

Look, Prince wrote and released Purple & Gold. For that reason alone, he's not ethical.

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MaggieJ said:

I would like someone as famous as Prince is to promote ethical fashion. I think he does not wear clothes/shoes using animal products but he does wear designer clothes. For example D&G have not stopped sandblasting jeans and I have seen him wear this logo on sunglasses. He also recently supported H & M and they have had bad press about their ethics. If people in the public eye made issues such as child labour, fairtrade, sweatshops etc a more important issue then hopefully the fashion industry would change for the better. This would in turn make the more affordable shops change their practices too so that we the normal public can know for sure that the clothes we are buying ethically.

Hi MaggieJ,

Fashion and what is ethical can be a difficult issue. I would like to take your thoughts a bit further and inquire of u, do you eat meat? Are you in on the inhumane slaughter of animals to eat their flesh? I guess not. Great.

Child labor is something that goes on today and it seems unfortunate but what about several hundred years ago. It is a complicated issue to address this because karma and dharma involved in almost everything. I have been a child servant in India who was given away before both of my parents died. Was this wrong? Please don't judge the rightness or wrongness of that because again karma and dharma were at work. Just try to see God in everything and stand up for what you feel is right or wrong for yourself but please don't judge others for what you see as wrong.

Prince is true 2 his music and craft - he didn't have to put himself out in the sublimelight of this music world so that he could assist others in liberation. I like awhile back when an orger stated something to the effect that P's meaning of a song and two sevens had to do about his peace before putting out his first album and ppl then beginning to critique him.

The only way to ensure that your clothes are ethically created is to grow the cotton from the Earth in your back yard. But, then, when we pick the cotton from the plant are we hurting the plant itself. Did we 4get to thank our Creator and the bush before picking it if we indeed grew that cotton in our own back yard?

Stop waiting for the obligatory celebrity endorsement to establish your own ethical barometer. Prince's ethics or lack thereof should have no bearing on what you believe in or stand for.

HonestMan13 said:

Stop waiting for the obligatory celebrity endorsement to establish your own ethical barometer. Prince's ethics or lack thereof should have no bearing on what you believe in or stand for.

^^^sexy

HonestMan13 said:

Stop waiting for the obligatory celebrity endorsement to establish your own ethical barometer. Prince's ethics or lack thereof should have no bearing on what you believe in or stand for.

Say it again....................and again.

If you have an iPod, iPhone or iPad.... congratulations. You're supporting a sweatshop.

AAPL does not give dividend, does not invest in the USSA.

Does not pay enough taxes in USSA.

Etc.

AAPL is an evil patent troll.

hypocrite or eclectic ethicist, anyone?!

udo said:

AAPL does not give dividend, does not invest in the USSA.

Does not pay enough taxes in USSA.

Etc.

AAPL is an evil patent troll.

maja2405 said:

hypocrite or eclectic ethicist, anyone?!

Brilliant term! I'm going to use that one.

You inspired me into a series: pragmatic ethicist and opportune ethicist.

[Edited 11/5/12 13:26pm]

raddahone said:

MaggieJ said:

I would like someone as famous as Prince is to promote ethical fashion. I think he does not wear clothes/shoes using animal products but he does wear designer clothes. For example D&G have not stopped sandblasting jeans and I have seen him wear this logo on sunglasses. He also recently supported H & M and they have had bad press about their ethics. If people in the public eye made issues such as child labour, fairtrade, sweatshops etc a more important issue then hopefully the fashion industry would change for the better. This would in turn make the more affordable shops change their practices too so that we the normal public can know for sure that the clothes we are buying ethically.

Hi MaggieJ,

Fashion and what is ethical can be a difficult issue. I would like to take your thoughts a bit further and inquire of u, do you eat meat? Are you in on the inhumane slaughter of animals to eat their flesh? I guess not. Great.

Child labor is something that goes on today and it seems unfortunate but what about several hundred years ago. It is a complicated issue to address this because karma and dharma involved in almost everything. I have been a child servant in India who was given away before both of my parents died. Was this wrong? Please don't judge the rightness or wrongness of that because again karma and dharma were at work. Just try to see God in everything and stand up for what you feel is right or wrong for yourself but please don't judge others for what you see as wrong.

Prince is true 2 his music and craft - he didn't have to put himself out in the sublimelight of this music world so that he could assist others in liberation. I like awhile back when an orger stated something to the effect that P's meaning of a song and two sevens had to do about his peace before putting out his first album and ppl then beginning to critique him.

The only way to ensure that your clothes are ethically created is to grow the cotton from the Earth in your back yard. But, then, when we pick the cotton from the plant are we hurting the plant itself. Did we 4get to thank our Creator and the bush before picking it if we indeed grew that cotton in our own back yard?

What are your different thoughts about it? I'm from a very different culture, so, I really can't relate to it. Do you have conflicting thoughts about it or have you already formed one conclusion about it?

And you mention it is karma, do you feel it was your own fault? Do you divide responsebility or do you think it was inevitably.

I'm not judging anybody, I'm very interested in how you perceivede and experienced it.

How and what happened? And is that a common fate of children in India?

maja2405 said:

dJJ said:

raddahone said:

Fashion and what is ethical can be a difficult issue. I would like to take your thoughts a bit further and inquire of u, do you eat meat? Are you in on the inhumane slaughter of animals to eat their flesh? I guess not. Great.

Child labor is something that goes on today and it seems unfortunate but what about several hundred years ago. It is a complicated issue to address this because karma and dharma involved in almost everything. I have been a child servant in India who was given away before both of my parents died. Was this wrong? Please don't judge the rightness or wrongness of that because again karma and dharma were at work. Just try to see God in everything and stand up for what you feel is right or wrong for yourself but please don't judge others for what you see as wrong.

Prince is true 2 his music and craft - he didn't have to put himself out in the sublimelight of this music world so that he could assist others in liberation. I like awhile back when an orger stated something to the effect that P's meaning of a song and two sevens had to do about his peace before putting out his first album and ppl then beginning to critique him.

The only way to ensure that your clothes are ethically created is to grow the cotton from the Earth in your back yard. But, then, when we pick the cotton from the plant are we hurting the plant itself. Did we 4get to thank our Creator and the bush before picking it if we indeed grew that cotton in our own back yard?

What are your different thoughts about it? I'm from a very different culture, so, I really can't relate to it. Do you have conflicting thoughts about it or have you already formed one conclusion about it?

And you mention it is karma, do you feel it was your own fault? Do you divide responsebility or do you think it was inevitably.

I'm not judging anybody, I'm very interested in how you perceivede and experienced it.

How and what happened? And is that a common fate of children in India?

Slavery in India is common as well as around the world. We just don't see so much of it because of living in the states. Didn't Prince go through the Slave state from WB? We can even go to the 1920's and see one famous going through a Slave campaign with the silent movies industry.

Karma and Dharma are interwoven. Possibly, when one is in a situation, instead of going through and living one of the Celestine Prophesy Dramas to control the situation (interragator, intimidator, poor me, or aloof), if one looks at it with acceptance and how can I serve God in this moment for the Highest Good, then it really isn't karma, transmutes to Dharma, and transcends to Surrender with action - action is key, Surrender does not mean that one is lazy and does nothing - then acceptance and moksha steps in.

I don't talk about it but can write about the past life as a servant. Yes, a servant in a household awhile back in another life. In India, there is and was the caste system where servantry continues. But, surrendering every action when the world inside and outside seems so heavy and dark does indeed bring the Lord and Angels around. Even when we can't see Angels, please belive that they love us, because they do. They Exist to Love Us. They Exist totally for us and want to help turn our karma into dharma and free us.

Now, in this current life, I was raised Catholic and revolted, especially about confession and going inside a booth with a curtain and a Man there listening to my sins. I would rather keep that direct with God and not an intermediary.

Back to the karma situation, that Life in India, as well as other lifes in India, did help me lively freely from the inner planes to realize that God does Love Us and does Manifest Around Us. In the beginning of this life, one of my music teachers had statues of Ganesh in his studio and I though the guy was crazy. But, i eventually found out that he was not or is not so crazy and instead we both are crazy for God.

[Edited 11/29/12 13:17pm]

rdhull said:

That's exactly what I did when I read this.

HonestMan13 said:

Stop waiting for the obligatory celebrity endorsement to establish your own ethical barometer. Prince's ethics or lack thereof should have no bearing on what you believe in or stand for.