Dear .Org,

I could be wrong regarding these lyrics, but on Prince's song, "If I Was King", am I correct in hearing these words repeated over and over again...

"If I was a king

This and next lifetime"

Or is he perhaps just waxing lyrical because he is in love (with Andy)?

love,

Spirit

I don't think this is a new ideology for P.

From 'The Max' ( album)

"And contrary to popular belief even though one's life is brief

If u go there once you come again and again"

The song 'Comeback' from The Truth album seems to be all about his belief in a 'next lifetime'.

SpiritOtter said:

Dear .Org,

I could be wrong regarding these lyrics, but on Prince's song, "If I Was King", am I correct in hearing these words repeated over and over again...

"If I was a king

She'd be my queen

And I'd make her mine

This and next lifetime"

Or is he perhaps just waxing lyrical because he is in love (with Andy)?

love,

Spirit

It's consistent with JW beliefs. They belive that after judgement day they'll be resurrected to eternal life in paradise on Earth.

Also, Prince didn't write that song. From princevault.com:

Superconductor is the second studio album by Andy Allo, her first on NPG Records, released on 20 November, 2012. The album includes six songs written byAndy Allo, and three songs co-written by Prince: Superconductor, The Calm andLong Gone.

SpiritOtter said:

Dear .Org,

I could be wrong regarding these lyrics, but on Prince's song, "If I Was King", am I correct in hearing these words repeated over and over again...

"If I was a king

She'd be my queen

And I'd make her mine

This and next lifetime"

Or is he perhaps just waxing lyrical because he is in love (with Andy)?

love,

Spirit

Prince has spoken about reincarnation at least as far back as Mayte so what exactly is new here?

babynoz,

I thought reincarnation was an Eastern-influenced belief system?

love,

Spirit

SpiritOtter said:

babynoz,

I thought reincarnation was an Eastern-influenced belief system?

love,

Spirit

Yes but now Prince isn't talking about reincarnation, he's talking about resurection.

Thanks, TheEnglishGent

I guess one question might be - is one belief system - reincarnation or ressurection - more evolved than the other?

Also, do you know if there are any similarities or are they entirely mutually exclusive?

love,

Spirit

prince still has to "make" his woman do whatever .. no he has not evolved at all ..

plus making andy "mine" shows he sees his woman as a possession .. again .. his spirit is in the toilet

SpiritOtter said:

I guess one question might be - is one belief system - reincarnation or ressurection - more evolved than the other?

You seem to be asking which is 'better', but I don't think evolved is the right word. Maybe 'enlightened' would be more suitable.

BTW, I think reincarnation is part of Judaism to a lesser extent too, pretty sure it's mentioned somewhere in the lesser writings, so it's not just an Eastern philosophy.

SpiritOtter said:

Thanks, TheEnglishGent

I guess one question might be - is one belief system - reincarnation or ressurection - more evolved than the other?

Also, do you know if there are any similarities or are they entirely mutually exclusive?

love,

Spirit

My thoughts...

reincarnation - re-embodiment - but, there is more than this Earth plane as far as re-embodiment. this can go on in multiple planes/dimensions. i have no problem with the thoughts that we keep coming back with contracts - yes, contracts - from past lives and also for this life. possibly, these are worked out with the Lords of Karma. Making karma in2 dharma might work. dharma would be duty - duty to serve God in the highest fashion possible for the highest good of All. as one reincarnates, the higher self stays above and also the past spirit of the re-embodiment most of the times and goes to school or where ever it may need to be. this is also tricky 2 me because, in essence, one reincarnates but the higher Self exists on the higher planes and is so willing to help, when called. Help, yes, as well as all of those who have ascended.

resurrection - interesting too because, to me, if one reincarnates, one can look at this as the resurrection. standing on the Earth plane on a grave past for the one who is physically re-emobodied is one of the trickiest things around. praying on top of that grave is very cool also. there are Ascended Masters who are not in physical body now through physical birth. can they come and go creating a physical body for a few moments in the time, my belief is yes. the best books on this are, in my opinion, The I AM books by the Saint Germain Foundation/org. These Masters are here to help when called on. Can a being in the physical also be a resurrected Being at the same time?

It seems to me that most want to graduate from this Earth school and go somewhere where it is happy and free. But, is this the proper use of an Ascended Being? Earth Beings do need to hool-up or connect with the Higher Beings to be more effective. So, why wouldn't Ascended Beings cycle in-and-out of Earth through physical births to assist the evolution of mankind.

The Ascended Masters will continue to Serve as All Deserve Moksha. But, Moksha - Liberation - Ascension - in my book, is only granted and earned through unconditional service to the Divine surrending each seeming moment to the Higher Self and the ultimate Higher Self where We Are One in Each Other and We Are One in the Lord.

LoveThouMe.

Yes, somewhat.

evolved? I'd say devolved..he went from open arms to specific beleifs and finger pointing of sorts...

he needs to sing ams wide open or open arms of sorts and then his muse will be free flowing

.hush Ivy.

[Edited 11/28/12 10:02am]

rdhull said:

evolved? I'd day devolved..he went form open arms to specific beleifs and finger pointing of sorts...

he needs to sing ams wide open or open arms of sorts and then his muse will be free flowing

this is exactly what I was going to say. But I would not have had the grammatical error.

Stymie said:

rdhull said:

evolved? I'd day devolved..he went form open arms to specific beleifs and finger pointing of sorts...

he needs to sing ams wide open or open arms of sorts and then his muse will be free flowing

this is exactly what I was going to say. But I would not have had the grammatical error.

It´s a semantic error you smartass!

KoolEaze said:

Stymie said:

this is exactly what I was going to say. But I would not have had the grammatical error.

It´s a semantic error you smartass!

wrong..Im baptist (via conversion)

rdhull said:

KoolEaze said:

It´s a semantic error you smartass!

wrong..Im baptist (via conversion)

Both of y'all

I wonder how Prince really figures out "reincarnation", incarnate as? a better one, til the the wisest , then til Nirvana?

IMO :The reincarnation that might be: throughout our offspring, we continue to live into our future generation..

I also suppose that if we get buried, throught nature, we continue to live in other types of enveloppe, other than flesh..

SpiritOtter said:

babynoz,

I thought reincarnation was an Eastern-influenced belief system?

love,

Spirit

Reincarnation is but one aspect of Eastern belief systems as well as some non Eastern systems.

If you are implying that Prince was never influenced by

eastern thought then you must not have been around during the Emancipation era in particular.

SpiritOtter said:

Thanks, TheEnglishGent

I guess one question might be - is one belief system - reincarnation or ressurection - more evolved than the other?

Also, do you know if there are any similarities or are they entirely mutually exclusive?

love,

Spirit

Honestly, I don't regard any belief system as evolved but that's a different discussion.

Reincarnation as I understand it is a different principle to resurrection though. Resurrection implies coming back as yourself whereas reincarnation you could come back as anything.

Prince has sung about reincarnation

If I came back as a dolphin would you listen to me then?

Since turning JW whenever he talks about afterlife, the everlasing now, for ever etc. He's talking about resurrection in the new world.

In keeping with his JW beliefs I do think he is talking about resurrection moreso than reincarnation. Also, even though it's Andy singing it and he wasn't given writing credits...i think it's fairly obvious he wrote this song either about her or another chick. There was even a pic she posted on facebook (it's gone now) where the caption was "smile that can weaken any man i swear" and a pic of her in Prince's long moroccan-looking dress/shirt (which he wore in Rotterdam at an aftershow).

Just my 2 cents!

peri1025 said:

In keeping with his JW beliefs I do think he is talking about resurrection moreso than reincarnation. Also, even though it's Andy singing it and he wasn't given writing credits...i think it's fairly obvious he wrote this song either about her or another chick. There was even a pic she posted on facebook (it's gone now) where the caption was "smile that can weaken any man i swear" and a pic of her in Prince's long moroccan-looking dress/shirt (which he wore in Rotterdam at an aftershow).

Just my 2 cents!

^^ Prince is never where we expect him to be, he shows what he wants to show, he draggs us through passes where he likes people to be lost, in order to keep secret what he's really living which he wants to hide and protect from medias and audiences.

His core and spirit since he was born is obviously secret, he's a gemini to the core!

What I mean is, never take for granted and true what he shows because it' sa point of view he wants us to have, not the obvious reality..

TrevorAyer said:

plus making andy "mine" shows he sees his woman as a possession .. again .. his spirit is in the toilet

He may not meant to make her mines in a forceful and possessive way. He could mean that she will always be in his heart, and this is the woman he choose to be with, eternally.

I don`t think joining the JWs (and all religions for that matter) is spiritualy evolving, actually It`s quite the opposite...