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Thread started 11/04/12 3:51pm

NikkiAndTheRev
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Prince VS. Rick James (BATTLE OF THE BEST)

Theres a battle going on V103 (102.7) in Chi-Town and Prince is in the lead.!!

TURN ON THEM RADIO'S!!!!

We all know whos gonna win this competition right?

(Im getting tired of all these Rick James songs.......... -_- )

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Reply #1 posted 11/05/12 9:29am

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Who won?

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Reply #2 posted 11/05/12 2:06pm

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Rick James

-_-
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Reply #3 posted 11/06/12 8:09am

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NikkiAndTheRevolution said:

Rick James -_-

Not surprising. :lol:People tend to discount Prince's talent. Especially urban radio fans.

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Reply #4 posted 11/06/12 8:27am

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NikkiAndTheRevolution said:

Rick James

-_-


Psh. I didn't call in!
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Reply #5 posted 11/06/12 8:34am

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NikkiAndTheRevolution said:

Rick James -_-

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woot!

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Reply #6 posted 11/06/12 8:39am

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Ironic considering Prince just tore up Chi-town to benefit the people of Chi-town, and Rick James is, um, dead.

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Reply #7 posted 11/06/12 10:22am

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NouveauDance said:



NikkiAndTheRevolution said:


Rick James -_-

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woot!



:falloff: I can't!
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Reply #8 posted 11/07/12 3:11am

Scotsman1999

I love my Rick James best of Cd. 'You And I' is one of the funkiest songs I've ever heard, it's just the dog's bollocks.

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Reply #9 posted 11/07/12 4:02am

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skywalker said:

Ironic considering Prince just tore up Chi-town to benefit the people of Chi-town, and Rick James is, um, dead.



YES! He blew the roof offa the United Center..... and Rick James still wins?? NO. What the heck Chicago?!
-_- oh god. The radio station played How Come You Don't Call Me Anymore and Prince LOST?


Rick is a'ight, but reeaally now?
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Reply #10 posted 11/07/12 2:32pm

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Rick James has a more traditional radio friendly disco/funk sound, that was primarily aimed at the black urban R&B audience (he barely registered on the 'white' radar) - whereas Prince (even early on) wanted to break out from the constraints of the whole black/white charts/radio thing and carve a whole new audience of post-disco new wave/punk-pop-rock (Purple Music). Only recently, I feel Prince has gone back and allowed himself to re-embrace the old soul/funk/disco icons of the past with tracks like Chelsea Rodgers and live covers versions by Sylvester and Chaka etc.

Prince is both above categorisation (he is his own genre!) and at the same time part of the rich tapestry of black (and white) music history.

So it's not suprising that Rick would win out on a urban/black radio battle as he is/was purely focused on that particular demographic, whereas Prince's fan-base is far more diverse and thinly spread throughout all music genre's - it wouldn't be strange to hear Prince on a rock channel or even a jazz one - whereas Rick would never be heard anywhere but R&B radio.

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Reply #11 posted 11/07/12 4:50pm

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Rick James -_-

Must've been too many homophobics voting;-)

[Edited 11/7/12 17:42pm]

We're here, might as well get into it.
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Reply #12 posted 11/08/12 11:21am

BEAUGARDE

According to V103 website Prince 60.49 % & Rick 39.51 %, so Prince won!

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Reply #13 posted 11/08/12 2:18pm

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O_O I HEARD WRONG!!! YAAAAY PRINCE!!!!

Hehe im sorry people smile Will ya ever forgive mee?
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Reply #14 posted 11/08/12 9:15pm

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between the two I choose Rick James for funk/R&B. Nobody touches him!! I would choose Prince for pop/rock field. Rick James is da bomb!!

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Reply #15 posted 11/08/12 11:14pm

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I love the funk Rick James provided, but it was basically one groove divided into tons of similar discoish danceable songs that hit hard but used the same formula over and over again. Gather his best tracks on one record, and apart from a few genius basslines, brass orchestration and hooks, they're more or less the same song. And this I say even though he is one of the main influences to my own music. Prince formula was more about production technique, minimalism, sometimes lack of bass, sound and attitude he put everything he did as well as persona. Even though one might say when doves cry pretty much sums up his formula for the most part when talking his most familiar techniques put in one song, he never made another when doves cry before or after this.
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Definitely the right two to put up against in a battle because they were both the baddest of the bad. The winner for me would be according to the particular tracks that were played for each of them. If they played a lot of the pop/rock stuff from Prince or a lot of the stuff recorded after Purple Rain, my vote would definitely go to Rick James. And if they played a lot of stuff like "Glow", "Ebony Eyes", "Sexual Luv Affair", etc. from Rick James, my vote would go to Prince.

A battle with stuff like "Let's Work" going up against "Hard To Get", "Sexy Dancer" going up against "Come Into My Life", or just hard driving jams in general like "Lady Cab Driver", "Fire It Up", "Head", "High On Your Love Suite"....hard driving funk up against hard driving funk from each artist....it would be hard as hell to choose.

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Reply #17 posted 11/09/12 12:43am

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Toofunkyinhere said:

NikkiAndTheRevolution said:

Rick James -_-

Must've been too many homophobics voting;-)

[Edited 11/7/12 17:42pm]

If it were Prince vs. some shit hopper, I would agree. But the Prince being put up against Rick James has been going on since the early 1980s long before they started putting him up against Michael Jackson and that was mainly the pop fans that put him up against Michael Jackson.

When the actual battle was going on in the early 1980s, most R&B fans were fans of both artists and the reason they even put the two up against each other is because both of them were the two hardest jamming artists on R&B radio at the time and that's saying a lot because damn near everybody was throwing down hard back then. I used to hear a little of the "Prince is a fag" thing coming from a few hardcore Rick James fans back then but not very often because most of them saw Prince as a talent that matched Rick's but simply liked Rick's style better. I never saw much mass crazy homophobia from some Rick fans until the internet but I also noticed that Rick's fan site only had very few members which means a lot of the crazies gathered together in one place. And like Prince has some crazy fans that will change their whole view of life to match Prince's view of life, Rick had some crazy fans too that would absolutely hate Prince simply because Rick hated him. lol There's a lot more Rick James fans than the ones that were on that website. Most folks in general in the real world just see them as two bad ass artists and if they had to choose, they simply choose the style of music they like best.

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Scotsman1999 said:

I love my Rick James best of Cd. 'You And I' is one of the funkiest songs I've ever heard, it's just the dog's bollocks.

Oh, you need to get some full albums of his and you will be in funk heaven. lol Unfortunately, Motown is the world's worst at releasing old albums on CD though. But if you have a turntable, put them on, turn them up, and throw down.

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Reply #19 posted 11/09/12 3:37am

Scotsman1999

I've only heard about twenty of his tracks, but I like almost all of them. What albums would you recommend I track down? I have a turntable that I can use if necessary!
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Reply #20 posted 11/09/12 5:56am

BEAUGARDE

Even tho Rick was king back then, it really depends on the songs that were played because Prince was becoming a monster. It was over for Rick when Prince made 1999.

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Scotsman1999 said:

I've only heard about twenty of his tracks, but I like almost all of them. What albums would you recommend I track down? I have a turntable that I can use if necessary!

"Street Songs" was his best selling and most popular album. It was Rick's "Purple Rain". It's available on CD. "Throwin' Down" kinda continues on with the "Street Songs" vibe. That one is only available on vinyl. Those two albums have the sound that Rick was known for when he was at the height of his fame. Every single track on those two albums is great. If it were me, I would buy those two albums first.

"Come Get It" is available on CD and is pretty good. "Bustin' Out Of L Seven" which is only on vinyl is pretty good too. Get those two next. Then there's "Fire It Up" which has been released on CD in recent years. It has some of my alltime favorite Rick James jams on it but a lot of people don't like the ending ballads on side 2 of the record. I didn't back in the day but I love the entire album now. "Cold Blooded", only available on vinyl, is another good one too. It was his last really good album before he fell off.

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vainandy said:

Scotsman1999 said:

I've only heard about twenty of his tracks, but I like almost all of them. What albums would you recommend I track down? I have a turntable that I can use if necessary!

"Street Songs" was his best selling and most popular album. It was Rick's "Purple Rain". It's available on CD. "Throwin' Down" kinda continues on with the "Street Songs" vibe. That one is only available on vinyl. Those two albums have the sound that Rick was known for when he was at the height of his fame. Every single track on those two albums is great. If it were me, I would buy those two albums first.

"Come Get It" is available on CD and is pretty good. "Bustin' Out Of L Seven" which is only on vinyl is pretty good too. Get those two next. Then there's "Fire It Up" which has been released on CD in recent years. It has some of my alltime favorite Rick James jams on it but a lot of people don't like the ending ballads on side 2 of the record. I didn't back in the day but I love the entire album now. "Cold Blooded", only available on vinyl, is another good one too. It was his last really good album before he fell off.

"Bustin' Out of L Seven" is available on cd. It is out of print, but not that hard to find 2nd hand. Also, "Fire It Up," "Throwin' Down," "Come to my Garden," "Reflections" and "Cold Blooded" are all on cd also.

"Fire It Up" and "Come To My Garden" were recently reissued and should be easy to get.

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Dandroppedadime said:

Rick James has a more traditional radio friendly disco/funk sound, that was primarily aimed at the black urban R&B audience (he barely registered on the 'white' radar) - whereas Prince (even early on) wanted to break out from the constraints of the whole black/white charts/radio thing and carve a whole new audience of post-disco new wave/punk-pop-rock (Purple Music). Only recently, I feel Prince has gone back and allowed himself to re-embrace the old soul/funk/disco icons of the past with tracks like Chelsea Rodgers and live covers versions by Sylvester and Chaka etc.

Prince is both above categorisation (he is his own genre!) and at the same time part of the rich tapestry of black (and white) music history.

So it's not suprising that Rick would win out on a urban/black radio battle as he is/was purely focused on that particular demographic, whereas Prince's fan-base is far more diverse and thinly spread throughout all music genre's - it wouldn't be strange to hear Prince on a rock channel or even a jazz one - whereas Rick would never be heard anywhere but R&B radio.

yeahthat

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I love the funk Rick James provided, but it was basically one groove divided into tons of similar discoish danceable songs that hit hard but used the same formula over and over again. Gather his best tracks on one record, and apart from a few genius basslines, brass orchestration and hooks, they're more or less the same song. And this I say even though he is one of the main influences to my own music. Prince formula was more about production technique, minimalism, sometimes lack of bass, sound and attitude he put everything he did as well as persona. Even though one might say when doves cry pretty much sums up his formula for the most part when talking his most familiar techniques put in one song, he never made another when doves cry before or after this.

yeahthat

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Definitely the right two to put up against in a battle because they were both the baddest of the bad. The winner for me would be according to the particular tracks that were played for each of them. If they played a lot of the pop/rock stuff from Prince or a lot of the stuff recorded after Purple Rain, my vote would definitely go to Rick James. And if they played a lot of stuff like "Glow", "Ebony Eyes", "Sexual Luv Affair", etc. from Rick James, my vote would go to Prince.

A battle with stuff like "Let's Work" going up against "Hard To Get", "Sexy Dancer" going up against "Come Into My Life", or just hard driving jams in general like "Lady Cab Driver", "Fire It Up", "Head", "High On Your Love Suite"....hard driving funk up against hard driving funk from each artist....it would be hard as hell to choose.

And yeahthat

I was a Rick fan before i became a Prince fan so rick is near and dear to my heart. Having said that though, i gotta give it to prince.

[Edited 11/9/12 19:38pm]

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daPrettyman said:

"Bustin' Out of L Seven" is available on cd. It is out of print, but not that hard to find 2nd hand. Also, "Fire It Up," "Throwin' Down," "Come to my Garden," "Reflections" and "Cold Blooded" are all on cd also.

"Fire It Up" and "Come To My Garden" were recently reissued and should be easy to get.

Cold Blooded is expensive and don't think it was ever reissued, so the sound quality probably isn't all that. I've never seen Thrownin' Down on CD standalone, but I do have the CD release where it's on a single CD with Street Songs - I've seen that really expensive too, but I found it in a second hand record store in the mid-90s for pennies.

Wish they would reissue them, and Glow.

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NouveauDance said:

daPrettyman said:

"Bustin' Out of L Seven" is available on cd. It is out of print, but not that hard to find 2nd hand. Also, "Fire It Up," "Throwin' Down," "Come to my Garden," "Reflections" and "Cold Blooded" are all on cd also.

"Fire It Up" and "Come To My Garden" were recently reissued and should be easy to get.

Cold Blooded is expensive and don't think it was ever reissued, so the sound quality probably isn't all that. I've never seen Thrownin' Down on CD standalone, but I do have the CD release where it's on a single CD with Street Songs - I've seen that really expensive too, but I found it in a second hand record store in the mid-90s for pennies.

Wish they would reissue them, and Glow.

I do too.

I have been looking for Cold Blooded for a while on cd. I refuse to pay a lot of money for a poorly mastered cd. I will stick with the vinyl for now.

The cd I have for Throwin' Down is a 2 fer also.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U42r3bqiaiM

Rick James-Love Gun-absolute fave of his.Has Prince made anything that firing and funky?

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Reply #27 posted 11/11/12 9:49am

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eek OH MY GOD! TOO MUCH RICK! TOO MUCH RICK JAMES!

Haha Prince and Rick hated each other? lol I learn new things everyday

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Reply #28 posted 11/12/12 4:14am

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Thanks vainandy et al for the recommendations - I'll see about tracking them down!
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