Boatloads of people did not get their shirts.

Did this happen more to overseas (as seen from the USA) people?

For any of those that got their T-shirt, I wish you would post a photo of it; I'd like to see what it looks like.

The easiest tactic to end or settle this lawsuit:

Issue a notice for Prince's deposition.

PurpleChi said:

HonestMan13 said:

I give it about 30 minutes before some orger starts crying about $77 & a tee shirt.

And if they do are they wrong? The reality is people did pay their hard earned money and did not get what was promised to them. Should Prince be excused from holding up his end of the bargain because he's Prince? Surely he doesn't want someone taking money from him (and rightfully so). Let's be clear. $116K is probably to Prince what $77 is to the average working person. This may just be karma.

Now, you know that's how some of his fans think, right?

Stymie said:

Now, you know that's how some of his fans think, right?

No, that might be how it is.

He's incapable of running a proper business by himself.

At some point stuff will go bad, way sooner than in other peoples' businesses.

And now mr P has some 'misunderstanding' with another party about (relatively) a similar sum.

The tables have turned a bit...

Prince robbed yall of $77 and a t-shirt?

Beautifulstarr123 said:

Prince robbed yall of $77 and a t-shirt?

:yes:

The website updates ground to a halt after while.

And the t-shirt never arrived.

Same as the Crystall Ball fiasco. (shipping stuff in quantities is nothing for mr Prince)

On and on and on, people claim for the $77, why do people still follow the man, if he's been cheating on them..did those who've lost the 77$ made actions in order to be refunded?

Ok, it's money, ok, though we all are so happy when the man give himself 200% on stage, then, noone says I've paid for an hour, and I got 3hrs...?

When ppl dl his music on whatever the site, noone, says: Hey Mr, I've got you, and I've got so many unreleased sfuff...

actions, reactions,

loss, Gain

Problems, Solutions

DEAR PRINCE, PLEASE PAY BACK THE 77$, for someone's sake

A NEW TITLE

MY 77$ CASH BACK

[Edited 10/25/12 5:44am]

ganesh said:

Ok, it's money, ok, though we all are so happy when the man give himself 200% on stage, then, noone says I've paid for an hour, and I got 3hrs...?

Did you see the 2011 show in Cologne, Germany?

Look up the threads about what happened there.

That clearly showed that the still has issues, at least every now and then.

And yes, I also was in Gent, Belgium in 2011 as well as all three North Sea Jazz shows. Those were different shows.

So it can depend quite a bit...

Well I paid 35.00 to see him in 1988 in Chicago for the Lovesexy Tour and he gave me a show worth $350 /ticket...so I consider myself still ahead in the score!

udo said:

Beautifulstarr123 said:

Prince robbed yall of $77 and a t-shirt?

:yes:

The website updates ground to a halt after while.

And the t-shirt never arrived.

Same as the Crystall Ball fiasco. (shipping stuff in quantities is nothing for mr Prince)

That little..........oh, nevermind

ganesh said:

DEAR PRINCE, PLEASE PAY BACK THE 77$, for someone's sake

A NEW TITLE

MY 77$ CASH BACK

So that you can get your $116K back

Even trade

Prince fans are as principled as Prince himself.

Tremolina said:

Prince fans are as principled as Prince himself.

After reading that Vault PDF thread I was amazed at how theives hate being stolen from. So many hold Prince to being this ultimate human being incapable of any flaw or defect while they are comfortable being base individuals with questionable ethics. Neither is right and neither is wrong but some are hypocrites.

udo said:

ganesh said:

Ok, it's money, ok, though we all are so happy when the man give himself 200% on stage, then, noone says I've paid for an hour, and I got 3hrs...?

Did you see the 2011 show in Cologne, Germany?

Look up the threads about what happened there.

That clearly showed that the still has issues, at least every now and then.

And yes, I also was in Gent, Belgium in 2011 as well as all three North Sea Jazz shows. Those were different shows.

So it can depend quite a bit...

well, am not "lucky" should I say "wealthy" enough lol lol, to follow the man wherever he goes, though, I've been to London, I ve seen several gigantic superb shows in Paris and Arras..Am always pleased and amazed!! I feel soooooooooo happy and sooo gifted when he gives himself to us live!!

Beautifulstarr123 said:

ganesh said:

DEAR PRINCE, PLEASE PAY BACK THE 77$, for someone's sake

A NEW TITLE

MY 77$ CASH BACK

So that you can get your $116K back

Even trade

I ve given titles already, those are only words, words belong to anyone, everyone

though your reply is funny

HonestMan13 said:

Tremolina said:

Prince fans are as principled as Prince himself.

After reading that Vault PDF thread I was amazed at how theives hate being stolen from. So many hold Prince to being this ultimate human being incapable of any flaw or defect while they are comfortable being base individuals with questionable ethics. Neither is right and neither is wrong but some are hypocrites.

Yup. But Prince is a hypocrite too. He "stole" as well. Like most of us here.

It really would be best if we would all stop viewing and calling eachother "thieves", "haters", "asskissers" etc. That just makes things so much more complicated and negative.

This is "the information age" we are living in. "Information", whether it's just your opinion or a valuable piece of music, or a book... All that is "free" as soon as you "release" it...

On the flipside, "information" will dry out, become more expensive or of less quality once there is no viable chance of a "return of investment", nor any appreciation.

So we best all be more friendly towards eachother.

[Edited 10/25/12 11:42am]

We best be more friendly towards eachother. All of us, Prince included.

Tremolina said:

HonestMan13 said:

After reading that Vault PDF thread I was amazed at how theives hate being stolen from. So many hold Prince to being this ultimate human being incapable of any flaw or defect while they are comfortable being base individuals with questionable ethics. Neither is right and neither is wrong but some are hypocrites.

Yup. But Prince is a hypocrite too. He "stole" as well. Like most of us here.

It really would be best if we would all stop viewing and calling eachother "thieves", "haters", "asskissers" etc. That just makes things so much more complicated and negative.

This is "the information age" we are living in. "Information", whether it's just your opinion or a valuable piece of music, or a book... All that is "free" as soon as you "release" it...

On the flipside, "information" will dry out, become more expensive or of less quality once there is no viable chance of a "return of investment", nor any appreciation.

So we best all be more friendly towards eachother.

[Edited 10/25/12 11:42am]

Thank you for your levelheaded thoughts on this topic.

^ At least I "owe" you, Prince, and the rest your bunch that much no?

Tremolina said:

HonestMan13 said:

After reading that Vault PDF thread I was amazed at how theives hate being stolen from. So many hold Prince to being this ultimate human being incapable of any flaw or defect while they are comfortable being base individuals with questionable ethics. Neither is right and neither is wrong but some are hypocrites.

Yup. But Prince is a hypocrite too. He "stole" as well. Like most of us here.

It really would be best if we would all stop viewing and calling eachother "thieves", "haters", "asskissers" etc. That just makes things so much more complicated and negative.

This is "the information age" we are living in. "Information", whether it's just your opinion or a valuable piece of music, or a book... All that is "free" as soon as you "release" it...

On the flipside, "information" will dry out, become more expensive or of less quality once there is no viable chance of a "return of investment", nor any appreciation.

So we best all be more friendly towards eachother.

[Edited 10/25/12 11:42am]

That's my point exactly. We as fans are no more "morally elevated" than Prince and Prince as a musician is no more than us. We're all human. We're all capable of good/bad to varying degrees. I don't hold anyone to a higher expectation of what I myself am capable of. Especially not an individual I only know through song.

[Edited 10/25/12 19:32pm]

Astasheiks said:

For any of those that got their T-shirt, I wish you would post a photo of it; I'd like to see what it looks like.

I got my T-shirt. Still have it. But....... it is too small. Not the size I asked for. Never worn.

I'm glad I didn't get my t-shirt. I don't like it.

I want a pretty style and a symbol in black and gold. Black gold of the sun.

HonestMan13 said:

Tremolina said:

Yup. But Prince is a hypocrite too. He "stole" as well. Like most of us here.

It really would be best if we would all stop viewing and calling eachother "thieves", "haters", "asskissers" etc. That just makes things so much more complicated and negative.

This is "the information age" we are living in. "Information", whether it's just your opinion or a valuable piece of music, or a book... All that is "free" as soon as you "release" it...

On the flipside, "information" will dry out, become more expensive or of less quality once there is no viable chance of a "return of investment", nor any appreciation.

So we best all be more friendly towards eachother.

[Edited 10/25/12 11:42am]

That's my point exactly. We as fans are no more "morally elevated" than Prince and Prince as a musician is no more than us. We're all human. We're all capable of good/bad to varying degrees. I don't hold anyone to a higher expectation of what I myself am capable of. Especially not an individual I only know through song.

[Edited 10/25/12 19:32pm]

Yeah but you called some folks "thieves" too just there: "I was amazed at how thieves hate being stolen from"...

My point is we all need eachother, but calling eachother all these names creates conflict, which is counterproductive, for all of us.

namepeace said:

The easiest tactic to end or settle this lawsuit:

Issue a notice for Prince's deposition.

That's probably one reason why there was a judgement to begin with...he wouldn't or couldn't appear for a depo or at trial. That would have resulted in a default.

But if he's correct that the judgement was subsequently vacated, they shouldn't have garnished his account though.

These are collection law firms that buy cases and judgements from other firms to recovery the money but since they weren't involved in the original case their info is incomplete. I've had several of these where I had to return the garnishment back to the firm because there was no judgement on record.

The error should have been caught before the garnishment was issued.

ganesh said:

Beautifulstarr123 said:

So that you can get your $116K back

Even trade

I ve given titles already, those are only words, words belong to anyone, everyone

though your reply is funny

Well, I hope Prince and his people straighten this mess out.

PopeLeo said:

MrsGoodnight said:

PopeLeo said:

If he paid his bills like the rest of us - without necessitating a court case - then maybe he wouldn't have debt collectors chasing him and taking his money. We all know his track record. And yes, I would like my stupid tshirt that I paid for. That is all.

I'm still trying to figure out how they decided who got shirts and who didn't. I like to think that they held a giant glittery purple tombola event at Paisley Park

I remember when signing up that there was a 'order T-shirt' thingy, I almost, almost missed seeing that.

I miss LotusFlow3r.com & the excitement it was when it launched. Trying to figure out the code. Then getting through to the maze to figure out how to purchase tickets to his mega "MasterPiece" three shows in one night gigs. Then figuring out how to get to the Tonight Show gigs.It was a classic Prince Purple mystery.Then the added bonus a free LotusFlow3r T-Shirt wow!. I couldn't contain my excitement.I was about to go into cardiac arrest.It was like being a kid at Xmas time figuring out one of my new electronic games i got...I LOVED IT. A lot of peeps we're mad about the code. I thought it was genius.

I would do it all over again....

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[Edited 10/28/12 18:20pm]

KCOOLMUZIQ said: