bellanoche said:

If you hate Prince so much, why do you still follow him and his music?

Having gone to all three W2C shows, all three Purple After Jams, and the Andy Allo listening party, I tried to present a balanced review of all the shows I attended - the good and the bad. Yet, the deluge of hostile, negative, and misleading posts that I have seen regarding these shows highlights to me that some of the people need take a break from Prince or leave him alone entirely. It is obvious to me that several Prince “fans” have an idea of who and what Prince should be and their minds are closed to anything else. Their perception of everything he does is filtered through their negative beliefs of him. So no matter how much he tries to do something good or make a right from a wrong, they are unsatisfied. They act as if they created this man in a laboratory and have the right to control his every move. Some people openly hope he loses his JW faith so that they can get him to do the music they want to hear. Some dog his religious and political beliefs with disturbing vitriol. Others don’t like his choice of charities – forget the fact that he is even donating money to charities and helping people out. Really? People hate Larry Graham – a musical legend – because they think he took their Prince away from them. At some point, Prince stopped being human to these people. They want him to be their personal marionette. If he doesn’t do something the way they want it when they want it, he is the scion of Satan. I have never seen anything like this with other artists. I can go to the Santana fan site and see people who are unhappy with certain musical or career moves that he makes. However, there is still a genuine love and respect for him as an artist. It is never anything like this.

Why is it that whenever someone tries to say a positive word about Prince they are referred to as purple Kool-Aid drinking “stans,” and they are mocked for not jumping on the Negative Nancy/Whining Wendy/Psycho Sid bandwagon. It is hilarious to me that I can take breaks from this site for months and return to see the same posters posting negative remarks about everything Prince does. How completely pathetic is that? I could care less about the vast majority of artists out there. As such, I have never visited their fan sites. Yet, some people here have made bashing Prince part of their daily grind. Who does that?

These same people who constantly bash him still listen to albums, watch and listen to bootlegs, read concert reviews, etc. only to tear them and the people who enjoy them apart. What is so funny about these Prince bashers is that they are the sources of some of the most inaccurate information that I have seen. Some of them would have you believe that the W2C shows were a complete disaster; that Prince has lost it; that he just took everyone’s money; that people stormed out; booed, etc. These are some of the same people who predicted that half the arena would be empty and that he wouldn’t be able to do multiple dates in Chicago. Because he proved them wrong, they attempted to mislead folks about what really happened. Thank God I was there. I know what happened at every event.

Actually, if one ventures outside the warped minds of some of these “Prince fans,” you will find that people cannot stop talking about the shows – in a good way. I live in Chicago and people keep telling me how much fun that had at the shows. I went to Ticketmaster to read reviews from people who actually bought tickets and attended the shows, and most of the reviews were between 4 and 5 stars for all the shows. There were several 1 to 3 star votes for Monday’s shows, but overall the reviews were very good. Some of the very things that people complained about on this site were listed as favorite moments by reviewers on Ticketmaster. Yet, some Prince “fans” are still drenching folks in the same old tired bitter downpour that they have been spewing for the last 10 years.

Like I said, it is completely healthy and normal to disagree with things that he does and to share an honest, rational critique or opinion about his music, concerts, style, related artists, etc. It can be a lot of fun to share different perspectives on an artist that people have a shared appreciation for. After all that is what “fans” of an artist do. However, some Prince “fans” have strayed so far left of right that they need an intervention. If you are over Prince, then be over him. It’s cool. However, what reason do you have for still following him only to constantly bash him? Seriously, you need to look into the mirror and ask yourself what compels you to spend so much of your time and energy on someone you cannot stand? If the Prince train has reached its final destination for you, leave the station. After seeing the reactions to the W2C shows, one thing I know is that someone else will gladly take your seat. So, why not go spend your time and energy an artist that you respect and appreciate? It’s ok. To quote another Orger, “You look better gone.”

3121soMUCHfun said:

bellanoche said:

If you hate Prince so much, why do you still follow him and his music?

Having gone to all three W2C shows, all three Purple After Jams, and the Andy Allo listening party, I tried to present a balanced review of all the shows I attended - the good and the bad. Yet, the deluge of hostile, negative, and misleading posts that I have seen regarding these shows highlights to me that some of the people need take a break from Prince or leave him alone entirely. It is obvious to me that several Prince “fans” have an idea of who and what Prince should be and their minds are closed to anything else. Their perception of everything he does is filtered through their negative beliefs of him. So no matter how much he tries to do something good or make a right from a wrong, they are unsatisfied. They act as if they created this man in a laboratory and have the right to control his every move. Some people openly hope he loses his JW faith so that they can get him to do the music they want to hear. Some dog his religious and political beliefs with disturbing vitriol. Others don’t like his choice of charities – forget the fact that he is even donating money to charities and helping people out. Really? People hate Larry Graham – a musical legend – because they think he took their Prince away from them. At some point, Prince stopped being human to these people. They want him to be their personal marionette. If he doesn’t do something the way they want it when they want it, he is the scion of Satan. I have never seen anything like this with other artists. I can go to the Santana fan site and see people who are unhappy with certain musical or career moves that he makes. However, there is still a genuine love and respect for him as an artist. It is never anything like this.

Why is it that whenever someone tries to say a positive word about Prince they are referred to as purple Kool-Aid drinking “stans,” and they are mocked for not jumping on the Negative Nancy/Whining Wendy/Psycho Sid bandwagon. It is hilarious to me that I can take breaks from this site for months and return to see the same posters posting negative remarks about everything Prince does. How completely pathetic is that? I could care less about the vast majority of artists out there. As such, I have never visited their fan sites. Yet, some people here have made bashing Prince part of their daily grind. Who does that?

These same people who constantly bash him still listen to albums, watch and listen to bootlegs, read concert reviews, etc. only to tear them and the people who enjoy them apart. What is so funny about these Prince bashers is that they are the sources of some of the most inaccurate information that I have seen. Some of them would have you believe that the W2C shows were a complete disaster; that Prince has lost it; that he just took everyone’s money; that people stormed out; booed, etc. These are some of the same people who predicted that half the arena would be empty and that he wouldn’t be able to do multiple dates in Chicago. Because he proved them wrong, they attempted to mislead folks about what really happened. Thank God I was there. I know what happened at every event.

Actually, if one ventures outside the warped minds of some of these “Prince fans,” you will find that people cannot stop talking about the shows – in a good way. I live in Chicago and people keep telling me how much fun that had at the shows. I went to Ticketmaster to read reviews from people who actually bought tickets and attended the shows, and most of the reviews were between 4 and 5 stars for all the shows. There were several 1 to 3 star votes for Monday’s shows, but overall the reviews were very good. Some of the very things that people complained about on this site were listed as favorite moments by reviewers on Ticketmaster. Yet, some Prince “fans” are still drenching folks in the same old tired bitter downpour that they have been spewing for the last 10 years.

Like I said, it is completely healthy and normal to disagree with things that he does and to share an honest, rational critique or opinion about his music, concerts, style, related artists, etc. It can be a lot of fun to share different perspectives on an artist that people have a shared appreciation for. After all that is what “fans” of an artist do. However, some Prince “fans” have strayed so far left of right that they need an intervention. If you are over Prince, then be over him. It’s cool. However, what reason do you have for still following him only to constantly bash him? Seriously, you need to look into the mirror and ask yourself what compels you to spend so much of your time and energy on someone you cannot stand? If the Prince train has reached its final destination for you, leave the station. After seeing the reactions to the W2C shows, one thing I know is that someone else will gladly take your seat. So, why not go spend your time and energy an artist that you respect and appreciate? It’s ok. To quote another Orger, “You look better gone.”

This.

To all the haters....

& sit & spin on this...

Can we please this?

Reality of your haters wonm't change because of this.

We will remain critical of what he does.

And, oh yes:

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I am entitled to have an opinion on Prince and his music.

That is the whole idea, having different opinions on a discussion forum right?

R&R Love Affair is terrible, that needs to be said:

And - most of Prince's albums sucks 1996 to 2012.

That does not make me a "hater" -

From For You 1978 to The Gold Exp 1995 he was unbeatable, unstoppable.. a creative force.

I the "old" Prince and will always continue to his output on Warner.

I dig Prince!

purplefingers said:

I dig Prince!

What medicin did you not take?

The man has changed in persona quite a few times.

Has been hostile to fans for a number of timesi n the past decades.

The man has a recording career that spans 30+ years with as many turns and variations through various genres.

And you say you dig Prince.

Now what do you mean?

thedance said:

I am entitled to have an opinion on Prince and his music.

That is the whole idea, having different opinions on a discussion forum right?

R&R Love Affair is terrible, that needs to be said:

And - most of Prince's albums sucks 1996 to 2012.

That does not make me a "hater" -

From For You 1978 to The Gold Exp 1995 he was unbeatable, unstoppable.. a creative force.

I the "old" Prince and will always continue to his output on Warner.

Not to sound mean or a jerk, but why are you on this site so often if you don't like his stuff since then? You know that Prince has moved on to making music that fits his personality now that he has matured, so why would you stay? I'm just trying to get an understanding, not trying to be mean so please don't take it wrong

BigBen said:

thedance said:

I am entitled to have an opinion on Prince and his music.

That is the whole idea, having different opinions on a discussion forum right?

R&R Love Affair is terrible, that needs to be said:

And - most of Prince's albums sucks 1996 to 2012.

That does not make me a "hater" -

From For You 1978 to The Gold Exp 1995 he was unbeatable, unstoppable.. a creative force.

I the "old" Prince and will always continue to his output on Warner.

Not to sound mean or a jerk, but why are you on this site so often if you don't like his stuff since then? You know that Prince has moved on to making music that fits his personality now that he has matured, so why would you stay? I'm just trying to get an understanding, not trying to be mean so please don't take it wrong

Probably because this site is not set up exclusively for fans of his material post '96/whenever, . This site is for everyone and all periods and aspects of his career. I see threads on a regular basis about Prince and his music/career/whatever from the 70's, 80's, 90's and the 2000's. Now I know that a lot of people here have a problem comprehending that, but there you go.

I can't speak for thedance, and I'm not going to, but since this is a public forum, I felt the need to reply to your comment. It's something that I read on here on an almost weekly basis, the "why are you here?" question. It's totally ridiculous. People can't be on this site because they may dislike his material since whenever? Can you not see how childish that sounds?

[Edited 10/30/12 7:57am]

answer to BigBen:

I said "most Albums" sucks since 1996, not all -- but "most" of them.

I like some of the songs,

Musicology

Black Sweat

Future Baby Mama

Laydown

Future Soul Song

to name some of the songs I like.

and some albums like Rainbow Children and Lotus / Mpls, those 3 albums are ok.

I am very "critical" to 1996-2012, true..

but I am here cause I still love 1978-1995 deeply, and I haven't given up totally.....

Not yet.

.

[Edited 10/30/12 8:00am]

bellanoche said:

If you hate Prince so much, why do you still follow him and his music?

Having gone to all three W2C shows, all three Purple After Jams, and the Andy Allo listening party, I tried to present a balanced review of all the shows I attended - the good and the bad. Yet, the deluge of hostile, negative, and misleading posts that I have seen regarding these shows highlights to me that some of the people need take a break from Prince or leave him alone entirely. It is obvious to me that several Prince “fans” have an idea of who and what Prince should be and their minds are closed to anything else. Their perception of everything he does is filtered through their negative beliefs of him. So no matter how much he tries to do something good or make a right from a wrong, they are unsatisfied. They act as if they created this man in a laboratory and have the right to control his every move. Some people openly hope he loses his JW faith so that they can get him to do the music they want to hear. Some dog his religious and political beliefs with disturbing vitriol. Others don’t like his choice of charities – forget the fact that he is even donating money to charities and helping people out. Really? People hate Larry Graham – a musical legend – because they think he took their Prince away from them. At some point, Prince stopped being human to these people. They want him to be their personal marionette. If he doesn’t do something the way they want it when they want it, he is the scion of Satan. I have never seen anything like this with other artists. I can go to the Santana fan site and see people who are unhappy with certain musical or career moves that he makes. However, there is still a genuine love and respect for him as an artist. It is never anything like this.

Why is it that whenever someone tries to say a positive word about Prince they are referred to as purple Kool-Aid drinking “stans,” and they are mocked for not jumping on the Negative Nancy/Whining Wendy/Psycho Sid bandwagon. It is hilarious to me that I can take breaks from this site for months and return to see the same posters posting negative remarks about everything Prince does. How completely pathetic is that? I could care less about the vast majority of artists out there. As such, I have never visited their fan sites. Yet, some people here have made bashing Prince part of their daily grind. Who does that?

These same people who constantly bash him still listen to albums, watch and listen to bootlegs, read concert reviews, etc. only to tear them and the people who enjoy them apart. What is so funny about these Prince bashers is that they are the sources of some of the most inaccurate information that I have seen. Some of them would have you believe that the W2C shows were a complete disaster; that Prince has lost it; that he just took everyone’s money; that people stormed out; booed, etc. These are some of the same people who predicted that half the arena would be empty and that he wouldn’t be able to do multiple dates in Chicago. Because he proved them wrong, they attempted to mislead folks about what really happened. Thank God I was there. I know what happened at every event.

Actually, if one ventures outside the warped minds of some of these “Prince fans,” you will find that people cannot stop talking about the shows – in a good way. I live in Chicago and people keep telling me how much fun that had at the shows. I went to Ticketmaster to read reviews from people who actually bought tickets and attended the shows, and most of the reviews were between 4 and 5 stars for all the shows. There were several 1 to 3 star votes for Monday’s shows, but overall the reviews were very good. Some of the very things that people complained about on this site were listed as favorite moments by reviewers on Ticketmaster. Yet, some Prince “fans” are still drenching folks in the same old tired bitter downpour that they have been spewing for the last 10 years.

Like I said, it is completely healthy and normal to disagree with things that he does and to share an honest, rational critique or opinion about his music, concerts, style, related artists, etc. It can be a lot of fun to share different perspectives on an artist that people have a shared appreciation for. After all that is what “fans” of an artist do. However, some Prince “fans” have strayed so far left of right that they need an intervention. If you are over Prince, then be over him. It’s cool. However, what reason do you have for still following him only to constantly bash him? Seriously, you need to look into the mirror and ask yourself what compels you to spend so much of your time and energy on someone you cannot stand? If the Prince train has reached its final destination for you, leave the station. After seeing the reactions to the W2C shows, one thing I know is that someone else will gladly take your seat. So, why not go spend your time and energy an artist that you respect and appreciate? It’s ok. To quote another Orger, “You look better gone.”

Well said.

You know, with most of the "haters" it's not even so much what they are saying, as it is how they say it.

I have had many a debate with people here at the org that has had a position/opinion nearly opposite of mine.

Yet, they are able to discuss/argue/chat in a way that is respectful, polite and (most importantly) actually enables me to better see their point of view.

udo said:

purplefingers said:

I dig Prince!

What medicin did you not take?

The man has changed in persona quite a few times.

Has been hostile to fans for a number of timesi n the past decades.

The man has a recording career that spans 30+ years with as many turns and variations through various genres.

And you say you dig Prince.

Now what do you mean?

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

To all the haters....

define a "hater", silly you

a Prince fan who loves to rock to the "Let's Go Crazy" 12 inch.

but can't sit through the recent crap of "R & R Love Affair" without falling asleep.

Is this a "hater"...?

-- hell no, it's a fan speaking his/ hers honest opinion...

Bitchin' about the Bitches... double-standards anyone?

'dre

DreZone said:

Bitchin' about the Bitches... double-standards anyone?

'dre

Have to keep a balance in the (purple) force.