THE NEW KING OF THE STAGE

^^^That is an AWESOME pic! And those glasses don't look so ridiulous! Was this one in our tour book?

Oh yes, and I would definitely without a doubt, 100% purchase a Welcome 2 Chicago DVD.

Didn't we just download that DVD?

ganesh said:

If it's not a "bootleg" and good quality of course I would

So if mr P were to press 'bootleg' material onto DVD, would you pay?

NouveauDance said:

Nah, not really interested in watching newer shows. I'd lap up vintage shows in a heartbeat though.

iloveannie said:

I'm not really into watching concerts to be honest. I like being at concerts but watching them on telly just doesn't grip me. I would probably listen to it as I wondered about the house but I can't see me sitting down to watch it. Not Prince, not anybody. Although I have watched bits from concerts I've been to in the hope of seeing myself (Isle of Wight for instance) and I also watched half an hour of Bellowhead on Sky Arts HD last week.

I can dig that, I've never been a huge live audio/video buff myself, but the SOTT movie is really great - spellbinding even - most of it isn't even live, it's shot at PP, so it's like a longform music video with audience reaction shots if anything.

Oh God, I spent so many afternoons as a kid watching the SOTT movie video, turning up late for R.E. or geography - Thanks Prince, I could've had an education in something other than neon green skirt-snatching and pink fur coat wearing!

Okay, I'm painting the lounge (cutting-in actually) and have just finished watching/listening to Sign o the Times whilst I did it. I admit it. It was excellent. I'm envious of those that attended those shows, all I've seen were three gigs at the O2 and one aftershow. The difference is quite staggering. Such energy. Highlights were Housequake, Beautiful Night and The Cross. Awesome isn't a word I like to use as my evangelical sister and her family tend to overuse it but in the case of the latter two songs I mentioned I think it applies.

Thanks Nouveau x

udo said:

ganesh said:

If it's not a "bootleg" and good quality of course I would

So if mr P were to press 'bootleg' material onto DVD, would you pay?

Question: If Prince presses bootlegs, would they still be called bootlegs?

I meant if it's good material yes..

Am willing to listen to all live version of Prince's music, if he had released, I would have paid for them, yes..but he doesn't really do that..too bad

Whereas, Prince needs to be aware that his fans definetely prefer him live, well I do

ganesh said:

udo said:

So if mr P were to press 'bootleg' material onto DVD, would you pay?

Question: If Prince presses bootlegs, would they still be called bootlegs?

I guess not. Look up what Zappa did.

I meant if it's good material yes..

Am willing to listen to all live version of Prince's music, if he had released, I would have paid for them, yes..but he doesn't really do that..too bad

Whereas, Prince needs to be aware that his fans definetely prefer him live, well I do

He can't allow those imperfect recordings to be released unedited.

They do need overdubs, corrections, edits, and whatever.

udo said:

ganesh said:

I guess not. Look up what Zappa did.

I meant if it's good material yes..

Am willing to listen to all live version of Prince's music, if he had released, I would have paid for them, yes..but he doesn't really do that..too bad

Whereas, Prince needs to be aware that his fans definetely prefer him live, well I do

He can't allow those imperfect recordings to be released unedited.

They do need overdubs, corrections, edits, and whatever.

I do like the word "overdubs"

I'd buy live DVD's to all of his tours.

Not sure why Prince bemoans bootleggers, yet doesn't put out his own stuff.

It seems like a very basic way to build the fan base and get more people interested in going to see him/buy his albums.

skywalker said:

Not sure why Prince bemoans bootleggers, yet doesn't put out his own stuff.

Possible reasons would include:

- Perfectionism: doesn't allow supposedly flawed material published

- Incompetence: due to contractual mishappenings the materials aren't released

- Misunderstanding: someone doesn't understand markets

- Greed: the works would not yield enough yet

- Conscience: does not allow works with supposedly `naughty` lyrics published

- etc

udo said:

skywalker said:

Not sure why Prince bemoans bootleggers, yet doesn't put out his own stuff.

Possible reasons would include:

- Perfectionism: doesn't allow supposedly flawed material published

- Incompetence: due to contractual mishappenings the materials aren't released

- Misunderstanding: someone doesn't understand markets

- Greed: the works would not yield enough yet

- Conscience: does not allow works with supposedly `naughty` lyrics published

- etc

- Laziness. He doesn't want to spend the time to work on it.

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buy it - probably

watch it - once maybe twice

dust collector - highly likely

prefer over earlier bootlegged concerts - high unlikely

jstar69 said:

prefer over earlier bootlegged concerts - high unlikely

Indeed, do you see the Prince of today promoting footage of his own self of around e.g. 1980?

ludwig said:

udo said:

Possible reasons would include:

- Perfectionism: doesn't allow supposedly flawed material published

- Incompetence: due to contractual mishappenings the materials aren't released

- Misunderstanding: someone doesn't understand markets

- Greed: the works would not yield enough yet

- Conscience: does not allow works with supposedly `naughty` lyrics published

- etc

- Laziness. He doesn't want to spend the time to work on it.

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That's the thing. He doesn't have to. It's there he just needs to hire (there are probably those that create quality bootlegs that'd volunteer) someone to compile the footage, and add a slick dvd menu. Boom. Done. I'll paypal Prince $15 to send it to me in the mail. Cannot be that difficult.

There are commericals for DVD collections that are simply footage of model trains. If those folks can produce/make money find the market for that, then Prince has no excuse.

SEXUALCHOCOLATE said:

Prince, save it for 21 Nights at the Sydney Opera House. THAT would be a DVD worth releasing!

Join the campaign here folks www.facebook.com/prince21nightsinsydney

[Edited 10/1/12 6:22am]

SEXUALCHOCOLATE said:

Prince, save it for 21 Nights at the Sydney Opera House. THAT would be a DVD worth releasing!

One of the complaints was that cutting up 21 shows to fill one CD/DVD/BD/etc is a waste.

Besides, the Concert Hall `seating` has a capcity of 2,679. That is a bit small, aside of the `seated` issue.

Join the campaign here folks www.facebook.com/prince21nightsinsydney

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Didn't ya know yet that failbook is a privacy risk?

As well as a stocks scam? (price & voting rights)

funkyhead said:

He clearly just needs to go away for at least a year, sack the Welcome 2 concept,

He's still calling his "band" (and that is a word that is only technically correct, since IMHO the people on stage do NOT play in the same band; they're hired help) NPG. A term that's been around since 1988, and the name of his band since 1991. That name should have been dropped when Michael and Sonny got kicked out.

If he can't be arsed to drop that name, he won't stop doing the Welcome 2 gigs.

udo said:

ganesh said:

I guess not. Look up what Zappa did.

I meant if it's good material yes..

Am willing to listen to all live version of Prince's music, if he had released, I would have paid for them, yes..but he doesn't really do that..too bad

Whereas, Prince needs to be aware that his fans definetely prefer him live, well I do

He can't allow those imperfect recordings to be released unedited.

They do need overdubs, corrections, edits, and whatever.

You obviously do not remember that Prince once sold VHS-copies of "taped from Japanese tv" specials. Or that the NPG Music Club once had a download of "Horny Pony" that was ripped from a cassette tape.

ever ownd

BartVanHemelen said:

udo said:

You obviously do not remember that Prince once sold VHS-copies of "taped from Japanese tv" specials. Or that the NPG Music Club once had a download of "Horny Pony" that was ripped from a cassette tape.

I never owned a tape-based video recorder.

I still am more into discs.

Also: I mean first releases of stuff, of performances.

Your examples do indeed show flaws in the flaws-policy but the media used were pretty low-res to begin with; also those were not first-releases, masters.

Today we would be looking at least at a DVD-9 with high-bitrate video/audio if not a BluRay with a full, unedited show with perhaps some behind the scenes and/or soundcheck material.

That will never happen.

MaddMaxx said:

I wouldn't buy it. When he tours with new music, or he does a B-Sides and Bootlegs tour, I'd happily buy a ticket to multiple shows wherever they are, and buy the DVD. I'm not spending my money to hear this tired ass set-list.

Sadly, Prince concerts have become like the iPhone. Every eighteen months or so, he announces a new one. You're excited about the announcement, you eagerly anticipate it, you get it, and then you realize that it's 99.99% exactly the same as the last one. Why bother? If he's too lazy to modify the setlist, or too jaded by religious dogma to play the hot stuff from his canon, I'll keep my money in my pocket or spend it on artists without unnecessary, self-imposed shackles and limitations.

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I agree - the setlist needs to be totally revamped. Hell, EVERYTHING needs to be changed up. The "symbol" stage is getting a little tired now, as well as the cover songs and the "sampler". He talks about "I got too many hits!" yet he wastes setlist time singing other people's hits. Also, I'm sick of the acoustic vesion of "Little Red Corvette". That was fine for awhile, now I'd rather hear the original with the synths and the guitar.

funkyhead said:

He clearly just needs to go away for at least a year, sack the Welcome 2 concept, put together an album of 10 world class tracks and put together a proper tour - i just do not get how hard that is for him to do.

Honestly, I think the days of him producing "world class tracks" are probably gone, let alone expecting him to do 10.

I think his next tour should just be a greatest hits tour, because lets face it - that's what most people want to hear. Most people have heard enough of all the random album tracks, non-hits, and cover songs over the last several years and he needs to go back to basics.

Diana80 said:

MaddMaxx said:

I wouldn't buy it. When he tours with new music, or he does a B-Sides and Bootlegs tour, I'd happily buy a ticket to multiple shows wherever they are, and buy the DVD. I'm not spending my money to hear this tired ass set-list.

Sadly, Prince concerts have become like the iPhone. Every eighteen months or so, he announces a new one. You're excited about the announcement, you eagerly anticipate it, you get it, and then you realize that it's 99.99% exactly the same as the last one. Why bother? If he's too lazy to modify the setlist, or too jaded by religious dogma to play the hot stuff from his canon, I'll keep my money in my pocket or spend it on artists without unnecessary, self-imposed shackles and limitations.

[Edited 9/28/12 11:24am]

I agree - the setlist needs to be totally revamped. Hell, EVERYTHING needs to be changed up. The "symbol" stage is getting a little tired now, as well as the cover songs and the "sampler". He talks about "I got too many hits!" yet he wastes setlist time singing other people's hits. Also, I'm sick of the acoustic vesion of "Little Red Corvette". That was fine for awhile, now I'd rather hear the original with the synths and the guitar.I,myself would love too see a Blu Ray and Dvd of Prince in concert with him playing the same songs but changing the setlist and playing other songs,too.I hope he plays more dates this year and film them and release them.Long overdue!