LiveToTell86 said:

jayARDAHB said:

Radio was 'controlled' back in the 80s and 90s too but to neglect the fact that you often need a good song to get over is an attempt to make another excuse for Prince isn't it?

While Prince was all over the charts during the 80s and early 90s, Warner Bros. were paying stations to play material as well.

While I'm not much of a fan of radio music these days, it certainly doesn't mean that there aren't any artists out there who are having commercial success all the while writing songs with great melodies, great lyrics and great/intriguing music.

I know radio was controlled back then as well (obviously, there's always more music produced than available airtime!) but I don't see how it's an excuse for Prince.

Just because you coincidentally think a song is good that gets played on the radio, that doesn't mean it's played "because it's good, is catchy, has great message" etc. Those are different qualities that have nothing to do with the popularity contest. Do you think if Prince had written and performed "Call Me Maybe", it would have been a hit?

It's a catchy song isn't it? However, had Prince written and PERFORMED that song, we'd all be a bit worried as the song's lyrics are from the perspective of a young girl/woman seeking a boy she's attracted.

For obvious reasons, people wouldn't connect with Prince, a 53 year old man singing about courting a young man.

This is another poor example of critical thinking here at the org.

People stilll have a place in their hearts for Prince - the proof is when he goes on tour and the casual fan shows up. People still remember how his music made them feel during the 80s. With that in mind, if Prince could put together a song that mattered to more than just the org, it'd be something that an older audience would eat up. The problem is that Prince doesn't appear to have it in him anymore to write that song - the one that captures an idea or moment that also captures us.

LiveToTell86 said:

jayARDAHB said:

Radio was 'controlled' back in the 80s and 90s too but to neglect the fact that you often need a good song to get over is an attempt to make another excuse for Prince isn't it?

While Prince was all over the charts during the 80s and early 90s, Warner Bros. were paying stations to play material as well.

While I'm not much of a fan of radio music these days, it certainly doesn't mean that there aren't any artists out there who are having commercial success all the while writing songs with great melodies, great lyrics and great/intriguing music.

I know radio was controlled back then as well (obviously, there's always more music produced than available airtime!) but I don't see how it's an excuse for Prince.

Just because you coincidentally think a song is good that gets played on the radio, that doesn't mean it's played "because it's good, is catchy, has great message" etc. Those are different qualities that have nothing to do with the popularity contest. Do you think if Prince had written and performed "Call Me Maybe", it would have been a hit?

I don't know, but this seems like an appropriate place to post this:

luv4u said:

His music has been played on radio stations that play hits from back in the day.

i was going to say the same

I hear When Doves Cry Lets Go Crazy Take Me With U Purple Rain I Would Die 4 U Rasberry Beret 1999 Little Red Corvette Kiss and some other on stations like that all the time

I was thinking about sending in a disc of music of his and see if they would play it

Didn't 2 Chainz have the #1 record the other week. That should answer your question quite nicely....okay that was not very nice but essentially radio is done with him on the commercial level. That is fine by me. The only reason I ever liked him on radio when I was younger was because I wanted people to be exposed to his unlimited talent but for me this "system" or format to get your record played never - fit - an artist like Prince anyway. I think all of us would be blown away to know what someone like the Beyonces, Rick Ross, Lil Wayne, and Drakes of the world have to actually "do" to have their records played ad nauseum. All I can say is holding on to your "soul" just may be a little bit more important in the long run.

Why would he want 2 be on a DEAD medium?

jayARDAHB said:

LiveToTell86 said:

Correction: being on radio means there is a major label behind the act who pumps money into him/her and the radio programmers decide the artist is for their target audience who will hear them commercials. Radio is controlled and the quality or the message of the song has nothing to do with it.

Radio was 'controlled' back in the 80s and 90s too but to neglect the fact that you often need a good song to get over is an attempt to make another excuse for Prince isn't it?

While Prince was all over the charts during the 80s and early 90s, Warner Bros. were paying stations to play material as well.

While I'm not much of a fan of radio music these days, it certainly doesn't mean that there aren't any artists out there who are having commercial success all the while writing songs with great melodies, great lyrics and great/intriguing music.

Radio is WAAAAY more controlled now. More stations are owned by fewer corporations than ever before.

It's still a viable format as it is free and almost everyone has one. But, as long as the content is controlled by so few, very little worth listening to will be broadcast.

djThunderfunk said:

jayARDAHB said:

Radio was 'controlled' back in the 80s and 90s too but to neglect the fact that you often need a good song to get over is an attempt to make another excuse for Prince isn't it?

While Prince was all over the charts during the 80s and early 90s, Warner Bros. were paying stations to play material as well.

While I'm not much of a fan of radio music these days, it certainly doesn't mean that there aren't any artists out there who are having commercial success all the while writing songs with great melodies, great lyrics and great/intriguing music.

Radio is WAAAAY more controlled now. More stations are owned by fewer corporations than ever before.

It's still a viable format as it is free and almost everyone has one. But, as long as the content is controlled by so few, very little worth listening to will be broadcast.

It is NOT free 2 get played.

Graycap23 said:

djThunderfunk said:

Radio is WAAAAY more controlled now. More stations are owned by fewer corporations than ever before.

It's still a viable format as it is free and almost everyone has one. But, as long as the content is controlled by so few, very little worth listening to will be broadcast.

It is NOT free 2 get played.

Of course not. That's the problem, no?

I meant, that it is free for the listener. You don't have to pay for the signal coming to your reciever.

With the current state of the industry (so few owning so many stations), you get what you pay for.

djThunderfunk said:

Graycap23 said:

It is NOT free 2 get played.

Of course not. That's the problem, no?

I meant, that it is free for the listener. You don't have to pay for the signal coming to your reciever.

With the current state of the industry (so few owning so many stations), you get what you pay for.

Why spend money 2 have your joint played? It is not a good investment 4 independent artists in 2012.

Graycap23 said:

djThunderfunk said:

Of course not. That's the problem, no?

I meant, that it is free for the listener. You don't have to pay for the signal coming to your reciever.

With the current state of the industry (so few owning so many stations), you get what you pay for.

Why spend money 2 have your joint played? It is not a good investment 4 independent artists in 2012.

I... agree with you...

By "you get what you pay for", I mean, the listener pays nothing, which, since the radio plays crap, is exactly what the programing on most radio is worth, nothing.

djThunderfunk said:

jayARDAHB said:

Radio was 'controlled' back in the 80s and 90s too but to neglect the fact that you often need a good song to get over is an attempt to make another excuse for Prince isn't it?

While Prince was all over the charts during the 80s and early 90s, Warner Bros. were paying stations to play material as well.

While I'm not much of a fan of radio music these days, it certainly doesn't mean that there aren't any artists out there who are having commercial success all the while writing songs with great melodies, great lyrics and great/intriguing music.

Radio is WAAAAY more controlled now. More stations are owned by fewer corporations than ever before.

It's still a viable format as it is free and almost everyone has one. But, as long as the content is controlled by so few, very little worth listening to will be broadcast.

It's unfortunate isn't it?

Good songs still make it through the cracks though - Prince's contacts in the industry can get his music played but he just doesn't have the tracks these days.

He hasn't written anything as majestic as Little Red Corvette or quirky as When Doves Cry or funky as Kiss in a long long time.

However, he still yearns for the love of the public. RR Affair was another poor attempt at getting heard - those lyrics and that clean production make it hard to listen to. I like the music though.

RNR Affair debuted at # 22 on The Adult Contemporary charts

http://www.billboard.com/...6492.story

No, all he has is his fanbase, and that is eroding due to his fanatical approach to us.