OzlemUcucu said:

NouveauDance said:

This article is prove Prince is reading the Org. He's answering all of the questions that have been raised here. It's like a Q&A with orgers. This piece needs some proper analysis. Somebody go first please...there is a lot of stuff going on...I'll attempt later.

Yeah, that's it. Couldn't possibly be Greg Kot doing a bit research first.

electricberet said:

2elijah said:

This is the part of the article I liked the most. He made a good point about changing the setlist each night while on tour, makes it more challenging for the band members as well.

Interesting. That may explain why there has been no Prince and the Revolution reunion tour and probably never will be.

I doubt financially a Revolution reunion would work. Prince now has hired musicians, the tix for a Revolution would be high guessing in the $200 range sure enough but I bet the Revolution would want a massive payday vs. having a day job. In other words, you wouldbn't see W/L or Fink selling Bee products on the side or working as parking lot attendant at PP.

NouveauDance said:

I got nothing from that other than the usual guff and brown nosing. Doesn't anyone dare ask him any interesting questions for fear of being banished in a puff of purple smoke?

ROLLING STONE (1990)

Finally, there is one more philosophy unchanged with the years. "I play music," Prince has said. "I make records. I make movies. I don't do interviews."

So what are we doing? "We're just talking," he says. Hence, his decision not to be taped or allow notes to be taken or even a pad of questions to be brought out. That would inhibit him, he says; that would mean doing the thing that he just doesn't do.

No, Prince vows, he isn't trying to be a purposeful pain. What he says he simply wants to avoid is "that big Q followed by that big A, followed by line after line of me either defending myself or cleaning up stories that people have told about me."

No matter what he might say in a traditional interview, Prince continues, he'd only end up looking ridiculous. "Some magazine a little while ago promised me their cover if I answered five written questions," he says. "The first one was 'What are your exact beliefs about God?' Now how can I answer that without sounding like a fool?"

True. But isn't he afraid of being misquoted? No, he says softly, staring at the holstered tape recorder on the table before him. When Prince says no, with pursed lips and a slight shake of the head, it carries a certain finality.

...

"And you really would feel better having your words taken down the second you say them?"

"No."

Okay.

PRINCE TALKS

BY NEAL KARLEN

OldFriends4Sale said:

electricberet said:

Interesting. That may explain why there has been no Prince and the Revolution reunion tour and probably never will be.

I wouldn't say that's why, since the PR tour was not his last with the Revolution. Parade was and Parade was seriously much looser, this is also the period where After Shows & After Parties began.

Also during his Rave period? There would have been a Revolution reunion if the Roadhouse Garden album happened.

I read that quote by Prince before, and it doesn't make sense, since he could have changed the show up however he wanted to, surrounding the PR songs.

Has any of his shows prior to that or even after at times been set lists changed up all the time? Didn't SOTT follow an even tighter format, Lovesexy didn't divert from the Sin2Salvation flow and many tours after that.

I never got Prince and his issues with the PR tour, going thru set lists of PR shows, it was not the same every night. And this is still when Prince previewed new songs like America (14min live workouts), Condition of the Heart, the Ladder etc And the off shows showed the diversity that could have been played like the 1983 Benefit Show, the 1984 Birthday show, and so many songs in his back catalogue that could have been added removed changed shifted

the era that he seems to run away from, is the one he worked hard to make happen, the one that the foundation for his life in 2012 still

He could but he only released 6 albums at that point. Few years later he had a lot more songs to choose from, now he has tons of music to choose from. I just think the quote is more like a musician comparing his best know band vs. his latest band. Of course Prince will say his newest band is better in ways than his best know biggest touring band ever. This is no different that what Axl Rose would do. I wouldn't expect them to say the opposite! Hype.

A very well-written article - in which Prince sounds almost normal. Well done all around!

OldFriends4Sale said:

electricberet said:

Interesting. That may explain why there has been no Prince and the Revolution reunion tour and probably never will be.

I wouldn't say that's why, since the PR tour was not his last with the Revolution. Parade was and Parade was seriously much looser, this is also the period where After Shows & After Parties began.

Also during his Rave period? There would have been a Revolution reunion if the Roadhouse Garden album happened.

I read that quote by Prince before, and it doesn't make sense, since he could have changed the show up however he wanted to, surrounding the PR songs.

Has any of his shows prior to that or even after at times been set lists changed up all the time? Didn't SOTT follow an even tighter format, Lovesexy didn't divert from the Sin2Salvation flow and many tours after that.

I never got Prince and his issues with the PR tour, going thru set lists of PR shows, it was not the same every night. And this is still when Prince previewed new songs like America (14min live workouts), Condition of the Heart, the Ladder etc And the off shows showed the diversity that could have been played like the 1983 Benefit Show, the 1984 Birthday show, and so many songs in his back catalogue that could have been added removed changed shifted

the era that he seems to run away from, is the one he worked hard to make happen, the one that the foundation for his life in 2012 still

I can definitely understand Prince's issues with the Purple Rain tour. Prince fans have created threads about the way he should WEAR his damn hair for concerts (see the many threads about his afro). I think he was also talking about doing the same choreography and performing the scenes from Purple Rain movie to keep his fans entertained night after night. PR was his most anticipated tour and it's interesting to read how he felt trapped by casual fans' expectations .

EyeJester7 said:

If there is not one thing I learned; is that Prince is about love and compassion. Now he always is going to bring that back to God. He has been a Jehovah's Witness now for 2 decades, and the focus is more about the Kingdom Hall, and the New Living Translation, but in summary he knows pure love is what we all long for. Regardless of association, love for one another is the only way.

One of my favorite parts of this article was this. (Snippet)

"The world is so jagged, I like smooth waves. It's the way I live now. When Larry (Graham) first came around here (in the '90s) we had a lot of crazy people in here. Now, no one argues, no one swears, no one smokes, no one talks harsh. We all enjoy each other. You don't know what that's like till you start living like that, because for a long time I didn't. It was affecting me up here (points to his head), which in turn affected me here (points to throat). I changed the way I operate. A lot of my contemporaries didn't. That's the reason I'm still here, and a lot of them aren't."

^^ Here he seems positioned to change, I mean he needed a calm, and apparently he has that now, and what is so wrong with that?

I think it is also good to know he is very much involved with his band!

Prince, we love you man! Keep serving us smiles, and joy...That is why we respect and look up to you, because of the joy that is brought through the music!

(Bolded part) I agree, and I think that's what bothers a lot of fans because they want him to be back in a place where he stetes in that interview, there wasn't any real 'calm' for him in his life during the mid 80s/90s, even though he was at the height of his success in the mid 80s, and has already accomplished that, but after awhile, during the Purple Rain era, from what he stated in that interview seemed like he admitted, that something was missing in his life and he needed to find out what that was.

These days, he seems to be more at peace playing the kind of music he wants. Working with various musicians/artists he enjoys, and not feeling he has to live up to the Purple Rain days or the days or being pigeon-holed into staying/working with the same band members from the 80s or 90s for the rest of his music career.

After all, he adds and invites other musicians/artists to perform with him on stage and adds new members to his band when he tours. I think some fans who wish he kept the Revolution members may not understand that, that may be what they want, vbut may not be what he wants in his life right now, so those fas will just have to go in their music catalogue, and bring those memories back for themselves. It's not like he's never invited some of his former band members from those eras to join him on stage or participate in a jam session at Paisley Park. Cool interview though.

[Edited 9/21/12 8:37am]

Prince also had a song better than "Purple Rain" it was called "Gold"

Cool interview and some great insights into where his heads at in this stage of his career

"Only a few days left," he says, almost to himself.

Yes!

2020 said:

Cool interview and some great insights into where his heads at in this stage of his career

Agree, and I think the bolded part of your post, is where you hit it on point, but I think a lot of fans still won't get it, even with the words coming from his own mouth as to how he feels, wants and chooses how he handles his music career today and things in his personal life. It is apparent he likes moving forward, and not feeling limited/pigeon-hold, and by playing the kind of music he wants, whether it's covers, some classics from his past or a few new tracks, and makes it clear he enjoys working with his current band members, and adding new ones every once in a while, even if its temporary. I guess one can say, that at the end of the day, only Prince knows what he wants from his music career and his personal life.

[Edited 9/21/12 9:31am]

SuperFurryAnimal said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

I wouldn't say that's why, since the PR tour was not his last with the Revolution. Parade was and Parade was seriously much looser, this is also the period where After Shows & After Parties began.

Also during his Rave period? There would have been a Revolution reunion if the Roadhouse Garden album happened.

I read that quote by Prince before, and it doesn't make sense, since he could have changed the show up however he wanted to, surrounding the PR songs.

Has any of his shows prior to that or even after at times been set lists changed up all the time? Didn't SOTT follow an even tighter format, Lovesexy didn't divert from the Sin2Salvation flow and many tours after that.

I never got Prince and his issues with the PR tour, going thru set lists of PR shows, it was not the same every night. And this is still when Prince previewed new songs like America (14min live workouts), Condition of the Heart, the Ladder etc And the off shows showed the diversity that could have been played like the 1983 Benefit Show, the 1984 Birthday show, and so many songs in his back catalogue that could have been added removed changed shifted

the era that he seems to run away from, is the one he worked hard to make happen, the one that the foundation for his life in 2012 still

He could but he only released 6 albums at that point. Few years later he had a lot more songs to choose from, now he has tons of music to choose from. I just think the quote is more like a musician comparing his best know band vs. his latest band. Of course Prince will say his newest band is better in ways than his best know biggest touring band ever. This is no different that what Axl Rose would do. I wouldn't expect them to say the opposite! Hype.

Yeah he has tones to choose from and in 2012 your still going to get a lot of what was on the PR tour: and covers(with someone with such an extensive collection of music should never need 2 cover)

That's still alot for Prince For U, Prince, Dirty Mind, Controversy, 1999(double) and all the Bsides and PR outtakes. Prince also was/is a control freak still then it was at a high. He was still finding himself as a stageman. But again if you check out the SOTT shows they were extremely the same, even down to Sheila E's drum solo being the same runs mostly.

I hear you though. He's done the same since 1985 yes

November 11. 1984
Joe Louis Arena Detroit, Michigan

1. Let's Go Crazy
2. Delirious
3. 1999
4. Little Red Corvette
5. Yankee Doodle Dandy
6. Free
7. Father's Song*
8. God
9. Computer Blue
10. Darling Nikki
11. The Beautiful Ones
12. When Doves Cry
13. I Would Die 4 U
14. Baby I'm A Star
15. Purple Rain

March 1. 1985
Daly City Cow Palace San Francisco

1.Let's Go Crazy
2.Delirious
3.1999
4.Little Red Corvette
5.Take Me With U
6.When You Were Mine
7.Head
8.Father's Song
9.A Case Of You *
10.Still Waiting *
11.Iresistible Bitch
12.Condition Of The Heart
13.Do Me, Baby
14.Temptation
15.Let's Pretend We're Married
16.International Lover
17.God
13.Computer Blue
14.Darling Nikki
15.The Beautiful Ones
16.When Doves Cry
17.I Would Die 4 U
18.Baby I'm A Star
19.Purple Rain

He had even less songs for 1999 but didn't say he felt that for that tour.

I think he was just having a hard time with the magnitude of the PR period.

OldFriends4Sale said:

I hear you though. He's done the same since 1985 yes

November 11. 1984
Joe Louis Arena Detroit, Michigan

1. Let's Go Crazy
2. Delirious
3. 1999
4. Little Red Corvette
5. Yankee Doodle Dandy
6. Free
7. Father's Song*
8. God
9. Computer Blue
10. Darling Nikki
11. The Beautiful Ones
12. When Doves Cry
13. I Would Die 4 U
14. Baby I'm A Star
15. Purple Rain

March 1. 1985
Daly City Cow Palace San Francisco

1.Let's Go Crazy
2.Delirious
3.1999
4.Little Red Corvette
5.Take Me With U
6.When You Were Mine
7.Head
8.Father's Song
9.A Case Of You *
10.Still Waiting *
11.Iresistible Bitch
12.Condition Of The Heart
13.Do Me, Baby
14.Temptation
15.Let's Pretend We're Married
16.International Lover
17.God
13.Computer Blue
14.Darling Nikki
15.The Beautiful Ones
16.When Doves Cry
17.I Would Die 4 U
18.Baby I'm A Star
19.Purple Rain

He had even less songs for 1999 but didn't say he felt that for that tour.

I think he was just having a hard time with the magnitude of the PR period.

I know exactly. P really never drew a line in the sand and quit playing the hits, not for too long. Us oldies know how long that lasted and the reaction during Gold Era.

I know even "indie" artists that had 10 or so singles which were hits in the "indie" world and they reach a point where they will only play new music moving forward out of boredom. Prince continues to play PR era music.

[Edited 9/21/12 8:52am]

Then he dials up a YouTube video

No wonder he thinks the internet is dead.

I love the first half of the interview a lot. I only want to read about Prince creating music, talking about creating music, and talking about rehearsing. I never ever ever ever want to read an interview where he's asked about religion, politics, current affairs, history, conspiracy theories, UFOs, or even the weather ever again. Ever.

bashraka said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

I wouldn't say that's why, since the PR tour was not his last with the Revolution. Parade was and Parade was seriously much looser, this is also the period where After Shows & After Parties began.

Also during his Rave period? There would have been a Revolution reunion if the Roadhouse Garden album happened.

I read that quote by Prince before, and it doesn't make sense, since he could have changed the show up however he wanted to, surrounding the PR songs.

Has any of his shows prior to that or even after at times been set lists changed up all the time? Didn't SOTT follow an even tighter format, Lovesexy didn't divert from the Sin2Salvation flow and many tours after that.

I never got Prince and his issues with the PR tour, going thru set lists of PR shows, it was not the same every night. And this is still when Prince previewed new songs like America (14min live workouts), Condition of the Heart, the Ladder etc And the off shows showed the diversity that could have been played like the 1983 Benefit Show, the 1984 Birthday show, and so many songs in his back catalogue that could have been added removed changed shifted

the era that he seems to run away from, is the one he worked hard to make happen, the one that the foundation for his life in 2012 still

I can definitely understand Prince's issues with the Purple Rain tour. Prince fans have created threads about the way he should WEAR his damn hair for concerts (see the many threads about his afro). I think he was also talking about doing the same choreography and performing the scenes from Purple Rain movie to keep his fans entertained night after night. PR was his most anticipated tour and it's interesting to read how he felt trapped by casual fans' expectations .

I think what he thought the fans wanted during the PR tour vs 2012 people talking about his afro is much different. He didn't have message board in 1984 to know what the casual fan was expecting lol

compare some of the PR shows to the loosness of the 1983 Benefit show & 1984 Birthday show

He never even performed Erotic City on the tour, it seemed when it came to the previous albums he on chose mostly 'the hits' but still had so much he could have performed from each album
Uptown Head Sexuality Private Joy Bambi Sexy Dancer All the Critics Love U

didn't he do just about the same choreography for the SOTT & Lovesexy tour just about?

adding different songs and I don't think the choreography was that huge that he didn't have to keep things the same all the time.

But I understand he was prob feeling the weight of his success at that time, but most likely the trapped mindset was his doing, Prince could have done anything at those concerts at that time and fans would have eaten it up. he went from being mildly being able to travel without being mobbed to needing protection from being mobbed. But that's what he worked 4ward to, you can't become a superstar of that magnitude without it. He wouldn't be where he is without it. I remember reading something by Dez about talking to Prince about going somewhere casual and Prince sorta dropped his head and said 'those days are over'

UTCM movie their was no band sequences and so how the album was promoted was definately looser on that tour.

Interesting that he watched a YouTube video of another artist's performance without mentioning there should be a legal action against showing it. Also, if the Internet's dead how did he manage to log into a website?

Purpleaxxe1972 said:

Interesting that he watched a YouTube video of another artist's performance without mentioning there should be a legal action against showing it. Also, if the Internet's dead how did he manage to log into a website?

I think with the youtube situation and how he may feel about it, may only be in regards to his music being on there, not other artists. I also think when he said the internet is dead, I think he was referring moreso as to how music is distributed/sold on there and how musicians/artists music is often stolen via internet, as it seems he's not really a fan of digital music as well, even if he has released a few that way.

SuperFurryAnimal said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

I hear you though. He's done the same since 1985 yes

November 11. 1984
Joe Louis Arena Detroit, Michigan

1. Let's Go Crazy
2. Delirious
3. 1999
4. Little Red Corvette
5. Yankee Doodle Dandy
6. Free
7. Father's Song*
8. God
9. Computer Blue
10. Darling Nikki
11. The Beautiful Ones
12. When Doves Cry
13. I Would Die 4 U
14. Baby I'm A Star
15. Purple Rain

March 1. 1985
Daly City Cow Palace San Francisco

1.Let's Go Crazy
2.Delirious
3.1999
4.Little Red Corvette
5.Take Me With U
6.When You Were Mine
7.Head
8.Father's Song
9.A Case Of You *
10.Still Waiting *
11.Iresistible Bitch
12.Condition Of The Heart
13.Do Me, Baby
14.Temptation
15.Let's Pretend We're Married
16.International Lover
17.God
13.Computer Blue
14.Darling Nikki
15.The Beautiful Ones
16.When Doves Cry
17.I Would Die 4 U
18.Baby I'm A Star
19.Purple Rain

He had even less songs for 1999 but didn't say he felt that for that tour.

I think he was just having a hard time with the magnitude of the PR period.

I know exactly. P really never drew a line in the sand and quit playing the hits, not for too long. Us oldies know how long that lasted and the reaction during Gold Era.

I know even "indie" artists that had 10 or so singles which were hits in the "indie" world and they reach a point where they will only play new music moving forward out of boredom. Prince continues to play PR era music.

[Edited 9/21/12 8:52am]

I'm definately not trying to 'criticize' him, but some things he says just don't make sense.

I think he underestimates the fans too, I don't think anyone turned away from him because he performed America for 14 min the Ladder Condition of the Heart Raspberry Beret on the PR tour (unknown music)

It's like why should I like 20Ten when you don't even try to mix the songs into your set list. Leave the covers alone and work your music, especially at aftershows.

I admit I am HUGE For U - Batman fan never get tired of it, but I love songs throught his post 1980's catalogue throw in some Rainbow Children, Planet Earth, Space, some Lovesexy(an album that he's hardly touched since 1989) 3121 Rave & Tangerine, I understand playing the Hits but even with those he doesn't really play 1/2 of them.

I mean if he's so concerned about pleasing the masses by play 'the hits' then do less HUGE shows, do more specialized smaller shows where you might feel free to play obscure and 'non-hits'

Also I have to acknowledge his JW restrictions on many 'hits' and general songs So I don't know

the Purple Rain tour had way more diversity to the set than the SOTT tour which in 99% of the shows gave the same setlist below

1.Sign"O"The Times
2.Play In The Sunshine
3.Little Red Corvette
4.Housequake
5.Girls & Boys
6.Slow Love
7.I Could Never Take The Place Of Your Man
8.Hot Thing
9.Now's The Time
10.If I Was Your Girlfriend
11.Let's Go Crazy
12.Whtn Doves Cry
13.Purple Rain
14.1999
15.Forever In My Life
16.Kiss
17.The Cross
18.It's Gonna Be A Beautiful Night

Purpleaxxe1972 said:

Interesting that he watched a YouTube video of another artist's performance without mentioning there should be a legal action against showing it. Also, if the Internet's dead how did he manage to log into a website?

2elijah said:

Purpleaxxe1972 said:

Interesting that he watched a YouTube video of another artist's performance without mentioning there should be a legal action against showing it. Also, if the Internet's dead how did he manage to log into a website?

I think with the youtube situation and how he may feel about it, may only be in regards to his music being on there, not other artists. I also think when he said the internet is dead, I think he was referring moreso as to how music is distributed/sold on there and how musicians/artists music is often stolen via internet, as it seems he's not really a fan of digital music as well, even if he has released a few that way.

It really was a great article by the way. It was good to see Prince not being the Prince that's usually getting interviewed.

love2thenines2003 said:

PS> 1st point: no more Album from Prince anymore

second : The tj have burnt Prince's Brain 4 GOOD

third : last alone digital single ...very weak!

Decision: Enough is enough ....it's OVER 4 ME !!!

(Thanks for posting the article, though)

Purpleaxxe1972 said:

Interesting that he watched a YouTube video of another artist's performance without mentioning there should be a legal action against showing it. Also, if the Internet's dead how did he manage to log into a website?

right

didn't he do to them, what he doesn't want people to do to him...

There was a member here, that said they saw the Girls & Boys video for the 1st time this week

How do fans get to see your videos, get to take in your diverse career, if people can't show even Sheila E the Family Time etc videos on Youtube. You won't make dvd box sets or anything. So people will continue to find ways to work around him to put vids out, use obscure language that only fans would know to post the vids under, You don't have progressive personal website that people can click and see videos or tour footage. You won't give special priviledges to a Prince.org site only to show videos(only videos... U read that Prince? let us show videos)

SuperFurryAnimal said:

Prince also had a song better than "Purple Rain" it was called "Gold"

Free

Purpleaxxe1972 said:

Interesting that he watched a YouTube video of another artist's performance without mentioning there should be a legal action against showing it. Also, if the Internet's dead how did he manage to log into a website?

Maybe Betty is cool with her songs being on YouTube?

Maybe he only has a problem with his stuff being on there without his permission. As far as I can recall, hasn't there been stuff posted there that has been done with his ok?

On a side note, I dig that he wants Andy to rock like Betty. I have all of Betty's albums and Andy has a similar voice.

Efan said:

I love the first half of the interview a lot. I only want to read about Prince creating music, talking about creating music, and talking about rehearsing. I never ever ever ever want to read an interview where he's asked about religion, politics, current affairs, history, conspiracy theories, UFOs, or even the weather ever again. Ever.

What about food?

rdhull said:

Efan said:

I love the first half of the interview a lot. I only want to read about Prince creating music, talking about creating music, and talking about rehearsing. I never ever ever ever want to read an interview where he's asked about religion, politics, current affairs, history, conspiracy theories, UFOs, or even the weather ever again. Ever.

What about food?

Why, so he can talk about funky bleu cheese? Fuck outta here with that.

Efan said:

rdhull said:

What about food?

Why, so he can talk about funky bleu cheese? Fuck outta here with that.

Ha

(this is the first time Ive seen you cuss though).

Efan said:

rdhull said:

What about food?

Why, so he can talk about funky bleu cheese? Fuck outta here with that.

at both of you.

Spinlight said:

In before KCOOL drops his boybutter all over this megahit thread talking about his super brilliant "MasterPiece" bullshit.