Which Prince moment do you like best? Did you liked it when Prince hated, disliked, and disrespected hip-hop/rap (READ: Dead On It) and made his negative opinions about it known? Or did you liked it when Prince loved, liked, and respected hip-hop/rap (READ: Sexy MF, My Name Is Prince, Push, Pope, Acknowledge Me, Joint 2 Joint) and tried to performed this genre?

Discuss.

TonyVanDam said:

Which Prince moment do you like best? Did you liked it when Prince hated, disliked, and disrespected hip-hop/rap (READ: Dead On It) and made his negative opinions about it known? Or did you liked it when Prince loved, liked, and respected hip-hop/rap (READ: Sexy MF, My Name Is Prince, Push, Pope, Acknowledge Me, Joint 2 Joint) and tried to performed this genre?

Discuss.

I can't really pick between not liking Rap Prince or not. Let's face it, some of his rap songs were catchy as hell... Dead On It, Sexy MF, Pope, Acknowledge Me (in a catchy cheesy sorta way), Days Of Wild, Face Down... Those are all great songs, but then again you can't go wrong with classic Prince from the days before rap. He was much more innovative and stood out more back then because he was doing his thing, and not what people wanted to hear but rather what they weren't hearing at the time... Does that make sense? Like, nobody asked for Kiss and When Doves Cry to not have basslines, but he threw it out there and those became hits. Whereas he put out songs like Now and Push just because he wanted to re-establish himself in popular music amoungst people who were into that sound. Just my 2 cents.

Nivivrus said:

TonyVanDam said:

Which Prince moment do you like best? Did you liked it when Prince hated, disliked, and disrespected hip-hop/rap (READ: Dead On It) and made his negative opinions about it known? Or did you liked it when Prince loved, liked, and respected hip-hop/rap (READ: Sexy MF, My Name Is Prince, Push, Pope, Acknowledge Me, Joint 2 Joint) and tried to performed this genre?

Discuss.

I can't really pick between not liking Rap Prince or not. Let's face it, some of his rap songs were catchy as hell... Dead On It, Sexy MF, Pope, Acknowledge Me (in a catchy cheesy sorta way), Days Of Wild, Face Down... Those are all great songs, but then again you can't go wrong with classic Prince from the days before rap. He was much more innovative and stood out more back then because he was doing his thing, and not what people wanted to hear but rather what they weren't hearing at the time... Does that make sense? Like, nobody asked for Kiss and When Doves Cry to not have basslines, but he threw it out there and those became hits. Whereas he put out songs like Now and Push just because he wanted to re-establish himself in popular music amoungst people who were into that sound. Just my 2 cents.

Interesting.

I'm bumping THIS thread up for those that didn't see it yet.

Nivivrus said:

I can't really pick between not liking Rap Prince or not. Let's face it, some of his rap songs were catchy as hell... Dead On It, Sexy MF, Pope, Acknowledge Me (in a catchy cheesy sorta way), Days Of Wild, Face Down... Those are all great songs, but then again you can't go wrong with classic Prince from the days before rap. He was much more innovative and stood out more back then because he was doing his thing, and not what people wanted to hear but rather what they weren't hearing at the time... Does that make sense? Like, nobody asked for Kiss and When Doves Cry to not have basslines, but he threw it out there and those became hits. Whereas he put out songs like Now and Push just because he wanted to re-establish himself in popular music amoungst people who were into that sound. Just my 2 cents.

As Tony pointed out in the first post, "Dead On It" was when Prince hated rap so it can't be grouped with those other songs.

sexton said:

Nivivrus said:

I can't really pick between not liking Rap Prince or not. Let's face it, some of his rap songs were catchy as hell... Dead On It, Sexy MF, Pope, Acknowledge Me (in a catchy cheesy sorta way), Days Of Wild, Face Down... Those are all great songs, but then again you can't go wrong with classic Prince from the days before rap. He was much more innovative and stood out more back then because he was doing his thing, and not what people wanted to hear but rather what they weren't hearing at the time... Does that make sense? Like, nobody asked for Kiss and When Doves Cry to not have basslines, but he threw it out there and those became hits. Whereas he put out songs like Now and Push just because he wanted to re-establish himself in popular music amoungst people who were into that sound. Just my 2 cents.

As Tony pointed out in the first post, "Dead On It" was when Prince hated rap so it can't be grouped with those other songs.

You know, that's always been a touchy thing to say about that song. I feel it's not about rap in general, but about rappers and their attitudes towards rap and it's use. Prince goes on to explain this in just the first chorus alone:

Riding in my Thunderbird on the freeway
I turned on my radio 2 hear some music play
I got a silly rapper talking silly shit instead
And the only good rapper is one that's dead on it

So, he says he got a rapper talking silly shit...and states that there are good rappers, but only the ones who are dead on it. So what's mean by Dead on It...well, those who are rapping things worth listening to and not frivolous goofy stuff.

Yet, even with that, not sure where Jughead fits into all this mess, as that piece of crap is as frivolous as it gets!!!

So, dead on it does fit in, in a way, as it backs up serious themed rappers but...at the same time...doesn't fit because of it's own goofy nature that is uses to prove a point against silly rappers talking silly shit.

Man...I confused myself, I think!