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A BRIEF HISTORY OF PRINCE RIPOFFS

By Alex Koenig


Prince Rogers Nelson doesn’t look good on paper. He’s a lanky fifty-something Jehovah’s Witness with weird hair and a bad hip who complains a lot about the internet. And while it’s hard to fault anyone who doesn’t really get the whole internet thing, you have to give a guy a little credit for maintaining a run of cool for this long. Particularly after this was his second album cover…

So needless to say, the past few decades have been very kind to Prince. Go to your trendiest of juke joints even today and only the most jaded of cool-kid scum would turn his or her nose at the spin of the man’s greatest hits disc. And with plenty of young, wet behind the ears, upstarts eager to ride his coat tails and cash in on his sound, Prince has always been in the position of being envied. And since I rely heavily on YouTube clips to pad the length of my articles, and Prince’s presence from that particular entertainment venue has been more or less scrubbed clean, doing anything covering Prince had to be only tangentially related to him, almost by necessity.

Andre 3000: “She Lives In My Lap”

Aside from mentioning a pick from any of the variety of 80’s Prince ripoffs to start off with, this one’s the most obvious choice. While the album the track comes from enjoyed a shower of critical praises (even though it’s way too long, uneven, and overall a little boring) even those doing most of the fawning were willing to admit that Andre was essentially trying to channel Prince for the new millennium. And who needed any further proof than when OutKast netted itself an enormous swath of new soccer mom fans waxing nostalgic about their 80’s heyday. Aside from the two big singles, all of Andre’s digressions will make you yearn to listen to whatever he’s ripping off of at the time instead, and in this case, it’s definitely for your copy of Diamonds and Pearls.

Ready For The World: “Oh Shelia”

Okay here’s a nice 80’s era ripoff. If I had to guess, aside from being known for having the wettest jheri curl in the industry, Ready for the World are probably exclusively known for sounding like, and likely being confused for, Prince. At the very least, “Oh Shelia” is really catchy, and it even has the spoken intro, which was more or less Prince’s trademark at the time. On the plus, these guys could probably kick both Prince and The Time’s collective asses if it came down to a street fight. Growing up on the mean streets of Flint, Michigan, no soft Twin City boy would stand a chance.

Mariah Carey: “I Didn’t Mean To Turn You On”

Before we begin, I would like to take a brief moment to remind you that the year is 2012 and we’re about to discuss the soundtrack to Mariah Carey’s Glitter. Let that sink in for just a moment. Okay, I’m cheating a bit here. After all, this is a cover song. Originally released by Cherrelle in 1984 “I Didn’t Mean To Turn You On” is the real first hand Prince ripoff. It was even written by Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis (members of The Time itself no less) But while we could excuse Cherrelle being too close to Prince’s inner circle to know she was basically lifting the Minneapolis sound wholesale, Mariah Carey has no excuse for basically taking the song’s original track verbatim, and putting her over indulgent vocals all over it. This is such a blatant attempt at gaining cool through osmosis, I’m beginning to think that Glitter may not be as good of a movie as I think it is.

Beck: “Debra”

I’ve heard it once said that the entirety of Midnight Vultures (my personal favorite Beck album, since it’s nice and stupid)) is essentially a tribute to our short, purple clad friend. I don’t buy it. First it contains “Hollywood Freaks” (which may contain his most overtly Scientologist lyrics) which makes “Pussy Control” look like Master P. And then it has “Debra” which seemed to be a simple joke song Beck mostly hated when it became such a staple of his live show. I suppose it can be included on this list nonetheless since of all the things this song is paying tribute to, Prince isn’t specifically not one of them.

Prince: “Black Sweat”

Here’s where talking about Prince on the internet gets tricky friends. So you’re just going to have to use your imagination. I don’t recall where I saw the music video of this single released off of 3121 in 2006. (Hell, now that I think about it, it may have been BET) But I recall it being sparse, a touch more modern than whatever was on the album you could only buy at Target and Prince getting a “Lawd have mercy!” expression on his face as some young pretty thing started grinding on him throughout the chorus. Almost like this generation is too freaky even for him. I suppose that was his intended message, but it’s at this point when you think of the man as a fifty

something religious nut who may be making the rounds going door to door in your neighborhood if you live in the Minneapolis area you might get a little weirded out.

This situation isn’t even unique to Prince, it’s the same feeling you get if you see Madonna on stage and think of her as a 53 year old mother of four. The fact that this single even made an attempt at the younger demographic is I suppose what makes it a Prince ripoff. Speaking of which, the biggest Prince ripoff of them all is the fact that we’ve all been denied Prince soundtracks to the Christopher Nolan Batman movies. Just recently we’ve lost out on the possibility of a “Batdance 2008” and a “Batdance 2012” and dear god why is someone not making this right now?

"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato

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Reply #1 posted 08/17/12 2:03pm

Scorp

u know, deep down, I'm not mad at Prince for censoring his music from youtube

I think a major part why he made that decision because he notices how so many artists from the current musical landscape have sampled/interpolated the work of those artists from the 70s and 80s

I think he's encouraging today's artists to nuture their own talents so they can create fresh music in their own right.......

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Reply #2 posted 08/17/12 4:02pm

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[Edited 8/17/12 20:49pm]

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Reply #3 posted 08/17/12 8:22pm

NeonCraxx

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the writer is a dick - case closed

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Reply #4 posted 08/17/12 9:12pm

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from the title of the thread, I was expecting complaints about LotusFlow3r.com and Crystal Ball, and, etc., etc.... biggrin

Not dead, not in prison, still funkin'...
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Reply #5 posted 08/17/12 10:32pm

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purplethunder3121 said:

By Alex Koenig


Prince Rogers Nelson doesn’t look good on paper. He’s a lanky fifty-something Jehovah’s Witness with weird hair and a bad hip who complains a lot about the internet. And while it’s hard to fault anyone who doesn’t really get the whole internet thing, you have to give a guy a little credit for maintaining a run of cool for this long. Particularly after this was his second album cover…

There is no problems with his hips lol

Next thing you know someone will bring up the removed rib topic giggle

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Ohh purple joy oh purple bliss oh purple rapture!
REAL MUSIC by REAL MUSICIANS - Prince
"I kind of wish there was a reason for Prince to make the site crash more" ~~ Ben
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Reply #6 posted 08/17/12 11:40pm

Analyst

Ready for the World was the best old-school, Prince/Minneapolis sound rip-off. Like, they were the closest you could get to Prince's work without actually putting on a Prince and the Revolution cd.

I still say, and I'll probably get slaughtered for this - that the best modern, recent Prince rip-off work is by The Dream - "Bodywork/Fuck My Brains Out". I was obsessed with that for weeks and went nuts when I heard it because it sounded so much like classic Prince to me.

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Reply #7 posted 08/18/12 12:08am

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No list of rip offs is complete without mentioning Chocolate Starfish, Prince's secret son.
blah blah blah
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Reply #8 posted 08/18/12 2:29am

Analyst

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No list of rip offs is complete without mentioning Chocolate Starfish, Prince's secret son.

...Think you confused "offspring" with "rip-off"...

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Reply #9 posted 08/18/12 2:44am

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Well, they did say it was brief.

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Reply #10 posted 08/18/12 5:19am

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Here in Australia we had the best white Prince going around in the late 80's. lol

And although it was hilarious to watch, their music wasn't too bad "for a white guy".

Introducing Wa Wa Nee

eek confused cool wink lol

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Reply #11 posted 08/18/12 9:06am

Noodled24

Scorp said:

u know, deep down, I'm not mad at Prince for censoring his music from youtube

I think a major part why he made that decision because he notices how so many artists from the current musical landscape have sampled/interpolated the work of those artists from the 70s and 80s

I think he's encouraging today's artists to nuture their own talents so they can create fresh music in their own right.......

That makes no sense since Prince owes a lot to the artists that came before him.

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Nice thread though. There's also that Alicia Keys song which is a blatent nod to the shimmer of "Purple Rain" I forget the name but i'm thinking "If I never see you again"?

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Reply #12 posted 08/18/12 6:33pm

herb4

First thing I though of besides Ready for the World was "Lst's Go All the Way" by Sly Fox.

"Hellagood" by No Doubt sounds like PRince.

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Reply #13 posted 08/19/12 9:23am

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Yeah, that WAS brief. No "Waterfalls" by TLC? No mention of JT's entire "Future Sex/Love Sounds" album? Whatever that business Puff Daddy was up to a few years ago? No reference to half of Lenny Kravitz's whole career (that isn't concerned with regurgitating Zeppelin or Hendrix or his other unfiltered/unsynthesized influences are)?

I was ready to dig in!
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Reply #14 posted 08/19/12 10:12am

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Without reference to Georgio this piece simply can't be taken seriously.
Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ
πρὸς ὀλίγον ἐστὶ τὸ ζῆν
τὸ τέλος ὁ χρόνος ἀπαιτεῖ.”
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Reply #15 posted 08/19/12 10:20am

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Lammastide said:

Without reference to Georgio this piece simply can't be taken seriously.



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Reply #16 posted 08/19/12 12:22pm

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ONE HIT WONDERS WEEK: Geo...Sex Appeal

georgio

Georgio (Allentini) is somewhat of a enigma. Half Black and Half Italian, his timing was perfect in the mid to late 80′s to make a foray into urban music which at the time was, as it always has been, looking to clone one of the biggest stars of that era.. in this case Prince. Georgio had the same and rogynous (man who looks like a woman who looks like a man) look that the industry was hunting for. Guys like him were marketing butter because they were “pretty” and women liked them and men were afraid to comment on their looks. Ironically, this look worked for men but not for women like Grace Jones or Adeva.

There are many stories as to how Georgio got his start in the music industry. First, that he was a former DJ, second that he was raised in Minneapolis and that he took his demo to Prince who wanted to bring him on as a session singer (but Georgio felt he was much more than that and he declined) then the most likely story, that he drove to Los Angeles from San Francisco to a radio station and asked the receptionist to play his record and she said, “We don’t do that” he then gave her some money and she damn near broke her neck to find the PD (laugh) that’s SO unlikely, and my name is Rumpelstiltskin Johnson. Word has it his record was on the air by the time he got in

his car (dayum) then the

listeners went crazy for the single Sex Appeal, then on Picture Perfect records a small label that did not have the resources to hand le promoting artists. At the time he was known as Georgio Allentini but Motown, picked the single up, (probably stole it)(laugh) and dropped the last name to duplicate Prince’s imagery even more.

The single’s infectious hook propelled it to the top of the charts but Motown could not hand le Georgio’s ego. It was said that he often bragged that he was a genius and better than Prince and Micheal Jackson to the point that it became incredibly annoying and after two more albums the label deeeeropped his ass. I could not find a video for Sex Appeal online and I’m sure one was made but here is something someone put together with at least the music…

Georgio is currently a movie director in LA who wrapped up production on a movie starring Coolio called Tapped in 2004. SURPRISE… The movie went straight to DVD.

"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato

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Reply #17 posted 08/19/12 1:14pm

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hah!

"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato

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Reply #18 posted 08/19/12 2:21pm

petes2

purplethunder3121 said:

hah!

I don't hear too many of the above songs as any good. Of course Oh Sheila was fantastic but you ain't even mentioning good ripoffs, those tunes are crap. Andre Cymone did some of the best Prince stuff with Jody Watley and Do Anything was a great pop tune if not a great work of art. These songs above deservedly haven't made any mark. Funny thing, just pre-hip hop's takeover starting with Run DMC Prince was worshipped by black musicians more than any other figure in the biz at that time. That period and it's marketability were pretty brief and the Minneapolis sound never had the longevity that a lot of other styles and genres have had in it's strictest form anyways.

oh yeah and as far as Giorgio goes, I remember his little media blitz, sort of Terence Trent like with the genius talk, only with 0 talent to back it up. Stories about him being a gigolo in hollywood before his music career were written about to hype him. Good looking guy though, but not an iota of talent.

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Reply #19 posted 08/19/12 2:50pm

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Fucking shameless........

Can't find any more from the Bar Kays album 'Banging The Wall' on youtube, but it's a pretty good LP with even more shameless ripoffs than that one. I forget the track, I think it's 'Love Won't Wait' that lifts the melody verbatim from 'Crazy You' and lots of Erotic City, Automatic type stuff.

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Reply #20 posted 08/19/12 3:39pm

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and then this guy...

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Reply #21 posted 08/19/12 3:45pm

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rips Prince/The Time/Ingrid Chavez

What are you outraged about today? CNN has not told you yet?
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Reply #22 posted 08/19/12 4:01pm

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And yet these are the vids we can see on Youtube confused

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maja2405 said:

And yet these are the vids we can see on Youtube confused

lol neutral

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Reply #24 posted 08/19/12 5:47pm

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maja2405 said:

And yet these are the vids we can see on Youtube confused

ha ha ha ha ha

"Prince doesn't have verbal diarrhea, he has studio diarrhea...." Allen Leeds
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Reply #25 posted 08/19/12 7:42pm

G3000

Ebonne Webb - Ripping off "Dirty Mind" era Prince.

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Reply #26 posted 08/19/12 8:35pm

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He's even rocking the under the cherry moon outfit:

http://www.youtube.com/wa...oGhZ13_XT4

Is it wrong I secretly love this song? boxed

"Prince doesn't have verbal diarrhea, he has studio diarrhea...." Allen Leeds
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Reply #27 posted 08/19/12 8:58pm

G3000

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He's even rocking the under the cherry moon outfit:

http://www.youtube.com/wa...oGhZ13_XT4

Is it wrong I secretly love this song? boxed

This song is a JAM!! music

I don't think of Prince when I hear, Chico is trying to channel Prince only with his look.

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Reply #28 posted 08/19/12 10:01pm

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IDk, this sort of sounds like Prince/Flyte Tyme to me.

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Reply #29 posted 08/19/12 10:38pm

HuMpThAnG

Definitely a "Nasty Girl" ripoff

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