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2elijah said:
petes2 said:
Chuck did country flavored music but by strict definition Rockabilly was white country boys, standup bass, rhythm guitar and electric lead, it was the style Elvis founded in the Sun Sessions. Listen to songs like Mystery Train, Good Rockin' Tonight, Blue Moon of Kentucky, you'll see the similarities.
I gave to look further into that. Chuck's sound to me was always rock, gospel mixed with rhythm and blues, similar to Sister Rosetta Tharpe. If you check out her vids on youtube you will hear the rock gospel mixed with Blues, that Chuck's music pretty much sounds like with his own styleI know Elvis was a fan of Chuck and James Brown, according to one of JB's autobiography I read sometime ago. Elvis used to frequent black clubs because he fell in love with the 'gospel' and 'blues' sound of Black entertainers and also wanted to learn how they danced. These were James Brown's words not mine.
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The way i see it is music in itself has no color, has no race. The notes, chords are not asian, black, white. But people tend to want to place "labels" on things. So if Prince was influenced by James Brown, Elvis, George Clinton, the Beatles, its all just music to me. What are you outraged about today? CNN has not told you yet? |
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petes2 said:
2elijah said:
I gave to look further into that. Chuck's sound to me was always rock, gospel mixed with rhythm and blues, similar to Sister Rosetta Tharpe. If you check out her vids on youtube you will hear the rock gospel mixed with Blues, that Chuck's music pretty much sounds like with his own styleI know Elvis was a fan of Chuck and James Brown, according to one of JB's autobiography I read sometime ago. Elvis used to frequent black clubs because he fell in love with the 'gospel' and 'blues' sound of Black entertainers and also wanted to learn how they danced. These were James Brown's words not mine.
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no way man, chuck has said (as if it needed to be said) that country was a big influence. Maybellene, Memphis, many, many others were more country than blues. Everyone at the time was crossing the color line, black and white. Yes Elvis took from blues acts. But anyway as for Prince doing Delirious in a Chuck Berry style, musically, I could see why you would think that but Prince sings vocally in a Elvis way, one thing about chuck, over and above anyone else in the era had brilliant lyrics and perfect pronunciation and diction, he did imitate dialects all over the place but he did it clearly. I'd say Little Red Corvette as a title and metaphor for woman was a more closely derived Chuck inspiration.
I didn't disagree that 'country' may have been one of Chuck's influences musically, and yes to me, Prince plays the guitar Chuck Berry style when he performs 'Delirious', and 'Johnny Be Good', in which he did an awesome performance of the latter, during the 3121 opening in Las Vegas back in 2002. He clearly brought that 'era' of music to light at that moment.
I could agree that he may pull off an Elvis style vocally, but I was focusing more on how he performs it guitar wise. I could hear so many influences when he performs it from earlier musicians, who were into the rockabilly, blues rock form of music. I could hear that sound in gospel and blues rock, in some church bands as well today. So we agree just 'a bit', so besides me injecting 'Chuck Berry' into the conversation, I also remember reading in an interview, that that Ike Turner and Little Richard were also 2 of Prince's music influences, in which both were not that far from Chuck and Elvis' era in music history.
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SuperFurryAnimal said:
2elijah said:
I gave to look further into that. Chuck's sound to me was always rock, gospel mixed with rhythm and blues, similar to Sister Rosetta Tharpe. If you check out her vids on youtube you will hear the rock gospel mixed with Blues, that Chuck's music pretty much sounds like with his own styleI know Elvis was a fan of Chuck and James Brown, according to one of JB's autobiography I read sometime ago. Elvis used to frequent black clubs because he fell in love with the 'gospel' and 'blues' sound of Black entertainers and also wanted to learn how they danced. These were James Brown's words not mine.
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The way i see it is music in itself has no color, has no race. The notes, chords are not asian, black, white. But people tend to want to place "labels" on things. So if Prince was influenced by James Brown, Elvis, George Clinton, the Beatles, its all just music to me.
My reference to Chuck being one of Prince's influences has nothing to do with race, it's about ' music style'. No need to panic. It's all good. |
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2elijah said:
SuperFurryAnimal said:
The way i see it is music in itself has no color, has no race. The notes, chords are not asian, black, white. But people tend to want to place "labels" on things. So if Prince was influenced by James Brown, Elvis, George Clinton, the Beatles, its all just music to me.
My reference to Chuck being one of Prince's influences has nothing to do with race, it's about ' music style'. No need to panic. It's all good.
I would believe that Chuck was an influence but I would also believe at that point it was just Prince being Prince. More likely a range of influences in the songs. You just can't pin point them. Plus Chuck, Presley, the Beatles they influences a ton of musicians. So sooner or later they will be an influence directly or indirectly.
Elvis has sold over 2.5 billion records, Do you think he influenced anyone?? What are you outraged about today? CNN has not told you yet? |
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I am SO glad Prince´s music doesn´t sound like Elvis because...I don´t like Elvis music!!!!!!!!!!!!
All respect, did good stuff in his early years and brought R&R 2 a the mainstream public and have some good memories being a kid seeing his movies on the tele ´
Give me The Beatles or Stones each & every day.... Love4oneanother |
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Paisley4u said:
I am SO glad Prince´s music doesn´t sound like Elvis because...I don´t like Elvis music!!!!!!!!!!!!
All respect, did good stuff in his early years and brought R&R 2 a the mainstream public and have some good memories being a kid seeing his movies on the tele ´
Give me The Beatles or Stones each & every day....
Have you heard Stranger in My Own Hometown? Way Down? Hurt? go listen and tell me what you think please. |
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