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Thread started 08/05/12 8:31pm

rdhull

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the victim

Throughout the years, Prince has been 'the victim,' hurt, or spurned lover in his songs. Such songs as:

How Come You Dont Call Me

I Love You But Dont Trust You

17 Days

When Doves Cry

Eye Hate You

Condition Of The Heart

..and many more, I'm sure. The hurt or spurned lover man lyrics have always been part of his repetoire. I want a song, or is there already one where he has lyrics where he has the upper hand and dogged the lover..where he was the antagonist, the heel? I would imagine it would have the same angry vibe of Billy Jack Bitch, a song where he is aggressive yet still playing the victim in the songs scenario (yes, even if its based on truth, but arent a lot of these songs already mentioned based on true relationships he's had?). Are all these victim type songs another way of him using the masculine and feminine as part of his artistic presentation? I know men can be emotional but typically in music, you get a more 'fooled around and fell in love, got burned, now Im a player' type of vibe. Not a full on hurt delicate flower vibe.

I'd like a session with a relationship therapist to bring out some responsibility in his songs. That might bring about a few Im sorry, I did you wrong songs which would be refreshing imo.

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[Edited 8/6/12 10:45am]

"Climb in my fur."
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Reply #1 posted 08/05/12 9:13pm

BarbieJones

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Like, Had U?
Hello!
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Reply #2 posted 08/05/12 9:36pm

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The "do-wrong-woman" is a deeply rooted tradition in Afro-American music, it goes back to blues and jazz ballads.

Female singers/composers have their fair share of "do-wrong-man" songs as well.

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Reply #3 posted 08/05/12 10:36pm

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There are positive songs "If I had a Harem":

If I had a harem like all the papers say
If I had a harem like all the papers say
I'd have me a different girl 4 each and every day

If I had a harem here's what I'd do
If I had a harem here's what I'd do
I'd get me 7, 8, or 9 just 2 take care of U
This is true
Yeah

I'd have one 2 wash your body, one 2 wash your hair
One 2 wash U here and another one 2 wash U there
If I had a harem
I'd do things 2 ya that no other man would dare
Yeah

Fantastic!

If I had a harem, this one thing is true
If I had a harem, this one thing is true
I'd only have 'em 4 one reason: just 2 take care of U

Sho'nuff sweet thing, sugar pop, coco-lot
Primafantasticsuperextracool
I'd only have a harem just 2 take sweet care of U
Yeah

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Reply #4 posted 08/06/12 12:12am

xpertluva

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Strange Relationship

If I Was Your Girlfriend

Witness 4 the Prosecution

[Edited 8/6/12 2:13am]

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Reply #5 posted 08/06/12 7:02am

rdhull

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BarbieJones said:

Like, Had U?

Yes, I guess. On the oposite agressive feel spectrum of BJB.

"Climb in my fur."
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Reply #6 posted 08/06/12 7:04am

rdhull

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databank said:

The "do-wrong-woman" is a deeply rooted tradition in Afro-American music, it goes back to blues and jazz ballads.

Okay. Knew that, but, okay.

Now about him ALWAYS using that theme.

"Climb in my fur."
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Reply #7 posted 08/06/12 7:06am

rdhull

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xpertluva said:

Strange Relationship

If I Was Your Girlfriend

Witness 4 the Prosecution

[Edited 8/6/12 2:13am]

SR is the only one close to" Im sorry for doggin you" to me.

Hey..what about the unreleased 'Player?'

"Climb in my fur."
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Reply #8 posted 08/06/12 8:16am

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rdhull said:

databank said:

The "do-wrong-woman" is a deeply rooted tradition in Afro-American music, it goes back to blues and jazz ballads.

Okay. Knew that, but, okay.

Now about him ALWAYS using that theme.

Well... when u read his biographies it's pretty clear lol He's not too puch of an "i'm sorry" fellow...

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Reply #9 posted 08/06/12 8:49am

peedub

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in this bed i scream.

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Reply #10 posted 08/06/12 9:21am

Genesia

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He's your basic dick in Bambi and Extralovable.

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Reply #11 posted 08/06/12 9:52am

alphachannel

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A few oldies...

Something in the Water

Why You Wanna Treat Me So Bad

When U Were Mine

[Edited 8/6/12 9:53am]

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Reply #12 posted 08/06/12 9:57am

Genesia

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alphachannel said:

A few oldies...

Something in the Water

Why You Wanna Treat Me So Bad

When U Were Mine

[Edited 8/6/12 9:53am]

Uhhhh...I think you misunderstood the intent of the thread. It's about songs in which he's the asshole - not the injured party.

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Reply #13 posted 08/06/12 10:48am

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Genesia said:

alphachannel said:

A few oldies...

Something in the Water

Why You Wanna Treat Me So Bad

When U Were Mine

[Edited 8/6/12 9:53am]

Uhhhh...I think you misunderstood the intent of the thread. It's about songs in which he's the asshole - not the injured party.

Indeed you're right biggrin That makes it much harder obviously... How about "Thrill You or Kill You":

Call your ass up on the phone
Your momma tells me U ain't home
What the hell's wrong with U
U must think that I'm a fool
U gotta be crazy 4 playin' with my mind
I could kill U anytime

One way or another, girl
I'm gonna make U mine
I'm gonna thrill U or kill U
I'm walkin' the line...

Took U out 2 eat one night
U ate up everything in site
Heaven knows I wanted 2 fight
When all I got was a kiss goodnight
Ooh, what a kisser
Your face could stop a clock
But I still love U, baby
I still wanna bust your clock

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Reply #14 posted 08/06/12 11:40am

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alphachannel said:

Genesia said:

Uhhhh...I think you misunderstood the intent of the thread. It's about songs in which he's the asshole - not the injured party.

Indeed you're right biggrin That makes it much harder obviously... How about "Thrill You or Kill You":

Call your ass up on the phone
Your momma tells me U ain't home
What the hell's wrong with U
U must think that I'm a fool
U gotta be crazy 4 playin' with my mind
I could kill U anytime

One way or another, girl
I'm gonna make U mine
I'm gonna thrill U or kill U
I'm walkin' the line...

Took U out 2 eat one night
U ate up everything in site
Heaven knows I wanted 2 fight
When all I got was a kiss goodnight
Ooh, what a kisser
Your face could stop a clock
But I still love U, baby
I still wanna bust your clock

...and now I learn that Prince only plays on this track -- it was written and sung by Andre. Two idiot moments on one thread; maybe it's best I sit this one out smile

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Reply #15 posted 08/06/12 12:06pm

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rdhull said:

xpertluva said:

Strange Relationship

If I Was Your Girlfriend

Witness 4 the Prosecution

[Edited 8/6/12 2:13am]

SR is the only one close to" Im sorry for doggin you" to me.

Hey..what about the unreleased 'Player?'

"Player" is an admission at least, that he was a dog in the past and that he's ready to be true to one person.

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Reply #16 posted 08/24/12 4:59am

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rdhull said:



BarbieJones said:


Like, Had U?


Yes, I guess. On the oposite agressive feel spectrum of BJB.



Yes. Is he playing guitar and crying? I hear crying.
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