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Reply #60 posted 03/05/03 6:33pm

BorisFishpaw

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It's all about context.

The reason Newpower Soul is an NPG album and not a Prince album is to put the album into context. Yes he sings lead, but it's clearly an extension of the NPG ethos, it takes it title from the unreleased earlier NPG album, and the title track uses prominent samples from Exodus' Big Fun.

Prince pointed out on numerous occasions during the promotion of Newpower Soul that it wasn't a new 'Prince' album, it was a 'band' effort. He knew he was gonna tour the album with Larry & Chaka, and felt it was pointless to have a 'ghost' lead vocalist for the album when he knew full well he was gonna perform the songs himself on tour. He trusted that the fans would recognize the distinction he was making by calling it an NPG album rather than a 'Prince' one.
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Reply #61 posted 03/05/03 6:36pm

Starmist7

I've rocked that one, and still will...
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Reply #62 posted 03/05/03 6:37pm

AaronUnlimited

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BorisFishpaw said:

It's all about context.

The reason Newpower Soul is an NPG album and not a Prince album is to put the album into context. Yes he sings lead, but it's clearly an extension of the NPG ethos, it takes it title from the unreleased earlier NPG album, and the title track uses prominent samples from Exodus' Big Fun.

Prince pointed out on numerous occasions during the promotion of Newpower Soul that it wasn't a new 'Prince' album, it was a 'band' effort. He knew he was gonna tour the album with Larry & Chaka, and felt it was pointless to have a 'ghost' lead vocalist for the album when he knew full well he was gonna perform the songs himself on tour. He trusted that the fans would recognize the distinction he was making by calling it an NPG album rather than a 'Prince' one.



well, that's how he intended it, but it's always going to be a Prince album because it's the only 1 of the 3 that he sings all lead vocals on. and the "band" appears less on this album than they do either of their other 2. in fact, they barely appear at all. he may not have wanted it to be considered a "Prince" (or prince) album, but he should have known that's how it would be perceived.

plus... i don't know when the decision to make it an NPG album took place. perhaps at some point during the recording or mixing, or whatever, he realized that this was pretty bad (even for him, for that time) and decided he didn't want his name on the cover. or for it to be in the "Prince" section of the online stores.
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Reply #63 posted 03/06/03 8:42am

WildheartXXX

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BorisFishpaw said:

It's all about context.

The reason Newpower Soul is an NPG album and not a Prince album is to put the album into context. Yes he sings lead, but it's clearly an extension of the NPG ethos, it takes it title from the unreleased earlier NPG album, and the title track uses prominent samples from Exodus' Big Fun.

Prince pointed out on numerous occasions during the promotion of Newpower Soul that it wasn't a new 'Prince' album, it was a 'band' effort. He knew he was gonna tour the album with Larry & Chaka, and felt it was pointless to have a 'ghost' lead vocalist for the album when he knew full well he was gonna perform the songs himself on tour. He trusted that the fans would recognize the distinction he was making by calling it an NPG album rather than a 'Prince' one.


It's a good point but the album still had Prince's guidance as the driving force. What i think it demonstrates is that the NPS band, that whole 1996-1999 setup was the least talented bunch of musicians he had. What they may have possessed technically they completely lacked creatively.
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Reply #64 posted 03/06/03 9:57am

Anji

WildheartXXX said:

BorisFishpaw said:

It's all about context.

The reason Newpower Soul is an NPG album and not a Prince album is to put the album into context. Yes he sings lead, but it's clearly an extension of the NPG ethos, it takes it title from the unreleased earlier NPG album, and the title track uses prominent samples from Exodus' Big Fun.

Prince pointed out on numerous occasions during the promotion of Newpower Soul that it wasn't a new 'Prince' album, it was a 'band' effort. He knew he was gonna tour the album with Larry & Chaka, and felt it was pointless to have a 'ghost' lead vocalist for the album when he knew full well he was gonna perform the songs himself on tour. He trusted that the fans would recognize the distinction he was making by calling it an NPG album rather than a 'Prince' one.


It's a good point but the album still had Prince's guidance as the driving force. What i think it demonstrates is that the NPS band, that whole 1996-1999 setup was the least talented bunch of musicians he had. What they may have possessed technically they completely lacked creatively.
Prince was the creative force, surely.
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Reply #65 posted 03/06/03 10:06am

diamondpearl1

nothin is wrong with u lol new power soul like a lot of his 90's work got ignored cause he didnt do like everybody else he did his own thang as usual... thank u so much sly stone george clinton... thank u so much... i love "the one" its kinda like a sequel 2 friend mother sister lover wife only this time the newlyweds are a lil older and aged like fine wine wink
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Reply #66 posted 03/06/03 10:11am

fairlite

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::cough:: bump!


Exactly, like I said in one of my other posts. It sound like he went and bought himself a Casio keyboard and just used the built in auto play features. Very cheezy sounding. I will always feel this is one of his worst efforts. I know alot of you don't agree but hey..
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Reply #67 posted 03/06/03 10:14am

Anji

fairlite said:

teller said:

::cough:: bump!


Exactly, like I said in one of my other posts. It sound like he went and bought himself a Casio keyboard and just used the built in auto play features. Very cheezy sounding. I will always feel this is one of his worst efforts. I know alot of you don't agree but hey..

Teller actually loves this album. This is what he said about

it earlier

NewPower Soul stands head and shoulders above most of his 90's work--TGE, for example, sounds FORCED. NPS is just pure PLAY; the whole album is consistent, and there's not a single jam on there that's compromised by trying to get on the radio. Of the things we claim to love about Prince--clever lyrics, strange altered voices, odd noises and distortions, unusual song structure, going to strange new places--NPS is a loaded weapon.

I will never understand why so many P fans are dissin on this album...I suspect it's just a matter of time...like a fine wine, NPS ages well.
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Reply #68 posted 03/06/03 10:17am

fairlite

Anji said:

fairlite said:

teller said:

::cough:: bump!


Exactly, like I said in one of my other posts. It sound like he went and bought himself a Casio keyboard and just used the built in auto play features. Very cheezy sounding. I will always feel this is one of his worst efforts. I know alot of you don't agree but hey..

Teller actually loves this album. This is what he said about

it earlier

NewPower Soul stands head and shoulders above most of his 90's work--TGE, for example, sounds FORCED. NPS is just pure PLAY; the whole album is consistent, and there's not a single jam on there that's compromised by trying to get on the radio. Of the things we claim to love about Prince--clever lyrics, strange altered voices, odd noises and distortions, unusual song structure, going to strange new places--NPS is a loaded weapon.

I will never understand why so many P fans are dissin on this album...I suspect it's just a matter of time...like a fine wine, NPS ages well.


Oops my bad in not explaning myself better. What I meant was by saying exactly was about the drums, the rest is just my opinion. Sorry
[This message was edited Thu Mar 6 10:18:58 PST 2003 by fairlite]
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Reply #69 posted 03/06/03 12:26pm

warning2all

Hey Anji, you've got nothing to apoligize for, buddy!Everybody has a "Private Shame", oops, I mean, "Private Joy",made by Prince, which deep down they know might be utter shit, but kind of does it for them all the same!

Don't let public opinion get ya down! Good fer you for liking "NPS"! It's like that ugly puppy at the pet store noone is adopting but you think is sweet!

For me, I think "Grafitti Bridge" is one of his best albums, especially if you cut out "Round and Round" and the title track! This cd gets dissed because it's a product of a bad movie, but dissin' GB is throwing out the baby with the bathwater! Dig?

NPS CAN be appreciated by its bits & pieces & sound effects that make up the compositions. That makes NPS "parts" greater than it's "whole"- appreciated by those who like to dissect Prince's material, than those who just want a good song.

P.S.: any others out there in cyberland find it funny prince's liner notes about "Paper is only money, but a GOOD song never dies" ironic since there insn't a GOOD song "living" on Newpower Soul?Ironic, man!
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Reply #70 posted 03/06/03 12:47pm

Essence

A fun enjoyable diversion from the more introspective "solo" career, nothing wrong with that.
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Reply #71 posted 03/06/03 2:21pm

Anji

warning2all said:

For me, I think "Grafitti Bridge" is one of his best albums, especially if you cut out "Round and Round" and the title track! This cd gets dissed because it's a product of a bad movie, but dissin' GB is throwing out the baby with the bathwater! Dig?
I love the album, Grafitti Bridge, as a whole. I find it an incredibly angry, biting and soulful piece of work. It's definitely one of my favourites but I didn't always think this way.
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Reply #72 posted 03/06/03 3:20pm

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teller said:

NewPower Soul stands head and shoulders above most of his 90's work--TGE, for example, sounds FORCED.



this is the kind of thing that happens when you give someone the illusion of free will disbelief
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Reply #73 posted 03/06/03 3:25pm

Anji

AaronUnlimited said:

teller said:

NewPower Soul stands head and shoulders above most of his 90's work--TGE, for example, sounds FORCED.



this is the kind of thing that happens when you give someone the illusion of free will disbelief

Are you saying Prince released The Gold Experience as less 'free' than it could have been, because he wanted freedom on his own terms? Or that Newpower Soul was the result of a lack of quality control from Warners?
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Reply #74 posted 03/06/03 3:33pm

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Anji said:

AaronUnlimited said:

teller said:

NewPower Soul stands head and shoulders above most of his 90's work--TGE, for example, sounds FORCED.



this is the kind of thing that happens when you give someone the illusion of free will disbelief

Are you saying Prince released The Gold Experience as less 'free' than it could have been, because he wanted freedom on his own terms? Or that Newpower Soul was the result of a lack of quality control from Warners?



no. it was an inside joke with teller, over the alarming revelation that he likes NPS over TGE (omfg)
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Reply #75 posted 03/06/03 4:38pm

Anji

AaronUnlimited said:

Anji said:

AaronUnlimited said:

teller said:

NewPower Soul stands head and shoulders above most of his 90's work--TGE, for example, sounds FORCED.



this is the kind of thing that happens when you give someone the illusion of free will disbelief

Are you saying Prince released The Gold Experience as less 'free' than it could have been, because he wanted freedom on his own terms? Or that Newpower Soul was the result of a lack of quality control from Warners?



no. it was an inside joke with teller, over the alarming revelation that he likes NPS over TGE (omfg)

I prefer Newpower Soul to both Chaos & Disorder and Rave Un2 The Joy Fantastic. mr.green
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Reply #76 posted 03/06/03 8:20pm

Anji

warning2all said:

P.S.: any others out there in cyberland find it funny prince's liner notes about "Paper is only money, but a GOOD song never dies" ironic since there insn't a GOOD song "living" on Newpower Soul?Ironic, man!
evillol
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Reply #77 posted 03/07/03 5:42am

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AaronUnlimited said:

teller said:

NewPower Soul stands head and shoulders above most of his 90's work--TGE, for example, sounds FORCED.



this is the kind of thing that happens when you give someone the illusion of free will disbelief

silly man! :LOL:
Fear is the mind-killer.
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Reply #78 posted 03/07/03 6:28am

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Funny to see all you secret NPS lovers coming out of the closet. Upon first listening I cringed, thought lil' man had totally lost it, but later I learned to appreciate a great deal of the album. I still don't like the ballads (too sweet) and the production (especially the drums), but there sure are some funky cuts on this album.

And for all the "Come On" lovers, try to find the Jay Leno performance of this song, that's a real funk bomb!
RIP Prince: thank U 4 a funky Time...
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Reply #79 posted 03/07/03 6:31am

Anji

Newpower Soul has just taken control... evillol
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