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Prince autograph fake or real??? Hello all,
Looking for help on this signed Purple Rain record. Looks like autographs from Wendy,Lisa, Dr Fink,Bobby Z and Prince. Where`s Brown Mark? Anyways, Prince`s signature seems off but the others seem right. What do you think? Thanks for the help and sorry for the low quality photo.
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Reply #1 posted 07/27/12 7:36am
metallicjigolo |
Looks off to me. If you look in the back of the purple rain tour book theres a good sig. To compare. Would be a good find to have all their autos tho. Prince did an interview with a woman at Record World. They talked about whatever, then he asked her: "Does your pubic hair go up to your navel?" At that moment, we thought maybe we shouldn't encourage him to do interviews. |
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Reply #2 posted 07/27/12 9:29am
felixcat67
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metallicjigolo said:
Looks off to me. If you look in the back of the purple rain tour book theres a good sig. To compare. Would be a good find to have all their autos tho.
Thanks for your idea. Will look for my Purple Rain tourbook. |
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Reply #3 posted 07/28/12 3:47am
BartVanHemelen |
felixcat67 said:
Hello all,
Looking for help on this signed Purple Rain record. Looks like autographs from Wendy,Lisa, Dr Fink,Bobby Z and Prince. Where`s Brown Mark? Anyways, Prince`s signature seems off but the others seem right. What do you think? Thanks for the help and sorry for the low quality photo.
Looks seriously fake. Prince rarely did signing sessions, and back in 1988 for instance he didn't even write his name. I would be very suspicious of something like this: an item that is unlikely to exist, and moreover where each autograph is easily legible. Signing sessions aren't exactly stress-free events where each band member takes his/her time to write a nice-looking signature. Unless there's a pic of Prince & co signing that record, assume it is false.
Also: IMHO signed items are not worth the money. Besides the fact that they can easily be fake, what's the worth? If I got that signature myself it would be precious to me, but other than that... © Bart Van Hemelen
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Reply #4 posted 07/28/12 4:54am
felixcat67
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BartVanHemelen said:
felixcat67 said:
Hello all,
Looking for help on this signed Purple Rain record. Looks like autographs from Wendy,Lisa, Dr Fink,Bobby Z and Prince. Where`s Brown Mark? Anyways, Prince`s signature seems off but the others seem right. What do you think? Thanks for the help and sorry for the low quality photo.
Looks seriously fake. Prince rarely did signing sessions, and back in 1988 for instance he didn't even write his name. I would be very suspicious of something like this: an item that is unlikely to exist, and moreover where each autograph is easily legible. Signing sessions aren't exactly stress-free events where each band member takes his/her time to write a nice-looking signature. Unless there's a pic of Prince & co signing that record, assume it is false.
Also: IMHO signed items are not worth the money. Besides the fact that they can easily be fake, what's the worth? If I got that signature myself it would be precious to me, but other than that...
Thanks Bart. I have this album that I got from a storage unit. Dont think it was signed in 1988 if it was signed legit. I checked the band members signatures and they look legit. Prince signature does look off though but thats why I ask for some help. |
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Reply #5 posted 07/28/12 6:21am
KoolEaze |
BartVanHemelen said:
felixcat67 said:
Hello all,
Looking for help on this signed Purple Rain record. Looks like autographs from Wendy,Lisa, Dr Fink,Bobby Z and Prince. Where`s Brown Mark? Anyways, Prince`s signature seems off but the others seem right. What do you think? Thanks for the help and sorry for the low quality photo.
Looks seriously fake. Prince rarely did signing sessions, and back in 1988 for instance he didn't even write his name. I would be very suspicious of something like this: an item that is unlikely to exist, and moreover where each autograph is easily legible. Signing sessions aren't exactly stress-free events where each band member takes his/her time to write a nice-looking signature. Unless there's a pic of Prince & co signing that record, assume it is false.
Also: IMHO signed items are not worth the money. Besides the fact that they can easily be fake, what's the worth? If I got that signature myself it would be precious to me, but other than that...
The record store "Michelle Records" in Hamburg used to have a huge Lovesexy poster on the wall, signed by Prince. It was basically the same picture that´s used as the album cover but really huge. I don´t know whether that poster was sold at the merch stands back then.
The signature above looks a bit fake to me, too.
But, other than that, you´re right, I don´t remember him signing autographs up until the early 90s when the album came out.
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Reply #6 posted 07/28/12 8:10am
BartVanHemelen |
KoolEaze said:
But, other than that, you´re right, I don´t remember him signing autographs up until the early 90s when the album came out.
He did some before, but they were rare. Some legit items here: http://www.thedawnexperie....php?t=251 . At the 1988 signing he wrote "Love God, P88". There's a list of items in this thread: http://prince.org/msg/7/58604 :
* Signed "Uptown" 12" (pink sleeve) obtained by my mom in 1981.
* Signed "Purple Rain" LP - Prince (at a Purple Rain Concert in Chicago in 1984)
* Signed "Kiss" 7" single - Prince (at the second Parade show in Rotterdam in 1986)
* Signed "Sign "O" The Times" 12" - Prince and Cat (at Paris concert in 1987)
* Signed "LoveSexy" LP - The entire Lovesexy Band and Prince (In London after the concert 1988)
* Signed Security T-shirt for June 2nd 1990 Rotterdam concert - Prince (obtained at said concert)
* Signed 1 Dollar "Prince" bill - Prince (obtained at Torhout/Werchter 1990)
* Signed Nude Tour T-shirt - Prince (obtained at Heereveen concert 1990)
* NPG '94 band and Mayte ( didn't want to sign so I got a pick instead, I now got about 40 of his picks already) - Signed "7" Picture disc (at Glam Slam MPLS 1994)
* Signed "Exodus" LP as Tora Tora (at a Virgin megastore in London 1995)
* Signed "The Gold Experience" CD as (at Paisley Park in 1995)
* Signed "Emancipation" CD as (at New York "Jam Of The Year/Love4OneAnother" concert 1997)
* Signed 1998 Calendar - and Larry Graham (obtained at Tivoli aftershow 1998)
--- * Bobby Z. Matt Fink, Brown Mark, Wendy and Lisa - (Signed my Purple Rain Tourbook in '85)
* Wendy And Lisa - Signed "Fruit At The Bottom" and "Eroica" LP's obtained when they were at "Countdown" (dutch TV show) in 1990 and "Girlbros." CD ordered through their website.
* Sheila E. - Signed "Romance 1600" LP obtained in LA(?) in 1986.
Pictures of signing sessions in this thread: http://prince.org/msg/7/380208
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Reply #7 posted 07/28/12 4:29pm
felixcat67
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BartVanHemelen said:
KoolEaze said:
But, other than that, you´re right, I don´t remember him signing autographs up until the early 90s when the album came out.
He did some before, but they were rare. Some legit items here: http://www.thedawnexperie....php?t=251 . At the 1988 signing he wrote "Love God, P88". There's a list of items in this thread: http://prince.org/msg/7/58604 :
* Signed "Uptown" 12" (pink sleeve) obtained by my mom in 1981.
* Signed "Purple Rain" LP - Prince (at a Purple Rain Concert in Chicago in 1984)
* Signed "Kiss" 7" single - Prince (at the second Parade show in Rotterdam in 1986)
* Signed "Sign "O" The Times" 12" - Prince and Cat (at Paris concert in 1987)
* Signed "LoveSexy" LP - The entire Lovesexy Band and Prince (In London after the concert 1988)
* Signed Security T-shirt for June 2nd 1990 Rotterdam concert - Prince (obtained at said concert)
* Signed 1 Dollar "Prince" bill - Prince (obtained at Torhout/Werchter 1990)
* Signed Nude Tour T-shirt - Prince (obtained at Heereveen concert 1990)
* NPG '94 band and Mayte ( didn't want to sign so I got a pick instead, I now got about 40 of his picks already) - Signed "7" Picture disc (at Glam Slam MPLS 1994)
* Signed "Exodus" LP as Tora Tora (at a Virgin megastore in London 1995)
* Signed "The Gold Experience" CD as (at Paisley Park in 1995)
* Signed "Emancipation" CD as (at New York "Jam Of The Year/Love4OneAnother" concert 1997)
* Signed 1998 Calendar - and Larry Graham (obtained at Tivoli aftershow 1998)
--- * Bobby Z. Matt Fink, Brown Mark, Wendy and Lisa - (Signed my Purple Rain Tourbook in '85)
* Wendy And Lisa - Signed "Fruit At The Bottom" and "Eroica" LP's obtained when they were at "Countdown" (dutch TV show) in 1990 and "Girlbros." CD ordered through their website.
* Sheila E. - Signed "Romance 1600" LP obtained in LA(?) in 1986.
Pictures of signing sessions in this thread: http://prince.org/msg/7/380208
Thanks again Bart. Will check this out. Also strange that Brown Mark didnt sign it. Could be a clue when it was signed if its legit. |
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Reply #8 posted 07/29/12 9:22pm
dizzidecazz |
I don't know about this particular item but I know from my own experience, sometimes a band is expected to sign x number of item x for promo give aways etc... It is not the best thing about being a musician, sitting down signing 50 copies of some-thing-or-other. It's done when anyone can be bothered doing it, often when not everyone's around and sometimes, if the star isn't around, one of the others will sign in thier name. So in this case, you might find it was one of the other legits, who signed princes name. I'm not saying it's definately what's happened, but just saying it does happen. I've done it myself. may display symptoms of sarcasm |
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Reply #9 posted 07/30/12 1:33am
felixcat67
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dizzidecazz said:
I don't know about this particular item but I know from my own experience, sometimes a band is expected to sign x number of item x for promo give aways etc... It is not the best thing about being a musician, sitting down signing 50 copies of some-thing-or-other. It's done when anyone can be bothered doing it, often when not everyone's around and sometimes, if the star isn't around, one of the others will sign in thier name. So in this case, you might find it was one of the other legits, who signed princes name. I'm not saying it's definately what's happened, but just saying it does happen. I've done it myself.
Thanks for the info. This could be the case. Also, I noticed all different colors used by the group to sign there names which could mean they were there all at the same time. |
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Reply #10 posted 07/31/12 11:49am
Orionforever |
I have Princes signature.. from 88 signed at Paisley park and given to a very good friend of mine for me..
If you want to email me I can take a picture of it for you.. I have no idea how to put pictures on here.. LOL Ok.. YES I am stupid.... ;o) but the Sig. I have is 100% REAL...
No doubt about it..
Please send me an Org. note with your email adress if you want to see it.
take it easy... |
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Reply #11 posted 07/31/12 4:54pm
felixcat67
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Orionforever said:
I have Princes signature.. from 88 signed at Paisley park and given to a very good friend of mine for me..
If you want to email me I can take a picture of it for you.. I have no idea how to put pictures on here.. LOL Ok.. YES I am stupid.... ;o) but the Sig. I have is 100% REAL...
No doubt about it..
Please send me an Org. note with your email adress if you want to see it.
take it easy...
Thanks!! Will do. I also believe if this was signed legit, it was from the early 80`s. Also I been comparing Prince`s signatures on the internet and he seemed to signed them a little different in certain time periods. P. S. Your not stupid at all. I find ya smart. |
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Reply #12 posted 07/31/12 4:59pm
kewlschool
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Doesn't look like Prince's signature to me. I think it's a fake
His signature has more flare than the one on this album cover. 99.9% of everything I say is strictly for my own entertainment |
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Reply #13 posted 07/31/12 5:11pm
felixcat67
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kewlschool said:
Doesn't look like Prince's signature to me. I think it's a fake
His signature has more flare than the one on this album cover.
Thanks for your input. Ya the others seem legit but his was questionable. I would like to contact the band to see if they remember this being signed with Prince there. |
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Reply #14 posted 07/31/12 5:31pm
kewlschool
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felixcat67 said:
kewlschool said:
Doesn't look like Prince's signature to me. I think it's a fake
His signature has more flare than the one on this album cover.
Thanks for your input. Ya the others seem legit but his was questionable. I would like to contact the band to see if they remember this being signed with Prince there.
The other signatures could be real-but not Princes. 99.9% of everything I say is strictly for my own entertainment |
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Reply #15 posted 07/31/12 11:10pm
unique |
Orionforever said:
I have Princes signature.. from 88 signed at Paisley park and given to a very good friend of mine for me..
If you want to email me I can take a picture of it for you.. I have no idea how to put pictures on here.. LOL Ok.. YES I am stupid.... ;o) but the Sig. I have is 100% REAL...
No doubt about it..
Please send me an Org. note with your email adress if you want to see it.
take it easy...
[img:$uid]http://i46.tinypic.com/m8i4w8.jpg[/img:$uid]
thanks for the pic, i've uploaded it her for you |
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Reply #16 posted 08/01/12 10:33am
felixcat67
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unique said:
Orionforever said:
I have Princes signature.. from 88 signed at Paisley park and given to a very good friend of mine for me..
If you want to email me I can take a picture of it for you.. I have no idea how to put pictures on here.. LOL Ok.. YES I am stupid.... ;o) but the Sig. I have is 100% REAL...
No doubt about it..
Please send me an Org. note with your email adress if you want to see it.
take it easy...
[img:$uid]http://i46.tinypic.com/m8i4w8.jpg[/img:$uid]
thanks for the pic, i've uploaded it her for you
Great Pic! Thanks |
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Reply #17 posted 08/01/12 10:55am
nursev |
Fake the curvature in the P looks all kindsa wrong to me |
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Reply #18 posted 08/01/12 10:56am
nursev |
Yeah now that im looking at it better-Prince's curvature in his P is slanted and lower |
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Reply #19 posted 08/01/12 11:18am
excited |
unique said:
Orionforever said:
I have Princes signature.. from 88 signed at Paisley park and given to a very good friend of mine for me..
If you want to email me I can take a picture of it for you.. I have no idea how to put pictures on here.. LOL Ok.. YES I am stupid.... ;o) but the Sig. I have is 100% REAL...
No doubt about it..
Please send me an Org. note with your email adress if you want to see it.
take it easy...
[img:$uid]http://i46.tinypic.com/m8i4w8.jpg[/img:$uid]
thanks for the pic, i've uploaded it her for you
'hove jod?!!.. |
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Reply #20 posted 08/01/12 12:07pm
unique |
[img:$uid]http://www.guide2prince.org/pics/plec1.jpg[/img:$uid]
love god plectrum for comparison |
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Reply #21 posted 08/01/12 6:33pm
jmfd |
^ the one above looks pretty darn good to me. The one at the top of the page, not. |
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Reply #22 posted 08/02/12 1:55am
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