I remember ?uestlove saying this some time ago. I think I have to agree.

Because there's not that many outtakes from 78-81. Well, there's a lot stuff from 77-79. The albums from 78-81 are great don't get me wrong, but those are the albums that people like to mess with and add tracks that wasn't on the albums.

From '82-'87, those albums were perfect, well people wanted the extended version of "Computer Blue", and they wanted "She's Always In My Hair" on Around The World In A Day. Matter of fact, this is a time where people wanted certain tracks on an album also. He's too prolific I guess.

There were some gems from the years after also, "If I Love U 2Night", "Pink Cashmere" etc...

But do you agree with that original question?

I think it's generally accepted that Prince's white heat period was just that era yes, give or take a year or two - It certainly his most critical and commercially successful run no doubt. When you look at the studio recording dates, it seemed like there were classic songs pouring out of the Paisley camp every day, sometimes several a day.

We all have our favourite eras and albums, but I think anyone who disagrees with this general assessment would being doing so just to be contrary.

FYI: If I Love U 2Night is originally from '79 and Pink Cashmere is only from '88 too

NouveauDance said:

I think it's generally accepted that Prince's white heat period was just that era yes, give or take a year or two - It certainly his most critical and commercially successful run no doubt. When you look at the studio recording dates, it seemed like there were classic songs pouring out of the Paisley camp every day, sometimes several a day.

We all have our favourite eras and albums, but I think anyone who disagrees with this general assessment would being doing so just to be contrary.

FYI: If I Love U 2Night is originally from '79 and Pink Cashmere is only from '88 too

I'm talking about the version he recorded in '87. I'm not a fan of the 79 version.

But thanks though.

I'm guessing your favorite album is Controversy?

No arguement here

Now remember in the Dirty Mind-Controversy years Prince & band had the Rebels sessions also the recordings of the 1st Time album which his band had a lot of input in, so I can see why there might not have been a lot of Controversy era outtakes for the album itself

"The Rebels" Project

Studio Outtakes

1. You

2. Too Long

3. Loving You

4. Thrill You Or Kill You

5. Disco Away

6. Instrumental

7. Instrumental

8. If I Love You Tonight

9. Turn Me On

10. Baby Baby Baby

11. Nadeara

Controversy Outtakes:

New Positions & Strange Relationship(?)was also on record as being started in this period and W&L brought it up later for Parade

Broken

Feel U Up

Irresistible Bitch
The Second Coming

She's Just A Baby

Tick, Tick, Bang

the 1976-1978years tons of demos and outtakes of course

When I look at his 1977-1987 years it seemed to move so fast before an album and tour was complete the next one was ready to come out.

the 1982-1986 era as far as music produced in volumes was huge

the 1985/1986* has no competition ever.

1985-1986

Empty Room, Joy in Repetition, Grand Procession, Eternity, Can I Play With U?

Adonis & Bathsheba, Go, Splash, Wonderful Ass,

There's Others Here With Us, Old Friends 4 Sale, All My Dreams, Heaven, An Honest Man, Neon Telephone, It's A Wonderful Day, Mia Bocca, An Honest Man,

Love or Money, Alexa De Paris

Power Fantastic, In A Large Room With No Lights, Teacher Teacher, Sexual Suicide, Witness 4 the Prosecution(2 versions), Big Tall Wall, Data Bank, Ball, We Can Funk, Can't Stop This Feeling I Got, Girl O My Dreams, Movie Star, Last Heart, Crystal Ball, Dream Factory, Train

Sign o the Time, Play inthe Sunshine, Rock Hard in a Funky Place, Ballad of Dorothy Parker, It, Forever in My Life, Slow Love(cowriter) ICNTTPOYM, the Cross, Strange Relationship etc etc etc

Sheila E music

Camille music

Sheila E Birthday Party music started recording in the period ie most of the Black album

Most of the music Prince presented for himself on the Graffiti Bridge album from the 1986 years

• Junk Music
• U Got 2 Shake Something
• Up from Below
• Y'All Want Some More?
• A Couple of Miles
• It's Gonna Be a Beautiful Night (prob falls in this catagory)

12.28.1985-1.22.1986

Mobile" (referring to Mobile, Alabama) was a bluesy piece. Similarly "12 Keys" featured mmany key changes (the song incorporates a portion of the melody of "The Question Of U").

Voodoo Who" and "Finest Whisky" "Tibet"

"Up From Below", "Y'all Want Some More?" and "A Couple Of Miles"

"Groove in C Minor"
"Slow Groove in G Major"
"Groove in G Flat Minor"
"Junk Music"
"Up From Below"
"Y'all Want Some More?"
"Slaughterhouse"
"U Just Can't Stop"
"Run Amok"
"Mobile"
"Madrid"
"Breathless"
"High Colonic"
"12 Keys"

No. Starting in '82 ignores Dirty Mind - which is how it really started.

Genesia said:

No. Starting in '82 ignores Dirty Mind - which is how it really started.

Yeah, that's true. But Dirty Mind is like the brother of Controversy. Nothing really change between '80 and '81. 1999 was nothing like Controversy.

Dee1991 said:

Genesia said:

No. Starting in '82 ignores Dirty Mind - which is how it really started.

Yeah, that's true. But Dirty Mind is like the brother of Controversy. Nothing really change between '80 and '81. 1999 was nothing like Controversy.

Excuse me?!

Dirty Mind is not "the brother of Controversy." Dirty Mind is the father of everything that came after. It is the album that marks the creation of Prince's sound - the blend of funk, punk and rock that became the "Minneapolis sound." Without Dirty Mind, there is no 1999. Period.

To dismiss Dirty Mind as, "Oh, yeah - that one" is just ignorant.

Genesia said:

Dee1991 said:

Yeah, that's true. But Dirty Mind is like the brother of Controversy. Nothing really change between '80 and '81. 1999 was nothing like Controversy.

Excuse me?!

Dirty Mind is not "the brother of Controversy." Dirty Mind is the father of everything that came after. It is the album that marks the creation of Prince's sound - the blend of funk, punk and rock that became the "Minneapolis sound." Without Dirty Mind, there is no 1999. Period.

To dismiss Dirty Mind as, "Oh, yeah - that one" is just ignorant.

Dirty Mind is a classic no doubt about that. Yeah it started the whole "MPLS Sound" thing. I'm saying that his creativity was the best from '82-'87. Controversy is Dirty Mind II.

Purple Rain doesn't really sound like 1999. Around The World In A Day is kind of differnt from Purple Rain. Parade has some moments that reminds people of Around The World In A Day. And Sign sounds nothing like Parade. You see what I'm saying? He kind of repeated himself with Controversy. But Dirty Mind is still gold to me.

Dee1991 said:

Genesia said:

Excuse me?!

Dirty Mind is not "the brother of Controversy." Dirty Mind is the father of everything that came after. It is the album that marks the creation of Prince's sound - the blend of funk, punk and rock that became the "Minneapolis sound." Without Dirty Mind, there is no 1999. Period.

To dismiss Dirty Mind as, "Oh, yeah - that one" is just ignorant.

Dirty Mind is a classic no doubt about that. Yeah it started the whole "MPLS Sound" thing. I'm saying that his creativity was the best from '82-'87. Controversy is Dirty Mind II.

Purple Rain doesn't really sound like 1999. Around The World In A Day is kind of differnt from Purple Rain. Parade has some moments that reminds people of Around The World In A Day. And Sign sounds nothing like Parade. You see what I'm saying? He kind of repeated himself with Controversy. But Dirty Mind is still gold to me.

"[R]epeated himself with Controversy"? Controversy is nothing like Dirty Mind!

Seriously, honey - get yourself some Q-Tips and go to town on that wax in your ears.

Dirty Mind is not merely "a classic." It is the groundbreaking Prince album. Until you get hip to that, we have nothing to talk about.

Genesia said:

Dee1991 said:

Dirty Mind is a classic no doubt about that. Yeah it started the whole "MPLS Sound" thing. I'm saying that his creativity was the best from '82-'87. Controversy is Dirty Mind II.

Purple Rain doesn't really sound like 1999. Around The World In A Day is kind of differnt from Purple Rain. Parade has some moments that reminds people of Around The World In A Day. And Sign sounds nothing like Parade. You see what I'm saying? He kind of repeated himself with Controversy. But Dirty Mind is still gold to me.

"[R]epeated himself with Controversy"? Controversy is nothing like Dirty Mind!

Seriously, honey - get yourself some Q-Tips and go to town on that wax in your ears.

Dirty Mind is not merely "a classic." It is the groundbreaking Prince album. Until you get hip to that, we have nothing to talk about.

I understand how great Dirty Mind is trust me. It was once my favorite album.

The title tracks mirror each other a little. "Controversy" is funkier though. They both have tracks that pay homage to the 60's, "Jack U Off" and "When You Were Mine". Both have straight forward sex songs "Head" and "Jack U Off". Theres some similarities with these albums. I'm just saying that the fact that he kind of repeated himself, I had to skip to 1999.

Both of these albums were my favorite at one point in time. I'm a Parade type of guy.

For me? No.

I think by 'Dirty Mind' Prince had found his stride. From there he continued to release great music up until 'The Gold Experience'. Although there is a strong argument in my opinion that 'Emancipation' should also be included... probably not but blimey, how many other artists would A) think about, and B) actually write a song about chatting on the internet BEFORE the majority of people had access to the internet. It might not be the best song ever, but creative and experimental it most certainly was.

I suppose technically that makes it 1980 - 1995, although much/most of 'Gold' I think was recorded a year or two before that. So perhaps 1980 - 1993/4.

I mean come on, when you're rhyming off Prince songs, can we really dismiss the likes of:

Joy in repitition

Question of U

Cream

Money Don't matter

Gett off

Sexy MF

Gold

Most Beautiful Girl In the world (ok so we could maybe dismiss this one, but only because it was such a success it was played to death, I think he's written other more vomit enducing ballads)

I think Prince was still strong (although possibly lacking some direction) well into the mid 90's. He was still producing hit singles, still writing great songs in terms of being commercial but also the lesser known and more experimental songs 'Shy' '3 Chains'. The guy still had something to say. Perhaps more importantly something to fight for.

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well if u mean by popularity then yes......but if u mean personal taste...then 4 me.....i love the gold experience period....the mid 90's............I go back 2 them songs more than the 80s...apart from Adore

Genesia said:

Dee1991 said:

Dirty Mind is a classic no doubt about that. Yeah it started the whole "MPLS Sound" thing. I'm saying that his creativity was the best from '82-'87. Controversy is Dirty Mind II.

Purple Rain doesn't really sound like 1999. Around The World In A Day is kind of differnt from Purple Rain. Parade has some moments that reminds people of Around The World In A Day. And Sign sounds nothing like Parade. You see what I'm saying? He kind of repeated himself with Controversy. But Dirty Mind is still gold to me.

"[R]epeated himself with Controversy"? Controversy is nothing like Dirty Mind!

Seriously, honey - get yourself some Q-Tips and go to town on that wax in your ears.

Dirty Mind is not merely "a classic." It is the groundbreaking Prince album. Until you get hip to that, we have nothing to talk about.

Why so rude? He's not exactly refuting what you're saying.

---

Anyway, back on topic. I can agree, yes. However, the man does so much, it's hard to judge. He could of done a lot of music we don't even know about in a different time period that rivals it. The difference being that we are unbeknownst to it.

Here's another thing, whilst i can agree with the fact '80 - '88 is his best years (always subjective), and i do feel he's rivalled it and at times beat it since then, when it comes to outakes, i feel much more inclined to hear outakes from newer years, specifically the mysterious big creative phase he had from '04 - '06 in which he recorded a mass amount of music that has been spread over all albums up until Lotusflow3r, with many still unreleased (F.U.N.K. was one he chose to unleash from those sessions singularly).

Then you have all the other tracks recorded in-between like the ones for the supposed Amarna project (Turn Me Loose?) or the 3 disc would-of-been MPLSoUND that was reported. I'm a lot more intrigued by these outakes than the '80 - '88 era for example.

Furthermore, i'm also much more intrigued to hear all his new recordings that he's been doing lately too. I remember he said he's always three albums ahead and that he had multiple albums to go during the 20ten era.....I think to put simply, i'm more intrigued to hear newer unreleased stuff lol and that puts a bit of confusion onto what i believe is his best time for me.

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Noodled24 said:

For me? No.

I think by 'Dirty Mind' Prince had found his stride. From there he continued to release great music up until 'The Gold Experience'. Although there is a strong argument in my opinion that 'Emancipation' should also be included.

Technically that makes it 1980 - 1995, although much/most of 'Gold' I think was recorded a year or two before that. So perhaps 1980 - 1993/4.

I mean come on, when you're rhyming off Prince songs, can we really dismiss the likes of:

Joy in repitition

Question of U

Cream

Money Don't matter

Gett off

Sexy MF

Gold

Most Beautiful Girl In the world (ok so we could maybe dismiss this one, but only because it was such a success it was played to death, I think he's written other more vomit enducing ballads)

I think Prince was still strong (although possibly lacking some direction) well into the mid 90's. He was still producing hit singles, still writing great songs in terms of being commercial but also the lesser known and more experimental songs 'Shy' '3 Chains'. The guy still had something to say. Perhaps more importantly something to fight for.

"The Most Beautiful Girl..." is a great song.

I dig 6 songs on Lovesexy, but it's not a fun listen to me. Batman is alright, "Electric Chair", "Scandalous", "Partyman, "Vicki Waiting" and "The Future" are great. From '90-'95 is was...alright. I really like Come, that title track is insane.

Noodled24 said:

For me? No.

I think by 'Dirty Mind' Prince had found his stride. From there he continued to release great music up until 'The Gold Experience'. Although there is a strong argument in my opinion that 'Emancipation' should also be included... probably not but blimey, how many other artists would A) think about, and B) actually write a song about chatting on the internet BEFORE the majority of people had access to the internet. It might not be the best song ever, but creative and experimental it most certainly was.

I suppose technically that makes it 1980 - 1995, although much/most of 'Gold' I think was recorded a year or two before that. So perhaps 1980 - 1993/4.

I mean come on, when you're rhyming off Prince songs, can we really dismiss the likes of:

Joy in repitition

Question of U

Cream

Money Don't matter

Gett off

Sexy MF

Gold

Most Beautiful Girl In the world (ok so we could maybe dismiss this one, but only because it was such a success it was played to death, I think he's written other more vomit enducing ballads)

I think Prince was still strong (although possibly lacking some direction) well into the mid 90's. He was still producing hit singles, still writing great songs in terms of being commercial but also the lesser known and more experimental songs 'Shy' '3 Chains'. The guy still had something to say. Perhaps more importantly something to fight for.

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I don't think you can include all those years, i believe it's common knowledge that the largest output of music, most still unreleased is from the 1983-1986 period

and Joy in Repitition was created in 1986 Dream Factory sessions as well as Question of U like most of the Prince performed tracks on Graffiti Bridge including Chocolate(PR era) Jerk Out(1986 era 4 Mazarati)

Dee1991 said:

Noodled24 said:

For me? No.

I think by 'Dirty Mind' Prince had found his stride. From there he continued to release great music up until 'The Gold Experience'. Although there is a strong argument in my opinion that 'Emancipation' should also be included.

Technically that makes it 1980 - 1995, although much/most of 'Gold' I think was recorded a year or two before that. So perhaps 1980 - 1993/4.

I mean come on, when you're rhyming off Prince songs, can we really dismiss the likes of:

Joy in repitition

Question of U

Cream

Money Don't matter

Gett off

Sexy MF

Gold

Most Beautiful Girl In the world (ok so we could maybe dismiss this one, but only because it was such a success it was played to death, I think he's written other more vomit enducing ballads)

I think Prince was still strong (although possibly lacking some direction) well into the mid 90's. He was still producing hit singles, still writing great songs in terms of being commercial but also the lesser known and more experimental songs 'Shy' '3 Chains'. The guy still had something to say. Perhaps more importantly something to fight for.

"The Most Beautiful Girl..." is a great song.

I dig 6 songs on Lovesexy, but it's not a fun listen to me. Batman is alright, "Electric Chair", "Scandalous", "Partyman, "Vicki Waiting" and "The Future" are great. From '90-'95 is was...alright. I really like Come, that title track is insane.

1988-1989 seemed to start to Prince a lot of creativity during the Lovesexy era for possible Rave Un2 the Joy album & Batman album, but it didn't go far with the new hopes of GB in the process

it was just a spark and once he changed the band line up again I think that quenched a lot of it

OldFriends4Sale said:

Dee1991 said:

"The Most Beautiful Girl..." is a great song.

I dig 6 songs on Lovesexy, but it's not a fun listen to me. Batman is alright, "Electric Chair", "Scandalous", "Partyman, "Vicki Waiting" and "The Future" are great. From '90-'95 is was...alright. I really like Come, that title track is insane.

1988-1989 seemed to start to Prince a lot of creativity during the Lovesexy era for possible Rave Un2 the Joy album & Batman album, but it didn't go far with the new hopes of GB in the process

it was just a spark and once he changed the band line up again I think that quenched a lot of it

He should've kept the Sign era band.

Dee1991 said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

1988-1989 seemed to start to Prince a lot of creativity during the Lovesexy era for possible Rave Un2 the Joy album & Batman album, but it didn't go far with the new hopes of GB in the process

it was just a spark and once he changed the band line up again I think that quenched a lot of it

He should've kept the Sign era band.

I said the same, 1.) 99% percent were a part of that 1983-1986 era in various forms 2.) they didn't have a chance to mesh before the line up change. the visuals alone I lost interest

OldFriends4Sale said:

Dee1991 said:

He should've kept the Sign era band.

I said the same, 1.) 99% percent were a part of that 1983-1986 era in various forms 2.) they didn't have a chance to mesh before the line up change. the visuals alone I lost interest

Matter of fact, the Parade era band wasn't a joke neither.

Dee1991 said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

I said the same, 1.) 99% percent were a part of that 1983-1986 era in various forms 2.) they didn't have a chance to mesh before the line up change. the visuals alone I lost interest

Matter of fact, the Parade era band wasn't a joke neither.

Definately not,

there was a level of layers that the Parade band had that the SOTT was missing

Just from the switch of Lisa 2 Boni alone, Lisa had some dense etherial melodic stuff that was seriously missing after she left

OldFriends4Sale said:

Noodled24 said:

For me? No.

I think by 'Dirty Mind' Prince had found his stride. From there he continued to release great music up until 'The Gold Experience'. Although there is a strong argument in my opinion that 'Emancipation' should also be included... probably not but blimey, how many other artists would A) think about, and B) actually write a song about chatting on the internet BEFORE the majority of people had access to the internet. It might not be the best song ever, but creative and experimental it most certainly was.

I suppose technically that makes it 1980 - 1995, although much/most of 'Gold' I think was recorded a year or two before that. So perhaps 1980 - 1993/4.

I mean come on, when you're rhyming off Prince songs, can we really dismiss the likes of:

Joy in repitition

Question of U

Cream

Money Don't matter

Gett off

Sexy MF

Gold

Most Beautiful Girl In the world (ok so we could maybe dismiss this one, but only because it was such a success it was played to death, I think he's written other more vomit enducing ballads)

I think Prince was still strong (although possibly lacking some direction) well into the mid 90's. He was still producing hit singles, still writing great songs in terms of being commercial but also the lesser known and more experimental songs 'Shy' '3 Chains'. The guy still had something to say. Perhaps more importantly something to fight for.

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I don't think you can include all those years, i believe it's common knowledge that the largest output of music, most still unreleased is from the 1983-1986 period

and Joy in Repitition was created in 1986 Dream Factory sessions as well as Question of U like most of the Prince performed tracks on Graffiti Bridge including Chocolate(PR era) Jerk Out(1986 era 4 Mazarati)

Pretty sure I can include all those years. If only for the reasons I stated.

I'm not sure what you mean when you say that the largest output of music was from a seemingly arbitrarily selected 3 year period? I'm sure he's had equally as prolific periods. There are still likely loads of unheard outtakes recorded with the 'gold era NPG' along with all the multiple versions/mixes of the same songs for example. Also I'd argue that "best years" doesnt necessarily mean most prolific.

I do stand corrected on the dates of JIR and QOU - but those dates still fall into the 1980 - 1993/4/5 period I mentioned. Just depends if we're talking about when songs were recorded or when they were released. Which is a fair call because I mentioned TGE tracks being recorded earlier than the albums release.

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OldFriends4Sale said:

Dee1991 said:

Matter of fact, the Parade era band wasn't a joke neither.

Definately not,

there was a level of layers that the Parade band had that the SOTT was missing

Just from the switch of Lisa 2 Boni alone, Lisa had some dense etherial melodic stuff that was seriously missing after she left

Prince was on his Sly Stone thing back in '86-'87. Boni reminds me of what Rose Stone was to Sly.

OldFriends4Sale said:

the 1985/1986* has no competition ever.

I agree with you especially about this. In 1986 alone, he recorded most of SOTT (Dream Factory/Camille/Crystal Ball) and The Black Album, and Madhouse 8, plus the release of Parade (mainly recorded in '85) and the Parade Tour. The amount of styles covered in this year is unbeatable.

Dee1991 said:

I'm guessing your favorite album is Controversy?

Controversy and Parade are probably forever in my top 2 yeah.

With regards to the DM/Contro/1999 discussion, I've said my mantra a million times over the years, but I think Contro is like a proto-1999 as opposed to the "Dirty Mind retread" it has often been tarred with. I think he followed the structure/tracking of DM closely with Contro, but musically it points clearly to 1999. It's the missing link between that spark of genius on DM and the confident superstar on 1999 - I think that's why I like Contro. it's still quite rough around the edges. Probably the same reason why I favour Parade over SOTT.

That's one thing I like about Prince's catalogue in general, nothing really comes out of nowhere. When you put all the albums, b-sides, protege releases and unreleased material chronologically you can go "Oh yeah, I see how X leads to Y."

Noodled24 said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

I don't think you can include all those years, i believe it's common knowledge that the largest output of music, most still unreleased is from the 1983-1986 period

and Joy in Repitition was created in 1986 Dream Factory sessions as well as Question of U like most of the Prince performed tracks on Graffiti Bridge including Chocolate(PR era) Jerk Out(1986 era 4 Mazarati)

Pretty sure I can include all those years. If only for the reasons I stated.

I'm not sure what you mean when you say that the largest output of music was from a seemingly arbitrarily selected 3 year period? I'm sure he's had equally as prolific periods. There are still likely loads of unheard outtakes recorded with the 'gold era NPG' along with all the multiple versions/mixes of the same songs for example. Also I'd argue that "best years" doesnt necessarily mean most prolific.

I do stand corrected on the dates of JIR and QOU - but those dates still fall into the 1980 - 1993/4/5 period I mentioned. Just depends if we're talking about when songs were recorded or when they were released. Which is a fair call because I mentioned TGE tracks being recorded earlier than the albums release.

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I say that because as of now, we have the record of a vast amount of music with different styles and directions just from the 1986 yrs alone, I don't think any others you can pull up the info to back that say the Gold era had the same. Just by the fact that you said "There are likely..." which means you don't know for sure, but if you have the facts of some degree. We can pull up and I have in just small details the vast amount of music that came out of the 1985/86 period

Also I don't think you can include a song 'created' into a period much later. That would misrepresent what was happening at the time period. Most of the people in the Prince camp and band at the time of GB had nothing to do with the music and weren't even in prince camp at the time.

For example. He released Power Fantastic officially when? How can the people who were with him at the time receive any credit for a song that was created and completed by the full Revolution band in Prince's newly created home studio in 1986 and the composition as well was by Lisa Coleman.

Most people don't include that vast of time especially since those mostly inthe band and his camp in the 1980's were not there in the 1990's. The GB period can't truthfully be credited for the music created in 1985/86.

(pr-lfk)

NouveauDance said:

Dee1991 said:

I'm guessing your favorite album is Controversy?

Controversy and Parade are probably forever in my top 2 yeah.

With regards to the DM/Contro/1999 discussion, I've said my mantra a million times over the years, but I think Contro is like a proto-1999 as opposed to the "Dirty Mind retread" it has often been tarred with. I think he followed the structure/tracking of DM closely with Contro, but musically it points clearly to 1999. It's the missing link between that spark of genius on DM and the confident superstar on 1999 - I think that's why I like Contro. it's still quite rough around the edges. Probably the same reason why I favour Parade over SOTT.

That's one thing I like about Prince's catalogue in general, nothing really comes out of nowhere. When you put all the albums, b-sides, protege releases and unreleased material chronologically you can go "Oh yeah, I see how X leads to Y."

Oh that's cool, I'm a Parade fan myself. That album is a trip when your a certain climate, and listening to it with some awesome headphones.

But to me Controvery sounds more like Dirty Mind. But we all hear different things so hey. I just don't hear nothing on 1999 that reminds me of Controversy.

Nope. 1978-1984 was the best and 1985-1989 was the second best.

I say 1981 - 1988.

NeonCraxx said:

I say 1981 - 1988.

lol basically

might as well sum it up like that lol

vainandy said:

Nope. 1978-1984 was the best and 1985-1989 was the second best.

from what it seems is most of us agree it's that 1978-1989 period lol no matter who we stretch it or break it up