irinact said:

GIOShokadelica said:

I dont think he'll quit right now. But Selling Music For him has become harder than before, because the industry Has changed. To sell music Right Now he needs to use Itunes, Youtube, and stuff Like that, And He refuses to do it. It's not Like you go to a store and wait for hours Till you get your LP, Times are changing And you don't even need to go Out of your house to buy something...

It would be great If he takes his time to rest of the business and then He starts to make music again...

Exactly. That's why Prince should do something that would be interesting to the majority of people.

He could start with something like AI or The Voice judge. Or make his own musical show on TV that would attract viewers with different backgrounds and ages.

U must be out your damn mind! lol

HonestMan13 said:

"Prince is this...", "Prince is that..." and not a single person other than Prince knows for sure what Prince is feeling and what he's got planned. Everytime he takes a noticeable break between projects these "boredom" threads pop up then as soon as something gets released the "he needs a break" threads start. Pop a vicodin and settle down.

AMEN!!!

I feel so sorry for some of these people on the Org. Many will die unsatisfied, bored and miserable fans. I'm sooooo glad I'm not in that group. I know its a matter of opinion, but I enjoy many of his recent songs and look forward to new music because each album always has a few gems. I also enjoy his live concerts. The 80"s are gone and I'm just a realist. I don't expect anybody to be the same. I know I'm not the same person as I was in my 20's so why the heck would I demand that of another person. YOu look at any artist that was big in the 70's and 80's and how they are now, its just the norm. I also don't see Prince as lazy. I don't think that he would have lasted 30 years in the business if he was lazy. I've never heard anyone who actually worked with him call him lazy. (except for maybe Wendy and Lisa chuckling about his 20Ten release on the red carpet haha). And like someone said, Prince is damned if he does and damned if he don't. Many of you have not liked anything he has done in 20 years, yet you complain that he's not doing the new songs that you hate in his concerts???

This is not to say that some should not give their honest opinion or express their continued dissappointment, its just my observation over the past years that many will be dissappointed forever and Prince will never please some people.

[Edited 7/24/12 9:44am]

wonder505 said:

HonestMan13 said:

"Prince is this...", "Prince is that..." and not a single person other than Prince knows for sure what Prince is feeling and what he's got planned. Everytime he takes a noticeable break between projects these "boredom" threads pop up then as soon as something gets released the "he needs a break" threads start. Pop a vicodin and settle down.

AMEN!!!

I feel so sorry for some of these people on the Org. Many will die unsatisfied, bored and miserable fans. I'm sooooo glad I'm not in that group. I know its a matter of opinion, but I enjoy many of his recent songs and look forward to new music because each album always has a few gems. I also enjoy his live concerts. The 80"s are gone and I'm just a realist. I don't expect anybody to be the same. I know I'm not the same person as I was in my 20's so why the heck would I demand that of another person. YOu look at any artist that was big in the 70's and 80's and how they are now, its just the norm. I also don't see Prince as lazy. I don't think that he would have lasted 30 years in the business if he was lazy. I've never heard anyone who actually worked with him call him lazy. (except for maybe Wendy and Lisa chuckling about his 20Ten release on the red carpet haha). And like someone said, Prince is damned if he does and damned if he don't. Many of you have not liked anything he has done in 20 years, yet you complain that he's not doing the new songs that you hate in his concerts???

[Edited 7/24/12 9:28am]

electricberet said:

Can someone remind me why I keep coming into this forum?

Probably because you are a naysayer to the question of this thread...

HonestMan13 said:

wonder505 said:

jayARDAHB said:

wonder505 said:

AMEN!!!

I feel so sorry for some of these people on the Org. Many will die unsatisfied, bored and miserable fans. I'm sooooo glad I'm not in that group. I know its a matter of opinion, but I enjoy many of his recent songs and look forward to new music because each album always has a few gems. I also enjoy his live concerts. The 80"s are gone and I'm just a realist. I don't expect anybody to be the same. I know I'm not the same person as I was in my 20's so why the heck would I demand that of another person. YOu look at any artist that was big in the 70's and 80's and how they are now, its just the norm. I also don't see Prince as lazy. I don't think that he would have lasted 30 years in the business if he was lazy. I've never heard anyone who actually worked with him call him lazy. (except for maybe Wendy and Lisa chuckling about his 20Ten release on the red carpet haha). And like someone said, Prince is damned if he does and damned if he don't. Many of you have not liked anything he has done in 20 years, yet you complain that he's not doing the new songs that you hate in his concerts???

This is not to say that some should not give their honest opinion or express their continued dissappointment, its just my observation over the past years that many will be dissappointed forever and Prince will never please some people.

[Edited 7/24/12 9:44am]

I think I can speak for some of us who aren't totally fond of the 'new' Prince in that we didn't expect him to be the same guy he was 25 years ago. Everyone changes but the things he champions now and has been for quite some time are pretty disheartening. I was drawn to Prince's music and his world for a variety of reasons including what appeared to be his acceptance of people for who they were. Unfortunately, he appears to have become very publicly homophobic which is disappointing for obvious reasons. He also went through a period where he appeared to be very concerned with being number one 'at the bank'. For a guy who was admired for his artistic integrity, it was sad to see him turn into a very business concerned 'artist'. Anyhow, I still follow the guy because he still has a gem or two on each record but it's become very clear to many of us that he guy is bored and naturally, I would be to if I were doing the same job for over 40 years. Just my thoughts, Jay [Edited 7/24/12 19:33pm]

You make a lot of assumptions about a man you personally don't know. You talk about how he is now which leads me to believe that you assume that he was Mr. Nice guy back in the 80's too which I find ironic. You also assume that he was never about the business at the bank until recently, how do you know for sure first hand that he was not like that either back in the 80's as well? why because he was doing music that you liked? Also I doubt Prince look at what he is doing as a "job". Its his life passion. All I can say, is that he is not best businessman, other than that, because I enjoy most of his recent work I still admire his "artistic integrity". People who don't like his recent work will feel that he is lazy because his output is not to their liking which is fine from an opinion standpointl

All Prince has to do is let his hair grow back and come back to Vegas!!!! lol!!!!!He will be just fine, ill make sure , promise, lmao!!!!!

irinact said:

Exactly. That's why Prince should do something that would be interesting to the majority of people.

Say what!?!

Please the majority instead of performing his art?

I am not saying that both can be the same but I must stress that both can also be wildly different.

jayARDAHB said:

wonder505 said:

AMEN!!!

I feel so sorry for some of these people on the Org. Many will die unsatisfied, bored and miserable fans. I'm sooooo glad I'm not in that group. I know its a matter of opinion, but I enjoy many of his recent songs and look forward to new music because each album always has a few gems. I also enjoy his live concerts. The 80"s are gone and I'm just a realist. I don't expect anybody to be the same. I know I'm not the same person as I was in my 20's so why the heck would I demand that of another person. YOu look at any artist that was big in the 70's and 80's and how they are now, its just the norm. I also don't see Prince as lazy. I don't think that he would have lasted 30 years in the business if he was lazy. I've never heard anyone who actually worked with him call him lazy. (except for maybe Wendy and Lisa chuckling about his 20Ten release on the red carpet haha). And like someone said, Prince is damned if he does and damned if he don't. Many of you have not liked anything he has done in 20 years, yet you complain that he's not doing the new songs that you hate in his concerts???

This is not to say that some should not give their honest opinion or express their continued dissappointment, its just my observation over the past years that many will be dissappointed forever and Prince will never please some people.

[Edited 7/24/12 9:44am]

I think I can speak for some of us who aren't totally fond of the 'new' Prince in that we didn't expect him to be the same guy he was 25 years ago. Everyone changes but the things he champions now and has been for quite some time are pretty disheartening. I was drawn to Prince's music and his world for a variety of reasons including what appeared to be his acceptance of people for who they were. Unfortunately, he appears to have become very publicly homophobic which is disappointing for obvious reasons. He also went through a period where he appeared to be very concerned with being number one 'at the bank'. For a guy who was admired for his artistic integrity, it was sad to see him turn into a very business concerned 'artist'. Anyhow, I still follow the guy because he still has a gem or two on each record but it's become very clear to many of us that he guy is bored and naturally, I would be to if I were doing the same job for over 40 years. Just my thoughts, Jay [Edited 7/24/12 19:33pm]

And while you are pondering Prince's predicaments how is your music doing? Are you topping the charts with everything you claim he should be doing right now? Uh no! Maybe when you're 30 years into to the game you'll have more pertinent insights for him to follow and yourself as well. Is Prince bored or are you bored with Prince? If nothing he does moves you then I'd choose the latter. Some fans still enjoy his output but because you don't then there's something wrong? Really now?

Who cares what Prince is feeling/thinking? I judge solely by the music (okay, and the lyrics, which ruin songs like All The Midnights & The Word).

If you can't hear how bad 99% of it is, you must be one of the deaf kids he played concerts for back in the eighties....

Spanky said:

Spinlight said:

Calm down, psycho. You are no better.

I suggested Prince bit an MC Hammer lyric a couple of weeks ago and was told I shouldn't post on the Org anymore and was ridiculed beyond belief. And some fucker wishes death on Prince and he's defended?!? Fuck that bullshit.

The org has some twisted shit ha'nen.

Spanky out.

Thats what Im sayin. People just look for a reason to talk shit on here.

wonder505 said:

HonestMan13 said:

"Prince is this...", "Prince is that..." and not a single person other than Prince knows for sure what Prince is feeling and what he's got planned. Everytime he takes a noticeable break between projects these "boredom" threads pop up then as soon as something gets released the "he needs a break" threads start. Pop a vicodin and settle down.

AMEN!!!

I feel so sorry for some of these people on the Org. Many will die unsatisfied, bored and miserable fans. I'm sooooo glad I'm not in that group. I know its a matter of opinion, but I enjoy many of his recent songs and look forward to new music because each album always has a few gems. I also enjoy his live concerts. The 80"s are gone and I'm just a realist. I don't expect anybody to be the same. I know I'm not the same person as I was in my 20's so why the heck would I demand that of another person. YOu look at any artist that was big in the 70's and 80's and how they are now, its just the norm. I also don't see Prince as lazy. I don't think that he would have lasted 30 years in the business if he was lazy. I've never heard anyone who actually worked with him call him lazy. (except for maybe Wendy and Lisa chuckling about his 20Ten release on the red carpet haha). And like someone said, Prince is damned if he does and damned if he don't. Many of you have not liked anything he has done in 20 years, yet you complain that he's not doing the new songs that you hate in his concerts???

This is not to say that some should not give their honest opinion or express their continued dissappointment, its just my observation over the past years that many will be dissappointed forever and Prince will never please some people.

[Edited 7/24/12 9:44am]

Great words and thoughts!! As for the "lazy" comments... it irks me every time I see it. Some anonymous person sitting at home typing on a computer calling one of the most hardest working entertainers of all time lazy...just because they want new music or whatever and it's not coming quick enough for them. It's pretty insulting. You guys must have NO idea the amount of work it takes to put on a live show, or full tour even--singing, dancing, playing for up to 2 and a half hours and keeping himself physically fit enough to pull all this off consistently... The rehearsals alone are about as tough and grueling as it gets.

People are free to label Prince however they want, and I know what they are trying to say... but, "lazy"??? That's not it.

jayARDAHB said:

wonder505 said:

You make a lot of assumptions about a man you personally don't know. You talk about how he is now which leads me to believe that you assume that he was Mr. Nice guy back in the 80's too which I find ironic. You also assume that he was never about the business at the bank until recently, how do you know for sure first hand that he was not like that either back in the 80's as well? why because he was doing music that you liked? Also I doubt Prince look at what he is doing as a "job". Its his life passion. All I can say, is that he is not best businessman, other than that, because I enjoy most of his recent work I still admire his "artistic integrity". People who don't like his recent work will feel that he is lazy because his output is not to their liking which is fine from an opinion standpointl

The message from his music has changed quite a bit from before - if that isn't obvious there isn't much left to discuss. He asked Wendy and Lisa to denounce their homosexuality - Wendy and Lisa have both confirmed this. If that isn't a change, a poor one in my books, I'm not sure what is. For a long time he was an equal opportunist and while he still has fantastic female musicians/collaborators in his bands, he has gone on record to say that the order of things is God, Man, than women and children. Yikes!

People change. That's life. He chose a spiritual path that you dont agree with, but he's not your friend, you're a stranger to him and its not your choice to make for him. Wendy and Lisa has performed with him since that incident, and they have mentioned that they are still open to working with him. So in my opinion if they have reconciled over this, there is no reason for me to be hung up over something that has nothing to do with me, and the parties involved apparently have forgiven each aother over that matter.

udo said:

irinact said:

Exactly. That's why Prince should do something that would be interesting to the majority of people.

Say what!?!

Please the majority instead of performing his art?

I am not saying that both can be the same but I must stress that both can also be wildly different.

The problem is, that he is not performing his art as often as he should do, and doesn't have good new material. He is too lazy, sleeps all day then up all night, snorting coke.

jayARDAHB said:

catpark said:

I thought the lotus site was bad, but thats how he wanted it. Thats my point Prince knows how to make a good site, the npgmc was excellent for stuff, thats the bit I don’t understand why would he put out a site like that? I think there was more to it than meets the eye imo.

Egomaniac? hmmm, well hes the boss of a lot of people, always having to make sure everything is right and precise for others, if he doesn’t do as expected from others he gets called names like an arsehole. You stand in his shoes bet you wouldn't last day, majority of artist in his position have not made it and have either ended up dead, crazy, junkies or just plain washed up.

To say he hasn’t made any cutting edge music in 20 years is ridiculous and just your opinion. There is plenty of people who think hes made some great music. The albums like Come, TRC, NEWS, The Slaughterhouse and Lotusflower, are some of his finest works and there are plenty of other songs here, and there that are brilliant pieces. I listen and see plenty of other artists all the time, more than Prince these days to be honest, and as an aspiring musician myself I know that Prince has it in him to make plenty of cutting edge music. Trust, Prince knows his shit!

Granted Prince has struck a chord with all of us here at the org and continues to with some of you, to even begin to think that Prince is going to release music that is cutting edge/hip/leading the direction for other artists again is without a doubt that one thing that indicates just how far out some of the orgers are today.

I'm a musician myself and I recognize just how awesome the guy is at playing - I also see just how bored the guy is of playing and composing. Like anyone at their job, after doing it for 35 years, not only do you develop habits but you also more times than not, get bored. Some time away from the studio just might be what the doctor called for.

Lawd.....what a bigoted post!

How can you possibly talk about Prince not being "cutting edge" when all you are making is very tired clones of Prince songs! Seriously - how far out must you be not to see the irony? You also said earlier that he's out of touch with the common person - well, he's not been a "common person" for over 4 decades, what do you expect? And, frankly, musicians are far more entertaining when they blaze their own trail, are unique and do things that others don't. All the best musicians have been like this. We need artists that are existential and out of the ordinary. If they were like your next-door neighbour, how excruciatingly boring would that be?

You being a musician has nothing to do with your perception of him being bored. However, you being a musician ought to command a little more respect - especially when you are trying to copy him to the nth degree. And if you're going to continue to tell everyone that he's lost it, you better try and write some original music

Mindflux said:

jayARDAHB said:

Granted Prince has struck a chord with all of us here at the org and continues to with some of you, to even begin to think that Prince is going to release music that is cutting edge/hip/leading the direction for other artists again is without a doubt that one thing that indicates just how far out some of the orgers are today.

I'm a musician myself and I recognize just how awesome the guy is at playing - I also see just how bored the guy is of playing and composing. Like anyone at their job, after doing it for 35 years, not only do you develop habits but you also more times than not, get bored. Some time away from the studio just might be what the doctor called for.

Lawd.....what a bigoted post!

How can you possibly talk about Prince not being "cutting edge" when all you are making is very tired clones of Prince songs! Seriously - how far out must you be not to see the irony? You also said earlier that he's out of touch with the common person - well, he's not been a "common person" for over 4 decades, what do you expect? And, frankly, musicians are far more entertaining when they blaze their own trail, are unique and do things that others don't. All the best musicians have been like this. We need artists that are existential and out of the ordinary. If they were like your next-door neighbour, how excruciatingly boring would that be?

You being a musician has nothing to do with your perception of him being bored. However, you being a musician ought to command a little more respect - especially when you are trying to copy him to the nth degree. And if you're going to continue to tell everyone that he's lost it, you better try and write some original music

to every single word of your post.

Retired? No.

But he's completely out of touch with the world, cares far too much about his own excessive wealth, puts WAY too much focus on backup singers, and has nothing left to say.

No doubt he can tour the greatest hits (well some of them) till the cows come home and he can do it well. As far as making culturally significant and innovative albums, those days are over.

All together now "I am the cybersingle, that is me, come and get my downl..."

[Edited 7/25/12 13:22pm]

Noodled24 said:

Retired? No.

But he's completely out of touch with the world, cares far too much about his own excessive wealth, puts WAY too much focus on backup singers, and has nothing left to say.

No doubt he can tour the greatest hits (well some of them) till the cows come home and he can do it well. As far as making culturally significant and innovative albums, those days are over.

All together now "I am the cybersingle, that is me, come and get my downl..."

[Edited 7/25/12 13:22pm]

YUP!!!!

Pentacle said:

catpark said:

Mindflux said:

catpark said:

to every single word of your post.

Thanks - but it had to be said. Interestingly, no comeback from him, in spite of leaping to agreement with the one other person who thinks as he does (so closely in fact, it might be worth checking the IP addresses!) within minutes of the post! I'll take that as him conceding the point

If you're talking about me then no. I was an active poster on Housequake for years. Also for the record what I said was a fact, thats probably why he agreed with me.

If you disagree thats fine, but theres no need to be nasty about it. In fact rather than bullying someone why not use your words and describe why you feel Prince's latest output (the music not the delivery method) was actually highly culturally significant. Point out the innovations in music on those albums. Talk about how the songs on there have clearly influenced other artists because... Oh I know why. I refer you back to my previous post.

You don't have to be delusional to post here "but it helps"

[Edited 7/26/12 12:04pm]

Prince has not quit. Some won't like the music he does eventually release, but he has not quit. I doubt he will ever quit.

Dogsinthetrees said:

Prince has not quit. Some won't like the music he does eventually release, but he has not quit. I doubt he will ever quit.

It is not about what he releases.

It is about what he plays in concert.

gemari77 said:

Noodled24 said:

Mindflux said:

catpark said: Thanks - but it had to be said. Interestingly, no comeback from him, in spite of leaping to agreement with the one other person who thinks as he does (so closely in fact, it might be worth checking the IP addresses!) within minutes of the post! I'll take that as him conceding the point

If you're talking about me then no. I was an active poster on Housequake for years. Also for the record what I said was a fact, thats probably why he agreed with me.

If you disagree thats fine, but theres no need to be nasty about it. In fact rather than bullying someone why not use your words and describe why you feel Prince's latest output (the music not the delivery method) was actually highly culturally significant. Point out the innovations in music on those albums. Talk about how the songs on there have clearly influenced other artists because... Oh I know why. I refer you back to my previous post.

You don't have to be delusional to post here "but it helps"

[Edited 7/26/12 12:04pm]

Have you heard the music on the radio lately? I don't think the things you demand of Prince is his burden anymore. He's done his time. Innovative, not sure whaty you mean exactly but I don't feel he is lazy. Like I said, have you heard the music on the radio lately haha. I like the lyrical approach with Colonized Mind and much of the arrangements and solos on LotusFlowr. I like the funk and the ballads on 3121 and 20Ten. and the extreme funk on the title track. Not a fan of Planet Earth but I like the melodies on the song Planet Earth, Future Baby Mama and Lions of Judah, and ofcourse there is the Masterpiece of the Rainbow Children and I like what he did with CNote.

I don't think any of us would like exactly how many and who Prince influences. I do know that despite his lack of web presence, he continues to gain young fans which is pretty impressive.

I thought someone here posted a quote a while back or some article where Prince said he wasn't going to put out any more music until something was improved - either the piracy thing or something involving record companies?

If that's so, then he's probably still recording and just refusing to put out any product. Problem is, if that's what he's doing then he'll probably never put out another album again because I think things are never going to go back to how they were in the past where people paid for the majority of the music they listen to.

And even if it's not that and there's some other reason...even if we never hear it, honestly I doubt Prince has quit and isn't even making music anymore. He's been doing it too long for that. In the years since 20Ten he's probably done a shitload of songs.

Noodled24 said:

Mindflux said:

catpark said: Thanks - but it had to be said. Interestingly, no comeback from him, in spite of leaping to agreement with the one other person who thinks as he does (so closely in fact, it might be worth checking the IP addresses!) within minutes of the post! I'll take that as him conceding the point

If you're talking about me then no. I was an active poster on Housequake for years. Also for the record what I said was a fact, thats probably why he agreed with me.

If you disagree thats fine, but theres no need to be nasty about it. In fact rather than bullying someone why not use your words and describe why you feel Prince's latest output (the music not the delivery method) was actually highly culturally significant. Point out the innovations in music on those albums. Talk about how the songs on there have clearly influenced other artists because... Oh I know why. I refer you back to my previous post.

You don't have to be delusional to post here "but it helps"

[Edited 7/26/12 12:04pm]

No - I was talking about the person I quoted. Please try and follow the thread.

Furthermore, if you so easily mistake your opinion for fact, then you're so right about being delusional.

Mindflux said:

Noodled24 said:

If you're talking about me then no. I was an active poster on Housequake for years. Also for the record what I said was a fact, thats probably why he agreed with me.

If you disagree thats fine, but theres no need to be nasty about it. In fact rather than bullying someone why not use your words and describe why you feel Prince's latest output (the music not the delivery method) was actually highly culturally significant. Point out the innovations in music on those albums. Talk about how the songs on there have clearly influenced other artists because... Oh I know why. I refer you back to my previous post.

You don't have to be delusional to post here "but it helps"

[Edited 7/26/12 12:04pm]

No - I was talking about the person I quoted. Please try and follow the thread.

Furthermore, if you so easily mistake your opinion for fact, then you're so right about being delusional.

You agreed with the person you quoted? so why would you agree with them then say it could be worth checking the IP?

No, it was indeed a fact. Nothing he's done lately has been culturally significant.

Noodled24 said:

Mindflux said:

No - I was talking about the person I quoted. Please try and follow the thread.

Furthermore, if you so easily mistake your opinion for fact, then you're so right about being delusional.

You agreed with the person you quoted? so why would you agree with them then say it could be worth checking the IP?

No, it was indeed a fact. Nothing he's done lately has been culturally significant.

IMO a song does not have to be "culturally significant" to be good.

[Edited 7/28/12 14:27pm]