Which is why, I download the material AS SOON as it's UP!

Don't wait, just download it. LOL

I noticed a couple of shows from Australia were taken down, but some are still there. YouTube is not the only way to find his material, their are simply multiple ways to get his LIVE footage/material from concerts or otherwise...OTHER than Youtube. I stop depending on YouTube being my source a longgggg time ago. Haha

It's still unfortunate that he manages to be such a 'Control' freak about it. I was watching Larry Graham yesterday on YouTube and his bass is OUT OF THE WATER! Haha..Anyways, I was just thinking, since Prince is so close to LG, maybe LG could convince him to keep some of his material still online. Haha..Wishful thinking, but still..I grown on a new level of respect for LG through Youtube, sure it could have happen in any other way...BUT this way was very pin point. Youtube could be used for his advantage, but he rathers it his way...so I guess that's the way it will be?

What more can we seriously do about it? 2007, is over..and I don't see him releasing another song like P.F.U.N.K. for those those who complain and acknowledge it. It's just Prince and his mindset surrounding his material on Youtube..

BUT...

Check other places! THEY DO EXIST..IN GREAT DETAIL. Haha

Bohemian67 said:

lezama said:

Will you asses stop repeating the internet is dead shit if you're taking out of context? He was talking about it as a means for him making a fair share of money. It's annoying. Thanks.

"I don't see why I should give my new music to iTunes or anyone else. They won't pay me an advance for it and then they get angry when they can't get it."

I know that and there's no need to call me an ass.

I'm just making sure that Prince doesn't forget that while he might be mad at Itunes, he shouldn't let the making $ negativity seep through to his fans who just want to share and listen to his music.

They're not selling it on youtube and lets face it 1. He doesn't have a website 2. He hasn't brought out a cd since 2010. People are hungry for new material. Give them a chance to listen.

The technological digital age is the future and it's only going to get stronger. He has to use it to his advantage somehow and it is free marketing. He says 'music brings people together' and it does, whether in person or online.

Of all social media I think youtube is the best for the new generation. FB, twitter and the tons of others provide too many stimuli to the youth and the older generation are medicating them for supposed ADHD.

Instead....Let ..MUSIC BE THE ANSWER.....

Oh.. I wasn't interested in your philosophy of music freedom, just telling you that repeating that same shit is annoying. Thanks.

And the fact that Prince has kept a shitload of his music on Youtube despite him having to know that its there should tell you something about what specifically is being taken down.

Besides, Prince gets new fans regaurdless.

hell, I'm glad I already downloaded all the video / audio clips that I wanted...

Prince: he never forgets, it took a couple of years, but has finally erased his youtube legacy again

this guy def is the anti-star

he LOVES to be hated / ignored

what?! PEOPLE!!

THERE ARE STILL A LOT OF PRINCE VIDEOS ON YOUTUBE!

HURRY UP!

DOWNLOAD 'EM ALL!!

langebleu said:

Examples of action taken in last week re Australian audience footage posted on Youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/wa...r_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/wa...agdwa9Id1g

I found and watched a few Australia vids before King et al got to them. Looked like everyone was having a whole lot of fun. His voice sounded great, btw.

This behavior from Prince has been going on forever and its real tired. Those aussie fans that took time to upload those vids really admire and adore him as an artist and if Prince can't appreciate that its his loss. Sometimes its not about money-the man has more money than he'll ever use in his lifetime and its sad for him to continue this mess. I mean the more I think about it-it is really telling his fans that he doesn't give a shit what they think. Those vids actually bring him more fans/more money. Times like this really make me miss Michael Jackson cuz even though the media gave Mike hell he never disrespected his fans. He was always appreciative that his fans made his career. As far as I know Mike never sued a fan and never did shit like this. As far as downloading all these vids I'll pass-if Prince wants to fade into obscurity then so be it.

nursev said:

This behavior from Prince has been going on forever and its real tired. Those aussie fans that took time to upload those vids really admire and adore him as an artist and if Prince can't appreciate that its his loss. Sometimes its not about money-the man has more money than he'll ever use in his lifetime and its sad for him to continue this mess. I mean the more I think about it-it is really telling his fans that he doesn't give a shit what they think. Those vids actually bring him more fans/more money. Times like this really make me miss Michael Jackson cuz even though the media gave Mike hell he never disrespected his fans. He was always appreciative that his fans made his career. As far as I know Mike never sued a fan and never did shit like this. As far as downloading all these vids I'll pass-if Prince wants to fade into obscurity then so be it.

You know I don't like comparisons often between MJ and Prince..But this is acceptable for so many reasons.

I mean, MJ never did this type of stuff, he never sued, or requested his material to be taken down. I am not saying Prince has to do everything MJ did, but he could learn that his material is supported by FANS. Not himself..He would be nothing without the consumers buying his product. NOTHING. I know he likes to give praise to God, and rightfully so. BUT 'God' gave you people that listens to you, and in that you should thank us. Haha...

Prince doesn't have to, but for some reason he spends money on lawyers taking down his material. I just don't understand it.??

I am with you with every point you made...

I think Prince does want to fade into obscurity, yet he wants the crowd to answer him when he says "What's MY NAME???"

"Yeah...it's a respect thing"

I don't what the heck you're all talking bout

there are STILL MANY songs and videos of Prince on youtube

or do I live in a different dimension or something?

lezama said:

Oh.. I wasn't interested in your philosophy of music freedom, just telling you that repeating that same shit is annoying. Thanks.

And the fact that Prince has kept a shitload of his music on Youtube despite him having to know that its there should tell you something about what specifically is being taken down.

Well then, I will have to call you out on your incorrect judgment. Can you show me where I have ever 'repeated' the words 'the internet is dead' on this subject? This is the first time I have ever mentioned it so it seems you colour everyone in the same brush without a moment's thought. But if you can find instances where I have repeated this, please.....I'm waiting.

Although the thread title wasn't specific, considering timing and the videos taken off, it was clearly inferred that it's the concert videos people are complaining about. I think the fans have a point about the decent ones being fished so soon. Prince doesn't release concert dvds so what are the fans to do? Would he prefer a total non-hype and silence, with conformist attitudes to 'I wonder if Prince will come to....? And/or through the non-hype that no-one even bothers to visit the org so don't even know about upcoming concerts and don't care?

There are points of view on both sides of the coin. I saw an old concert the other day where a Vietnamese commented that she was so grateful coz she loved Prince but she would never be able to afford a ticket.

In Prince's current method, he is denying a lot of fans some joy. Plus inadvertently, he is putting himself in the worldwide niche market of an elite few, even when it comes to experience. I think it's time he re-thought the issue and came up with a more elegant solution than 'you can't see/listen, sorry about that, coz you weren't there'. Again I say, power to the people.

[Edited 5/16/12 4:40am]

Bohemian67 said:

lezama said:

Oh.. I wasn't interested in your philosophy of music freedom, just telling you that repeating that same shit is annoying. Thanks.

And the fact that Prince has kept a shitload of his music on Youtube despite him having to know that its there should tell you something about what specifically is being taken down.

Well then, I will have to call you out on your incorrect judgment. Can you show me where I have ever 'repeated' the words 'the internet is dead' on this subject? This is the first time I have ever mentioned it so it seems you colour everyone in the same brush without a moment's thought. But if you can find instances where I have repeated this, please.....I'm waiting.

Although the thread title wasn't specific, considering timing and the videos taken off, it was clearly inferred that it's the concert videos people are complaining about. I think the fans have a point about the decent ones being fished so soon. Prince doesn't release concert dvds so what are the fans to do? Would he prefer a total non-hype and silence, with conformist attitudes to 'I wonder if Prince will come to....? And/or through the non-hype that no-one even bothers to visit the org so don't even know about upcoming concerts and don't care?

There are points of view on both sides of the coin. I saw an old concert the other day where a Vietnamese commented that she was so grateful coz she loved Prince but she would never be able to afford a ticket.

In Prince's current method, he is denying a lot of fans some joy. Plus inadvertently, he is putting himself in the worldwide niche market of an elite few, even when it comes to experience. I think it's time he re-thought the issue and came up with a more elegant solution than 'you can't see/listen, sorry about that, coz you weren't there'. Again I say, power to the people.

[Edited 5/16/12 4:40am]

1) you're puppeting the same tired crap that everyone else says, so yes, that's repeating.

2) If he's taking down concert footage while he's on tour and he consistently did this in the previous Welcome 2 tours then its pretty obvious that he wants people to experience his shows IN PERSON, because he knows there'll always be those people who will say "oh, well I've already seen these songs performed on youtube, so I'll spare myself a $100 bucks and stay home" when he tours in their area. Besides, if you really want to see that stuff you can get the footage bootleg like everyone else, you dont need Youtube for that.

I don't blame Prince for wanting his videos to be taken down.

The best concert experience is one that is enjoyed in person. I'd rather be in my seats than watching from home.

This is HIS music and hard work, we as fans have been treated to enough. We can't always ask and beg for more when someone has given so much over such a long period of time.

^

imo, Prince is greedy.

It's all about money, this is the reasons why he is "fighting" the internet.

Prince does not care about his fan community, not the slightest.

Sad, really.

thedance said:

^

imo, Prince is greedy.

It's all about money, this is the reasons why he is "fighting" the internet.

Prince does not care about his fan community, not the slightest.

Sad, really.

You know this for a fact? Because of the lack of Prince vids on YT? I hate when people say this shit with no backup. The goal to make money on YouTube is to work with YouTube and get a partnership. Fighting YouTube won't make Prince shit. So don't spew bullshit about greed. Sure, Prince is making money and he loves money. I APPLAUD him for that. I agree with lezama, some of you are acting like straight up asses. Big Sean made that song about ALL of you. I know a lot of you are stuck in the 80's and you have our recent years mixed up but 2007 is OVER! It's 2012, get with it.

[Edited 5/16/12 11:05am]

this thread has been reported

there are still MANY youtube videos of Prince

stop insulting the man

[Edited 5/16/12 9:23am]

thedance said:

^

imo, Prince is greedy.

It's all about money, this is the reasons why he is "fighting" the internet.

Prince does not care about his fan community, not the slightest.

Sad, really.

But it is ok for the internet to make money off of his work, i.e. youtube, itunes (they don't pay enough to the artist), downloading/bootlegging sites, but he as the creator/artist of said music/videos is greedy because he doesn't want to work for free. Hmmm, the nerve of him, shame on you Prince

As much as I do enjoy watching the free snippets from his concert, I have never gotten pissed off or changed my views on him because he decided to have his work deleted from the internet. I don't think I am entitled to have access to his work just because I am a fan.

JoeTyler said:

this thread has been reported

there are still MANY youtube videos of Prince

stop insulting the man

[Edited 5/16/12 9:23am]

reported for what? for stating that prince is once again going after youtube videos when he had eased off for a few years? and you know a mod posted in this topic?

it serves as a warning to some of us that might want post a video.

lezama said:

1) you're puppeting the same tired crap that everyone else says, so yes, that's repeating.

2) If he's taking down concert footage while he's on tour and he consistently did this in the previous Welcome 2 tours then its pretty obvious that he wants people to experience his shows IN PERSON, because he knows there'll always be those people who will say "oh, well I've already seen these songs performed on youtube, so I'll spare myself a $100 bucks and stay home" when he tours in their area. Besides, if you really want to see that stuff you can get the footage bootleg like everyone else, you dont need Youtube for that.

Excuse me Lezama, but your first post said quote 'Will you asses stop repeating the internet is dead shit if you're taking out of context?'

Now you're saying, quote 'the same tired crap.' Please define the latter coz that's again a very broad term when it comes to prince.org. However, don't bother as because none of your posts are without name calling or swearing I will not take any them seriously anyway.

Regarding the underlined point in this post. Exactly! So what's the point? The 'fight' is only feeding the battle. The thing he supposedly hates/fears the most, 'people making money off his productions for free.'

I get P's reasoning but what you and perhaps Prince fails to see is that there are fans out there who legitimately cannot afford to see Prince. Tell me, does he tour Africa, South Amercia, Asia, the Arabian blanket? If he doesn't, does it mean that fans there do not exist?

OnlyNDaUsa said:

JoeTyler said:

this thread has been reported

there are still MANY youtube videos of Prince

stop insulting the man

[Edited 5/16/12 9:23am]

reported for what? for stating that prince is once again going after youtube videos when he had eased off for a few years? and you know a mod posted in this topic?

it serves as a warning to some of us that might want post a video.

this thread is full of insults against Prince, like greedy, ungrateful, etc

which is puzzling because there's still the WHOLE 1999 New Year's eve concert for example, among many other P videos/songs

thedance said:

^

imo, Prince is greedy.

It's all about money, this is the reasons why he is "fighting" the internet.

Prince does not care about his fan community, not the slightest.

Sad, really.

I think Prince does care for his fan community only he's not very good at showing it.

Bohemian67 said:

lezama said:

1) you're puppeting the same tired crap that everyone else says, so yes, that's repeating.

2) If he's taking down concert footage while he's on tour and he consistently did this in the previous Welcome 2 tours then its pretty obvious that he wants people to experience his shows IN PERSON, because he knows there'll always be those people who will say "oh, well I've already seen these songs performed on youtube, so I'll spare myself a $100 bucks and stay home" when he tours in their area. Besides, if you really want to see that stuff you can get the footage bootleg like everyone else, you dont need Youtube for that.

Excuse me Lezama, but your first post said quote 'Will you asses stop repeating the internet is dead shit if you're taking out of context?'

Now you're saying, quote 'the same tired crap.' Please define the latter coz that's again a very broad term when it comes to prince.org. However, don't bother as because none of your posts are without name calling or swearing I will not take any them seriously anyway.

Regarding the underlined point in this post. Exactly! So what's the point? The 'fight' is only feeding the battle. The thing he supposedly hates/fears the most, 'people making money off his productions for free.'

I get P's reasoning but what you and perhaps Prince fails to see is that there are fans out there who legitimately cannot afford to see Prince. Tell me, does he tour Africa, South Amercia, Asia, the Arabian blanket? If he doesn't, does it mean that fans there do not exist?

what did fans do before the internet?

because someone can't afford to buy their favorite artist's music or go to concerts then they should be able to view/download their material for free. that doesn't seem fair, no one wants to work for free. i say enjoy it while it's there and don't bash the man once he gets around to having his work removed from these sites (sites that i also visit as well). we are not entitled

JoeTyler said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

reported for what? for stating that prince is once again going after youtube videos when he had eased off for a few years? and you know a mod posted in this topic?

it serves as a warning to some of us that might want post a video.

this thread is full of insults against Prince, like greedy, ungrateful, etc

which is puzzling because there's still the WHOLE 1999 New Year's eve concert for example, among many other P videos/songs

there is no rule--that I know of-- that protects prince or any public person from being insulted and called names.

OnlyNDaUsa said:

JoeTyler said:

this thread is full of insults against Prince, like greedy, ungrateful, etc

which is puzzling because there's still the WHOLE 1999 New Year's eve concert for example, among many other P videos/songs

there is no rule--that I know of-- that protects prince or any public person from being insulted and called names.

what about morals? ethics?

or what about criticising someone for a thing HE has actually done?

I'LL SAY IT, ONCE AGAIN: THERE ARE STILL LIVE VIDEOS, RARE SONGS, AND OTHER SONGS IN YOUTUBE...

PurpleRayven said:

Bohemian67 said:

I get P's reasoning but what you and perhaps Prince fails to see is that there are fans out there who legitimately cannot afford to see Prince. Tell me, does he tour Africa, South Amercia, Asia, the Arabian blanket? If he doesn't, does it mean that fans there do not exist?

what did fans do before the internet?

because someone can't afford to buy their favorite artist's music or go to concerts then they should be able to view/download their material for free. that doesn't seem fair, no one wants to work for free. i say enjoy it while it's there and don't bash the man once he gets around to having his work removed from these sites (sites that i also visit as well). we are not entitled

I believe they bootlegged the audio onto tapes. I don't think the unknown fans are going to be the ones who download all material. It will be the hardcore excess fan who needs a copy of everything ever made. As far as I can see, Prince is not working for free in fact I think his stack is growing. I agree, don't bash the man but reasoning and amicable negotiation is surely allowed? So stop 'screaming' fans...'talk.'

The situation is not black/white. I don't think fans should be making money off his work. That some do is a shame, but if they need to do that, they're still not wealthy from it. U-tube/google might make a bit but don't tell me they haven't serviced the world to free information,(educational included), helped unknown artists, kept the legacy alive of those passed on, I mean it's not all bad. It's a pity yes that some videos are bad quality but who is going to listen to those anyway?

Prince's experience has done a lot for music industry participants in knowing their rights. He has had his fingers burnt from Corporates and I believe this previous conditioning helps form his stance. He needs control and I see where that stems from. But he should never forget where he came from. Life in the ivory tower is a far cry from that on the street but it doesn't make all the people on the street 'bad.'

That being said, there is still material to be enjoyed & he is not the one who hooks the fish (video pull), it's the company. Maybe they just make really bad choices of what to confiscate!

JoeTyler said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

there is no rule--that I know of-- that protects prince or any public person from being insulted and called names.

what about morals? ethics?

this is Prince we are talking about

or what about criticising someone for a thing HE has actually done?

the evidence is that he or someone he hired is taking some videos off youtube. that is his right...but not necessarily the best move

I'LL SAY IT, ONCE AGAIN: THERE ARE STILL LIVE VIDEOS, RARE SONGS, AND OTHER SONGS IN YOUTUBE...

and? wait!? how do you know? unless you are watching them ILLEGALLY!! Since you brought up morals and ethics... i have to ask... how is it moral or in keeping with an ethic to watch illegally uploaded copyright protected videos on the internet?

OnlyNDaUsa said:

JoeTyler said:

what about morals? ethics?

this is Prince we are talking about

or what about criticising someone for a thing HE has actually done?

the evidence is that he or someone he hired is taking some videos off youtube. that is his right...but not necessarily the best move

I'LL SAY IT, ONCE AGAIN: THERE ARE STILL LIVE VIDEOS, RARE SONGS, AND OTHER SONGS IN YOUTUBE...

and? wait!? how do you know? unless you are watching them ILLEGALLY!! Since you brought up morals and ethics... i have to ask... how is it moral or in keeping with an ethic to watch illegally uploaded copyright protected videos on the internet?

that last statement only means 3 things:

a) Prince is PARTIALLY doing something he has the right (morally and legally) to do

b) You guys are criticising him for something he has the right to do: morally and legally, and you're also offering misleading info, since Prince (or his puppet, whoever he/she is) is only removing SOME videos, so far

c) Yes, I'm doing something illegal when I watch the official 1999 New Year's eve concert, for example, but for the most part I'm download / watch / listen to MANY stuff that is NOT copyrighted, more like personal rare/unreleased songs which leaked, or bootleg-videocamera performances

[Edited 5/16/12 11:40am]

OnlyNDaUsa said:

JoeTyler said:

this thread is full of insults against Prince, like greedy, ungrateful, etc

which is puzzling because there's still the WHOLE 1999 New Year's eve concert for example, among many other P videos/songs

there is no rule--that I know of-- that protects prince or any public person from being insulted and called names.

Well there should be. So called freedom of speech on the internet is leading to a downgrading of society and fewer morals and values. Great gift for the new generation. Just as feminism led to a downgrade in motherhood.

There are limitations/restrictions in the Universal Declaration of Human rights freedom of speech article:

Article 19 goes on to say that the exercise of these rights carries "special duties and responsibilities" and may "therefore be subject to certain restrictions" when necessary for respect of the rights or reputation of others" or for the protection of national security or of public order (order public), or of public health or morals".^[1][2]

Limitations to freedom of speech may follow the "harm principle" or the "offense principle", for example in the case of pornography, religious belief or hate speech. Limitations to freedom of speech may occur through legal sanction or social disapprobation, or both.^[41]

Unfortunately, the Americans I've spoken to about this believe the Universal declaration doesn't apply to them as Americans have their own.

Cyberbullying is a fact and is lnked to suicide. Please don't tell me doesn't matter.

http://www.cyberbullying.us/cyberbullying_and_suicide_research_fact_sheet.pdf

JoeTyler said:

a) Prince is PARTIALLY doing something he has the right (morally and legally) to do

yup! and belly aching about it is also something that we have the right to do!

b) You guys are criticising him for something he has the right to do: morally and legally, and you're also offering misleading info, since Prince (or his puppet, whoever he/she is) is only removing SOME videos, so far

and you are criticising us for something we have the legal right to do...

c) Yes, I'm doing something illegal when I watch the official 1999 New Year's eve concert, for example, but for the most part I'm download / watch / listen to MANY stuff that is NOT copyrighted, more like personal rare/unreleased songs which leaked, or bootleg-videocamera performances

look for it on DVD i have seen it several times for super cheap! like less than a dollar!

Bohemian67 said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

there is no rule--that I know of-- that protects prince or any public person from being insulted and called names.

Well there should be. So called freedom of speech on the internet is leading to a downgrading of society and fewer morals and values. Great gift for the new generation. Just as feminism led to a downgrade in motherhood.

There are limitations/restrictions in the Universal Declaration of Human rights freedom of speech article:

Article 19 goes on to say that the exercise of these rights carries "special duties and responsibilities" and may "therefore be subject to certain restrictions" when necessary for respect of the rights or reputation of others" or for the protection of national security or of public order (order public), or of public health or morals".^[1][2]

Limitations to freedom o...llow the "harm principle" or the "offense principle", for example in the case of pornography, religious belief or hate speech. Limitations to freedom of speech may occur through legal sanction or social disapprobation, or both.^[41]

Unfortunately, the Americans I've spoken to about this believe the Universal declaration doesn't apply to them as Americans have their own.

Cyberbullying is a fact and is lnked to suicide. Please don't tell me doesn't matter.

http://www.cyberbullying.us/cyberbullying_and_suicide_research_fact_sheet.pdf

I disagree and your argument is silly. and NOTHING posted here crosses the line by any means...

OnlyNDaUsa said:

JoeTyler said:

a) Prince is PARTIALLY doing something he has the right (morally and legally) to do

yup! and belly aching about it is also something that we have the right to do!

b) You guys are criticising him for something he has the right to do: morally and legally, and you're also offering misleading info, since Prince (or his puppet, whoever he/she is) is only removing SOME videos, so far

and you are criticising us for something we have the legal right to do...

c) Yes, I'm doing something illegal when I watch the official 1999 New Year's eve concert, for example, but for the most part I'm download / watch / listen to MANY stuff that is NOT copyrighted, more like personal rare/unreleased songs which leaked, or bootleg-videocamera performances

look for it on DVD i have seen it several times for super cheap! like less than a dollar!

No I wnon't lol, the show was dreadful the bass sounds like a bunch of trucks on the highway