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Reply #30 posted 02/27/03 10:23am

rdhull

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R (arrah) Kelly is the king of r&b.
"Climb in my fur."
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Reply #31 posted 02/27/03 10:24am

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rdhull said:

R (arrah) Kelly is the king of r&b.


Oh Good Lord, do NOT conjure up Maxxx in heeea!! evillol
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Reply #32 posted 02/27/03 10:27am

Harlepolis

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Harlepolis said:

Like I said, I ain't got problem with them folks. I have a problem with the TERM itself. Altho I'm getting sick of everybody are starting to sound like each other.

It's just a marketing term. Whether the genre is new or not, the industry will slap a new marketing term on a movement to get your attention. I'm not offended by it like I am when people claim Kenny G. plays jazz. But I have noticed that most folks within the so-called "neo soul" movement don't stand out by seperating themselves from the rest artistically.


Hell, its like an air trapped in a box. It ain't different than the air oustide the box.
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Reply #33 posted 02/27/03 10:27am

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CalhounSq said:

rdhull said:

R (arrah) Kelly is the king of r&b.


Oh Good Lord, do NOT conjure up Maxxx in heeea!! evillol

evillol
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Reply #34 posted 02/27/03 10:32am

wellbeyond

rdhull said:

R (arrah) Kelly is the king of r&b.

And here I thought Bobby Brown was the king of r&b...damn that Whitney Houston for lyin' to us...
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Reply #35 posted 02/27/03 10:33am

wellbeyond

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Handclapsfingasnapz said:

CalhounSq said:

NuPwrSoul said:

I don't get it.

Much of the "neo soul" is homage to Prince's unique style. Before Dangelo sat down at a Rhodes, we had the Ballad of Dorothy Parker. So if P goes back to the Rhodes to do HIMSELF, he's now mimicking neosoulers? WTF. I mean WTF! I mean WHATDAFUCK???

If there ever was a "trend" for P to participate in seamlessly, it would be neosoul, since he helped to create it gottdamnit.

This just pisses me off to no end.


ROFL, y'all done pissed off NPS!! Watch yo asses, now lol biggrin

seein spooky poppin his head up... eek


lol

I'm sayin tho. Apologies to anyone that I may have offended. But I mean really. What do people want when they call for "Prince's unique sound"? That 1982-1984 linn drum handclap, layerd synth horns business? You want him to make a Ready for the World Album greatest hits album?

"The Rainbow Children" was his best attempt to present his signature sound and artistic impulses for today's listening audience in YEARS.

worship worship

Co-sign all that shit up there... lol
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Reply #36 posted 02/27/03 10:35am

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Harlepolis said:

As much as I'm madly in love with "Muse 2 The Pharaoh" I'm wondering why didn't he recorded something different than whats out there like he used to?? I like the song even tho I feel bad about it becoz I feel like I'm hearing Jill Scott/Musiq instead of the "Prince" who influenced their music and who always come up with something raw and twisted. I'm thankful that the liner notes from the Vodoo's LP woke him up and let him get back at using the fender rhodes BUT not 2 the point where he's walking their route.

"Once again I don't follow trends,,they just follow me"-somehow I doubt that my brutha.



Get back in the archives. Jill Scott and Musiq are doing Prince - not the other way around
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Reply #37 posted 02/27/03 10:36am

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FACEJUSTCANTBESTOPPED said:

Harlepolis said:

As much as I'm madly in love with "Muse 2 The Pharaoh" I'm wondering why didn't he recorded something different than whats out there like he used to?? I like the song even tho I feel bad about it becoz I feel like I'm hearing Jill Scott/Musiq instead of the "Prince" who influenced their music and who always come up with something raw and twisted. I'm thankful that the liner notes from the Vodoo's LP woke him up and let him get back at using the fender rhodes BUT not 2 the point where he's walking their route.

"Once again I don't follow trends,,they just follow me"-somehow I doubt that my brutha.



Get back in the archives. Jill Scott and Musiq are doing Prince - not the other way around

Amen!
Successful people do what Un-Successful people won't do!
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Reply #38 posted 02/27/03 10:42am

Harlepolis

FACEJUSTCANTBESTOPPED said:

Harlepolis said:

As much as I'm madly in love with "Muse 2 The Pharaoh" I'm wondering why didn't he recorded something different than whats out there like he used to?? I like the song even tho I feel bad about it becoz I feel like I'm hearing Jill Scott/Musiq instead of the "Prince" who influenced their music and who always come up with something raw and twisted. I'm thankful that the liner notes from the Vodoo's LP woke him up and let him get back at using the fender rhodes BUT not 2 the point where he's walking their route.

"Once again I don't follow trends,,they just follow me"-somehow I doubt that my brutha.



Get back in the archives. Jill Scott and Musiq are doing Prince - not the other way around


I don't need 2 go back 2 the archives cuz I already been there. And we ain't talking about the archives we're talking about 2day.
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Reply #39 posted 02/27/03 10:44am

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wellbeyond said:

rdhull said:

R (arrah) Kelly is the king of r&b.

And here I thought Bobby Brown was the king of r&b...damn that Whitney Houston for lyin' to us...

We we also have a new Whitty Hutton too (shhh). lol
"Climb in my fur."
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Reply #40 posted 02/27/03 2:32pm

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rdhull said:

stymie said:

Time to get shot again, but everytime IN MY OPINION Prince tries the latest fashion, he shoots himself in the foot(I rather stick needles in my eyes than to ever hear him rap again). The term Neo-Soul is complete bullshit. They really ought to change the term to recycled soul. New artists are trying their damndest to sound like old artists. It is all just soul music. Ain't shit new about it. I would hope P would leave that nonsense to his younger counterparts.

Then how you gonna even attempt to like Prince..he is the uiltimate neo soul artist then because his whole shit was a throwback to everyone before him..punk with DM, Kraftwerk with some 1999, Rockabilly with shit on Controversy and 1999, hendrix with Purple rain etc etc , Joni Mitchell, soul of Al Green in his slow songs, look of Little Richard and Hendrix etc etc, Bowie adrogyny. His whole movement may have not been Neo-"Soul" but "Neo-Everything but the Kitchen sink".

Well...can I get a witness(not JW)?


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Reply #41 posted 02/27/03 2:43pm

chickengrease

rdhull said



He simply got shook and had to show how its done. He did. Now he will probably do it his own way again without revisiting his own sound purposely imo.


Then how you gonna even attempt to like Prince..he is the uiltimate neo soul artist then because his whole shit was a throwback to everyone before him..punk with DM, Kraftwerk with some 1999, Rockabilly with shit on Controversy and 1999, hendrix with Purple rain etc etc , Joni Mitchell, soul of Al Green in his slow songs, look of Little Richard and Hendrix etc etc, Bowie adrogyny. His whole movement may have not been Neo-"Soul" but "Neo-Everything but the Kitchen sink".


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Reply #42 posted 02/27/03 2:45pm

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Harlepolis said:

FACEJUSTCANTBESTOPPED said:

Harlepolis said:

As much as I'm madly in love with "Muse 2 The Pharaoh" I'm wondering why didn't he recorded something different than whats out there like he used to?? I like the song even tho I feel bad about it becoz I feel like I'm hearing Jill Scott/Musiq instead of the "Prince" who influenced their music and who always come up with something raw and twisted. I'm thankful that the liner notes from the Vodoo's LP woke him up and let him get back at using the fender rhodes BUT not 2 the point where he's walking their route.

"Once again I don't follow trends,,they just follow me"-somehow I doubt that my brutha.



Get back in the archives. Jill Scott and Musiq are doing Prince - not the other way around


I don't need 2 go back 2 the archives cuz I already been there. And we ain't talking about the archives we're talking about 2day.


Ignorance of the past ensures ingorance of the future. HOw can Prince be doing them while they are doing him from the late 70's and early 80s? You cant be intelligent and say "we're talking about 2day" as today is a product of yesterday. ALways has been.
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Reply #43 posted 02/27/03 2:48pm

Anji

I absolutely adore Muse 2 The Pharoah. mr.green
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Reply #44 posted 02/27/03 3:50pm

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I like me some Jill Scott and d'Angelo. Most of the rest I don't care much about, except maybe for the occasional gem in their repertoire.

And I don't think Prince is obsessed with Neo-Soul...
RIP Prince: thank U 4 a funky Time...
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Reply #45 posted 02/27/03 4:25pm

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Neo-Soul isn't just playing organic instruments without over-dependancy on programming. There is a definite mid-70s vibe within the production values and arrangements... That's not a bad thing of course.

Its like Nu-Punk - The Strokes, The Vines, The Hives etcetera... In many ways its very retro except the sound is very, very clean.

There is a definite scene around the likes of india.arie, Maxwell, Jill Scott, Erykah, D'Angelo and all - it isn't just the music. If it was just the music, you could call the last Craig David single Neo-Soul...
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Reply #46 posted 02/27/03 4:42pm

chickengrease

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If it was just the music, you could call the last Craig David single Neo-Soul...


Unfortunately, many folks do sad
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Reply #47 posted 02/27/03 6:42pm

lovebizzare

shrug beats me, it's prince, that's kinda like askin' why he left the bass out of "when doves cry"
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Reply #48 posted 02/27/03 6:48pm

TipN4U

I don't really know who NEO-SOUL is BUT I know NEO was in the matrix...

The point is ...

You know how when sometimes you go to the grocery store and U stare at the thousands of boxes of cereal to pick ONE OUT? or mayB two if on sale??? well...mayB prince is just a man with a spirit that has so many songs and things to share that he has to PICK ONE or mayB two out that truly he WISHES to share with everyone...IT DOESNT MEEN that he is gonna put the entire CEREAL ISLE OUT for us to be able to select ALL OF EM...he is just giving us a few BOXES of CEREAL at a time...THAT Way we will allways have MORE CEREAL to ENJOY.

thank u.

SingMia
rose
reading try putting all the kinds of captain crunch cereal in one bowl mix it up and then share it with some kids...IN THEIR own separate (hygienic) bowl...keep the table clean.
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Reply #49 posted 02/27/03 7:49pm

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The fact that Prince can’t repeat himself without being called a copier of others is the best proof there is of how influential he really has been and continues to be.

His last 3 records don't sound anything like neo-soul, and "Rainbow" only had one song in that vein. That's far from obsession.
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Reply #50 posted 02/27/03 8:03pm

mistermaxxx

CalhounSq said:

rdhull said:

R (arrah) Kelly is the king of r&b.


Oh Good Lord, do NOT conjure up Maxxx in heeea!! evillol
Tha King of Modern R&B doesn't do Neo-Soul he does Soul as does "The King Of Pop".Neither are part of Neo.but speaking of Michael Jackson "Off The Wall" Would Be the Standard Version for The New Rookie doing Neo-Soul&Stevie Wonder,Marvin Gaye,Donny Hathaway&Mid 70's Aretha Franklin&Minnie Riperton did this whole Bag back in the Mid-70's.
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Reply #51 posted 02/27/03 8:07pm

mistermaxxx

Prince is a Great Sponge of the Past but the same can be said of Any Artist that truly has left a Lasting Impression with there Work IMHO.Prince Dabbles with Things.alot of these Acts are Big Fans of "Ballad Of Dorothy Parker","If I Was Your Girlfriend"&"Adore" Which Might be Classified in the Neo-Soul Bag but it's cool.
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Reply #52 posted 02/27/03 11:36pm

tackam

I like neosoul, to the extent that I can figure out who fits in that group. Me'shell, Maxwell, India, Common. . .Kravitz, maybe. . .their music is very intimate. I dig it.

I think P is into it because it flatters him to think that he might have inspired musicians younger than him. I think he wants to be a musical legacy (wish granted, obviously). And I think he's maybe a little lost musically (not bad, just lacking direction), and he sees a place where he could fit in and feel at home. Just a theory.

Doves,
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Reply #53 posted 02/28/03 2:13am

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The ignorance people show in music never ceases to amaze me. You guys think people started playing soul again since records companies found a market and called it neo-soul? That only came about after they saw the success of "Brown Sugar" D'Angelo's debut. There were people recording the same music weeks, months, and years before D even did his. His album was a commercial breakthru, now everyone feels they want a piece of the pie. But don't throw the baby out with the bath water. The true artist will still record and be around long after the hype is dead.(I think it is almost dead) You can't sleep on real talent. D'Angelo, Bilal, Angie Stone have real staying power and awesome talent and they write damn near all of their stuff. And if these guys are not the foundation, who is Britney, Christina, or better yet Justin (M.J.) Timberlake?? Come on can you people tell real music or are you guys pop fans? If so stick to MTV and leave real music alone.
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Reply #54 posted 02/28/03 2:15am

Mr7

Prince IS soul.
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Reply #55 posted 02/28/03 4:42am

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Mr7 said:

Prince IS soul.

YES, DOUBLE YES and YES YES YES!
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Reply #56 posted 02/28/03 4:50am

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I'd much prefer to have seen him influenced by electroclash than neo-soul.

Nu-soul is so dull - Prince could do with an injection of excitement in his music.
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Reply #57 posted 02/28/03 6:58am

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isn't electro clash dead by now? People can only take so much of Peaches and Chicks on speed.
Anyway, come up with a pretentious, alternative way to spell 'music' and you're Neo-Soul nuts
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Reply #58 posted 03/28/03 8:11pm

Essence

I'd argue "Dark" had all the hallmarks associated with "neo soul" and that was a year before D'Angelo dropped "Brown Sugar" and kicked it all off...
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Reply #59 posted 03/29/03 12:04am

mistermaxxx

Essence said:

I'd argue "Dark" had all the hallmarks associated with "neo soul" and that was a year before D'Angelo dropped "Brown Sugar" and kicked it all off...
Minnie Riperton,Donny Hathaway,Aretha Franklin,Earth,Wind&Fire among others did the Whole Style back in the Mid 70's before it had a Name.Frankie Beverly&Maze as well did it without getting credit for it.
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