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Reply #60 posted 04/08/12 11:01pm

TRON

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MoonSongs said:

Please send one for me too (tranquilizer) ~ I will sleep with many of these gems dancing in my head tonight.

cake

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Reply #61 posted 04/09/12 1:56am

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chill pill

"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato

https://youtu.be/CVwv9LZMah0
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Reply #62 posted 04/09/12 2:39am

SpiritOtter

Isten,

Excellent. Tron, even better. However, I would raise you both to a 7CD Parade era disc set in terms of a complete retrospective for the serious collector. I would consider charging $140 for an estimated 100,000 sales for that specific project. In terms of gross profit, that would equal how much for Prince?

Tron, can you ask Moonbeam to complete a 7CD retrospective for the 1999 era, again for the serious collector. He may need my assistance, as well as others, abut request him to post his initial thoughts here. Again, I would consider charging $140 for a 7CD 1999 era set as a complete retrospective for the serious collector. I estimate approximately 200,000 sales of this set, which would equal how much for Prince in terms of gross profit?

love,
Spirit
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Reply #63 posted 04/09/12 3:06am

love2thenines2
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neutral

[Edited 4/9/12 3:10am]

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Reply #64 posted 04/09/12 3:10am

love2thenines2
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2 SpiritOtter!

I don't understand your Thread >is this a Joke or something serious??

What are the sources 4 this kind of (Bootleg?) Project...the sources already known by of all the Fans since long years (what is the interest??..another Box set re-made?)....or are u in connection with the Purple Master himself or is this just something driven by your imagination 4 your own masturbating Brain??

Sorry i need your CLEAR EXPLANATION !! thanx in advance

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Reply #65 posted 04/09/12 3:37am

Nasalhair

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Nasalhair, Interesting name. What could you comfortably afford? love, Spirit

SpiritOtter,

It isn't so much what I could afford, more what I would be willing to pay. Having being stung in the past by Prince I wouldn't pay a penny over £50, and even then I'd spend time thinking it over & would ideally want to see independent reviews and sample some of it myself. I'm still smarting over things like "Emancipation", "Crystal Ball", "Lotusflower", the "Rave" DVD...

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Reply #66 posted 04/09/12 3:52am

databank

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SpiritOtter, you are CLEARLY implying that:

EITHER

- You are involved in a negociation with Prince on a release project associated with a book you'd have written, something that you cannot expect anyone here to believe unless you become specific about it, explain the whole thing clearly and quit being cyptic.

OR

- You are planning to release and sell a collection of bootlegs alongside your book (which would, basically, lead you directly to jail - unless of course you live in India where the government has been quite clear about their unwillingness to respect international copyright issues - not to mention the fact that very few people are still willing to pay money for bootlegs, particularly if there's nothing new under the sun).

You are NOT implying that this is a "what if" thread.

Therefore, your behavior goes against forum rules that IIRC state that:

- one should not try to impersonate Prince or his representatives/associates

- one shouldn't post fake tracklists

- one shouldn't advertise bootlegs (admitting Option #2 is your scenario)

- one shouldn't be a troll (even though you are being polite with everyone, confusing people this way is a form of trolling since it makes them waste their time).

Therefore PLEASE state clearly what your purpose here is, or expect some people to ask the mods for this thread to be locked.

Peace.

A COMPREHENSIVE PRINCE DISCOGRAPHY (work in progress ^^): https://sites.google.com/...scography/
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Reply #67 posted 04/09/12 5:29am

leecaldon

This thread needs clarity.

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Reply #68 posted 04/09/12 1:40pm

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I think that our friend SpiritOtter is gone ....he has been afraid by his own Joke!!

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Reply #69 posted 04/09/12 5:41pm

SpiritOtter

databank,

Thank you for your feedback.

Have you ever heard of a work in progress?

I may be bootlegging the .Org, but laws are not being broken.

love,
Spirit
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Reply #70 posted 04/09/12 5:44pm

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databank said:

SpiritOtter, you are CLEARLY implying that:

EITHER

- You are involved in a negociation with Prince on a release project associated with a book you'd have written, something that you cannot expect anyone here to believe unless you become specific about it, explain the whole thing clearly and quit being cyptic.

OR

- You are planning to release and sell a collection of bootlegs alongside your book (which would, basically, lead you directly to jail - unless of course you live in India where the government has been quite clear about their unwillingness to respect international copyright issues - not to mention the fact that very few people are still willing to pay money for bootlegs, particularly if there's nothing new under the sun).

You are NOT implying that this is a "what if" thread.

Therefore, your behavior goes against forum rules that IIRC state that:

- one should not try to impersonate Prince or his representatives/associates

- one shouldn't post fake tracklists

- one shouldn't advertise bootlegs (admitting Option #2 is your scenario)

- one shouldn't be a troll (even though you are being polite with everyone, confusing people this way is a form of trolling since it makes them waste their time).

Therefore PLEASE state clearly what your purpose here is, or expect some people to ask the mods for this thread to be locked.

Peace.

yeahthat Exactly what I was thinking!

"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato

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Reply #71 posted 04/09/12 5:52pm

SpiritOtter

purple,

Perhaps, you may wish to take a chill pill, too?

love,
Spirit
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Reply #72 posted 04/09/12 5:57pm

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Naw, that's a tranquilizer for the org member requesting one. wink BTW perhaps this whole thread is some kind of psycho-social experiment... lol

"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato

https://youtu.be/CVwv9LZMah0
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Reply #73 posted 04/09/12 6:42pm

TrevorAyer

if this thread is still cooking i may have more time to run down the list in detail .. but for now prince would do very well to drop 10 outtakes/boots for 10 bucks on a single disk with decent period photos and some good liner notes .. this 21 nights book crap and other ventures in general retardation does him no favors .. it wouldnt hurt to put out a live series like pearl jam or phish .. he would make tons with very little work .. seems he would rather stare at his purple navel tho

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Reply #74 posted 04/09/12 7:40pm

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Just listened to The Dream Factory boot again; with boots like these who needs an officially sanctioned boot collection? biggrin love We Can Funk may just be my favorite Prince song of all time (for now anyway!) lol

[Edited 4/9/12 21:22pm]

"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato

https://youtu.be/CVwv9LZMah0
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Reply #75 posted 04/09/12 10:50pm

TRON

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SpiritOtter said:

Isten, Excellent. Tron, even better. However, I would raise you both to a 7CD Parade era disc set in terms of a complete retrospective for the serious collector. I would consider charging $140 for an estimated 100,000 sales for that specific project. In terms of gross profit, that would equal how much for Prince? Tron, can you ask Moonbeam to complete a 7CD retrospective for the 1999 era, again for the serious collector. He may need my assistance, as well as others, abut request him to post his initial thoughts here. Again, I would consider charging $140 for a 7CD 1999 era set as a complete retrospective for the serious collector. I estimate approximately 200,000 sales of this set, which would equal how much for Prince in terms of gross profit? love, Spirit

Well then surely a disc representing alternate versions of the album tracks such as Clare Fisher's fully orchestrated album and rough mixes like "Little Girl Wendy's Parade", etc. should be included.

The entire unedited Birthday Parade show and the Le New Morning aftershow would cover the live content beautifully.

Perhaps a release of The Flesh could be considered a companion piece to Parade like the first 3 Madhouse albums were to Sign, Black & Lovesexy. "Junk Music" was even included in the film.

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Reply #76 posted 04/10/12 12:24am

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SpiritOtter said:

databank, Thank you for your feedback. Have you ever heard of a work in progress? I may be bootlegging the .Org, but laws are not being broken. love, Spirit

i don't see the interest to carry on talking about this topic..it seems unofficial & bullshits from an ill brain!!

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Reply #77 posted 04/10/12 1:59am

KeithyT

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I like Anji, so I am going to play, straight answers no messin'...

SpiritOtter said:

1. Which is your favorite side. of music? Side 5. Would love CD quality full guitar version of Crucial and the "dope track" The Line.

2. Which tracks would you like to see included/rejected from the release? Rejected - None. Included - Honestly, I think everything listed would keep me happy

3. Would you be happy if the music was released offically by Prince on VINYL / CD / DVD? Yes

4. How would you feel about an independent, Prince-authorised, biography to accompany the release? I'd be more interested than usual to read it as it was Prince-authorised

5. Which, as yet unreleased, 7 live DVDs (Blu-ray) would you like to accompany the release? Unreleased on DVD/Blu-Ray - 1986 Detroit Birthday Show, 1985 Syracuse, 1988 Lovesexy Live, 1995 Wembley Arena Gold Tour, 1993 Act II NY Madison Square Gardens, 1984 First Avenue Birthday Show, 1988 Small Club.

6. How much would you pay Prince to have your own copy of GENIUS: A Gift of GOD? If it genuinely included the equivalent of all the above (CDs/DVDs/Book I'd be happy to pay somewhere between £100-£150 GBP

7. How many people in total do you think would purchase the set at that price? I'd think it would be low initially, thousands (hardcore Prince fans, some casual Prince fans, general music fans/collectors). But would accumulate over time. I think it could end up in the tens of thousands. I'd be shocked if 100,000 people bought a high priced Prince set but if they did at £150 each that would net Prince £15,000,000 (minus fees and production costs of course)

Have fun with this Anji. wink

Just somewhere in the middle,
Not too good and not too bad.
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Reply #78 posted 04/10/12 1:21pm

jonylawson

i got to say you have some big indian balls my friend

to actually try to sell a bootleg set we all have a thousand times for FREE.

and the thread still isnt blocked eek

still im sure your book would be worth a laugh

love

jony

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Reply #79 posted 04/10/12 2:07pm

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I was reading this entire thread last night...

I could feel a smile on my face each 5 secs...

I have a question: How long does April Fools' Day last in the .org?

Oh...

And as it seem it goes with this thread, I have to say P called me this morning and said the prices mentioned here are still TOO CHEAP.

He wants a better offer for his boots!!

Anyway,

If P were not in that religion I think about this and it doesn't sound so crazy.

He could be offering his old material remastered for good money and screw WB for sure at the same time. I'm talking about his official material.

Not to mention the vault stuff.

But well... He IS a JW now (what is a good reason for not wanting to remaster all those songs full of (explicit) sex(ual innuendos) and bad language) lol

Peace.

"America is a continent..."
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Reply #80 posted 04/10/12 2:16pm

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^that new extralovable was filled with inuendo, and i saw the motherfucker humpin the shit out of stage just last year in concert. he uses his JWness when its convenient

Bogey and Bacall, peanut butter and jelly, Wall being on fucking point, is "classic" dipshit. An iphone is top shelf technology. Get it straight. This thing is 4g. -Wall the great
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Reply #81 posted 04/10/12 3:26pm

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I don't know what to make of this thread. I'd pay $199 for the set but there's a fair bit on there I don't like. To really get me excited it'd need some unheard stuff on there rather than a load of tracks we already have in pretty good quality.

Of course, my willingness to pay is based on P getting paid. If it's a fans mastabatory bootleg release, I'll wait and dload for free.

Oh and whoever gets paid. Book shmook, not interested.

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RIP sad
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Reply #82 posted 04/10/12 3:34pm

SpiritOtter

nurse lawson,

Thank you for the compliment regarding my seriously big Indian balls.

love,
Dr Otter
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Reply #83 posted 04/10/12 4:01pm

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Next thing you know they B calling themselves "The Collective"

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Reply #84 posted 04/10/12 6:29pm

SpiritOtter

Another one funkmunki, unless someone like Moonie or Tron or Boris et al has something to contribute.

love,
Spirit
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Reply #85 posted 04/11/12 10:25am

SpiritOtter

TrevorAyer said:

if this thread is still cooking i may have more time to run down the list in detail .. but for now prince would do very well to drop 10 outtakes/boots for 10 bucks on a single disk with decent period photos and some good liner notes .. this 21 nights book crap and other ventures in general retardation does him no favors .. it wouldnt hurt to put out a live series like pearl jam or phish .. he would make tons with very little work .. seems he would rather stare at his purple navel tho




The idea is useful but nowhere near the mark for a serious musician and elder statesmen such as Prince. The retrospective edition requires time, work and input from various sources, including Warner Brothers. It also requires strong distribution channels to be fit for the marketplace, even if the demographic is uptown 500,000 consumers with high standards regarding expectations on the quality of the delivered product. Also, at the potential pricing points for the various products, as well as the multi million dollar gross revenue generation, the project requires strong business acumen as well as a world class team. genius retrospective for a genius is required to celebrate his legacy, move forward with new music and please both old hardcore fans and potentially treat his newer fans with a delectable treat if and when they can afford to be hardcore. As RD says, 't
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Reply #86 posted 04/11/12 10:28am

SpiritOtter

As RD says, 'the sickness' costs ALOT of time, dedication, money and love.

love,
Spirit
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Reply #87 posted 04/11/12 11:07am

LittleNicci

SpiritOtter said:

TheDigitalGardener,



Yours is a good query.



$1999.00 is a potential price that has been suggested for the product. However, like yourself, I blinked.



Therefore, I was wondering what you would pay for:



1. 3 Double Records / 3 Double CDs / 1 DVD of unreleased Prince music (e.g. above)


2. 7, as yet unreleased, live DVD's of specific tours + associated aftershows (Blue-ray)


3. 1, 200-page, illustrated and photographed, independent Prince-authorised biography



And how many people do you think would buy it at your suggested price?



love,


Spirit



I would say its clearly a case of supply & demand if there were many many copies then pay less now if there were say only 2 or 3 then u can charge big money

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Reply #88 posted 04/19/12 4:20am

HamsterHuey

IstenSzek said:

TRON said:

I love you Lars!

i need a tranquilizer now lol

I love you weirdo's.

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Reply #89 posted 04/19/12 6:14am

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An officially released collection of previously unreleased songs and out-takes is definitely something I would consider buying, as long as it wasn't priced prohibitively.

For a bootleg collection of songs that somebody has subjectively "considered of GENIUS* quality in terms of creative concept, execution and, overall, wow factor" and cobbled together, all of which I probably already have, I would pay precisely £0 - even if it were bundled with a pretentious book.

"Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge"" ~ Isaac Asimov
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