This 12" was used on P's 1985 Birthday gig along with a 12" with a longer version of "Holly Rock"...
These versions were to be released and several testpressings of each, of which this is one of, were made and presented to several labels including WB who rejected them...
After the cancellation and withdrawal of this particular order an edited extended version was made and released instead months later, same for "Holly Rock"...
Neversin.
[Edited 4/1/12 3:36am]
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“Is man merely a mistake of God's? Or God merely a mistake of man's?”
This 12" was used on P's 1985 Birthday gig along with a 12" with a longer version of "Holly Rock"...
These versions were to be released and several testpressings of each, of which this is one of, were made and presented to several labels including WB who rejected them...
After the cancellation and withdrawal of this particular order an edited extended version was made and released instead months later, same for "Holly Rock"...
Neversin.
[Edited 4/1/12 3:36am]
Who's got the Holly Rock? I gotta hear that!!
Don't hate your neighbors. Hate the media that tells you to hate your neighbors.
It's a 12 inch extended version of "The Dance Electric" by Andre Cymone. The official existing version of this song was a little over 5 minutes. This is 12 minutes!!!
You can hear Wendy & Lisa and I swear I hear Prince screaming in the mix.
Extra lyrics and that guitar solo at the end. Man!!!
Has this really never been out there til now?
I'm LOVING IT!!!!!!!!
Yeah, I got the 12 inch. I am looking at it now from Andre. But, I also have two versions of Prince singing Dance Electric. One version from The Work runs 11:43 and the other from Work 2.0 at 11:39.
"A united state of mind will never be divided
The real definition of unity is 1
People can slam their door, disagree and fight it
But how U gonna love the Father but not love the Son?
United States of Division"
This 12" was used on P's 1985 Birthday gig along with a 12" with a longer version of "Holly Rock"...
These versions were to be released and several testpressings of each, of which this is one of, were made and presented to several labels including WB who rejected them...
After the cancellation and withdrawal of this particular order an edited extended version was made and released instead months later, same for "Holly Rock"...
Neversin.
[Edited 4/1/12 3:36am]
Who's got the Holly Rock? I gotta hear that!!
I have both, what do you have to offer for trade?
Neversin.
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“Is man merely a mistake of God's? Or God merely a mistake of man's?”
This is astonishing to say the least, even with the choppy ending! I'd been dreaming of getting a clean version of it for almost 20 years!!!
I wonder whether this stream has been Prince-approved or, at least, André-approved (André being the legal owner of that particular version's master). I'd tend to think that Funkenberry wouldn't fuck with Prince by releasing a bootleg without his consent, considering that he regaularly gets exclusives from Prince and wouldn't want to mess such a relationship. On the other hand this has been twitted and not signaled on the blog, as if wanting to keep a low profile about it.
Mmmh...
He is no more the owner of this song or master than The Time are owners of any version of "Cool"...
Yes he does. Or more precisely Columbia Records (i.e. Sony Music these days) did own it back in 1985 and I assumed that they gave André his masters back for the rerelease. I just checked on Discogs and the rerelease's back cover says "(p) Big Break Records", so it seems that Big Break bought the masters from Sony. No matter what, Prince doesn't own it.
Prince's situation with his WB/PP side-projects is different (though unclear for many of them), but anything he gave to artists who had a contract independly of him and/or Paisley Park belong to said artists' labels. Whether Prince can claim these recordings or at least parts of them after the 35 years thing is ambiguous since no one knows who - between composers, arrangers, singers, producers and even session musicians - will get what when artists start to claim their masters back.
As for whether Prince owns the master track of a song with his own vocals when the released version was the artist's voice rerecorded on Prince's backing tracks or not, it's a complete legal vacuum. Technically the instrumental part of The Dance Electric belongs to Big Break (or Sony or André), so it's likely that Prince cannot claim the original recording as his own, since his vocals (which belong to him) are recorded over an instrumental track that belongs to Big Break (or Sony or André). Only a judge would be in a position to decide I guess.
This 12" was used on P's 1985 Birthday gig along with a 12" with a longer version of "Holly Rock"...
These versions were to be released and several testpressings of each, of which this is one of, were made and presented to several labels including WB who rejected them...
After the cancellation and withdrawal of this particular order an edited extended version was made and released instead months later, same for "Holly Rock"...
Neversin.
[Edited 4/1/12 3:36am]
I don't understand: André was under contract with Columbia in 1985, so how could anything he sang be presented to any other label?
the simple facts that the rules of the site don't allow such videos to be posted here is fact enough that it's not really prince or you would not have been allowed to post it
This 12" was used on P's 1985 Birthday gig along with a 12" with a longer version of "Holly Rock"...
These versions were to be released and several testpressings of each, of which this is one of, were made and presented to several labels including WB who rejected them...
After the cancellation and withdrawal of this particular order an edited extended version was made and released instead months later, same for "Holly Rock"...
Neversin.
[Edited 4/1/12 3:36am]
I don't understand: André was under contract with Columbia in 1985, so how could anything he sang be presented to any other label?
For what it's worth, the picture of the vinyl shows that it was a CBS test pressing, not a WB one.
the simple facts that the rules of the site don't allow such videos to be posted here is fact enough that it's not really prince or you would not have been allowed to post it
This 12" was used on P's 1985 Birthday gig along with a 12" with a longer version of "Holly Rock"...
These versions were to be released and several testpressings of each, of which this is one of, were made and presented to several labels including WB who rejected them...
After the cancellation and withdrawal of this particular order an edited extended version was made and released instead months later, same for "Holly Rock"...
Neversin.
[Edited 4/1/12 3:36am]
I don't understand: André was under contract with Columbia in 1985, so how could anything he sang be presented to any other label?
As a "one-off" release... CBS and WB made the testpressings at request for possible one-off release, but if rejected these could then be shopped around as a one-off deal to other labels (which fell through since no label wanted them without Prince's name on 'em) and then Prince GAVE the songs to André and Sheila and they ended up on CBS and WB releases in an approved and butchered form...
Same deal years later with Prince's "Camille", "I Wish U Heaven" and "Gett Off" testpressings/promos, instead the latter was pressed independantly and later released in edited form on WB...
Neversin.
[Edited 4/2/12 12:00pm]
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