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Thread started 03/15/12 10:44pm

EyeJester7

NAACP Awards 05 Guitar Solo/ Guitar Abilities?

What's up Fam!

Prince is a remarkable guitar player IMO, and there are many solos I deem outstanding and just beautifully done.

WITH THAT BEING SAID...

I'm very curious to know the name (If there is one) of the solo Prince played at the NAACP Awards back in 05, when he won the image award.

If you know what I'm talking about PLEASE HELP! lol

It's the last section of his performance, right after 'The Glamorous Life' he picks up the guitar and just shreds it!

You obviously can see Carlos Santana's influence on Prince's work and this solo seems very Santana inspired, if not a Santana song itself? Perhaps???

It has a sweet Latin feel, that is remarkable. I have been listening to it these past days, and wonder if there is a full version available, if this is a song? Or if Prince just came up with this on the spot?

I am sure not many of you might not be able to help, unless you frequently go back to some of his TV performances like me. Haha

This whole performance on the NAACP is one of his best, it contains so many styles and textures of Prince so well. The last section in particular is one of the most memorable for me, and maybe it's because I'm really digging Santana at the moment and this solo is very Santana?...Hahaha. ...Nevertheless..I just want to know IF by chance do you know...the name of this solo or was it just improvised?

If you don't know the answer to any of these questions..Then what do you think about Prince's guitar abilities as it pertains to the different styles he could play? Or is he just an average guitar player in Pop, like I heard someone say... eek

Thanks a lot!

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Reply #1 posted 03/16/12 2:56am

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Especially since the 90s, Prince would actually not play any Solo the way he played it on record. On one hand, he just became such a brilliant guitar player that he didn't have to think of more than merely sketches and most of his solos are quite off the cuff, on the other hand it's probably a bit of laziness too. Can't imagine Prince spending hours on one guitar solo, as forward moving as he is (and as his live shows are, musically).

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Reply #2 posted 03/16/12 10:01am

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The solo you're talking about is from a Santana Medley.Santana Medley is a mix of two Santana songs Jungle Strut and Toussant overture.Prince had played Santana medley many many times,you can find Santana Medley played even with Santana himself.the part your talking about is from extended coda meant for improvisation but overall Santana Medley was a note by note cover of Santana's Jungle Strut.
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Reply #3 posted 03/16/12 11:24am

EyeJester7

thebanishedone said:

The solo you're talking about is from a Santana Medley.Santana Medley is a mix of two Santana songs Jungle Strut and Toussant overture.Prince had played Santana medley many many times,you can find Santana Medley played even with Santana himself.the part your talking about is from extended coda meant for improvisation but overall Santana Medley was a note by note cover of Santana's Jungle Strut.

Thank you so much for informing me! I really appreciate it. I'm going to have to check it out right now! I know I can count on someone giving me the information, that is accurate! I have to check the clip of them both performing, was that during "The Welcome 2 America Tour"? Thank you again! smile

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Reply #4 posted 03/16/12 12:08pm

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Dave1992 said:

Especially since the 90s, Prince would actually not play any Solo the way he played it on record. On one hand, he just became such a brilliant guitar player that he didn't have to think of more than merely sketches and most of his solos are quite off the cuff, on the other hand it's probably a bit of laziness too. Can't imagine Prince spending hours on one guitar solo, as forward moving as he is (and as his live shows are, musically).

You're right about that! His solos are much more rich live than on record. Some solos he does on record shows his skill. Some that come in mind are: Boom, Colonized Mind, Shhh, Dear Michaelangelo..etc. I totally agree with you on your points. I wish Prince would just dedicate a show to just guitar playing! It's part of the reason I love The Montreux shows so much. He really shreaded and made known his skill there. smile I wish he would spend more time on drums too. smile

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Reply #5 posted 03/16/12 12:09pm

EyeJester7

I just heard a live version of Jungle Strut back in the mid 90's when he has that hat on with the rosses! WOW!!!!! This man is just out the water! SO great!

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Reply #6 posted 03/16/12 9:36pm

thecloud

I believe you are talking about 6-9-94 at the Glam Slam where he opens with "Jungle Strut" and literally kills it. I just got a better boot of that show last week!

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Reply #7 posted 03/16/12 11:55pm

EyeJester7

thecloud said:

I believe you are talking about 6-9-94 at the Glam Slam where he opens with "Jungle Strut" and literally kills it. I just got a better boot of that show last week!

That is exactly what I AM TALKING ABOUT!!! headbang WHAT A JAM! HE really killed that! I mean seriously! I got one too! It's just INSANE!

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Reply #8 posted 03/17/12 7:13am

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EyeJester7 said:


You're right about that! His solos are much more rich live than on record. Some solos he does on record shows his skill. Some that come in mind are: Boom, Colonized Mind, Shhh, Dear Michaelangelo..etc. I totally agree with you on your points. I wish Prince would just dedicate a show to just guitar playing! It's part of the reason I love The Montreux shows so much. He really shreaded and made known his skill there. smile I wish he would spend more time on drums too. smile



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Reply #9 posted 03/17/12 10:38am

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This clip is off the chain allright.

When they launch into The Bird and go to a shot of future President of the United States Barrack Obama waving his fist in the air, getting all giddy like a fam, you know it's ON.

I mean how often has that happened? biggrin

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Reply #10 posted 03/17/12 12:44pm

EyeJester7

Hatman said:

EyeJester7 said:

You're right about that! His solos are much more rich live than on record. Some solos he does on record shows his skill. Some that come in mind are: Boom, Colonized Mind, Shhh, Dear Michaelangelo..etc. I totally agree with you on your points. I wish Prince would just dedicate a show to just guitar playing! It's part of the reason I love The Montreux shows so much. He really shreaded and made known his skill there. smile I wish he would spend more time on drums too. smile

What's Dear Michelangelo?

faint

JK..It's a song off of Shelia E's Album 'Romance 1600' It has a beautiful guitar solo. Haha. It's the same one from "The Rapture" from The Scandalous Sex Suite. The difference is, the one on 'The Rapture' is much slower, and digitally changed a bit. It's one of my favorite guitar solos! Haha. One of his best on wax!

You should check it out if you haven't heard it, you might dig it? biggrin

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Reply #11 posted 03/17/12 12:45pm

EyeJester7

fms said:

This clip is off the chain allright.

When they launch into The Bird and go to a shot of future President of the United States Barrack Obama waving his fist in the air, getting all giddy like a fam, you know it's ON.

I mean how often has that happened? biggrin

Hecks YEAH! I mean, everybody was getting it down! They seemed floored! He really put on a show! smile It was ON cause Prince had to show them, what they come there for! Haha

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Reply #12 posted 03/17/12 3:30pm

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EyeJester7 said:

Dave1992 said:

Especially since the 90s, Prince would actually not play any Solo the way he played it on record. On one hand, he just became such a brilliant guitar player that he didn't have to think of more than merely sketches and most of his solos are quite off the cuff, on the other hand it's probably a bit of laziness too. Can't imagine Prince spending hours on one guitar solo, as forward moving as he is (and as his live shows are, musically).

You're right about that! His solos are much more rich live than on record. Some solos he does on record shows his skill. Some that come in mind are: Boom, Colonized Mind, Shhh, Dear Michaelangelo..etc. I totally agree with you on your points. I wish Prince would just dedicate a show to just guitar playing! It's part of the reason I love The Montreux shows so much. He really shreaded and made known his skill there. smile I wish he would spend more time on drums too. smile

The 2006 mini-tour with Tamar showcased his guitar, please tell me you caught one & if not at least have boot of one of these shows!!!!!!!

I've seen him live in 1988, 1997, 2004, 2006, & 2010 & all were great, but being a guitarist & watching him just focus on playing left me with one of the greatest memories i'll ever have!

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Reply #13 posted 03/17/12 4:50pm

EyeJester7

thecloud said:

EyeJester7 said:

You're right about that! His solos are much more rich live than on record. Some solos he does on record shows his skill. Some that come in mind are: Boom, Colonized Mind, Shhh, Dear Michaelangelo..etc. I totally agree with you on your points. I wish Prince would just dedicate a show to just guitar playing! It's part of the reason I love The Montreux shows so much. He really shreaded and made known his skill there. smile I wish he would spend more time on drums too. smile

The 2006 mini-tour with Tamar showcased his guitar, please tell me you caught one & if not at least have boot of one of these shows!!!!!!!

I've seen him live in 1988, 1997, 2004, 2006, & 2010 & all were great, but being a guitarist & watching him just focus on playing left me with one of the greatest memories i'll ever have!

Really?? I wished I could have seemed him in all of those eras! I did see a couple of the boots and his guitar is slamming! REALLY HARD! I wish I caught him in Montreaux! He was off the HOOK! Really slamming forward and back! headbang headbang

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Reply #14 posted 03/17/12 5:35pm

thecloud

Yes the Montruex shows were flat-out sick when I 1st listened to them. Good set-lists to begin were a plus to go along with the clean-sounding boots, but when the dvd's surfaced I was like whoaaaaa. Show #1 was great, but show # 2 is where I really get my ass kicked.

Have you ever listened to "Prince, Josh & Cora" a aftershow boot from 2007 Eyejester7?

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Reply #15 posted 03/17/12 7:02pm

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There is a more then one soundboard recordings of Jungle Strat.in my opinion Prince plays early Santana better then Santana himself today. Prince played many guitar based shows,it was only during the late 8o's that his guitar took a back seat on his shows.
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Reply #16 posted 03/17/12 10:48pm

EyeJester7

thecloud said:

Yes the Montruex shows were flat-out sick when I 1st listened to them. Good set-lists to begin were a plus to go along with the clean-sounding boots, but when the dvd's surfaced I was like whoaaaaa. Show #1 was great, but show # 2 is where I really get my ass kicked.



Have you ever listened to "Prince, Josh & Cora" a aftershow boot from 2007 Eyejester7?


Yes! Talk about Funky! That man was off the chain! You are so right! Perfect setlists! Who expected to hear: When Eye Lay My Hands On U or All This Love? I still can't get enough of 'All The Critics Love U In Montreux'/Empty Room/Love Like Jazz-All This Love/Spanish Castle Magic/When You Were Mine! Hell the whole damn thing is out of this world! Lol HE showcases true shownship through those performances! People discredit him as a guitar player but he is very much on his game! I really enjoy both of the shows! Just incredible! You are so lucky to have seen him so many times already! Unfortunately I haven't seen that Boot yet! I am getting excited to look for it and hear it! Lol! My name is Jesse by the way! smile thanks for mentions this bootleg! I already know it will be a treat to watch it! Pump me up and tell me how awesome it will be! Haha! I really look forward To new Prince material because I already know I will be in for a treat 4 sure! Haha
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Reply #17 posted 03/17/12 10:53pm

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thebanishedone said:

There is a more then one soundboard recordings of Jungle Strat.in my opinion Prince plays early Santana better then Santana himself today. Prince played many guitar based shows,it was only during the late 8o's that his guitar took a back seat on his shows.

O Yes! I can't wait to hear more versions of that song! It has already become one my favorites! Prince really plays well! Santana is an impeccable player that blows me away each one! He carries strong melodies in his tunes! Prince really knows how to Jam! I am glad he is much forward with his guitar playing now. He definitely seems to use his guitar as his instrument of choice. smile
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Reply #18 posted 03/18/12 2:04am

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EyeJester7 said:

thecloud said:

Yes the Montruex shows were flat-out sick when I 1st listened to them. Good set-lists to begin were a plus to go along with the clean-sounding boots, but when the dvd's surfaced I was like whoaaaaa. Show #1 was great, but show # 2 is where I really get my ass kicked.

Have you ever listened to "Prince, Josh & Cora" a aftershow boot from 2007 Eyejester7?

Yes! Talk about Funky! That man was off the chain! You are so right! Perfect setlists! Who expected to hear: When Eye Lay My Hands On U or All This Love? I still can't get enough of 'All The Critics Love U In Montreux'/Empty Room/Love Like Jazz-All This Love/Spanish Castle Magic/When You Were Mine! Hell the whole damn thing is out of this world! Lol HE showcases true shownship through those performances! People discredit him as a guitar player but he is very much on his game! I really enjoy both of the shows! Just incredible! You are so lucky to have seen him so many times already! Unfortunately I haven't seen that Boot yet! I am getting excited to look for it and hear it! Lol! My name is Jesse by the way! smile thanks for mentions this bootleg! I already know it will be a treat to watch it! Pump me up and tell me how awesome it will be! Haha! I really look forward To new Prince material because I already know I will be in for a treat 4 sure! Haha

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Reply #19 posted 03/18/12 6:45am

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EyeJester7 said:



fms said:


This clip is off the chain allright.


When they launch into The Bird and go to a shot of future President of the United States Barrack Obama waving his fist in the air, getting all giddy like a fam, you know it's ON.


I mean how often has that happened? biggrin



Hecks YEAH! I mean, everybody was getting it down! They seemed floored! He really put on a show! smile It was ON cause Prince had to show them, what they come there for! Haha



His performance on the show was decidedly average. Housequake was censored and done half-assed, without any energy, as was DMSR. In fact, the only positive parts were seeing Sheila and Morris/Jerome. Maybe it was the band he had then, but there was something seriously lacking for this performance.
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Reply #20 posted 03/18/12 8:46am

EyeJester7

thecloud said:



EyeJester7 said:


thecloud said:

Yes the Montruex shows were flat-out sick when I 1st listened to them. Good set-lists to begin were a plus to go along with the clean-sounding boots, but when the dvd's surfaced I was like whoaaaaa. Show #1 was great, but show # 2 is where I really get my ass kicked.



Have you ever listened to "Prince, Josh & Cora" a aftershow boot from 2007 Eyejester7?



Yes! Talk about Funky! That man was off the chain! You are so right! Perfect setlists! Who expected to hear: When Eye Lay My Hands On U or All This Love? I still can't get enough of 'All The Critics Love U In Montreux'/Empty Room/Love Like Jazz-All This Love/Spanish Castle Magic/When You Were Mine! Hell the whole damn thing is out of this world! Lol HE showcases true shownship through those performances! People discredit him as a guitar player but he is very much on his game! I really enjoy both of the shows! Just incredible! You are so lucky to have seen him so many times already! Unfortunately I haven't seen that Boot yet! I am getting excited to look for it and hear it! Lol! My name is Jesse by the way! smile thanks for mentions this bootleg! I already know it will be a treat to watch it! Pump me up and tell me how awesome it will be! Haha! I really look forward To new Prince material because I already know I will be in for a treat 4 sure! Haha


Are you in the states?


Yes! For now, I will be living in Europe by the September! smile
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Reply #21 posted 03/18/12 10:08am

EyeJester7

alexnvrmnd777 said:

EyeJester7 said:

Hecks YEAH! I mean, everybody was getting it down! They seemed floored! He really put on a show! smile It was ON cause Prince had to show them, what they come there for! Haha

His performance on the show was decidedly average. Housequake was censored and done half-assed, without any energy, as was DMSR. In fact, the only positive parts were seeing Sheila and Morris/Jerome. Maybe it was the band he had then, but there was something seriously lacking for this performance.

eek...smile JK

I have to agree and disagree with you though. I agree that Prince by no means demonstrated his TRUE and Consummate skill, during this performance. When I watched it over and over, I could not help but feel, It was lacking something..When I first saw it in detail, I was not blown away. Which normally happens... Because we all know when he wants to put on a show he can very well do so! smile However, I think since he had a lot people working in his band, he ultimately showcased all of the members of his family, of music so to speak...

He seemed to be in a place of "Deep thought" for some reason?. Haha. He seemed focused on demonstrating the talents of his band. He had a tight band, and everybody was on key perfectly. He seemed to truly lack and capture his whole skill- AS One Man Doing Everything...

This was also back in 05'. Everybody seemed somewhat 'shocked' because, remember since the early 00's he reworked his famous 'Raunchy..dirty' songs. He stopped singing them in totality.

This is around the time he had a 'Comeback' and he did come back..with a new work and flow. AND he became a Jehovah's Witness..Haha

He couldn't say "Everybody, get on the floor, WHAT THE HELL you come here for? Girl, it ain't not use...you might as well get loose, work that body like a WHORE" Or..How many of yall people know about the quake..BULL SHIT!" Haha. Besides being on National TV...He had a new look and a new taste around this time. He stopped cursing, but I agree re-working the lyrics fail some cases. I mean "Get busy in the middle of a restuarant" is kind of lame..haha. That's a different story though..Makes me think about an idea of another thread I should start, here. lol


Overall, He did not come with the expected. He came with a jazzy, latina vibe..and ultimately I thinked it worked. '3121' had a fusion of funk, latin, and rock that I think worked well. ALL of the songs he performed had a sense of 'exotic' to it. NOT what anyone really expected. I mean 'Jungle Strut' was pretty much signature to the 'Latin' feel he seemed to want to create. It's not the typical 'Purple Rain/Little Red Corvette/ Let's Go Crazy' ordeal. He had to show them something else..and I am glad he did. Haha

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