Dear Prince.org,

My team of Prince-heads across the globe have been working to create an inspiring psychohistoriography befitting his legacy.

However, I am conscious of the beauty of new insights and wisdom across generations, young and old. As a result, I would like you to consider this thread a working out of what was going on for Prince, and you, specifically during the Dirty Mind era.

I will be active on this thread with those individuals who are engaged with the content and process of our psychohistoriographic work. To begin with, what are your honest, authentic, impressions of the Dirty Mind album and era?

Cue the album up, listen to the lyrics, revisit Per's conclusions, and tell us what the album represented to you then and how it sounds to you now.

'Tis a real shame that Handclaps is no longer here. The question is, have you really got a Dirty Mind?

love,

Spirit

dude wore womens panties

fucked his sister

came all over a wedding gown

and denied he was gay

Thanks for inviting me to participate in this thread, 'Otter. Unfortunately, DIRTY MIND was not a record that was on my radar at the time of its release in 1980. I discovered Prince as most of us did when I Wanna Be Your Lover was released and was actually turned off by it at the time. I found it (and it's marketing) quite fey. I rediscovered him when the CONTROVERSY single was being played on radio and my interest built from that point on, but it wasn't until after Purple Rain that a friend hipped me to the DIRTY MIND album. So I missed its orginal impact.

SpiritOtter said:

Dear Prince.org,

My team of Prince-heads across the globe have been working to create an inspiring psychohistoriography befitting his legacy.

However, I am conscious of the beauty of new insights and wisdom across generations, young and old. As a result, I would like you to consider this thread a working out of what was going on for Prince, and you, specifically during the Dirty Mind era.

I will be active on this thread with those individuals who are engaged with the content and process of our psychohistoriographic work. To begin with, what are your honest, authentic, impressions of the Dirty Mind album and era?

Cue the album up, listen to the lyrics, revisit Per's conclusions, and tell us what the album represented to you then and how it sounds to you now.

'Tis a real shame that Handclaps is no longer here. The question is, have you really got a Dirty Mind?

love,

Spirit

Your "team", huh? "Psychohistographic work", huh?

Do you actually believe this nonsense?

i'm fixated on the video to Mountains so much i cry for 1986, even though i lived in a largely music free house growing up and didn't start singing Prince songs until 1987 (u know, the way they filter through the telly at the time)

good luck with your crowdsourcing, i presume you're cross referencing the data with expansions in broadcast technology through the years

Jestyr said:

Thanks for inviting me to participate in this thread, 'Otter. Unfortunately, DIRTY MIND was not a record that was on my radar at the time of its release in 1980. I discovered Prince as most of us did when I Wanna Be Your Lover was released and was actually turned off by it at the time. I found it (and it's marketing) quite fey. I rediscovered him when the CONTROVERSY single was being played on radio and my interest built from that point on, but it wasn't until after Purple Rain that a friend hipped me to the DIRTY MIND album. So I missed its orginal impact.

Jessie,

You're welcome. I am interested that you found the marketing of Prince "fey" in '79. Fey for men, women, straight, gay; fey in what sense - can you elaborate a little further?

More importantly, given that you discovered P's early years looking retrospectively backwards from '84, can I ask you to draw your mind and emotions back to how Dirty Mind spoke to you when you did first experience it?

How did it compare to Controversy, 1999 and Purple Rain, given that I assume you had lived with these eras before? And what struck you, then, both thematically and musically, as either interesting, useful or, dare I say it, even genius, about Dirty Mind?

Finally, if I may, how do you find Dirty Mind sits with you now? You, afterall, are a veritable giant in your respective field of career. And, with age, I know you are wiser than you were back in your earlier days, what conclusions do you draw about Prince and the Dirty Mind era now?

As always, Jessie, with love,

'Otter

TwiliteKid said:

SpiritOtter said:

Dear Prince.org,

My team of Prince-heads across the globe have been working to create an inspiring psychohistoriography befitting his legacy.

However, I am conscious of the beauty of new insights and wisdom across generations, young and old. As a result, I would like you to consider this thread a working out of what was going on for Prince, and you, specifically during the Dirty Mind era.

I will be active on this thread with those individuals who are engaged with the content and process of our psychohistoriographic work. To begin with, what are your honest, authentic, impressions of the Dirty Mind album and era?

Cue the album up, listen to the lyrics, revisit Per's conclusions, and tell us what the album represented to you then and how it sounds to you now.

'Tis a real shame that Handclaps is no longer here. The question is, have you really got a Dirty Mind?

love,

Spirit

Your "team", huh? "Psychohistographic work", huh?

Do you actually believe this nonsense?

TwiliteKid,

No, I do not believe it for a second.

Why? Do you believe it?

If so, are you a fool?

love,

Spirit

mrsquirrel said:

i'm fixated on the video to Mountains so much i cry for 1986, even though i lived in a largely music free house growing up and didn't start singing Prince songs until 1987 (u know, the way they filter through the telly at the time)

good luck with your crowdsourcing, i presume you're cross referencing the data with expansions in broadcast technology through the years

mrsquirrel,

What do you mean by cross referencing the data with expansions in broadcast technology?

love,

Spirit

sometimes i get a really eerie feeling about some of these posters

mark chapman springs to mind.............

jonylawson,

If you mean what you say, say what you actually mean.

In other words, stand up, be a man, for once...but only if you can.

love,

Spirit

SpiritOtter said:

jonylawson,

If you mean what you say, say what you actually mean.

In other words, stand up, be a man, for once...but only if you can.

love,

Spirit

Sorry man.

your whole vibe gives me the creeps.

just looked up your "qualifications" too.....

Very dubious.

no wonder almost all your threads die a death...im watching you "doctor"

jonylawson,

You make me smile.

Settle down, 'fella.

love,

Spirit

SpiritOtter said:

jonylawson,

If you mean what you say, say what you actually mean.

In other words, stand up, be a man, for once...but only if you can.

love,

Spirit

since when does a batchelor of science give you the right to call yourself a "doctor"

explain please.

google is an amazing thing.

and a grown ass man talking like a cod spiritual sixth former is frankly disturbing

im all for the clearing the org out of this creepy bullshit

jonylawson,

Would I be correct in assuming you are not a Doctor of any discipline?

Clearly, science is not your forte; bless you.

love,

Spirit

SpiritOtter said:

jonylawson,

Would I be correct in assuming you are not a Doctor of any discipline?

Clearly, science is not your forte; bless you.

love,

Spirit

[Edited 2/16/12 23:47pm]

sorry i forgot

love

jony

jonylawson,

I could tell you were not a Doctor of any discipline.

Nonetheless, thank you for your explanation.

love,

Spirit

jonylawson said:

sometimes i get a really eerie feeling about some of these posters

mark chapman springs to mind.............

quiet! something is spooking the ostriches!

jonylawson said:

sometimes i get a really eerie feeling about some of these posters

mark chapman springs to mind.............

thats bart,not anj

rdhull said:

jonylawson said:

sometimes i get a really eerie feeling about some of these posters

mark chapman springs to mind.............

thats bart,not anj

no this mr.otter gets my vote for creepiest orger by far.

very odd as well pretending to be a doctor with a batchelor of science...and an incredibly odd CV

Dr Anjan Nath BSc (Hons) DPsych CPsychol AFBPsS
Senior Executive, GENIUS

SpiritOtter said:

jonylawson,

I could tell you were not a Doctor of any discipline.

Nonetheless, thank you for your explanation.

love,

Spirit

the question remains

why do you call yourself a "dr" and secondly what have you "pioneered" and in what field?

THe advent of psychology as a night class has alot to answer for.........

nurse lawson,

Be a good girl now and attend to the patients, please.

love,

Dr Otter

SpiritOtter said:

KeithyT,

Now if there's someone who's actually nice, it's you ol' fella. Dirty Mind, please...

...as in, your quintessentially British experience of it?

Don't be shy...

& don't just giggle.

love,

Spirit

SpiritOtter said:

jonylawson,

I could tell you were not a Doctor of any discipline.

Nonetheless, thank you for your explanation.

love,

Spirit

he's actually a doctor of who

KeithyT said:

Thank-you. I'll give you a brief (pun intended) summary of my thoughts, completely off the cuff so apologies if this reads fragmented... I came to Prince late despite being aware of him since 1984. It wasn't until SOTT/Lovesexy/Batman that I really got into him. Like lots of people I bought up his back catalogue and I seem to recall Dirty Mind being one of the first purchases. The sparse synth stabs and demo-like sound was a culture shock to my ears, and sounded quite different to the multi-layered, funky guitar licked, strings and horn embellished songs of 87, 88 and 89 (still my favourite era). But it did still strike a chord and although I did not really understand what it was at the time, it is that quintessential Prince MPLS sound. It belongs in the holy trinity of albums with Controversy and 1999. They all have that same punchy synth quality ( wab, wab, wab, copyright rdhull) and almost muted feel to the vocals. Dated but not dated. From the early 80s but timeless. Image-wise, he seems like Mick Jagger in his approach, skinny glam-rough, neckerchiefs, high leggings and bikin briefs with a trenchcoat to twirl and open and close while he struts, preens and makes faces to camera. I think he was finally getting serious here. About who he was, the musical direction he was taking and so he felt comfortable. I think was the start of his FU attitude. Prince "arrived" in 1980 in my humble opinion. Just a shame I was unaware of it at the time...

same sentiments here...I came a bit late to th eparty post 1980 Prince became Prince

RD,

Is that all you've got left in the tank?

Where's the fire in your belly?

Dirty Mind, please.

love,
Spirit

KeithyT said:

Thank-you. I'll give you a brief (pun intended) summary of my thoughts, completely off the cuff so apologies if this reads fragmented... I came to Prince late despite being aware of him since 1984. It wasn't until SOTT/Lovesexy/Batman that I really got into him. Like lots of people I bought up his back catalogue and I seem to recall Dirty Mind being one of the first purchases. The sparse synth stabs and demo-like sound was a culture shock to my ears, and sounded quite different to the multi-layered, funky guitar licked, strings and horn embellished songs of 87, 88 and 89 (still my favourite era). But it did still strike a chord and although I did not really understand what it was at the time, it is that quintessential Prince MPLS sound. It belongs in the holy trinity of albums with Controversy and 1999. They all have that same punchy synth quality ( wab, wab, wab, copyright rdhull) and almost muted feel to the vocals. Dated but not dated. From the early 80s but timeless. Image-wise, he seems like Mick Jagger in his approach, skinny glam-rough, neckerchiefs, high leggings and bikin briefs with a trenchcoat to twirl and open and close while he struts, preens and makes faces to camera. I think he was finally getting serious here. About who he was, the musical direction he was taking and so he felt comfortable. I think was the start of his FU attitude. Prince "arrived" in 1980 in my humble opinion. Just a shame I was unaware of it at the time...

KeithyT,

Copy. Print. Save.

Thank you.

love,

Spirit