http://www.pinkfloydfan.net/t1475-david-gilmour-rightful-heir-q.html

full interview at that link, taken from Q magazine september 1990 (22 years ago )

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WetDream said:

I agree. MJ's post 80s shows were lacking, big time. Prince said recently that MJ hardly ever surrounded himself with a great band, and thus suffered. Gilmour is just saying the same thing from a different angle. Gilmour would probably be a person from "that band" and could of added the goods. It ain't a diss on anyone's part, just genuine criticisms about someone who became a bit lost in the machine.

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Really? Did he say that in an official interview?

Emancipation89 said:

WetDream said:

I agree. MJ's post 80s shows were lacking, big time. Prince said recently that MJ hardly ever surrounded himself with a great band, and thus suffered. Gilmour is just saying the same thing from a different angle. Gilmour would probably be a person from "that band" and could of added the goods. It ain't a diss on anyone's part, just genuine criticisms about someone who became a bit lost in the machine.

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Really? Did he say that in an official interview?

I think he did.

I guess this professional must be a Mj hater?

Emancipation89 said:

WetDream said:

I agree. MJ's post 80s shows were lacking, big time. Prince said recently that MJ hardly ever surrounded himself with a great band, and thus suffered. Gilmour is just saying the same thing from a different angle. Gilmour would probably be a person from "that band" and could of added the goods. It ain't a diss on anyone's part, just genuine criticisms about someone who became a bit lost in the machine.

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Really? Did he say that in an official interview?

Graycap23 said:

I guess this professional must be a Mj hater?

Eh? Does it matter? He is kind of right. I always look up to cats who have a tight live band. If Michael had a tight live band, he could've slayed everyone live.

I disagree with David Gilmour. I have seen Michael 3 times and ALL three times it has been the BEST show I have ever seen topping the last. Michael rules live and even though Prince is my favorite artist Michael is the King when it comes to a live show. Just my opinion though. Gilmour is famous so his word is probably bond

Gilmour was being a constructive critic, they shared the same record label at the time, and if anything, Pink Floyd had been playing stadiums and staging spectacles for way longer than Michael at that time. The Bad tour was really the first time he was running the show.

To me, it's a shame Michael didn't get to tour Thriller, and pretty much saw the Victory tour as the last Jacksons tour, instead of doing the solo thing for a while - then at some point, working with his brothers again.

I never knew the Victory tour caused the sale of the New England Patriots though, and once Kraft acquired them, the turnaround happened. I guess without Michael, they wouldn't be in the Super Bowl this weekend. Was funny reading about Kraft owning the Victory poster.

http://www.boston.com/spo...l_jac.html

Guy Pratt plays on Michael's "Earth Song". Not a lot of people could say they played with Pink Floyd, Madonna, and Michael.

Graycap23 said:

I guess this professional must be a Mj hater?

AURGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

why why why why why why????

*COMPOSES HIMSELF*

oh wahts the point..yes your right .dave gilmour from that tiny group pink flod is a "pro hater"

Graycap23 said:

I guess this professional must be a Mj hater?

no, he's one of the worlds greatest guitar players of all time who played in one of the greatest and biggest selling bands of all time with some of the greatest and biggest selling bands of all time who performed some of the greatest and biggest concerts and tours of all time

if you have ever seen some of pink floyds live shows you would see that the make MJ's shows look like a school play

floyd always played proper live without miming, and until the later period floyd it was just the 4 of them onstage apart from when they introduced dick parry on sax or the backing singers for the dark side of the moon. they had the most incredible light shows, they were one of if not the first to have movies created to play at the live shows, going on to add giant puppets and props and culminating in literally building a stage between the band and audience during the wall tour

roger waters solo wall tour was one of the most amazing sights ever seen in concert, just absolutely amazing, and don't forget the wall live at berlin in 1990

these guys reall knew how to put on a great show, but they didn't let the theatrics overshadow the live music performances

i think he's bang on the money. MJ just didn't have the live band, neither did madonna, and miming through his shows was the biggest let down to his fans. he just looks like he's going through the motions during the 90s shows. his body is there and his mind is somewhere else

dandeeland said:

I disagree with David Gilmour. I have seen Michael 3 times and ALL three times it has been the BEST show I have ever seen topping the last. Michael rules live and even though Prince is my favorite artist Michael is the King when it comes to a live show. Just my opinion though. Gilmour is famous so his word is probably bond

oh come on....michael lip synced...had session musicians etc had zero interaction with fans...didnt play shit live......

COME ON!!

(come on shake it down)

jonylawson said:

dandeeland said:

I disagree with David Gilmour. I have seen Michael 3 times and ALL three times it has been the BEST show I have ever seen topping the last. Michael rules live and even though Prince is my favorite artist Michael is the King when it comes to a live show. Just my opinion though. Gilmour is famous so his word is probably bond

oh come on....michael lip synced...had session musicians etc had zero interaction with fans...didnt play shit live......

COME ON!!

(come on shake it down)

I agree, I downloaded some MJ shows a couple years back (I loved everything from Thirller and back) and I was soooooo disappointed. I could not believe he wasnt singing and how lousy the shows were (sound, band and energy).

dandeeland said:

I disagree with David Gilmour. I have seen Michael 3 times and ALL three times it has been the BEST show I have ever seen topping the last. Michael rules live and even though Prince is my favorite artist Michael is the King when it comes to a live show. Just my opinion though. Gilmour is famous so his word is probably bond

He's coming from the POV of a band playing a live show, not a spectacular pyrotechnic extravaganza. Just sayin'.

dandeeland said:

I disagree with David Gilmour. I have seen Michael 3 times and ALL three times it has been the BEST show I have ever seen topping the last. Michael rules live and even though Prince is my favorite artist Michael is the King when it comes to a live show. Just my opinion though. Gilmour is famous so his word is probably bond

how can "michael rules live" when he spent most of his solo concert stage time miming whilst on drugs? when was the last time you say him play live? how old were you at the time, and how close to the stage were you? how many times have you seen prince live, and when was the last time?

have you actually seen pink floyd live in the flesh?

unique said:

Graycap23 said:

I guess this professional must be a Mj hater?

no, he's one of the worlds greatest guitar players of all time who played in one of the greatest and biggest selling bands of all time with some of the greatest and biggest selling bands of all time who performed some of the greatest and biggest concerts and tours of all time

if you have ever seen some of pink floyds live shows you would see that the make MJ's shows look like a school play

floyd always played proper live without miming, and until the later period floyd it was just the 4 of them onstage apart from when they introduced dick parry on sax or the backing singers for the dark side of the moon. they had the most incredible light shows, they were one of if not the first to have movies created to play at the live shows, going on to add giant puppets and props and culminating in literally building a stage between the band and audience during the wall tour

roger waters solo wall tour was one of the most amazing sights ever seen in concert, just absolutely amazing, and don't forget the wall live at berlin in 1990

these guys reall knew how to put on a great show, but they didn't let the theatrics overshadow the live music performances

i think he's bang on the money. MJ just didn't have the live band, neither did madonna, and miming through his shows was the biggest let down to his fans. he just looks like he's going through the motions during the 90s shows. his body is there and his mind is somewhere else

um, I think Graycap was being sarcastic toward the MJ fanatics.

errant said:

unique said:

no, he's one of the worlds greatest guitar players of all time who played in one of the greatest and biggest selling bands of all time with some of the greatest and biggest selling bands of all time who performed some of the greatest and biggest concerts and tours of all time

if you have ever seen some of pink floyds live shows you would see that the make MJ's shows look like a school play

floyd always played proper live without miming, and until the later period floyd it was just the 4 of them onstage apart from when they introduced dick parry on sax or the backing singers for the dark side of the moon. they had the most incredible light shows, they were one of if not the first to have movies created to play at the live shows, going on to add giant puppets and props and culminating in literally building a stage between the band and audience during the wall tour

roger waters solo wall tour was one of the most amazing sights ever seen in concert, just absolutely amazing, and don't forget the wall live at berlin in 1990

these guys reall knew how to put on a great show, but they didn't let the theatrics overshadow the live music performances

i think he's bang on the money. MJ just didn't have the live band, neither did madonna, and miming through his shows was the biggest let down to his fans. he just looks like he's going through the motions during the 90s shows. his body is there and his mind is somewhere else

um, I think Graycap was being sarcastic toward the MJ fanatics.

i fucking hate sarcastic cunts

smoothcriminal12 said:

Graycap23 said:

I guess this professional must be a Mj hater?

Eh? Does it matter? He is kind of right. I always look up to cats who have a tight live band. If Michael had a tight live band, he could've slayed everyone live.

Kind of right? He is 100% right........but Mj fans will lose their lunch over the TRUTH.

unique said:

i fucking hate sarcastic cunts

Say what you feel!

unique said:

errant said:

um, I think Graycap was being sarcastic toward the MJ fanatics.

i fucking hate sarcastic cunts

Graycap23 said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

Eh? Does it matter? He is kind of right. I always look up to cats who have a tight live band. If Michael had a tight live band, he could've slayed everyone live.

Kind of right? He is 100% right........but Mj fans will lose their lunch over the TRUTH.

I would't lose my lunch over this, but this question is for you and anyone. I know some musicians like Prince and Gilmour has a good ear for music. If MJ sucks so much live, why did his fans keep coming back? If it's that bad, how was he able to sell one million tickets before he passed? Some people says he sucks live, and some says he don't. Maybe it's a matter of opinion. What do you think?

dandeeland said:

I disagree with David Gilmour. I have seen Michael 3 times and ALL three times it has been the BEST show I have ever seen topping the last. Michael rules live and even though Prince is my favorite artist Michael is the King when it comes to a live show. Just my opinion though. Gilmour is famous so his word is probably bond

I love MJ, but he didn't hold a candle to Prince or Pink Floyd live.

angel345 said:

Graycap23 said:

Kind of right? He is 100% right........but Mj fans will lose their lunch over the TRUTH.

I would't lose my lunch over this, but this question is for you and anyone. I know some musicians like Prince and Gilmour has a good ear for music. If MJ sucks so much live, why did his fans keep coming back? If it's that bad, how was he able to sell one million tickets before he passed? Some people says he sucks live, and some says he don't. Maybe it's a matter of opinion. What do you think?

Mj puts puts on a nice predictable highly entertaining show from a "I just want 2 have a good time" perspective. If u look at it from a professional, musician related critical angle? He does not. 4 me, it is really as simple as that. I could get into more specific detail but hopefully u get my point.

David Gilmour is right.

I love MJ, but I think he is not that great live, he is a great dancer tho, and he had a great show.. but he doesn't have a really good live band and after BAD tour he actually repeated himself over and over again... boring tbh..

Graycap23 said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

Eh? Does it matter? He is kind of right. I always look up to cats who have a tight live band. If Michael had a tight live band, he could've slayed everyone live.

Kind of right? He is 100% right........

I agree.

I never liked what MJ did live,

last year I came about a Bad tour live recording...... it was just terrible to listen to.

And all that about his lip synching........ not good.

About David Gilmour.. I have huge respect for both him and the PF band, he's brillinat as a guitar player. He knows what he's talking about.

And: of course he is entitled to have an opinion on Prince and MJ - just like everyone else have their opinions...

Respect to David Gilmour I love that man, what he did in Pink Floyd.. brilliant.

unique said:

have you actually seen pink floyd live in the flesh?

I see whatcha did there.

i love Micheal JAckson but the live shows wasn't that good... & to all MJ supporter, don't tell us every time how much tickets or records he sold it's annoying... David Gilmour nows more about (live) music that any other here on this board - & Prince is one of the best live performer if not the best !

glamstar01 said:

i love Micheal JAckson but the live shows wasn't that good... & to all MJ supporter, don't tell us every time how much tickets or records he sold it's annoying... David Gilmour nows more about (live) music that any other here on this board - & Prince is one of the best live performer if not the best !

Putting ticket sales aside, if you came across a product or service that sucks, would you use it or come to that establishment again? My point is he must have been doing something right to have ticketholders come again. All statements here are opinions. I went to a Prince concert one time, and he gave an helluva show. No doubt. Though I am an MJ fan, I have never had the opportunity to go, but before his death, I heard that he was going to do some dates in the USA. I think if I had the chance of a lifetime to go, then I can judge for myself.