Greetings...

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I was thinking about Prince's position in the whole debacle, above. Wikipedia, other major sites shutting down for the day (the org did not btw).

It's a hard one for him, because on the 1 hand, he has vehemently opposed "illegal" sharing of his music, bootlegs included.

Then again, Prince and the music industry, especially the big players, are not best of friends. Surely, he would support the New Breed, as opposed to those of Mendacity?

What are your thoughts on this?

Looks like a Gemini solution is required, and Prince's tension with the Internet represents the issues surrounding Sopa and Pipa ... which today, is signficant.

Peace and be Free

you'd have to be high out of your mind to think prince would be against sopa/pipa

*insert obvious joke about it not being necessary for Andy Allo's fb page to be turned back on here*

Screw SOPA & PIPA

Call your local representative today!!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page

https://www.google.com/la...akeaction/

[Edited 1/18/12 6:54am]

I believe Prince is pro-Sopa and Pipa, but he's still on the fence about Frodo and Sam.

what the fuck s this thread about?

does he know sophie and pippa? eh?

jonylawson said:

what the fuck s this thread about?

does he know sophie and pippa? eh?

I guess this is forgivable since you arent from the US, but theres some legislation(s) being worked with right now to pretty much destroy the internet

BobGeorge909 said:

I unnoticed. P is anti-piracy, but even more so, he's about free speech.

No, he's not.

ludwig said:

BobGeorge909 said:

I unnoticed. P is anti-piracy, but even more so, he's about free speech.

No, he's not.

yeah i think hes confusing prince now with prince 30 years ago

Interesting. It appears most so far think he is for these 2 legal developments. Personally, I think it must be eating him up. I mean, it's a sensitive issue for all of us here. Prince, probably more than many other artists, has had a rocky relationship with fans and the Internet; remember the whole P-Funk debacle. But he must know that hegemony cannot remain in the hands of the powerful players of the musical industry and a balance has to be found some how. I think he's going to have to take a position; this affects him and all of us.

NouveauDance said:

*insert obvious joke about it not being necessary for Andy Allo's fb page to be turned back on here*

NouveauDance said:

*insert obvious joke about it not being necessary for Andy Allo's fb page to be turned back on here*

Insert plea to get off Andy's back, as you spend WAY too much time shitting on her

Pomade said:

Ripopsopapipa, ripopsopapipa... It's all 1's and 0's to Prince. I think the matter's probably over his head. But he'd probably mask it with the usual banalities about a dead medium.

I'm not sure if 1's and 0's refers to money but again I will say...it's sensitive and a hot issue. Let's look at us and Prince (again). Do we continue to download boots, etc. and say it's our freedom to do so, no one can say anything or do we consider the artist, as in Prince? then again, from Prince's point of view, does he sit back & support what appears to be the entertainment industry's attempt to control or stifle creativity when he knows they ain't up 2 no good? or - should Prince start releasing his music for free from now on - seeing some fans don't want 2 pay? It's hard to say - but the point is, these laws relate to the purple community

Praxis said:

He's working with Salt-n-Pepa now?

Pomade said:

Praxis said:

I'm not sure if 1's and 0's refers to money but again I will say...it's sensitive and a hot issue. Let's look at us and Prince (again). Do we continue to download boots, etc. and say it's our freedom to do so, no one can say anything or do we consider the artist, as in Prince? then again, from Prince's point of view, does he sit back & support what appears to be the entertainment industry's attempt to control or stifle creativity when he knows they ain't up 2 no good? or - should Prince start releasing his music for free from now on - seeing some fans don't want 2 pay? It's hard to say - but the point is, these laws relate to the purple community

I don't think it's sensitive for him. And in this case, the digits refer to money and not binary code, yes.

Well, Prince is well aware his music, especially, live...is all over the web; he could be making a huge fuss, but he's actually quiet if U think about it. I don't think he's that insensitive as some may think...in relationship to the digital garden

Praxis said:

Pomade said:

Praxis said: I don't think it's sensitive for him. And in this case, the digits refer to money and not binary code, yes.

Well, Prince is well aware his music, especially, live...is all over the web; he could be making a huge fuss, but he's actually quiet if U think about it. I don't think he's that insensitive as some may think...in relationship to the digital garden

yeah because making a fuss right now cant do anything. if sopa or pipa went through, then he could make tons of fuss. i really dont understand how you could think that a 53 year old bitter(at the internet) devout jehova's witness(therefor hyper conservative) prince could under any stretch of imagination, be against internet censorship

uuhson said:

Praxis said:

Well, Prince is well aware his music, especially, live...is all over the web; he could be making a huge fuss, but he's actually quiet if U think about it. I don't think he's that insensitive as some may think...in relationship to the digital garden

yeah because making a fuss right now cant do anything. if sopa or pipa went through, then he could make tons of fuss. i really dont understand how you could think that a 53 year old bitter(at the internet) devout jehova's witness(therefor hyper conservative) prince could under any stretch of imagination, be against internet censorship

I tend to look for the good in people, and do not see Prince as bitter, or as an age; that's just me though.

But, the plot thickens....Universal gets hit, as does the recording association. Prince's The Rainbow Children is so relevant in this time.

As I previously suggested, in one way or another, he will have to express his views and choose sides; he cannot support Mendacity & the youth at the same time.

The youth are the 1's who have supported him all along.

Now is the time for Prince to release new music; not re-releases, new music about the times...

[Edited 1/19/12 15:24pm]

[Edited 1/19/12 15:26pm]

Praxis said:

Pomade said:

Praxis said:

Well, Prince is well aware his music, especially, live...is all over the web; he could be making a huge fuss, but he's actually quiet if U think about it. I don't think he's that insensitive as some may think...in relationship to the digital garden

What do you mean? He's steadily removing videos from YouTube or having audio stripped from videos. That's a fuss.

I guess he used to.

From what he's said in the past, I would think he'd be on the fence about it.

Of course, "The internet is dead" so I doubt he gives a shit either way?

tritoncin said:

MIRvmn said:

When I first heard about sopa and pipa then Prince came up on my mind cuz Im pretty sure that hes suporting it. unfotunantly I dont think sopa and pipa will be reality, its an insane law

what fantasy land are you living in? does the patriot act come to mind at all?

Pomade said:

Praxis said:

Well, Prince is well aware his music, especially, live...is all over the web; he could be making a huge fuss, but he's actually quiet if U think about it. I don't think he's that insensitive as some may think...in relationship to the digital garden

What do you mean? He's steadily removing videos from YouTube or having audio stripped from videos. That's a fuss.

but that is what it all comes down to isn't it? how the law balances copyright acknowledgement and freedom of creativity.

perhaps the next move for Prince is to co-release albums with fans...whereby he is the initial distributer, and fans the next "man," who get a cut out of all sales

it's only fair right?

uuhson said: