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Thread started 01/01/12 12:55am

DJFreelan

The TRUE Hardest Working Man In Show Business?

I LOVE James Brown. Let me start off by saying that. James Brown is, was, and always will be one of the greatest entertainers to have ever lived in this, or any other, generation. I was so saddened by the news of the death of James Brown, and he is one of the few musicians who had me in tears when his death was announced. And James Brown has the reputation of being the hardest working man in show business. And, he was indeed a hard working son of a bitch, but...

...is it kind of overkill? Could it possibly be a true fact that Prince is indeed the hardest working man in show business?

I'm just curious about the opinions of those here on the org.

"I never want to stop singing this song!" Prince in Montreal, 12/2/11, just before performing Purple Rain
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Reply #1 posted 01/01/12 1:14am

Soulstar77A

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"ohYeeeeeah" said: I'm a massive Bowie fan. Even on Scary Monsters, I always skip Fame ...
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Reply #2 posted 01/01/12 2:02am

jonylawson

hardest working? well its fairly obvious P's work ethic outstrips most artists if not all.

qulaity over quntity is however another debate

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Reply #3 posted 01/01/12 2:04am

DJFreelan

jonylawson said:

qulaity over quntity is however another debate

See, I agree with this point, too.

When you release and release and release and release, you're going to have a LOT of filler.

"I never want to stop singing this song!" Prince in Montreal, 12/2/11, just before performing Purple Rain
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Reply #4 posted 01/01/12 2:17am

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DJFreelan said:



jonylawson said:


qulaity over quntity is however another debate



See, I agree with this point, too.


When you release and release and release and release, you're going to have a LOT of filler.



All artists have filler. Prince has more than most artists, but he also has more 'killer'.
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Reply #5 posted 01/01/12 3:14am

DJFreelan

CrabalockerFishwife said:

DJFreelan said:

See, I agree with this point, too.

When you release and release and release and release, you're going to have a LOT of filler.

All artists have filler. Prince has more than most artists, but he also has more 'killer'.

Prince definitely has more good than bad, without a doubt, but I can see where jonylawson when he says quality over quantity.

"I never want to stop singing this song!" Prince in Montreal, 12/2/11, just before performing Purple Rain
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Reply #6 posted 01/01/12 5:53am

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I love JB´s music and dont know much about his history, but Prince in the 80s - 90s was extremely workaholic. He did his albums, produced other artists, recorded tons of outtakes and in several cases, arranging and playing several instruments. Not to mention rehearsals, concert planning, choreography, etc.

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Reply #7 posted 01/01/12 8:50am

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Eh, I think James earned and should keep that title. Look at his output at his mid-late '60s peak. He was releasing tons of albums/singles and constantly playing live shows. He was also doing something similar to what Prince ended up doing by writing/producing lots of material for other artists.

I think an argument could probably be made that Prince looked at what James did and to a large degree emulated it. So, even if Prince was a harder worker James was the one that laid the blueprint down.

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Reply #8 posted 01/01/12 8:59am

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jonylawson said:

hardest working? well its fairly obvious P's work ethic outstrips most artists if not all.

qulaity over quntity is however another debate

yeah, well not everything JB or Miles released was a gem either

"Climb in my fur."
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Reply #9 posted 01/01/12 9:21am

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When JB was alive and producing he very well may have been; I would say presently, Prince most-certainly is with writing, producing, distributing, introducing talent, etc. all on his own...

"Its hard to be humble when you're as pretty as I am" ~ Muhammad Ali
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Reply #10 posted 01/01/12 9:21am

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No.

If prince.org were to be made idiot proof, someone would just invent a better idiot.
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Reply #11 posted 01/01/12 9:44am

smoothcriminal
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Don't you dare diss James like that.

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Reply #12 posted 01/01/12 10:05am

nursev

No...imma let James keep this one.
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Reply #13 posted 01/01/12 2:17pm

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rialb said:

So, even if Prince was a harder worker James was the one that laid the blueprint down.

- Interesting. It makes sense. I still cant imagine someone working harder than Prince in the 80s and part of the 90s.

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Reply #14 posted 01/01/12 2:53pm

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GustavoRibas said:

rialb said:

So, even if Prince was a harder worker James was the one that laid the blueprint down.

- Interesting. It makes sense. I still cant imagine someone working harder than Prince in the 80s and part of the 90s.

James Brown. lol

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Reply #15 posted 01/01/12 2:56pm

remko

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Not nowadays anyway

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Reply #16 posted 01/01/12 3:14pm

rdhull

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smoothcriminal12 said:

GustavoRibas said:

- Interesting. It makes sense. I still cant imagine someone working harder than Prince in the 80s and part of the 90s.

James Brown. lol

James was working hard at fleeing from the cops.

"Climb in my fur."
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Reply #17 posted 01/01/12 3:20pm

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rdhull said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

James Brown. lol

James was working hard at fleeing from the cops.

Still working. lol

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Reply #18 posted 01/01/12 3:22pm

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smoothcriminal12 said:

rdhull said:

James was working hard at fleeing from the cops.

Still working. lol

at hitting that pipe..

I know..still working

"Climb in my fur."
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Reply #19 posted 01/01/12 3:28pm

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You mention that title anywhere and people automatically think of James. People generally don't know what Prince accomplished, all the songs he's recorded himself, the ones he's written for others. It would be awesome to assemble the entirety into a box set, remastered albums with outtakes, finally release it all. It seems ever unlikely at this point.
"So fierce U look 2night, the brightest star pales 2 Ur sex..."
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Reply #20 posted 01/01/12 7:51pm

DJFreelan

kenkamken said:

You mention that title anywhere and people automatically think of James. People generally don't know what Prince accomplished, all the songs he's recorded himself, the ones he's written for others. It would be awesome to assemble the entirety into a box set, remastered albums with outtakes, finally release it all. It seems ever unlikely at this point.

This one I can actually seriously agree with. Kind of like when people say the King, people automatically think of Elvis. (Which, just for the record, Elvis is the king, but that's the best analogy I can think of.)

But, I also agree with everybody who has said that you'd be hard pressed to find a person who worked harder than Prince, especially in the 80's and damn near through most of the 90's.

Somebody insinuated I was blasting James. Hell, no. I said in my first post that I LOVE James Brown, and God only knows I wish I had a quarter of the dance rhythm that old boy had--but, for some reason, in my mind, I don't know why...I just find Prince to be the true hardest working man in show business. Absolutely no disrespect to James, because he's one of the best ever, but that's just the way I feel.

"I never want to stop singing this song!" Prince in Montreal, 12/2/11, just before performing Purple Rain
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Reply #21 posted 01/02/12 4:33am

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DJFreelan said:

I just find Prince to be the true hardest working man in show business. Absolutely no disrespect to James, because he's one of the best ever, but that's just the way I feel.

- Yeah, that´s what I think also. Let´s not forget that Prince wasnt only prolific on songwriting, but he used to produce, arrange and perform most instruments on his albums and his protegees. Not to mention other stuff not necessarily related to music, such as acting/directing, planning his tours/dancing, etc.

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Reply #22 posted 01/02/12 5:53am

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Many can say that a lot of artists adopted a lot pf JB's style. As JB was the hardest working man of his time, basically releasing new material almost every other week, as well as creating new dance moves.

By the time you bought one of JB's new singles, abouf a week later, he was releasing a another one, and you were lucky if it didn't sell out at the record store before you got there. Elvis learned a lot of his dance moves from JB and would frequent Black clubs because he admired to learn the soul and gospel sounds of black artists, and asked JB about how he
can learn that sound/style. JB revealed that in one of his last books. Anyone can see that JB was an infliuence in Prince's dance moves and music, as he often has played JB covers and you can hear JB's sound in some of his songs, not to mention having one of JB's right~hand musicians, Maceo, often on stage eith him. I believe JB, Prince (<~still is)and Elvis were all hardworking musicians/ artists of their times.
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Reply #23 posted 01/02/12 8:07am

rdhull

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GustavoRibas said:

DJFreelan said:

I just find Prince to be the true hardest working man in show business. Absolutely no disrespect to James, because he's one of the best ever, but that's just the way I feel.

- Yeah, that´s what I think also. Let´s not forget that Prince wasnt only prolific on songwriting, but he used to produce, arrange and perform most instruments on his albums and his protegees. Not to mention other stuff not necessarily related to music, such as acting/directing, planning his tours/dancing, etc.

This is true. James also took a lot of credit from his bandmates (and ppl dont try and bring up Prince stealing ideas and claiming them as his own from bandmates because a song or two here and there doesnt equal to that).

"Climb in my fur."
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Reply #24 posted 01/02/12 10:01am

jaawwnn

In all likelihood the answer is Mark E Smith or Robert Pollard. Although that's probably not considered show biz.....


Actually, if thats the case I wish prince would get out of the Show Biz game.
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Reply #25 posted 01/02/12 11:41am

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JB sometimes did hundreds of gigs per year, not to mention at one point in his career he was putting out tens of singles a year off the back of multiple albums.

Shit, can't believe i'm going to say it but somebody like Rihanna is far busier than Prince.

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Reply #26 posted 01/02/12 2:25pm

DJFreelan

Well, yes, Dez wrote Do Me, Baby. And yes, Morris Day come up with most of Partyup (but, then again, this is what created The Time, in a way, so...that's kind of pointless to even think that one.)

And yeah, James has released more music than Prince. But, I honestly think that's because Warner Brothers wouldn't let Prince release all he wanted to release. If Warner would've given Prince free reign for all he wanted to release, I'd say 60% or more of our favorite bootlegs wouldn't be just our favorite bootlegs, if you know what I mean.

"I never want to stop singing this song!" Prince in Montreal, 12/2/11, just before performing Purple Rain
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Reply #27 posted 01/02/12 2:33pm

Pomade

This guy.

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Reply #28 posted 01/02/12 2:37pm

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Pomade said:

This guy.

[Edited 1/2/12 14:38pm]

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Reply #29 posted 01/02/12 2:42pm

Pomade

smoothcriminal12 said:

Pomade said:

This guy.

[Edited 1/2/12 14:38pm]

Whenever a new show surfaces on radio or tv, it seems like he's being named its host or producer.

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