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P's State of Mind in "All the Critics..." Based on a similar thread regarding "1999" I've wondered about Prince's state of mind as reflected in "All the Critics Love U In New York;" here’s the mental image I have:
Prince is this young cat full of piss & vinegar, not yet a star but getting publicity and burning up with potential. A few years before he walked away from a near guaranteed mainstream R&B career to adopt a look and sound that definitely doesn’t appeal to Middle America. Two albums later sales are down, the record company is concerned, two core band members have quit, his first movie attempt has been abandoned and he’s suffered through two disastrous opening gigs for the Rolling Stones, J. Geils and George Thoroughgood.
But here it is late 1981 or early 1982 and he's limo riding late night through NYC after a smokin’ hot gig in some hip underground nightclub. Now he’s vindicated – in his mind at least, all the radical changes and questionable decisions have paid off, and dude is cocky as hell thanks to the support of the New York music scene. The song has a stream of conscious vibe, almost a journal entry glowing with his current success:
You can dance, if you want to You don’t have to keep the beat, they'll still think it's neat You can wear what you want to, it doesn't matter
And off he goes into the night still hyped up from the show and looking for something to get into in the big city: Body don’t wanna quit, gotta get another hit… | |
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appeasement perhaps?
just joshin'
No justice, No peace | |
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Don't have a clue what he was thinking, but it's one of my top 5 favorite Prince songs. For an 80s song, it doesn't seem to get a whole lot of love around here. | |
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Pith. | |
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???????????????
what site do you read
all the critics love u in newyork??
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you mean it hasnt had alot of threads dedicated to it in the 3 months you have been a member?
next you'll be saying
"yeah i love parade but it doesnt get alot of love on here"
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Got a few mentions on this worst 80s songs thread:
http://prince.org/msg/7/362495
Had heard a few people mention it as one of his weakest 80s songs.
Maybe it's had appreciation threads before, but I've never seen one since I've been on the site.
I was expecting you to reply to my comment, btw..
From "Your Top10 WORST Prince songs of the 80's"
These 4 were not the only mentions. [Edited 1/10/12 13:33pm] | |
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I've been here longer than 3 months, just not under this name. I have only been here since 2008, though, so... [Edited 1/10/12 13:30pm] | |
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I've always thought he was taking a piss @ The Rolling Stones crowd with the "Look out all you hippies".
If a made a playlist that centered around a "Fuck You-attitude" theme, this would def be the 1st on the list. | |
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exactly
good point-he was a bad muthafucka then | |
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I always thought the song was sarcastic or tongue-in-cheek, or something like that.. | |
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It is a sarcastic song, but that line seemed like a verbal middle finger to those RS crowd to me.
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He mentions hippies a lot during the 1999 era. Just saying. | |
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Nah he was taking aim at (then hipster) critcs who raved about certain artists/movements. "Climb in my fur." | |
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Could be.
But he also said "it ain't about the trippin, but the sexuality". It seemed like he was throwing shade at them(the RS crowd) for jeering at him and calling him "faggot".
Its def open for interpretation. | |
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Wow -- didn't know there was so much hate for this little song; certainly not a Top 40 single candidate but it seemed to work within the vibe of the album (especially following Lady Cab Driver)
I always thought the song was an "F.U." to someone, and I can definitely see how much of it could have been directed at the Stones crowd. I gotta think that experience jacked him up for years... | |
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Nobody hates the song, I just made all that up because I'm a dumb newbie.
I always thought it was a big 'F.U.' as well.. and the song is seriously one of my all time favorites.
However, I hate when he plays it live and changes the name from 'New York' to wherever he's playing.
typo [Edited 1/10/12 14:20pm] | |
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word,,,but I thuoght he did an interview where he talked about Critic and stated as such regarding them clapping to whatever you did as an artist..might have been an exerprt or from that 1985 Prince Talks RS interview
either way...this song is theeee jam..must be played LOUD when it's plaid "Climb in my fur." | |
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who the fuck is "hatin"?? | |
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One of the best songs on 1999. I always took it as a sarcastic answer to his critics. | |
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Timmy84 said: One of the best songs on 1999. I always took it as a sarcastic answer to his critics. I never looked at it that way, but it makes sense. | |
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Ah, but Prince talks shit. In other news, he was also once on stage with MJ and James Brown . RIP | |
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^
yeah me too, and 1999 is just fantastic. All of it... brilliant.
However I don't know why he needed to write a song about his critics..
Prince 4Ever. | |
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You liar! "Climb in my fur." | |
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ALL I know is that this song SLAMMMMSSSS LIVE!
I can watch the Montreux performance of this song; ALL day & night and my body don't want quit, I got to get another hit! Haha
The way he interacts with the audience, guitar, and band members!
"In the balcony y'all know about that quake? If you do, JUMP UP & DOWN!"
Hell, even Renato Nato was jumping up and down and you never see that EVER.
Haha, It's one of my favorites from '1999'. It's funky, and very Prince. Something I think should be played more often in his set list. He could just change around the city wherever he is, like he has been doing. It's one of my favorite things to see him do live. It's Button Therapy, Baby! | |
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That performance is what made me fall in love with the song. Awesome song and performance. Also I like how he changes the city to where ever he is playing. | |
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I'm saying right? It's funky right? Just too good! It's Button Therapy, Baby! | |
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Telling hippies they ain't as sharp as him and later telling them to take a bath. Saying it's time for jazz to die. Sounds like his head was in a good place to me. Leaving behind the 60s and earlier eras and moving forward with the ultra modern, cold, and futuristic 1980s at the time. Wish his mind had stayed there. . . . [Edited 1/11/12 21:00pm] Andy is a four letter word. | |
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Ironic you would mention that... but I guess minds do change. | |
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Gotta say Amen to that one...but when has anyone's head (in any sense of the word!) remained where other people think it should be? "Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato
https://youtu.be/CVwv9LZMah0 | |
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