Remember when stevie hit the 80's and it was like something overnight happened to him?

(please-im not knocking stevie-utter genius)

James Brown-same thing

But Prince never lost it-sure in 1998 i was preparing for thr worst but he came over and through it.

Prince will never capture the genius of his early work but hell if somebody had told me a man in his 40's and 50's would still be dropping albums as diverse and experimental and mainstream and artisitic as

TRC

3121

LOTUSFLOWER

EXPECTATION

MUSICOLOGY

and At the age of 53 still be universally classified as THE best live act in the world(still) i wouldnt have believed em

also the way his contemparies talk about him-as vital

phew

(Regarding stevie-i still believe the the MOTR gods possesed him,sucked his funk and creative juices out and channelled woman in red through him)

Jony never stops finding ways to top himself. However I do agree with Kanga.

I still prefer Prince music from the Warner Bros. years 1978 to 1995.

I don't like his latest Extralovable song.. lame, boring.

But keep preaching jony--- however, I am one of the more critical fans around here.

It's been said, but people are used to Prince's greatness. They take it for granted.

People forget that the 80's are over and Prince makes music he wants to without live up to the fan's expectations.

He's far from lost it.

i love prince.

but would have 2 say that bruce springsteens last few Lps have bn better than his.

Some would argue differently.

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I don't think Prince has lost it either, sometimes he faded into things not understood by everyone, but that ends up working from him I think?

In time, those things will be more appreciated, IMO.

smoothcriminal12 said:

Some would argue differently.

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how??

if they did then thats some ignorant non musical knowledge played out bitch HOT STINKING DISEASED BULLSHIT

just saying

NeonCraxx said:

People forget that the 80's are over and Prince makes music he wants to without live up to the fan's expectations.

He's far from lost it.

hear hear

there is nothing more insidous than a "fan base"

i like the fact that prince does not give a flying fuck about his fanbase

(cept when he needed money with the quickness in 2002)

jonylawson said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

Some would argue differently.

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how??

if they did then thats some ignorant non musical knowledge played out bitch HOT STINKING DISEASED BULLSHIT

just saying

They would just think that Prince fell off after the 80's. Simple as that.

If the worst thing Prince ever does to gain the scorn of the mainstream is release music they don't approve of then that's fine. He's not pissing on and little girls, getting dragged into court on molestation charges, racking up a portfolio of skeezy looking mugshots or married to a Kardashian!

smoothcriminal12 said:

jonylawson said:

how??

if they did then thats some ignorant non musical knowledge played out bitch HOT STINKING DISEASED BULLSHIT

just saying

They would just think that Prince fell off after the 80's. Simple as that.

yeah your right.......

or maybe your wrong

or mebbes we are a hybrid of right and wrong

a bit like batman

Prince hasn't interested me since 2009 when he released the great Lotusflow3r and the Montreux and Conga Room shows happened. Since then his shows have rubbed me the wrong way, feeling incredibly stale and boring (and I did see him live in 2009 and was pretty bored by his show at Paisley Park that year, as much as I hoped to enjoy it).

There are still very cool moments like Melkweg (which is why I still come on here), but I don't feel the way I used to. I won't say he's lost it but he's definitely lost me as a hardcore obsessed fan who thinks his next release could be amazing.

Gohi said:

Prince hasn't interested me since 2009 when he released the great Lotusflow3r and the Montreux and Conga Room shows happened. Since then his shows have rubbed me the wrong way, feeling incredibly stale and boring (and I did see him live in 2009 and was pretty bored by his show at Paisley Park that year, as much as I hoped to enjoy it).

There are still very cool moments like Melkweg (which is why I still come on here), but I don't feel the way I used to. I won't say he's lost it but he's definitely lost me as a hardcore obsessed fan who thinks his next release could be amazing.

erm.......

well im 38 and long since stopped being a "hardcore obsessive"

thats a good thing...right??

I don't think Prince has "lost it", either. If he has, I don't think it matters, either.

Anyone expecting him to be as good a songwriter at the age of 53 as he was at 28 is fooling themselves.

I'm fine with the way Prince is now.

Even his lesser material has a few good to great songs.

He's still the best live act in the world. There's not anyone around who even comes close.

jonylawson said:

Gohi said:

Prince hasn't interested me since 2009 when he released the great Lotusflow3r and the Montreux and Conga Room shows happened. Since then his shows have rubbed me the wrong way, feeling incredibly stale and boring (and I did see him live in 2009 and was pretty bored by his show at Paisley Park that year, as much as I hoped to enjoy it).

There are still very cool moments like Melkweg (which is why I still come on here), but I don't feel the way I used to. I won't say he's lost it but he's definitely lost me as a hardcore obsessed fan who thinks his next release could be amazing.

erm.......

well im 38 and long since stopped being a "hardcore obsessive"

thats a good thing...right??

Probably. I guess my point was that he definitely "lost it" for me a few years back but that may have more to do with me than him. Shrug.

Paris9748430 said:

I don't think Prince has "lost it", either. If he has, I don't think it matters, either.

Anyone expecting him to be as good a songwriter at the age of 53 as he was at 28 is fooling themselves.

I'm fine with the way Prince is now.

Even his lesser material has a few good to great songs.

He's still the best live act in the world. There's not anyone around who even comes close.

I actually think he's a better songwriter now than in the 80s, and a better musician, and vocalist. It's just that the music he's making now isn't as exciting as it used to be, but the man is in his 50s.

And Prince is still selling very well. I think 'Musicology' and '3121' both sold over a million worldwide, and 'Lotusflow3r' did over 500,000 in the US alone - impressive for a Target exclusive (not sure if web sales were counted); so obviously the general public doesn't think Prince lost it. With proper distribution and promotion, his albums would have probably sold a lot better.

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CrabalockerFishwife said:

Paris9748430 said:

I don't think Prince has "lost it", either. If he has, I don't think it matters, either.

Anyone expecting him to be as good a songwriter at the age of 53 as he was at 28 is fooling themselves.

I'm fine with the way Prince is now.

Even his lesser material has a few good to great songs.

He's still the best live act in the world. There's not anyone around who even comes close.

I actually think he's a better songwriter now than in the 80s, and a better musician, and vocalist. It's just that the music he's making now isn't as exciting as it used to be, but the man is in his 50s.

And Prince is still selling very well. I think 'Musicology' and '3121' both sold over a million worldwide, and 'Lotusflow3r' did over 500,000 in the US alone - impressive for a Target exclusive (not sure if web sales were counted); so obviously the general public doesn't think Prince lost it. With proper distribution and promotion, his albums would have probably sold a lot better.

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I'm not sure about him being a better songwriter now, or vocalist, but he's never been a better guitarist than he is now.

He absolutely SLAYS these days!

Completely jawdropping!

You'll get no argument out of me on this topic jonylawson, P still puts out great music with thought provoking lyrics ( at times ).

It ( some of P's music ) may not be a HIT according to music industry standards but, that's not why I'm a fan of his music or any other artist. I ain't a teenager anymore followin' trends and what's HOT.

What can I say? I think I love his recent output just as much as the classic stuff, and I loved it all along the ride since I discovered his music in 1989.

Sure, after 21 years, a new Prince album isn't the shock it used 2 b: I know what 2 expect. But in the end I end-up listening 2 his new albums a lot, and loving them deeply. So yeah, I think he's doing fine and, indeed, better than most artists at his age!

I never understood all the hate towards his post-WB music: 2 me everything that I loved back then is still here 2day. Matured and somehow different, sure, but the spirit's all the same 2 me...

databank said:

What can I say? I think I love his recent output just as much as the classic stuff, and I loved it all along the ride since I discovered his music in 1989.

Sure, after 21 years, a new Prince album isn't the shock it used 2 b: I know what 2 expect. But in the end I end-up listening 2 his new albums a lot, and loving them deeply. So yeah, I think he's doing fine and, indeed, better than most artists at his age!

I never understood all the hate towards his post-WB music: 2 me everything that I loved back then is still here 2day. Matured and somehow different, sure, but the spirit's all the same 2 me...

This!

To me, when it comes to his studio output, he is the George Lucas of music.

databank said:

What can I say? I think I love his recent output just as much as the classic stuff, and I loved it all along the ride since I discovered his music in 1989.

Sure, after 21 years, a new Prince album isn't the shock it used 2 b: I know what 2 expect. But in the end I end-up listening 2 his new albums a lot, and loving them deeply. So yeah, I think he's doing fine and, indeed, better than most artists at his age!

I never understood all the hate towards his post-WB music: 2 me everything that I loved back then is still here 2day. Matured and somehow different, sure, but the spirit's all the same 2 me...

I couldn't agree more. 'Lotusflower' is one of his best albums ever.

I am glad he is still relevant, especially live.

I love albums like Lotus Flow3r and TRC, which have a more ´artsy´ vibe. On the other hand, sometimes I think Prince should deliver better albums for non-fans (like the newspaper giveaway of Planet Earth). And, at 53, he sometimes writes some silly stuff for his age.

But hey, that´s our loved Prince, the gemini.

Giovanni777 said:

databank said:

What can I say? I think I love his recent output just as much as the classic stuff, and I loved it all along the ride since I discovered his music in 1989.

Sure, after 21 years, a new Prince album isn't the shock it used 2 b: I know what 2 expect. But in the end I end-up listening 2 his new albums a lot, and loving them deeply. So yeah, I think he's doing fine and, indeed, better than most artists at his age!

I never understood all the hate towards his post-WB music: 2 me everything that I loved back then is still here 2day. Matured and somehow different, sure, but the spirit's all the same 2 me...

I couldn't agree more. 'Lotusflower' is one of his best albums ever.

I'm Saying!!! Just listen to 'Boom' 'Colonized Mind' 'Wall Of Berlin' If he made an album of three songs like these..it would be the best of all time! Lotusflow3r is just simply perfect!

I love ´Lotus Flower´ too.