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Thread started 01/01/12 11:46am

jonylawson

Prince,unlike his contemparies has stll never "lost it"

Remember when stevie hit the 80's and it was like something overnight happened to him?

(please-im not knocking stevie-utter genius)

James Brown-same thing

But Prince never lost it-sure in 1998 i was preparing for thr worst but he came over and through it.

Prince will never capture the genius of his early work but hell if somebody had told me a man in his 40's and 50's would still be dropping albums as diverse and experimental and mainstream and artisitic as

TRC

3121

LOTUSFLOWER

EXPECTATION

MUSICOLOGY

and At the age of 53 still be universally classified as THE best live act in the world(still) i wouldnt have believed em

also the way his contemparies talk about him-as vital

phew

(Regarding stevie-i still believe the the MOTR gods possesed him,sucked his funk and creative juices out and channelled woman in red through him)

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Reply #1 posted 01/01/12 11:56am

jpnyc

lol

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Reply #2 posted 01/01/12 12:57pm

kangafunk

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Hear hear. People are far too hard on him at times. People expect him to be as prolific as he was in the 80's, but realistically, it's impossible. We should be thankful for the fact he's still relevant, not many artists can say that after 40 years in the business.
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Reply #3 posted 01/01/12 1:24pm

ManlyMoose

lol Jony never stops finding ways to top himself. However I do agree with Kanga.

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Reply #4 posted 01/01/12 1:29pm

thedance

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I still prefer Prince music from the Warner Bros. years 1978 to 1995.

I don't like his latest Extralovable song.. lame, boring.

But keep preaching jony--- however, I am one of the more critical fans around here. wink

Prince 4Ever. heart
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Reply #5 posted 01/01/12 2:29pm

skywalker

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It's been said, but people are used to Prince's greatness. They take it for granted.

"New Power slide...."
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Reply #6 posted 01/01/12 2:39pm

NeonCraxx

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People forget that the 80's are over and Prince makes music he wants to without live up to the fan's expectations.

He's far from lost it.

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Reply #7 posted 01/01/12 2:45pm

millwall

i love prince.

but would have 2 say that bruce springsteens last few Lps have bn better than his.

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Reply #8 posted 01/01/12 3:10pm

smoothcriminal
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Some would argue differently.

[Edited 1/1/12 15:10pm]

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Reply #9 posted 01/01/12 3:39pm

EyeJester7

I don't think Prince has lost it either, sometimes he faded into things not understood by everyone, but that ends up working from him I think?

In time, those things will be more appreciated, IMO.

It's Button Therapy, Baby!
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Reply #10 posted 01/01/12 4:06pm

jonylawson

smoothcriminal12 said:

Some would argue differently.

[Edited 1/1/12 15:10pm]

how??

if they did then thats some ignorant non musical knowledge played out bitch HOT STINKING DISEASED BULLSHIT

just saying

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Reply #11 posted 01/01/12 4:08pm

jonylawson

NeonCraxx said:

People forget that the 80's are over and Prince makes music he wants to without live up to the fan's expectations.

He's far from lost it.

hear hear

there is nothing more insidous than a "fan base"

i like the fact that prince does not give a flying fuck about his fanbase

(cept when he needed money with the quickness in 2002)

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Reply #12 posted 01/01/12 4:16pm

smoothcriminal
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jonylawson said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

Some would argue differently.

[Edited 1/1/12 15:10pm]

how??

if they did then thats some ignorant non musical knowledge played out bitch HOT STINKING DISEASED BULLSHIT

just saying

eek

They would just think that Prince fell off after the 80's. Simple as that.

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Reply #13 posted 01/01/12 4:27pm

HonestMan13

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If the worst thing Prince ever does to gain the scorn of the mainstream is release music they don't approve of then that's fine. He's not pissing on and little girls, getting dragged into court on molestation charges, racking up a portfolio of skeezy looking mugshots or married to a Kardashian!

When eye go 2 a Prince concert or related event it's all heart up in the house but when eye log onto this site and the miasma of bitchiness is completely overwhelming!
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Reply #14 posted 01/01/12 4:41pm

jonylawson

smoothcriminal12 said:

jonylawson said:

how??

if they did then thats some ignorant non musical knowledge played out bitch HOT STINKING DISEASED BULLSHIT

just saying

eek

They would just think that Prince fell off after the 80's. Simple as that.

yeah your right.......

or maybe your wrong

or mebbes we are a hybrid of right and wrong

a bit like batman

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Reply #15 posted 01/01/12 4:53pm

Gohi

Prince hasn't interested me since 2009 when he released the great Lotusflow3r and the Montreux and Conga Room shows happened. Since then his shows have rubbed me the wrong way, feeling incredibly stale and boring (and I did see him live in 2009 and was pretty bored by his show at Paisley Park that year, as much as I hoped to enjoy it).

There are still very cool moments like Melkweg (which is why I still come on here), but I don't feel the way I used to. I won't say he's lost it but he's definitely lost me as a hardcore obsessed fan who thinks his next release could be amazing.

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Reply #16 posted 01/01/12 5:16pm

jonylawson

Gohi said:

Prince hasn't interested me since 2009 when he released the great Lotusflow3r and the Montreux and Conga Room shows happened. Since then his shows have rubbed me the wrong way, feeling incredibly stale and boring (and I did see him live in 2009 and was pretty bored by his show at Paisley Park that year, as much as I hoped to enjoy it).

There are still very cool moments like Melkweg (which is why I still come on here), but I don't feel the way I used to. I won't say he's lost it but he's definitely lost me as a hardcore obsessed fan who thinks his next release could be amazing.

erm.......

well im 38 and long since stopped being a "hardcore obsessive"

thats a good thing...right??

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Reply #17 posted 01/01/12 5:21pm

Paris9748430

I don't think Prince has "lost it", either. If he has, I don't think it matters, either.

Anyone expecting him to be as good a songwriter at the age of 53 as he was at 28 is fooling themselves.

I'm fine with the way Prince is now.

Even his lesser material has a few good to great songs.

He's still the best live act in the world. There's not anyone around who even comes close.

JERKIN' EVERYTHING IN SIGHT!!!!!
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Reply #18 posted 01/01/12 5:38pm

Gohi

jonylawson said:

Gohi said:

Prince hasn't interested me since 2009 when he released the great Lotusflow3r and the Montreux and Conga Room shows happened. Since then his shows have rubbed me the wrong way, feeling incredibly stale and boring (and I did see him live in 2009 and was pretty bored by his show at Paisley Park that year, as much as I hoped to enjoy it).

There are still very cool moments like Melkweg (which is why I still come on here), but I don't feel the way I used to. I won't say he's lost it but he's definitely lost me as a hardcore obsessed fan who thinks his next release could be amazing.

erm.......

well im 38 and long since stopped being a "hardcore obsessive"

thats a good thing...right??

Probably. I guess my point was that he definitely "lost it" for me a few years back but that may have more to do with me than him. Shrug.

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Reply #19 posted 01/01/12 6:04pm

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Paris9748430 said:

I don't think Prince has "lost it", either. If he has, I don't think it matters, either.

Anyone expecting him to be as good a songwriter at the age of 53 as he was at 28 is fooling themselves.

I'm fine with the way Prince is now.

Even his lesser material has a few good to great songs.

He's still the best live act in the world. There's not anyone around who even comes close.

I actually think he's a better songwriter now than in the 80s, and a better musician, and vocalist. It's just that the music he's making now isn't as exciting as it used to be, but the man is in his 50s.

And Prince is still selling very well. I think 'Musicology' and '3121' both sold over a million worldwide, and 'Lotusflow3r' did over 500,000 in the US alone - impressive for a Target exclusive (not sure if web sales were counted); so obviously the general public doesn't think Prince lost it. With proper distribution and promotion, his albums would have probably sold a lot better.

[Edited 1/1/12 18:04pm]

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Reply #20 posted 01/01/12 6:31pm

Paris9748430

CrabalockerFishwife said:

Paris9748430 said:

I don't think Prince has "lost it", either. If he has, I don't think it matters, either.

Anyone expecting him to be as good a songwriter at the age of 53 as he was at 28 is fooling themselves.

I'm fine with the way Prince is now.

Even his lesser material has a few good to great songs.

He's still the best live act in the world. There's not anyone around who even comes close.

I actually think he's a better songwriter now than in the 80s, and a better musician, and vocalist. It's just that the music he's making now isn't as exciting as it used to be, but the man is in his 50s.

And Prince is still selling very well. I think 'Musicology' and '3121' both sold over a million worldwide, and 'Lotusflow3r' did over 500,000 in the US alone - impressive for a Target exclusive (not sure if web sales were counted); so obviously the general public doesn't think Prince lost it. With proper distribution and promotion, his albums would have probably sold a lot better.

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I'm not sure about him being a better songwriter now, or vocalist, but he's never been a better guitarist than he is now.

He absolutely SLAYS these days!

Completely jawdropping!

JERKIN' EVERYTHING IN SIGHT!!!!!
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Reply #21 posted 01/05/12 8:45am

PurpleLove7

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You'll get no argument out of me on this topic jonylawson, P still puts out great music with thought provoking lyrics ( at times ).

It ( some of P's music ) may not be a HIT according to music industry standards but, that's not why I'm a fan of his music or any other artist. I ain't a teenager anymore followin' trends and what's HOT.

Peace ... & Stay Funky ...

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Reply #22 posted 01/06/12 6:17am

databank

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What can I say? I think I love his recent output just as much as the classic stuff, and I loved it all along the ride since I discovered his music in 1989.

Sure, after 21 years, a new Prince album isn't the shock it used 2 b: I know what 2 expect. But in the end I end-up listening 2 his new albums a lot, and loving them deeply. So yeah, I think he's doing fine and, indeed, better than most artists at his age!

I never understood all the hate towards his post-WB music: 2 me everything that I loved back then is still here 2day. Matured and somehow different, sure, but the spirit's all the same 2 me...

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Reply #23 posted 01/06/12 6:24am

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databank said:

What can I say? I think I love his recent output just as much as the classic stuff, and I loved it all along the ride since I discovered his music in 1989.

Sure, after 21 years, a new Prince album isn't the shock it used 2 b: I know what 2 expect. But in the end I end-up listening 2 his new albums a lot, and loving them deeply. So yeah, I think he's doing fine and, indeed, better than most artists at his age!

I never understood all the hate towards his post-WB music: 2 me everything that I loved back then is still here 2day. Matured and somehow different, sure, but the spirit's all the same 2 me...

This!

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Reply #24 posted 01/06/12 6:32am

V10LETBLUES

To me, when it comes to his studio output, he is the George Lucas of music.

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Reply #25 posted 01/06/12 6:34am

Giovanni777

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databank said:

What can I say? I think I love his recent output just as much as the classic stuff, and I loved it all along the ride since I discovered his music in 1989.

Sure, after 21 years, a new Prince album isn't the shock it used 2 b: I know what 2 expect. But in the end I end-up listening 2 his new albums a lot, and loving them deeply. So yeah, I think he's doing fine and, indeed, better than most artists at his age!

I never understood all the hate towards his post-WB music: 2 me everything that I loved back then is still here 2day. Matured and somehow different, sure, but the spirit's all the same 2 me...

I couldn't agree more. 'Lotusflower' is one of his best albums ever.

"He's a musician's musician..."
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Reply #26 posted 01/06/12 6:34am

GustavoRibas

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I am glad he is still relevant, especially live.

I love albums like Lotus Flow3r and TRC, which have a more ´artsy´ vibe. On the other hand, sometimes I think Prince should deliver better albums for non-fans (like the newspaper giveaway of Planet Earth). And, at 53, he sometimes writes some silly stuff for his age.

But hey, that´s our loved Prince, the gemini.

Peace
Gustavo Ribas
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Reply #27 posted 01/06/12 11:18am

EyeJester7

Giovanni777 said:

databank said:

What can I say? I think I love his recent output just as much as the classic stuff, and I loved it all along the ride since I discovered his music in 1989.

Sure, after 21 years, a new Prince album isn't the shock it used 2 b: I know what 2 expect. But in the end I end-up listening 2 his new albums a lot, and loving them deeply. So yeah, I think he's doing fine and, indeed, better than most artists at his age!

I never understood all the hate towards his post-WB music: 2 me everything that I loved back then is still here 2day. Matured and somehow different, sure, but the spirit's all the same 2 me...

I couldn't agree more. 'Lotusflower' is one of his best albums ever.

I'm Saying!!! Just listen to 'Boom' 'Colonized Mind' 'Wall Of Berlin' If he made an album of three songs like these..it would be the best of all time! smile Lotusflow3r is just simply perfect!

It's Button Therapy, Baby!
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Reply #28 posted 01/06/12 2:02pm

GustavoRibas

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I love ´Lotus Flower´ too.

Peace
Gustavo Ribas
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