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Thread started 12/20/11 6:34pm

OzlemUcucu

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DISCUSS: Unreleased but Performed!!!

I wanna know what everyone thinks: If unreleased/old/new songs are performed live at gigs or on TV appearances, they are official songs but unreleased!

Then, we have unreleased studio outtakes and soundboards that remain unofficial.

Both are bootlegged obviously! My question is: Aren't the unreleased but officially played songs kinda like free give away and regarded as such. It's not uncommon for musicians to give free music, we know Prince has nothing to give away free, but I don't think should be considered illegal as such.

Just an opinions. What U think?

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Reply #1 posted 12/21/11 5:53am

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OzlemUcucu said:

I wanna know what everyone thinks: If unreleased/old/new songs are performed live at gigs or on TV appearances, they are official songs but unreleased!

Then, we have unreleased studio outtakes and soundboards that remain unofficial.

Both are bootlegged obviously! My question is: Aren't the unreleased but officially played songs kinda like free give away and regarded as such. It's not uncommon for musicians to give free music, we know Prince has nothing to give away free, but I don't think should be considered illegal as such.

Just an opinions. What U think?

I think I don't understand your question. But I never understood a damn thing u ever wrote on this forum anyway so that's no big news lol

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Reply #2 posted 12/21/11 6:17am

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OzlemUcucu said:

I wanna know what everyone thinks: If unreleased/old/new songs are performed live at gigs or on TV appearances, they are official songs but unreleased!

Then, we have unreleased studio outtakes and soundboards that remain unofficial.

Both are bootlegged obviously! My question is: Aren't the unreleased but officially played songs kinda like free give away and regarded as such. It's not uncommon for musicians to give free music, we know Prince has nothing to give away free, but I don't think should be considered illegal as such.

Just an opinions. What U think?

No, they are not "free giveaways". Songs that Prince performs, officially released or not, are registered at ASCAP, meaning he holds the copyright, performance royalty rights and publishing rights. The fact the work has never been made available to retail is entirely irrelevant.

So, its still illegal. Its his property and the fact that he's never released it means (in a moral sense, not legally) that you've even less right to "own" that music - its performance was meant to be one of those special live moments, a memory that will live on with you. But, of course, people still bootleg and don't really care about such things.

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Reply #3 posted 12/21/11 8:06am

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OzlemUcucu said:

I wanna know what everyone thinks: If unreleased/old/new songs are performed live at gigs or on TV appearances, they are official songs but unreleased!



Then, we have unreleased studio outtakes and soundboards that remain unofficial.



Both are bootlegged obviously! My question is: Aren't the unreleased but officially played songs kinda like free give away and regarded as such. It's not uncommon for musicians to give free music, we know Prince has nothing to give away free, but I don't think should be considered illegal as such.



Just an opinions. What U think?







Check out the 4 cd set from the 4dafunk label called "Playtime". It has all the songs Prince has performed live but has not released. It was released in 2007 or 2008 so it's not up 2 date with any of the recent unreleased songs performed live (like We Live 2 Get Funky, Welcome 2 America, Black Muse,etc) but it's well worth hunting down.
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Reply #4 posted 12/21/11 8:19am

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Playtime

4 CDR

Label : 4DaFunk

Catalogue : #4DF 058-059-060-061

Disc Length : 63:48 / 65:29 / 59:16 / 51:52

Source : Audience / Soundboard Recordings

Sound Quality : VG / EX+

Year Of Release : 2007


Live & Rehearsal-Only 1981-2004

  • Disc 1

1. Play Time 2. Prince And The Band (edit) 3. Touch 4. Glam Slam Boogie 5. The Go-Go's 6. U Want Me (edit) 7. Funk It Up - 80's Medley (edit) 8. Blues In C (If I Had A Harem) 9. Electric Intercourse 10. Drawers Burnin' 11. Hey You

  • Disc 2

1. People Without 2. Poor Goo 3. Jealous Again 4. Billy (edit) 5. Dance To The Beat 6. Everybody Dance 7. What Did I Do? 8. Guitar Jam

  • Disc 3

1. Cruisin' Down The Highway 2. Gotta Shake This Feeling 3. Our Destiny 4. Roadhouse Garden 5. When Doves Scream 6.White Girls (edit) (including Erotic City - Ice Cream Castles) 7. Susannah's Blues 8. Electric Man (1986 version) 9. Electric Man (1990 version) 10. Mama 11. There's No Telling What I Might Do / Wednesday 12. Cold Coffee And Cocaine 13. If U Let Me Undress U 14. People Without

  • Disc 4

1. Telemarketers Blues 2. 12:01 3. Real Playas 4. The Rules 5. The Second Coming 6. Intermission 7. DAT Intro 8.Diamonds And Pearls Tour Intro 9. Thieves In The Temple Intro (Arabic Interlude) 10. Arabic Intro I 11. Arabic Intro II 12. Jam Of The Year Tour Intro 13. The One Intro 14. Hit N Run Tour Intro 15. Musicology Tour Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame Video 16.Thank U Just The Same


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Reply #5 posted 12/21/11 1:43pm

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Thanks everybody that's very useful information from all of U. I just heard of the CD set "Playtime" yesterday, and was going to hunt it down.

It's kinda weird tho, if he performs a new song on TV, and it's not released he's gotta know this is going to get bootlegged, people wanna hear and see it again. I think Prince is more concerned about studio outtakes and soundboards being bootlegged! Just an opinion..

Isn't Roadhouse garden a cover song? Does this CD set also include covers? It looks as if it does..hasn't he performed more unreleased new songs post 2004 gigs?

[Edited 12/21/11 13:47pm]

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